Joe's Signatureless Challenge Archives

[mohieddine]

I carry a company signature and I can not get out of its project
when I finish my project I will join you and try to win

It's strange to me that a company is willing to dish you out a portion of their marketing/advertising budget while you have a valid negative trust indicating that you have plagiarized posts. I would think this would be exactly the kind of thing that Joe would find disqualifying. Plus, I wouldn't expect to be around until the end of your project/campaign, because plagiarism is one of the very few things that can earn you a ban around here.

You're also a hypocrite, because pretty recently you also had this to say :

You copied from here: https://www.quora.com/Will-Bitcoin-be-dead-in-the-coming-days
This is contrary to the rules of the site You must mention the source

I understand that negative trust users are allowed in this challenge, but certainly a plagiarist should not be allowed. Not that it matters, because you would not place in the challenge. I just don't see a point in wasting anyone's time.

As you see my friend
We all have mistakes at first
At that time I was new and not familiar with the rules
If you've seen it I find that I've deleted it
I apologize for what happened
Which put me mistrusting his law that he did not delete it a month before it was issued
I respect this and I wait for the end of the month to send him
  For this:

You copied from here: https://www.quora.com/Will-Bitcoin-be-dead-in-the-coming-days
This is contrary to the rules of the site You must mention the source

He did the wrong thing that I did
I wanted to advise him
So as not to return it or not in trouble
I think I changed my dealings on the site for the better
If I were not, please let me know, and I hope that I will not make any mistakes

Two days left
I will send a message to delete the negative confidence

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[Sellingaccs]

He did the wrong thing that I did
I wanted to advise him
So as not to return it or not in trouble
I think I changed my dealings on the site for the better
If I were not, please let me know, and I hope that I will not make any mistakes

Two days left
I will send a message to delete the negative confidence

Copying other people's work, and representing as your own is wrong by all of the ethical standards that i know. Your negative feedback won't be gone, and you should be banned if the mods were not so busy.


Judging by your average post quality, bitcointalk won't be missing you. You should learn from this, and be more original next time.

[bill gator]

Deleting your post was the wrong move in this scenario; it would've been more appropriate to do as you have suggested and simply source the material. You must reference the original author, company or source. We all make mistakes, but were you unaware that plagiarism is frowned upon? I do not wish to go back and forth within Joe's thread, of course Joe has the final say on who participates and places. My opinion has been voiced. Do everyone a favor though, and please stop pressing "Enter"/"Return" after every 5-10 words. It is extremely tough on the eyes and makes your post unpleasant to read.


Joe I will no longer have enough Merit to send to the participants for Round 5+. I will (most likely) send Round 4 winners their merit once I get a chance to read their posts. Round 5 I do not have the merit to sponsor any merit rewards. I can maintain my cash sponsorship, however, so only my merit sponsorship(s) will be rescinded. Hopefully by Round 6 I will have accumulated enough merit to sponsor merit again.

[bitmover]

Joe I will no longer have enough Merit to send to the participants for Round 5+. I will (most likely) send Round 4 winners their merit once I get a chance to read their posts. Round 5 I do not have the merit to sponsor any merit rewards. I can maintain my cash sponsorship, however, so only my merit sponsorship(s) will be rescinded. Hopefully by Round 6 I will have accumulated enough merit to sponsor merit again.

Hello Joe and bill Gator.
I have some smerits. I can sponsor the merits for round 5 in bill Gator's place if you need.

[suchmoon]

Joe I will no longer have enough Merit to send to the participants for Round 5+. I will (most likely) send Round 4 winners their merit once I get a chance to read their posts. Round 5 I do not have the merit to sponsor any merit rewards. I can maintain my cash sponsorship, however, so only my merit sponsorship(s) will be rescinded. Hopefully by Round 6 I will have accumulated enough merit to sponsor merit again.

Check behind the sofa cushions. That's where I usually find some stray merits, slippery little suckers.

[bill gator]

Check behind the sofa cushions. That's where I usually find some stray merits, slippery little suckers.

Oh wow. I did find some behind the cushions, must've fallen out of my pocket one day while I was sitting there. Thanks for the idea suchmoon!  Well, that means that I can maintain my merit sponsorship for sure! So, forget what I said about no longer being able to sponsor merit. I hate to be back and forth, but things change quickly sometimes. bitmover, you can feel free to step in replacement of my merit sponsorship this round if you would like to. I have no problem with this, and I can pick things up next round; just let me and Joe know so we can proceed accordingly.

[BTCforJoe]

Applications for Round 5 are now closed. In total, there are 22 Applicants for Round 5

There was one applicant who applied past the deadline (@ansh_848). This user has been added to Round 6's spreadsheet.

Good luck, everyone!

One question I did not understand this

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Winners, please post the links to your post(s) that you believe to be the most meritorious. If the merit sponsors agree, they will merit that/those post(s) to award you for winning this challenge.

Post links to my posts? You mean in the same thread here?

Yes, this is just to make it easier for the merit sponsors to award you for posts that you feel deserve to be merited.

And again, I'll provide two (2) Merits for the third place in round five (5).

Awesome, thank you, Geraldo!!

Deleting your post was the wrong move in this scenario; it would've been more appropriate to do as you have suggested and simply source the material. You must reference the original author, company or source. We all make mistakes, but were you unaware that plagiarism is frowned upon? I do not wish to go back and forth within Joe's thread, of course Joe has the final say on who participates and places. My opinion has been voiced. Do everyone a favor though, and please stop pressing "Enter"/"Return" after every 5-10 words. It is extremely tough on the eyes and makes your post unpleasant to read.

Thank you for the dialogue with user @mohieddine. You hit the nail on the head and represented my thoughts very accurately. With posts such as their existing ones, there is no possible way that they'd be able to place in this challenge, but if they want to enter, it's on them. It takes a few minutes extra of my time, but this challenge exists in order to help shitposters to not become shitposters, so I couldn't just sit here and not allow someone to join because they got a negative feedback rating. While I do agree that plagiarism is one of the worst things that you can do on the forums, I do believe that everyone deserves a second chance.

Joe I will no longer have enough Merit to send to the participants for Round 5+. I will (most likely) send Round 4 winners their merit once I get a chance to read their posts. Round 5 I do not have the merit to sponsor any merit rewards. I can maintain my cash sponsorship, however, so only my merit sponsorship(s) will be rescinded. Hopefully by Round 6 I will have accumulated enough merit to sponsor merit again.

Ah, no worries. Please let me know if and when you'll have sMerit available again to continue the merit rewards. Thanks for your continued cash sponsorship! Round 5 did not receive enough participants, so there won't be a cash prize required for 3rd place. Thanks for your continued support, @bill gator!

Joe I will no longer have enough Merit to send to the participants for Round 5+. I will (most likely) send Round 4 winners their merit once I get a chance to read their posts. Round 5 I do not have the merit to sponsor any merit rewards. I can maintain my cash sponsorship, however, so only my merit sponsorship(s) will be rescinded. Hopefully by Round 6 I will have accumulated enough merit to sponsor merit again.

Hello Joe and bill Gator.
I have some smerits. I can sponsor the merits for round 5 in bill Gator's place if you need.

That's what I'm talking about! Thanks for stepping up, @bitmover! This round would require 2 sMerits in total: 1 for 2nd Place and 1 for 3rd Place. I've updated the top post and Sponsors post

Check behind the sofa cushions. That's where I usually find some stray merits, slippery little suckers.

Oh wow. I did find some behind the cushions, must've fallen out of my pocket one day while I was sitting there. Thanks for the idea suchmoon!  Well, that means that I can maintain my merit sponsorship for sure! So, forget what I said about no longer being able to sponsor merit. I hate to be back and forth, but things change quickly sometimes. bitmover, you can feel free to step in replacement of my merit sponsorship this round if you would like to. I have no problem with this, and I can pick things up next round; just let me and Joe know so we can proceed accordingly.

I think the easiest thing to do in this position would be to maintain your merit sponsorship for Round 6, and let bitmover continue to provide merits in your place.

lol @ suchmoon, what an awesome way to step up

[bill gator]

Sounds good to me, bitmover, you can step up to the plate and handle my merit sponsorship(s) for Round 5. I will pick things back up for Round 6 and at that point you can choose to sponsor however you would like, or bow out.

It's a shame that Round 5 didn't receive the participants needed to get that extra cash sponsorship. Ah well, no harm done I suppose, but that makes me curious what that means for "vlad230 has donated his winnings ($5USD) to future rounds!" Does that simply go into the prize pool for future rounds to not over complicate things or were you thinking about adding that $5 onto a placement this round?

I don't believe I sent the Round 4 merit yet, but I plan to do so either tonight or tomorrow morning and I apologize that it is delayed; I like to do so when I get a good opportunity to read through the recipient's posts before sending them merit. That's hard earned merit, right there! Can't be sending it out all Willy Nilly.

[vlad230]

It's a shame that Round 5 didn't receive the participants needed to get that extra cash sponsorship. Ah well, no harm done I suppose, but that makes me curious what that means for "vlad230 has donated his winnings ($5USD) to future rounds!" Does that simply go into the prize pool for future rounds to not over complicate things or were you thinking about adding that $5 onto a placement this round?

My idea was to encourage as many people to join this challenge as possible. So, if this round doesn't qualify for a third place based on Joe's rules, then that's fine, the prize can be given out when it meets the requirements in some future round.

[rajurathod18]

whenever i see this thread this makes me to leave my current signature campaign and join this challenge not because of the merit and rewards the purpose of this thread attracts me a lot which gives opportunity to grow on the forum and learn lot of things by engaging in this challenge. I will definitely participate in this challenge once i complete my current campaign.

[Stedsm]

He did the wrong thing that I did
I wanted to advise him
So as not to return it or not in trouble
I think I changed my dealings on the site for the better
If I were not, please let me know, and I hope that I will not make any mistakes

Two days left
I will send a message to delete the negative confidence

Mistake? Really?
I'm quite surprised how are you even able to post here while plagiarizing other people's posts. If I understand correctly, those who "COPY & PASTE", get banned immediately by one of the mods here. You seem to be quite lucky, huh!


Anyways Joe,
Congratulations to you for another successful week and all the participants who did very well in this.
Aw man, we're getting bigger and better a community we always wished to have!
As promised, I've merited this post of bitmover and didn't go for their chosen posts. I hope there's no such rule, though.

[suboz]

I'm in!

[bill gator]

Now that I am all caught up within my own review thread and have a better view on the amount of merits I have available for this challenge, at least for now, I am pretty confident that I will be able to pick up and continue my merit sponsorship for quite a few rounds. Thanks bitmover for stepping up to the plate, thank you suchmoon for enabling this to continue and thank you Joe for keeping this campaign running better than I could.

Vlad, you're a good man for allowing your prize money to be used at Joe's discretion. This gives a lot of necessary freedom for the capital to entice otherwise contentious recruits. It's quite interesting to me the amount of users that join, pledge to donate their earnings and then actually place.

[jamalaezaz]

I am interested to become a sponsor. merit and money both. but only if you show me some improvement in this forum. because I am not seeing any quality and improvement anywhere... every thread is full of spammers and shitposters.


anyway. I have 90 Smerits and a lot of bitcoins. let me know when you need some.

Edit: heard a lot about my trust. so please don't start this topic here spammers.

[BTCforJoe]

I am interested to become a sponsor. merit and money both. but only if you show me some improvement in this forum. because I am not seeing any quality and improvement anywhere... every thread is full of spammers and shitposters.

I, personally, cannot show you improvement other than my own actions. I don't force anybody to join this challenge, nor do I force them to improve their post quality. They choose to do that on their own. I would like to think that participants that wear my signature are generally trying to post better quality content than non-participants.

Don't insult me. I see that you're dangling a carrot in front of me, saying that you'll give it to me if I meet YOUR conditions, and then go on to say that your conditions are not being met... What, then, is your point? Why would you provide this kind of stipulation?

While I appreciate your wanting to donate merits and/or cash to this challenge, I won't bend over backwards to accommodate your unfulfillable conditions. Either you can choose to donate whatever you want to the escrow address, review participants' post history and award some merits here and there for quality posts, or kindly not do anything.

But I do not appreciate your backhanded compliment(?) in the form of insults by stating that you're not seeing any quality and improvement anywhere...

Thanks for finding this thread and commenting, but I'm going to kindly ask you to leave now.

[BTCforJoe]

Round 5 has come to an end! I will turn the visibility of the spreadsheet off while I judge and critique the participants’ posts. Please do not request access to the spreadsheet while it’s turned off. Every week, I get a half dozen requests. Please don’t request access; it gets quite annoying, especially when I always mention that I am turning it off beforehand.

See you in a couple hours. Good luck, everyone!

[BTCforJoe]

The winners of Round 5 have been selected!

Winners, please post the links to your post(s) that you believe to be the most meritorious. If the merit sponsors agree, they will merit that/those post(s) to award you for winning this challenge. If the merit sponsors do not agree with your selection, please note that they will find and choose a post to award your merits for this round.

Merit sponsors, please provide a link to the posts you award merits to for the winners of this round. If you do not agree with the winners' selections, please use your discretion to choose a post (or multiple posts, if applicable) to award merit to, and provide the links in a post here.

First Place: Seetheummerallyeah

$20USD (0.00280938BTC at the time of this post)
(transaction)

8 Merits
(sponsored by DarkStar_)


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Second Place: Sellingaccs

$10USD (0.00140469BTC at the time of this post)
(transaction)

3 Merits

(Cash prize sponsored by bill gator. Merit prize sponsored by BTCforJoe [2 Merits] and bitmover [1 Merits])


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Third Place: max2607

3 Merits

(sponsored by bitmover [1 Merit] and Geraldo [2 Merits])


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Consolation Prize: butka

2 Merits

(sponsored by LoyceV)


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Bonus Prize: N/A
(the next available Newbie had a score that wasn't deserving of any rewards; this bonus prize can either be awarded to an existing winning Newbie above, or @Heisenberg_Hunter has the option to reserve the two merits for the next round)

2 Merits

(sponsored by Heisenberg_Hunter)



So this was a very weird round for me. More than half of the participants were disqualified, either for inactivity or because they joined a paid signature campaign. Either way, in my opinion, this week produced four meritorious posts, and the winners are deserving of their winnings! I'm glad to see that the top members of this challenge put in so much effort.


Round 5 Merit Stats: This round, a total of 51 Merits were earned by 6 participants, for an overall average of 8.5 Merits earned from those participants. This number is the lowest average and merited participants we've had so far. I don't know if I should be concerned just yet

Meritorious Posts of the Week (in no particular order, and purely speculative, based on my opinion):

• List of CoinMarketCap Alternatives
• Re: What's your favorite poker site
• Re: How to peer-to-peer OTC crypto trades occur?
• Understanding Bitcoin's Hashing Function in Simple Terms

[Sellingaccs]

The winners of Round 5 have been selected!

Winners, please post the links to your post(s) that you believe to be the most meritorious. If the merit sponsors agree, they will merit that/those post(s) to award you for winning this challenge. If the merit sponsors do not agree with your selection, please note that they will find and choose a post to award your merits for this round.

Merit sponsors, please provide a link to the posts you award merits to for the winners of this round. If you do not agree with the winners' selections, please use your discretion to choose a post (or multiple posts, if applicable) to award merit to, and provide the links in a post here.

First Place: Seetheummerallyeah

$20USD (0.00280938BTC at the time of this post)
(transaction)

8 Merits
(sponsored by DarkStar_)


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Second Place: Sellingaccs

$10USD (0.00140469BTC at the time of this post)
(transaction)

3 Merits

(Cash prize sponsored by bill gator. Merit prize sponsored by BTCforJoe [2 Merits] and bitmover [1 Merits])


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Third Place: max2607

3 Merits

(sponsored by bitmover [$5 + 1 Merit] and Geraldo [2 Merits])


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Consolation Prize: butka

2 Merits

(sponsored by LoyceV)


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Bonus Prize: N/A
(the next available Newbie had a score that wasn't deserving of any rewards; this bonus prize can either be awarded to an existing winning Newbie above, or @Heisenberg_Hunter has the option to reserve the two merits for the next round)

2 Merits

(sponsored by Heisenberg_Hunter)



So this was a very weird round for me. More than half of the participants were disqualified, either for inactivity or because they joined a paid signature campaign. Either way, in my opinion, this week produced four meritorious posts, and the winners are deserving of their winnings! I'm glad to see that the top members of this challenge put in so much effort.


Round 5 Merit Stats: This round, a total of 51 Merits were earned by 6 participants, for an overall average of 8.5 Merits earned from those participants. This number is the lowest average and merited participants we've had so far. I don't know if I should be concerned just yet

Meritorious Posts of the Week (in no particular order, and purely speculative, based on my opinion):

• List of CoinMarketCap Alternatives
• Re: What's your favorite poker site
• Re: How to peer-to-peer OTC crypto trades occur?
• Understanding Bitcoin's Hashing Function in Simple Terms

Woohoo! I finally ranked haha. I promised to sponsor 2 merits as Consolidation prize as well for Newbies and Junior members so shall i merit butka?

[BTCforJoe]

Round 5: Notes & Critique

Here are my notes for all of the participants. Please remember that this is my personal opinion, and in no way reflect the views of the moderators, staff, or any other members of this forum. If you don't like it, start your own challenge. These notes can also be seen on the spreadsheet.

Seetheummerallyeah: I like your posting style a lot. A lot of your replies and answers are simple, very direct and to-the-point, but I can tell that you took a lot of thought and time to answer them. You're a model member, and I'll be using you as a reference (if I could remember your username lol) of what I consider to be a great poster, and far from a shitposter. Even the 3 companies that you chose for bounties are the same ones I bookmarked as decent bounties to send to people who inquire about bounty campaigns that I'd recommend. You're a great member of the Altcoin community, and based on your post contributions and the topics you find interest in, I personally feel like you'd be a great merit source for the Altcoin boards. Great job this week, and I hope you stick around!

Sellingaccs: Great to see you stick around for the challenge this week! I like how you focused on helping out other members this week. Your technical knowledge in bitcoin and altcoins is welcomed and refreshing to see. You also took an interest to helping eliminate a shit campaign, which is great, as it shows your general interest in the forums as a whole, and not just a place to earn money. You've shown a huge improvement in that aspect, in my eyes. Your posts are short and direct; a great example of posts that don't have to be paragraphs in order to be good posts. Your posts, however, leave a desire for more references and sources, especially when reviewing sites or providing examples in your replies. Rather than just stating something definitive, it's always an added bonus if you can back it up with a screenshot or a link. Other than that, the only other critique I have is your post structure; try not to create a line break after every sentence. It's not really too annoying, except for the fact that I hate seeing this structure now because so many shitposters use it. You're far from being a shitposter, so it's confusing to see you posting this way lol. Solid week!

max2607: Great week for you! You're a well above average poster, and you seem to be very comfortable with the forums and its navigation. I wish you would reference a few more sources in the posts where you make some definitive statements that could easily be backed (example: these could easily be referenced - "There twitter has all bots followers" or "theymos or moderators only ban someone..."). Overall, keep up what you're doing; NONE of your posts have made me feel that you were a shitposter in any way. Great job!

butka: I'm really glad that you're part of this challenge. You've easily been added to the likes of @nullius and @Blue Tyrant as perfect examples of Newbies performing the correct way. Your dedication to the development and technical knowledge of Bitcoin is extremely impressive, and you're asking the right questions the right way. I've learned from the topics you've started this round, and while its apparent that you didn't have all the knowledge of the given topics, you've positioned them in a way to invite the correct answers, and you did it in a non-threatening way that was inviting for more established members to easily contribute to. Thank you for being a part of my challenge. I know that your interest mainly lies in the technical side of things, but feel free to venture about the boards! For example, you'll find a lot of questions by Newbies in "Beginners & Help" and people looking for help in "Project Development" that I think would benefit from your insight. Overall, another solid week for you!

shahzadafzal: Another solid round for you. But again, be careful when choosing which topics to post in. Opinionated and speculative topics such as "How to raise a smart kid?" or "What will happen if many countries accept virtual money" are designed to illicit broad and generic answers, no matter how much you try to portray your own experiences in those types of situations. The problem is that your answer, while well-written, will become ignored by users who are solely posting to rank up their accounts. Ultimately, posts in these topics end up contributing to more spam, no matter how well your posts are written. Other than that, I'm glad that you're finding more comfort throughout the forums. It's apparent that you enjoy bitcointalk, and are a great asset to the community!

RYXES: I love reading your posts. Your knowledge of mining really shows through, and I believe that you're an asset to the mining sub on the forums. Your passive aggressive posts are also entertaining to read, and they actually are contributive to the topics at hand LOL. I don't consider you a shitposter by any means, but if you want to improve your score, the devil is in the details. Just those extra little details when constructing a post, giving just that one extra example, and then posting a link to a reference or a source will take you a long way. Overall, I don't know what to tell you to help you improve your posts other than that... Otherwise, it's not that your posts are bad, it's just that all you participants are being critiqued and graded on a curve, so your competition is mainly each other (not my criteria). I had fun reviewing your account this week; keep it up!

Danstan: Getting better! I can see that you've listened to my critique from last week and have done a better job in choosing topics to post in, as well as providing better replies that weren't so generic. Your replies this time around were thought-out much better than your last round, and I could tell that you took more time and consideration in your posts. However, be careful where you post. One of your best posts just happened to get ignored (mainy) because it was on the 29th page of a megathread. These topics are only contributive to more spam on the boards, and a haven for shitposters to spam their posts. Just a word of advice for the next round: Try to stay out of Bitcoin Discussion, Speculation, and Economics and see if you can contribute to any other conversations. If something is too much for you to handle or understand, feel free to ask questions! Just explain that you're new and really do have a desire to learn. As long as members don't think you're there to post for the sake of posting, they'll be helpful! Overall, good improvement, but I know you can do better!

theyoungmillionaire: Your posts are the most controversial in this challenge. While I do appreciate that you're taking a lot of time to post positive news regarding bitcoin, you're just copying and pasting articles from other sources. At least you're referencing the sources, but what you're doing is essentially using the forums like your personal blog. While you're intentions are good, I find this to be slightly deceptive. There's no need to copy and paste an entire article; you can grab a paragraph, quote it, and then link the article for viewers to read the rest of it. If I may be honest, you're a merit whore. I feel like EVERY SINGLE post that you made in this round was for the direct purpose of receiving merit. You definitely earned merits for doing this, but anyone that views your post history will see that you're lacking the genuine aspect of wanting to be here on the forums. The impression that I get is that you're simply breeding your account and aiming to level it up so that you can join a campaign later. None of your posts seem genuine to me. I could be wrong, but the name of this challenge IS "Joe's Signatureless Challenge", so my opinion is what matters the most. Please stop copying and pasting articles, as I consider that shady, even if you are posting the source at the end. There really wasn't much else for me to critique, as the very few posts that had words of your own were submitted in merit threads. If you want a better score next round, try to post more organically, cool?


Disqualified Participants

• IvanRed58rus: Does not qualify. Only 4 posts in Round 5 were in English
• Crypttoman: Does not qualify. Only 6 posts have been made in Round 5; none of the posts were in English.
• marcelo01: Does not qualify. 0 posts have been made in Round 5
• btctrad0r: Disqualified. Wearing paid signature (SKYFchain)
• nalinpuri: Does not qualify. Only 5 posts have been made in Round 5
• maflec0713: Does not qualify. Only 2 posts have been made in Round 5
• Ancient skills: Does not qualify. Only 3 posts have been made in Round 5
• rockyz: Does not qualify. 0 posts have been made in Round 5
• Lorin: Disqualified. Applied for paid signature campaign (BitWhisk)
• sull.kureen: Does not qualify. Only 2 posts have been made in Round 5
• oleksaUA0209: Disqualified. Wearing paid signature (GymRewards)
• kiemnhieutien: Disqualified. Wearing paid signature campaign (IOS)
• EzBreezy: Disqualified. Wearing paid signature campaign (IOS)
• jony35490: Disqualified. This user is wearing a signature from an expired paid campaign (Ultima)

[BTCforJoe]

Woohoo! I finally ranked haha. I promised to sponsor 2 merits as Consolidation prize as well for Newbies and Junior members so shall i merit butka?

Yes, but let's wait for him to post which post he would like to receive the merits for. If you agree with his selection, then you can feel free to award that post. Otherwise, if you don't agree with his selection, feel free to look through his post history and provide the merits for the post you find the most meritorious.

Congrats!