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March 03, 2018, 10:49:06 AM
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Yes it is working perfectly fine because it is easier to find those people who are here for merit farming and here because they really want to learn about bitcoin and other alternate cryptocurrencies. I have found some people who are cheating although it is just a minor give and take merits but imagine if they have 5 - 10 alt account and placed in just one signature campaign. Even if they are just members or full members they can still get a lot of $ out of one campaign.
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March 03, 2018, 10:55:05 AM
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Yes i think it really help a lot, it reduce the shit poser just want to rank up, in addition merit really require quality post that really helps the forum and the reader as well.

The shit posters who were here making useless posts through multiple accounts to level up and participate in signature campaigns will give up now. They have realized that this merit system is not going to be taken back and are thus posting constructive posts. This is reflected in the post we are seeing in the meta section from new members.

Merits helps a lot in this forum. but the system cannot garuantee a 100% that all spammers will not post out of topic or un useful post especially the higher ranks (full member up) they didnt care about merits. They post for the sake of their bounty campaigns to get rewards. But this system are doing better nowadays it lessen the shit posters.

There are requirements fro higher rank members to have certain number of merits earned to get better pay in signature campaigns. I think as this system gets old, we will have campaigns only allowing members (for all ranks) with some merits earned.
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March 03, 2018, 11:14:21 AM
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Yes it is working perfectly fine because it is easier to find those people who are here for merit farming and here because they really want to learn about bitcoin and other alternate cryptocurrencies. I have found some people who are cheating although it is just a minor give and take merits but imagine if they have 5 - 10 alt account and placed in just one signature campaign. Even if they are just members or full members they can still get a lot of $ out of one campaign.

Merit has helped the forum in following ways:

1) New members are also making detailed and to the point posts to earn more merits. This is improving the quality of posts on this forum which will bring more traffic and advertisers.

2) Some people tried to cheat the merit system by giving merit points to their alt accounts. Most of them got identified and were punished. Thus, the merit system also helped to find out alt accounts here.

3) Merit system is also good for the companies having signature campaigns here. There signature will appear on high quality posts now.
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March 03, 2018, 12:02:06 PM
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Sure it does.

Before the system, I really don't care that much. But since it started I'm beginning to understand what really is the goal of the system. And eventually I've realized that, many people do really have very very helpful thoughts, that may be based on facts or even opinions.

So, I've began to read more, and discover many topics that I've yet seen, with that I've known many members that really knows their thing. I mean people, I began to recognize those people and learn significant things from them. And these people deserve to gain Merit.

Some minor goals are to reduce spams and to know who really deserves to rank up. Because then, the rank is only for how long have you been active in the forum, but now with the System, the rank does matter.

You might also want to check this topic, if you're curious about the movement of Merits: 3 Merit Stat After a Month of Merit

EDIT: There has been yet another infograph(s) that is related to the Merit System: Where the Merit Pours?

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March 03, 2018, 12:50:30 PM
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i am not being merited yet...
hope so its important...
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March 03, 2018, 01:37:10 PM
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i am not being merited yet...
hope so its important...

And you will not if you continue making 99% of your posts in off-topic section especially if their content is similar to this
i love monkeys heheheheheh
You need to improve your posts quality and the <1 liner chat (can't say even a post)

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March 03, 2018, 01:47:49 PM
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Just had a look at your posting history:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356158;sa=showPosts


You are posting replies with 5-10 words and you want to get merit for those posts. I do not think that you are going to get merit points for such posts. You should have a look at the posts which are getting merits from other members. Then try to improve your writing skills and write in similar way. Another thing required to get merits here is that you should have good knowledge about latest happenings related to bitcoins.
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March 03, 2018, 02:40:01 PM
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It is almost a month the new system of merit has been implement to the forum. What is your opinion? It is really working as it was expected? What is you opinion?

Yes it is working as expected, we have less spam and since anything empty should be refilled, the spam is now come to this section with dozens of merit topics!

merit is GARBAGE https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032236.0
Would you join this Merit Survey? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2999382.0
Why did they actually enter MERIT ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3030382.0
Some confusions regarding "Merit system" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3000813.0
Merit is the best thing that happened to new users https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2828014.0
Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3006322.0
Yet another "Merit" post....please just hear me out for a minute. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3035737.0
The Merit System - Why it is fundamentally flawed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3042759.0

Enjoy reading the topics that i found only in the first and second page of meta!!!
Hilarious, meta is ruined SOS!

Thank you for the links kind sir, I was really wondering what merit really does
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March 03, 2018, 05:01:59 PM
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Well, Yes! But it's unapriciated by a lot of people. The idea of the merit system is to:
- Lessen the spammers and shitposters
- Prevent account farming
- Let the people in this community to enhance there skills and knowledge.
- Improve the post quality of each and everyone here.

The downside of it:
- Takes time to rank up
- Not all can adjust with the new system.
- Some quality post is taken for granted.
- Some users is forced to cheat just to receive merits.

It mays seem hard but if you look at the bigger picture this new system is so beneficial for all. It's just that others don't accept inovation, They're afraid of a change. We all have a potential but the problem of some users is that they're limiting themselves. In which they think that this system is just a burden.
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March 03, 2018, 05:46:17 PM
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It is almost a month the new system of merit has been implement to the forum. What is your opinion? It is really working as it was expected? What is you opinion?
Well, everything has a good side and a bad side, the good one is that the merit system is kinda helping to clean up the forum, shitposters will be soon rushing out to leave since the rank up is becoming hard to get, besides a lot of forumers will try to improve their writing and share useful posts in order to get merits. But we should never ignore the bad side which is to sacrifice the few who are working really hard but never get noticed and never get merits.

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March 03, 2018, 05:50:17 PM
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Thanks to the mod who implemented it. In this way, shitposters will decrease as the new merit system requires the user to write meaningful post. Though others find it annoying because of the difficulty to rank up, for me it's a good move since we would all benefit by learning, by doing research about a thread and by widening our insights and opinion. The only thing I observed is that it should have been implemented at the time this forum starts so that others will not cry or beg for it. Most users beg because they have witnessed others who easily rank up by just increasing the number of activity without merits. They find it unfair. If from the start of this forum, merit system have been implemented way back, i think no one will cry for it.

Overall, if we are open to changes, no matter what the new implementations or rules we have, we will take it positively because it's for our welfare.
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March 03, 2018, 06:21:08 PM
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i am not being merited yet...
hope so its important...

And you will not if you continue making 99% of your posts in off-topic section especially if their content is similar to this
i love monkeys heheheheheh
You need to improve your posts quality and the <1 liner chat (can't say even a post)
zeref dragneel will never earn merit.  Ever.  I just left a neutral "shitposter" tag on his profile as well.  This supports my thesis that shitposters have no clue how bad their posts are, nor why they're not getting merits.  And dragboob here is getting put on ignore, which I would advise everyone to do.

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March 03, 2018, 08:35:09 PM
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If you really want it to work perfectly, threads like yours should not be made, thus less spam. I have taken a look at page (Perhaps 50), and every page since now and then is filled with topics related to the merit system including repeated questions like "The merit system is not working."
I can see an improvement with the quality of posts in various threads. However, people really need to stop complaining and move on already.
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If you really want it to work perfectly, threads like yours should not be made, thus less spam. I have taken a look at page (Perhaps 50), and every page since now and then is filled with topics related to the merit system including repeated questions like "The merit system is not working."
I can see an improvement with the quality of posts in various threads. However, people really need to stop complaining and move on already.

There are also a lot of people making threads like "How merit system is good for the forum", " Here is how merit system will change the forum quality". Most of those threads contain the same content repeated again and again in hope of getting some merits. Some even succeed with it.

The reason for this happening is that the official thread is not made sticky. If it was sticky, then some of these members would have expressed their opinion in that thread. It gets lost in other threads and many people might not notice it before expressing the opinion about merit system.

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I don't think merit is the best way.

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1) New members are also making detailed and to the point posts to earn more merits. This is improving the quality of posts on this forum which will bring more traffic and advertisers.

Making detailed posts is not equal to making meritable posts or vice-versa. Improving the quality of posts is not related to bringing traffic. If I recall correctly the biggest source of traffic for this forum is the bounty campaigns and not the legit discussions.

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2) Some people tried to cheat the merit system by giving merit points to their alt accounts. Most of them got identified and were punished. Thus, the merit system also helped to find out alt accounts here.
It was an indirect effect of the merit system.

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3) Merit system is also good for the companies having signature campaigns here. There signature will appear on high quality posts now.
Thats what ruined the forum. Roll Eyes

I don't think merit is the best way.

You have something else in mind? Do enlighten us on your idea.

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March 04, 2018, 08:21:44 AM
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Yes, merit has a good effect in this forum.
I can say that Merit System is successful, but i think this system can still be improve to be fair for all.
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Currently what I saw is that the merit system is working quite well even if not too its fullest but it is working better than many had expected I guess. It is been a month or so for the merit system had been introduced so to actually tell a major difference brought by the merit system we should actually give it more time and see how much it helped in the long run and then we could accurately say how well the merit system is doing or how it is helping the forum.
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I don't think merit is the best way.

I don't think this forum is for you.



zeref dragneel will never earn merit.  Ever.  I just left a neutral "shitposter" tag on his profile as well.  This supports my thesis that shitposters have no clue how bad their posts are, nor why they're not getting merits.  And dragboob here is getting put on ignore, which I would advise everyone to do.

If you plan on tagging all the shitposters, you've got a long long long long long long long long way to go, my friend. Cheesy



Sure it does.

Before the system, I really don't care that much. But since it started I'm beginning to understand what really is the goal of the system. And eventually I've realized that, many people do really have very very helpful thoughts, that may be based on facts or even opinions.

So, I've began to read more, and discover many topics that I've yet seen, with that I've known many members that really knows their thing. I mean people, I began to recognize those people and learn significant things from them. And these people deserve to gain Merit.

Some minor goals are to reduce spams and to know who really deserves to rank up. Because then, the rank is only for how long have you been active in the forum, but now with the System, the rank does matter.

You might also want to check this topic, if you're curious about the movement of Merits: 3 Merit Stat After a Month of Merit

I must say that taking a brief look at your post history proves that the merit system did, in fact, help you to change the demeanor in which you now post compared to before. Kudos to you for this! We need more members like you.

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March 04, 2018, 02:37:55 PM
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It's working efficiently since it was implemented. Initial functio n of the merit system gave results satisfactory since I felt it's main purpose-lessen noobs obsessed in ranking fast by slamming different threads and boards.

I think the arguements set by other users are unsupported and are just rallying because they are having hard time ranking up their accounts and alt accounts.

I say that the new merit system is great and surely it will sustain good quality of the forum. Desrving people will be active.
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