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March 02, 2018, 06:23:57 PM
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It is almost a month the new system of merit has been implement to the forum. What is your opinion? It is really working as it was expected? What is you opinion?

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It is almost a month the new system of merit has been implement to the forum. What is your opinion? It is really working as it was expected? What is you opinion?

Yes it is working as expected, we have less spam and since anything empty should be refilled, the spam is now come to this section with dozens of merit topics!

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March 02, 2018, 06:40:17 PM
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Yes ofcourse it is working like how it should work, the spam are getting much less than usual. Also the account farmers cant really farm that fast now since they'll get stuck if they dont get merit. So i'd say that the merit system really works perfectly fine.

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March 02, 2018, 06:56:32 PM
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I don't know about all those rosy assessments--spamming in Bitcoin Discussion, Altcoin Discussion, and Economics has gotten so bad that I had to put those sections on ignore.  So shitposters are still going strong.   Why? Because they're still being accepted into awful campaigns by irresponsible managers, and those campaigns are accepting newbies. 

If that were to change and we keep the merit system, our problems might have an end in sight.  New users who can get into campaigns might not care to rank up.

I have definitely noticed that a lot of users are trying harder, so that in itself is a major improvement that I'm glad for.  It is working--slowly and with medium-sized results, but it is certainly working.

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March 02, 2018, 07:40:37 PM
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Of course, the merit system works well. The shit poster slowly decreases and everyone tries to improve the quality of their post in order to get a merit for ranked up. Its make the forum going better than ever.

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I have definitely noticed that a lot of users are trying harder, so that in itself is a major improvement that I'm glad for.  It is working--slowly and with medium-sized results, but it is certainly working.
Yeah,many users are really trying to give their best now than before but most of them were not get merit that what they deserves for their effort due to merit farmers and alt account holders.But still needs time to settle down for the new system and still spammers are just continue to spam as always what I can see is one liner posts turned into three line spam posts.
Let's give more time to the new system surely it will make huge change soon but the campaign managers are also need be careful while picking participants for their campaigns.
It is good to see that merit based campaigns are started but still some of the spammers were abusing merit system for the campaign.Luckily our global moderator starts to hunt the merit abusers already. Cool

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March 02, 2018, 09:23:15 PM
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It is almost a month the new system of merit has been implement to the forum. What is your opinion? It is really working as it was expected? What is you opinion?
Honestly, yes, From the beginning I didn't think that the new system of merit will work as it was expected, but I was wrong, day by day, I saw that there is a hundred of high quality posts wrote every day in different sections, People they want to rank up, and the only thing to do is to improve the quality posts to get merit points to eligible to reach the next rank. It's a very smart move by theymos to improve the forum.

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March 02, 2018, 09:47:38 PM
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It is almost a month the new system of merit has been implement to the forum. What is your opinion? It is really working as it was expected? What is you opinion?

I've noticed a marked improvement. But the system doesn't fully address spam, so I think expectations are misplaced. It only partially addresses signature campaign spam by making it difficult to attain rank by shitposting.

I still feel merit is more weighted towards popularity and social standing than post quality. And that's doubly true when quality posts express unpopular opinions. But I don't think there's any way to fix that.

The spam megathread problem is an interesting one. Many of them are started and consistently bumped by newbies/lower-ranked members without signature ads -- they're just being newbs. There's a feedback loop where bounty spammers and these newbs mutually perpetuate the problem.

I have definitely noticed that a lot of users are trying harder, so that in itself is a major improvement that I'm glad for.  It is working--slowly and with medium-sized results, but it is certainly working.

Same here. A lot of people are clearly putting more thought into their posts. Not enough to drown out the spam, but like I said, I wouldn't expect that to happen entirely. Or in just a month or two.

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March 02, 2018, 10:28:35 PM
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It is almost a month the new system of merit has been implement to the forum. What is your opinion? It is really working as it was expected? What is you opinion?

- Yes, no doubt it's working. Merit is helping people to create good contents however the way we are applying merits, is not right. Some good tweaks might bring out a solid application of the merit.


Anyway, I would like to see your constructive though on the topic instead of just asking us. You see, Merit is here for to eliminate post like yours. The question you are asking can be easily answered if you would take a little time and looked around instead of creating this thread.

I hope you got your answers now.

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March 02, 2018, 11:47:31 PM
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It is almost a month the new system of merit has been implement to the forum. What is your opinion? It is really working as it was expected? What is you opinion?

Yes it is working as expected, we have less spam and since anything empty should be refilled, the spam is now come to this section with dozens of merit topics!

merit is GARBAGE https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032236.0
Would you join this Merit Survey? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2999382.0
Why did they actually enter MERIT ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3030382.0
Some confusions regarding "Merit system" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3000813.0
Merit is the best thing that happened to new users https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2828014.0
Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3006322.0
Yet another "Merit" post....please just hear me out for a minute. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3035737.0
The Merit System - Why it is fundamentally flawed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3042759.0

Enjoy reading the topics that i found only in the first and second page of meta!!!
Hilarious, meta is ruined SOS!

This in fact is totally surreal. A working anti-spam measure is in fact producing a migration of the spam. Perhaps it would have been wiser to open a new category of posts just dedicated to merit issues, so as to keep clean the meta-section.
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March 03, 2018, 12:22:24 AM
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Of course it is helping the forum - look how many merit threads and posts it has created. Smiley

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I'll give it a month or two more to see the real results. Most likely people (newbies) will give up since they'll probably see how much harder is to rank up with merit system.

Yes ofcourse it is working like how it should work, the spam are getting much less than usual. Also the account farmers cant really farm that fast now since they'll get stuck if they dont get merit. So i'd say that the merit system really works perfectly fine.

That's the one thing that's for sure to disappear, account farming. The only thing that might improve the spam reduction even more is if signature campaign managers include min merit (not counting the base one you get depending on rank) for enrolling.
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it is too early to say that it is working...maybe a month or two...my obsevation at this moment is purely cleansing..through merits giving we can sense that some have several accounts and they themselves gives merit to their accts that needs merit which for me is unfair because we that are new in btc forum are striving hard to post a constractive post so as to gain merit..which on the other side i am also thankful because it widen our knowledge not only on proper english and spelling but also how to make useful and good advertisement....

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It is almost a month the new system of merit has been implement to the forum. What is your opinion? It is really working as it was expected? What is you opinion?
System Merit already applied or work l taste work and how regulations that plementasi burdensome or lighten up for that run there is two selection when plementasi that light can expected according to expectations and otherwise burdensome maybe somewhat slow this depends how we responded.that depends way make regulations....!!!!

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It is almost a month the new system of merit has been implement to the forum. What is your opinion? It is really working as it was expected? What is you opinion?
I think yes, with this new system implemented people are now obliged to work hard to create a good quality of post since they cannot rank up just by completing the required post count. Even me is now striving hard to make quality post, I must admit before I only make one or two liner sentence and kinda nonsense one but now I have to make effort in reading news and other info about cryptos and its market so I can compose a good topic or reply.
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I believe a lot of the shitposting and account creating is continuing because newbies believe merit will go away.  They see threads about ditching merit and they get excited and tell their friends everything will be back to normal soon.

We must send a clear, unwavering signal that the merit system is working as intended and is here to stay!   Smiley

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Merit system has helped, has changed the forum more than one month after its launch (in January). Nevertheless, somewhere in the forum (like Altcoins ANN/bounties, or even in Meta), there are still shitty-posts/topics created by spammers because those two reasons.

1) Spammers believe that they can get merits from spamming Meta, begging for merit sources with their shit (repeatedly). Overtime, they will recognise that they won't earn merits that way; then they will stop (and might start new strategy, lol). Roll Eyes

2) Spammers, again, think that Meta board seems to be the easiest section to catch attention of higher ranked users, who can send them sMerits. Again, overtime, they will realize that higher ranked users will become more and more strictly when verifying post-quality before sending their sMerits. It due to two other factors, merits will be more scarce overtime; and if some spammers keep ranking up by their shitty tactics, merit senders will tie up their rules before giving away.
As Vod said in above thread, merit senders should give strong signals about point of view.
To sum up, merit system will continue to change the forum, both old good users and spammers (some will leave the forum, some will adapt to survive - I hope they will become good users in the forum due to effects of  merit system; not innovate new strategy to rank up and spam.)

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Merit system have solved the problem of post flooding intended only to rank up.

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Yes i think it really help a lot, it reduce the shit poser just want to rank up, in addition merit really require quality post that really helps the forum and the reader as well.

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Merits helps a lot in this forum. but the system cannot garuantee a 100% that all spammers will not post out of topic or un useful post especially the higher ranks (full member up) they didnt care about merits. They post for the sake of their bounty campaigns to get rewards. But this system are doing better nowadays it lessen the shit posters.

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