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October 18, 2013, 01:35:42 AM
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true, use those F14's for something! 
 I did try to use them in front of the heatsinks briefly since they were bigger and suppose to be higher CFM but were terrible..  I guess without the shroud, or the smaller ones just have better pressure in the right targeted area

here's the pics for the intake switch!

http://imgur.com/a/NK3KQ


Whats your power source for all those extra-fans?

Do you plug them onto the beagle or do you have some extra fan-controller?
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October 18, 2013, 01:49:48 AM
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yep nothing extra plugged in besides the top fan and a couple small crappy usb fans

if you do put exhaust fans on, you can just plug them in with 4pin molex adapters to the main powersupply.
Good case fans come with all the extra adapters

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October 18, 2013, 03:38:22 AM
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With all the activity on the thread, I have a bit of reading to do in order to catch up.

However I just wanted to update on the status of the shipment that I have been waiting on.

I will post the unboxing photos and a few preliminary results before I get down to 12hr and 24hr testing.

These came packaged the same as the first unit back on October 4th.

The same issues on this batch, cooler fans being detached during shipping, and one ASIC Cooler heatsink was bent. Apart from that nothing out of the ordinary.
The units shipped with firmware v0.9.1

Here are the results after a few minutes.

Doing a baseline on this new hardware with firmware v0.9.5
I have Jupiter 1 on an OCZ1250 Power Supply The others are on Corsair AX860i


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October 18, 2013, 03:48:38 AM
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true, use those F14's for something!  
 I did try to use them in front of the heatsinks briefly since they were bigger and suppose to be higher CFM but were terrible..  I guess without the shroud, or the smaller ones just have better pressure in the right targeted area

here's the pics for the intake switch!

http://imgur.com/a/NK3KQ

Hey hey, first jupiter I've seen with led lights! I might get some duct tape and put go faster stripes on mine Smiley

I'll then probably find myself shouting "Go faster!" at it  Roll Eyes

I did similar thing, but I put 2 extra fans at other side of unit, pulling air out:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mckxrilkjbehwb7/2013-10-16%2021.04.53.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0gnwph9fmrl85rv/2013-10-16%2021.05.09.jpg
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October 18, 2013, 03:52:44 AM
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Here are photo's of the unboxing.

New V2 4VRM Design




Same default low CFM intake and cooler fans.



ASIC Modules Assembly line #'s
Note: we have noticed that ASIC Modules with #1 has better performance overall however it may be a coincidence.




Bent ASIC Chip Cooler


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October 18, 2013, 05:44:32 AM
Last edit: October 18, 2013, 07:43:25 AM by Sitarow
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1hr result with firmware v0.9.5
Not much different at this time.

Only Jupiter unit 3 seems to be performing similar to  Jupiter 1.
I will swap out the intake fans on that unit and also apply the heatsink fan relocation trick that was posted by DPoS






2hr Results


3hr Results

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October 18, 2013, 07:17:34 AM
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Kano you think
That firmware of knc miners
Have any big bug or problem?
I have no idea - I've never seen one Tongue
(and I don't expect to ever see one either)

Odd though that they don't put all those extra stats in the API stats ... but instead you have to run some extra program.

Hi Kano

here 'Orama said he sent the cgminer driver source code to Luke-jr and ckolivas, so I think you'll be able to see it easily

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3358406#msg3358406

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October 18, 2013, 07:24:52 AM
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Kano you think
That firmware of knc miners
Have any big bug or problem?
I have no idea - I've never seen one Tongue
(and I don't expect to ever see one either)

Odd though that they don't put all those extra stats in the API stats ... but instead you have to run some extra program.

Hi Kano

here 'Orama said he sent the cgminer driver source code to Luke-jr and ckolivas, so I think you'll be able to see it easily

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3358406#msg3358406
I was referring to a KFCminer Smiley

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October 18, 2013, 07:33:54 AM
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Kano you think
That firmware of knc miners
Have any big bug or problem?
I have no idea - I've never seen one Tongue
(and I don't expect to ever see one either)

Odd though that they don't put all those extra stats in the API stats ... but instead you have to run some extra program.

Hi Kano

here 'Orama said he sent the cgminer driver source code to Luke-jr and ckolivas, so I think you'll be able to see it easily

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3358406#msg3358406
I was referring to a KFCminer Smiley

now it's clear KFC... Tongue

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October 18, 2013, 07:46:32 AM
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Tried 0.96 for awhile and found it gave me a higher WU/m then 0.95.

However, 0.93/0.94 still gave me the higher WU/m so I'm back to the old firmware.
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October 18, 2013, 07:50:03 AM
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Tried 0.96 for awhile and found it gave me a higher WU/m then 0.95.

However, 0.93/0.94 still gave me the higher WU/m so I'm back to the old firmware.

Thanks for that update. I am noticing that Jupiter 1 and Jupiter 3 are not at optimal performance. I will test them with firmware v0.9.6 in the next 21hrs.
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October 18, 2013, 09:19:58 AM
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Results from My Sick Jupiter Test.

Running 0.96

sic Tests 10 to 20 mins hasing Board by Board.

Asic #3 (the 3 DC/DC Board)
CGminer would not run came up with a lot of errors about bad config.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asic #0
35 Degrees C
Avarage 72.42Gh/s ,  A-14082 , R-78 , HW-3994 , WU:1168.9/m
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asic #2
32.5 Degrees C
Average 78.2Gh/s  ,  A-5890 , R-72 , HW-5454 , WU:1294/m
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asic #4
48.5 Degrees C
Avarage 135Gh/s , A-22018 , R-372 , HW-5454 , WU:1921.1/m
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asic #0,2,4
Average 284.5Gh/s , A-4558, R-264 , HW-8817 , WU: 4330.2/m
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

root@Jupiter-3B3:/config# pwd
/config
root@Jupiter-3B3:/config# more asic_test


ASIC board #0 has 4 DC/DC
Found a KnC miner with 192 cores
KnC ASICs: good cores: 53 from 192
KnC ASICs: good cores after re-test: 83 from 192
KnC ASICs: good cores after re-test: 105 from 192
Good cores map:
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 C3 3C FB DD EF FE FF EE F3 FF FE FF FF


LM75 error: Bad ID 0xFFFFFFFF
ASIC board #1 has 0 DC/DC
MEGADLYNX[0] error: Bad PMBUS revision 0xFFFFFFFF
MEGADLYNX[2] error: Bad PMBUS revision 0xFFFFFFFF
MEGADLYNX[4] error: Bad PMBUS revision 0xFFFFFFFF
MEGADLYNX[7] error: Bad PMBUS revision 0xFFFFFFFF
I2C test failed!
SPI detected, but no KnCminer cores
SPI test failed!
EEPROM read failed!
EEPROM write failed!


ASIC board #2 has 4 DC/DC
Found a KnC miner with 192 cores
KnC ASICs: good cores: 85 from 192
KnC ASICs: good cores after re-test: 120 from 192
KnC ASICs: good cores after re-test: 133 from 192
Good cores map:
 EC B5 FE FD FE 3D 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 32 C3 3C F0 CF 00 00 00 00 00 00


ASIC board #3 has 3 DC/DC
MEGADLYNX[0] error: Bad PMBUS revision 0xFFFFFFFF
I2C test failed!
Found a KnC miner with 192 cores
KnC ASICs: good cores: 57 from 192
KnC ASICs: good cores after re-test: 65 from 192
KnC ASICs: good cores after re-test: 74 from 192
Good cores map:
 00 00 00 00 00 00 6C B3 E3 FF F3 FF 3E BE EB 3E BF FF BE FB FF FF FF FF


ASIC board #4 has 4 DC/DC
Found a KnC miner with 192 cores
KnC ASICs: good cores: 176 from 192
KnC ASICs: good cores after re-test: 188 from 192
KnC ASICs: good cores after re-test: 188 from 192
Good cores map:
 00 00 00 00 03 0C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


LM75 error: Bad ID 0xFFFFFFFF
ASIC board #5 has 0 DC/DC
MEGADLYNX[0] error: Bad PMBUS revision 0xFFFFFFFF
MEGADLYNX[2] error: Bad PMBUS revision 0xFFFFFFFF
MEGADLYNX[4] error: Bad PMBUS revision 0xFFFFFFFF
MEGADLYNX[7] error: Bad PMBUS revision 0xFFFFFFFF
I2C test failed!
SPI detected, but no KnCminer cores
SPI test failed!
EEPROM read failed!
EEPROM write failed!
root@Jupiter-3B3:/config#
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October 18, 2013, 09:27:49 AM
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does kano or jr luk

make any patch for core on the core off asic chip? Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided
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October 18, 2013, 10:25:20 AM
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now anybody could look at knc cgminer source code

http://www.kncminer.com/userfiles/file/cgminer_knc.tgz

driver-knc.c contains the knc driver Tongue

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October 18, 2013, 12:53:29 PM
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does kano or jr luk

make any patch for core on the core off asic chip? Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

still to early they've just received the code and the miners are on their way....

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October 18, 2013, 04:20:34 PM
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VRMs temp is veeeery hot  Shocked

I need RAM cooler
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October 18, 2013, 06:06:03 PM
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Could someone please summarize their findings with the last firmware versions? Something like these data points:

- Firmware version
-  Power consumption
-  Hashrate
-  Temp
- Errors, etc/

I think this would help distill some of the long discussion here.
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October 18, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
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Could someone please summarize their findings with the last firmware versions? Something like these data points:

- Firmware version
-  Power consumption
-  Hashrate
-  Temp
- Errors, etc/

I think this would help distill some of the long discussion here.
I'll post something in a few hours.

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October 18, 2013, 07:51:31 PM
Last edit: October 18, 2013, 09:10:55 PM by AFox
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--------------------0.940.950.96
Average CGminer270Gh/s274Gh/s280Gh/s
Average Pool275Gh/s263Gh/s278Gh/s (link)
Consumption485 Watts  305 Watts313 Watts
Temputure54 & 62°C42 & 47°C42 & 47°C
Rejected1.5%0.22%0.38%
HW2.81%0.79%1.08%
WU3975/m3717/m3933/m

0.940.950.96

Anyways I'll stick to firmware 0.96.
From the beginning I wanted to mine on Eligius and with firmware 0.90 to 0.95 I had the flushwork issue.
It seems that 0.96 solved that issue; it's been 24 hours that I'm mining on Eligius.

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October 18, 2013, 08:14:07 PM
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 Those are some low HW error % !!     Shocked

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