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April 02, 2018, 04:48:17 PM |
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RNG have memory how? every roll is independent,at least if the provably fair implmentation is correct and the game is not rigged
It is funny how Gambler's fallacy refuses to die. RNGs are technically different to provably fair systems, but neither can remember what the last roll was any more than the coin you flip can.
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houseworx
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April 02, 2018, 05:12:23 PM Last edit: April 02, 2018, 05:49:01 PM by houseworx |
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maximum what you can get expect in row on 49.50%(2x payout with 1% HE) is something around +/- 35 There... fixed that for you. Theoretically, the maximum number of losses in a row that you can get is infinite. Given each "roll" is independent from any prior rolls... your chance is still 49.5% every roll. I'm sure there will be someone that will one day break all known "records" and get some ridiculous run of like 50 losses. RNG have "memory" thats why you have near 100% correct "luck" numbers after X bets on X fixed winning chance %. each play percentage has own maximum possibility deviations from the norm. thats why you can't get 100 reds in row on 49.50%, but can get 1500 reds in row on 1% how long time dice game is in industry? 4-5 years? (i dont know) ask yourself why there is no fixed proof about someone who was get 35+ streak on that 2x payout(with 1% HE and trusted site) after that kind of time? because no one had it.i can write every forum, and tell that i was get 60reds in row, and from this moment all will trust that is a "Record"? I even can make screenshot in photoshop, and? its stupid to trust every thing what you can read somewhere RNG have memory how? every roll is independent,at least if the provably fair implmentation is correct and the game is not rigged theoretically if a million monkeys type on million pc's for infinite time,you can get 100 reds in a row,no problem,the only thing is when also you can get much more than 1500 reds on 1%,I use the rule of 13x thumbs to simplify its 13x your multiplier,starting from 2x to determine the minimum amount of reds you should be able to cover with your bank for a relatively safe martingale p.s. I had 27 reds on 2x,but you won't trust me of course roll any winning chance and watch and think why your "luck" number will be near 100% correct, after some time(rolls) (how much? depends from win percentage.) if every bet was been 100% independent, then you can get even on 98% chance 50% luck on 50 000 rolls, but you can't yes you can get 1500 even little bit more on ~1% chance, say it was 1800 after that kind of streak your luck number will be ~5%? i think something like that, what does that means? after several time(rolls) your luck will be back on 100%, it can be that next 2000 rolls you will have ~36-37(19-20 from this last 2000 what you deserve, and that 16-17 from last 1800 what are in "indebtedness") wins and you will be around 100% luck, thats how rng works. (but ofc on 1% chance it can be even 50 000-70 000 rolls to get 100% luck +/- 1% its hard) p.s why you thinks that i dont trust about your 27reds on 2x payout? its realistic, till 30 i can trust and i dont care, but i never see any fixed proof of 30+ streak
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seuntjie (OP)
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April 03, 2018, 08:44:21 AM |
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Hi seuntjie ! Thank you making this bot. I have allready thanked you twice but i guess it never hurts. I will donate to you if i make any money. I have had this bug where bets made does not show the last zero(es). Maybe it's not a bug and the zeroes are left out because they are irrelevant ? I'm making this post because my brain needs to take a 160 satoshi bet more serious than a 16 satoshi bet. Exponential growth is no joke and if running wild it will bust my bankroll I've tried different versions and it does it in all versions. It does not show the 0 if the bet ends in 0. It DOES show all other zeroes. I made a screenshot to show you what i'm talking about: https://ibb.co/c3AvpnI'll take a look at a few formatting options, but I'm not promising anything. roll any winning chance and watch and think why your "luck" number will be near 100% correct, after some time(rolls) (how much? depends from win percentage.) if every bet was been 100% independent, then you can get even on 98% chance 50% luck on 50 000 rolls, but you can't yes you can get 1500 even little bit more on ~1% chance, say it was 1800 after that kind of streak your luck number will be ~5%? i think something like that, what does that means? after several time(rolls) your luck will be back on 100%, it can be that next 2000 rolls you will have ~36-37(19-20 from this last 2000 what you deserve, and that 16-17 from last 1800 what are in "indebtedness") wins and you will be around 100% luck, thats how rng works. (but ofc on 1% chance it can be even 50 000-70 000 rolls to get 100% luck +/- 1% its hard) p.s why you thinks that i dont trust about your 27reds on 2x payout? its realistic, till 30 i can trust and i dont care, but i never see any fixed proof of 30+ streak That's how RNG works over an infinite amount of rolls, not over a finite amount. Over any finite amount of rolls, your luck can end up being 1% or 1000%. These are obviously extreme examples, but it is not unlikely that your luck will have a variance of at least 5% over millions of rolls. Here's some concrete proof on a 30 winning streak and a 32 losing streak: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=610339.msg7060900#msg7060900
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houseworx
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April 03, 2018, 05:19:17 PM |
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Hi seuntjie ! Thank you making this bot. I have allready thanked you twice but i guess it never hurts. I will donate to you if i make any money. I have had this bug where bets made does not show the last zero(es). Maybe it's not a bug and the zeroes are left out because they are irrelevant ? I'm making this post because my brain needs to take a 160 satoshi bet more serious than a 16 satoshi bet. Exponential growth is no joke and if running wild it will bust my bankroll I've tried different versions and it does it in all versions. It does not show the 0 if the bet ends in 0. It DOES show all other zeroes. I made a screenshot to show you what i'm talking about: https://ibb.co/c3AvpnI'll take a look at a few formatting options, but I'm not promising anything. roll any winning chance and watch and think why your "luck" number will be near 100% correct, after some time(rolls) (how much? depends from win percentage.) if every bet was been 100% independent, then you can get even on 98% chance 50% luck on 50 000 rolls, but you can't yes you can get 1500 even little bit more on ~1% chance, say it was 1800 after that kind of streak your luck number will be ~5%? i think something like that, what does that means? after several time(rolls) your luck will be back on 100%, it can be that next 2000 rolls you will have ~36-37(19-20 from this last 2000 what you deserve, and that 16-17 from last 1800 what are in "indebtedness") wins and you will be around 100% luck, thats how rng works. (but ofc on 1% chance it can be even 50 000-70 000 rolls to get 100% luck +/- 1% its hard) p.s why you thinks that i dont trust about your 27reds on 2x payout? its realistic, till 30 i can trust and i dont care, but i never see any fixed proof of 30+ streak That's how RNG works over an infinite amount of rolls, not over a finite amount. Over any finite amount of rolls, your luck can end up being 1% or 1000%. These are obviously extreme examples, but it is not unlikely that your luck will have a variance of at least 5% over millions of rolls. Here's some concrete proof on a 30 winning streak and a 32 losing streak: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=610339.msg7060900#msg7060900variance on higher winning chances is not so much "sick" and are good place to think what to do with it
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April 03, 2018, 08:44:46 PM |
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Hi seuntjie ! Thank you making this bot. I have allready thanked you twice but i guess it never hurts. I will donate to you if i make any money. I have had this bug where bets made does not show the last zero(es). Maybe it's not a bug and the zeroes are left out because they are irrelevant ? I'm making this post because my brain needs to take a 160 satoshi bet more serious than a 16 satoshi bet. Exponential growth is no joke and if running wild it will bust my bankroll I've tried different versions and it does it in all versions. It does not show the 0 if the bet ends in 0. It DOES show all other zeroes. I made a screenshot to show you what i'm talking about: https://ibb.co/c3AvpnI'll take a look at a few formatting options, but I'm not promising anything. Okay, thanks. If you want to spend the time, i'm thankfull. If it's too much work then i am still very gratefull for your awesome bot. Can i ask you, out of pure curiosity; Did you code the bot on purpose like that ? Leaving out the irrelevant zeroes.
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seuntjie (OP)
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April 03, 2018, 09:17:35 PM |
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Okay, thanks. If you want to spend the time, i'm thankfull. If it's too much work then i am still very gratefull for your awesome bot. Can i ask you, out of pure curiosity; Did you code the bot on purpose like that ? Leaving out the irrelevant zeroes.
I didn't add any formatting to that field as far as I can remember. The default formatting that .net does was good enough for me (because it usually drops irrelevant zeros but shows the relevant decimal points), BUT, the formatting kind of depends on the data that I get from the site. The string that is parsed into a number eventually affects the format, so some sites might show 8 decimals while others might only show the relevant zeros. Some might go up to 12 or 13 decimals while others are capped to 8. If I guessed, I will probably set it to have a minimum of 8 decimals and allow it to go up to 15 or something.
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April 04, 2018, 09:20:24 AM |
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I ask to add a site yobit.net
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April 04, 2018, 11:25:37 AM |
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I ask to add a site yobit.net
adding sites costs money it is not a charity and this wonderful exchange would have to pay to get Seunjie's bot support added since their main thing is getting money for adding crap coins and trying to win a Guiness book nomination for the longest support team response among all of the exchanges I highly doubt Yobit would pay for it
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April 04, 2018, 12:24:22 PM |
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I am a simple person, my income for the month is $ 300 (salary). I want to earn not a lot of money on that site. I can offer you% of what I win there.
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April 04, 2018, 12:30:41 PM |
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this sites is earning?
haw i can earn? here is some video tutorial?
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seuntjie (OP)
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April 04, 2018, 03:24:22 PM |
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I am a simple person, my income for the month is $ 300 (salary). I want to earn not a lot of money on that site. I can offer you% of what I win there.
Yobit is not provably fair. Even if they did approach me and offer to pay for it, I would not add them to the bot. My recommendation to you would be to take the time and money you spend on gambling and use it for something constructive, like learning a new skill so that you can find a better job, with a better salary and improve your quality of life. gambling is never going to do this for you, it will only suck up any time and money you put into it. this sites is earning?
haw i can earn? here is some video tutorial?
DiceBot is not meant to earn you money, it's meant to make the game of dice more fun and interesting.
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April 05, 2018, 04:24:47 AM |
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I am a simple person, my income for the month is $ 300 (salary).
You do not sound like you have the discretionary income to be gambling on dice sites. As always, one should never gamble with money they cannot afford to lose. You do not sound like you can afford to lose anything if you are only making $300 a month! I think you need to reevaluate your gambling before getting into serious financial trouble. this sites is earning? haw i can earn? here is some video tutorial?
I'll tell you right now... There are no "tricks" or "techniques" or "eBooks" or "systems" or "video tutorials" that will be able to guarantee the ability to "earn" money from gambling... unless the place you're gambling at is fundamentally broken and/or there is some way to cheat the system. Gambling should be treated as "entertainment"... it most definitely is NOT a way to make a living... unless you actually own or work at a Casino! I'm fairly sure there is a joke that goes something like "How do you make a small fortune by gambling?... Start with a LARGE fortune!" Trust me on this, I work at a real life casino. I have access to all the numbers and statistics... they do NOT make good reading for the players.
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April 09, 2018, 09:02:12 PM |
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Okay, thanks. If you want to spend the time, i'm thankfull. If it's too much work then i am still very gratefull for your awesome bot. Can i ask you, out of pure curiosity; Did you code the bot on purpose like that ? Leaving out the irrelevant zeroes.
I didn't add any formatting to that field as far as I can remember. The default formatting that .net does was good enough for me (because it usually drops irrelevant zeros but shows the relevant decimal points), BUT, the formatting kind of depends on the data that I get from the site. The string that is parsed into a number eventually affects the format, so some sites might show 8 decimals while others might only show the relevant zeros. Some might go up to 12 or 13 decimals while others are capped to 8. If I guessed, I will probably set it to have a minimum of 8 decimals and allow it to go up to 15 or something. I understand. Thank you for your reply
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April 30, 2018, 11:05:07 AM |
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bitsler just added stratis and neo to their site. i hope for a dicebot update soon
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May 16, 2018, 05:10:15 PM |
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Hi We just launched a new site and our api has changed (it's simpler now). Is it possible for you to update DiceBot to support BetKing.io?
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May 17, 2018, 08:51:19 AM |
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Hi We just launched a new site and our api has changed (it's simpler now). Is it possible for you to update DiceBot to support BetKing.io?
Hi Dean Do you have any API docs available?
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May 17, 2018, 10:02:18 AM |
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Hi We just launched a new site and our api has changed (it's simpler now). Is it possible for you to update DiceBot to support BetKing.io?
Hi Dean Do you have any API docs available? If you give me a list the api requests you normally need to make I can get you docs for them Thanks
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June 17, 2018, 12:38:25 PM |
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@Seuntjies, can I connect to this bot through tor? /Do I just use https://127.0.0.1:9050 with tor open in the background or is this not possible?
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June 17, 2018, 12:43:25 PM |
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@Seuntjies, can I connect to this bot through tor? /Do I just use https://127.0.0.1:9050 with tor open in the background or is this not possible? I have not looked into tor support at all. I'm not familiar with the technical details of how tor works. You can try to use your tor node as a proxy server and see if it works but I can't give any guarantees. Note that not all sites in DiceBot has proxy support.
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June 18, 2018, 08:12:20 PM |
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@Seuntjies, can I connect to this bot through tor? /Do I just use https://127.0.0.1:9050 with tor open in the background or is this not possible? Tor's 9050 port is just a SOCKS5 proxy. If the bot supports SOCKS5, then it does. However, connection reliability is less on tor than on the normal internet.
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