BitcoinCasinoPro Corrupted and Unethical Behavior | More Evidence!

[bit777]

BitcoinCasinoPro is operating in a very corrupted and unethical manner, which has no place in the bitcoin community. I will let you draw your own conclusions. Operators shouldn't support him in any way as paying for higher grade corrupts the entire idea by itself and misleads users.

Read through this: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7659/betcoin-tm-allegedly-fraudulent-activity/ , The group in question does have A+ Rating!!!

This is a chat transcript from a chat we had on Peerbet.org. Mind the 19 "paying for quality" operators he mentions:



Take a look here:



Not paying companies receive low grades, including our perfectly fair Wheel game @ Peerbet.org



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I'd like to draw attention to our Bit777 review.

http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bit777/

BCP Overall Rating
C-
Software   D-
Financial Security   B-
Customer Service   B+
Promotions   C-

Questionable hand results based on a 20 hand seed.
D- for our software - Yeah, right.
B- for financial security - We don't have a single payout complaint in 6 months with currently 11,000 people that have passed through the site. Not sure B- is realistic.
B+ for customer service - We reply to all customer questions within the hour by email, and we reply actively on the forum.
C- for promotions - Now that is outright bullshit. We are most likely the only casino that offers decent deposit bonuses, we do have 2 separate freebie giveaways, and we also comp our regular players whenever they ask for it. How is that C-??

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I want to share briefly my experience with BitcoinCasinoPro:

About a month ago he showed great enthusiasm in rating satoshibet.com, and requested 0.5 free BTC to "test the site" with. I really don't like this practice of comping reviewers in the first place, it feels really like paying/bribing for a review.

Seeing as we allow bets starting from 0.000001 BTC, I decided to comply and figured 0.1 BTC should be sufficient for this purpose.
He played shortly afterwards and lost it all basically risking it all at once in a very short time martingaling 1 game. He clearly wasn't testing but just gambling away.

A few weeks go by and I inquire if he liked the site. I get a response that he "wasn't able to withdraw because he lost extremely quick, and hence is not able to offer a fair evaluation". And if I "can provide more info regards to this please".

I find this somewhat bully behavior, it just feels like you are trying to squeeze out a few BTC to get "payed" for a (good?) review.
If I ever get a rating on your site it probably will be a very bad one after I posted this, but Satoshibet does not condone this behavior from review sites.

I wonder what other casinos experience was?

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We were downgraded to D+ for having slow payouts for one day out of our ~8 months of operation. If I didn't care less I would actually complain. Either way I agree with OP that the grades are ridiculously skewed.

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We work hard for our stellar reputation and we do feel we do not have to pay for high grades to get them.

Please note, that this is not an attack on the highly graded businesses, as most of them do have a great reputation.

Also we have not verified his words with the majority of the 'paying' operators. They are welcome to post their experience in this thread.


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UPDATE:

It only took 3 screenshots of his own actions in the open public to push his biased scoring even further. He downgraded our score for challenging his actions. Corrupted behavior at its finest.



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here are my two topic

real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309060.0

bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300044.0

so bitcoincasinopro only assisted to bitcoinlivebets to steal all my winnings : 30 BTC  

It is obviously for a 10 years old child, who could use calculator that here is something wrong.   (bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet to my account with stake 29,601 BTC,  while they max limit is only 3 BTC)
http://www46.zippyshare.com/d/82456415/1815851/bitcoinkivebetsfakeaccounthistory.xlsx

after assisting for this robbing bitcoincasinopro upgraded  bitcoinlivebets from C  to B




I did not invest to bitcoincasinopro, perhaps bitcoinlivebets did ...

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He is attacking casinos in reviews and publicly on this forum (Namely SWC and Bit777), that provide similar services of casinos he has been affiliates of for years, that lended him USD or BTC to get started here.  IMO clear conflict of interests, now honestly he runs a pretty decent site, except in these cases, I do believe however with the 2 new competing sites, he will lose his corner on being our watchdog.  I really think one of the new site that offers SEO service will clearly progress if the desire is there, that where this guy actually does achieve in his desire.

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This guy's a low-life.

He contacted the owner of Bitwincasino.com & offered to submit a free casino review initially, (though alarm bells started ringing after I noticed this thread shortly afterwards).

The owner of Bitwincasino.com then contacted him regards the review at which point he demanded 12BTC for it, or he would provide a negative review (full story here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309060.0).

Steer clear of this guy & his site.

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Just-Dice chat. This is how you get an A+. All you need to do is pay 25btc and its done! The article in question: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7659/betcoin-tm-allegedly-fraudulent-activity/

13:54:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> sounds like another gambling agenda from someone
13:54:27 (72492) <badguy> with that much evidence...highly doubt it
13:54:43 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they have spent 2000 btcs on advertising
13:54:44 (72492) <badguy> there are screenshots of actual copyright theft, hash theft
13:54:50 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> why would they "do evil"?
13:54:55 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> just dont understand
13:54:55 (72492) <badguy> trademark theft
13:55:04 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> oh I agree thats messed up
13:55:17 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> but no harm no foul? we are talking words not actual programs
13:55:33 (72492) <badguy> are they a paid sponsor on your site?
13:55:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> yes
13:55:59 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> so is 19 other companies
13:57:03 (72492) <badguy> yeah, well in my opinion, and apparently what i read, stealing someone else's product isnt cool
13:57:08 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i agree
13:57:12 (72492) <badguy> shows real low moral character
13:57:21 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> but from a service perspective to players what risk?>
13:57:31 (72492) <badguy> hah
13:57:35 (72492) <badguy> ill tell you what
13:57:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> give me a reason to downgrade that effects play
13:57:40 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i will right now
13:58:03 (72492) <badguy> if today they do all this, tomorrow they will just quit with their players balances, and vanish
13:58:05 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> what they doing is shady it's uncool to steal peoples homework
13:58:17 (710) <drfred> what? i highly doubt that 12:54:43 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they have spent 2000 btcs on advertising
13:58:18 (134004) <SJ> have you read that article on betcoin?
13:58:35 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> just look in the bitcoin forum auctions
13:58:49 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they won a full month in a row at 250 btc x 8 slots a week?
13:59:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> for how many weeks plus they donated 50 btc to them , 25 or so to us, 100;s of other locations
13:59:11 (72492) <badguy> bro, madoff was running a ponzi for 50 years, 49 years he was ok, and people were happy. theft happens only once
13:59:12 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they have spent lots
13:59:37 (134004) <SJ> so theyre basically buying their rating from you
13:59:42 (72492) <badguy> ^^^
13:59:47 (710) <drfred> @ray: no, about betcoin
13:59:57 (72492) <badguy> SJ right on spot
14:00:02 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> no but financial security is a portion of the rating
14:00:25 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> just-dice spent zero with us and they rank A+
14:00:31 (98066) <Nix> wait so I could open a site and pay you to make it sound good?
14:00:32 (72492) <badguy> well bcp I don't understand how can you defend them after all their actions
14:00:35 (134004) <SJ> have you read that betcoin article?
14:00:42 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they don't even offer an affiliate program so no money earned just losses occur from sending players here
14:00:43 (134004) <SJ> betcoin should be nowhere near a+ site
14:01:07 (710) <drfred> they gave him money @SJ, he cant rate them bad
14:01:17 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they offer provable gaming, have financial security
14:01:28 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> good feedback from playerss
14:01:28 (134004) <SJ> have you read that article??
14:01:32 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> the 3 main components
14:01:35 (168205) <wanda> LOL
14:01:36 (134004) <SJ> they dont offer provably fair at all
14:01:41 (710) <drfred> or at least he wont
14:01:49 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> actually its lock tight they use blockchain
14:01:57 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> Doug could verify that
14:02:07 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> oh don'
14:02:11 (72492) <badguy> its not man
14:02:13 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> the satoshi wheel
14:02:16 (134004) <SJ> when the secret keys for the previous days were clicked on nothing was revealed. They were empty. This is disturbing as it appears that BetCoinDice’s secret keys information has been lifted directly from the SatoshiDice website
14:02:21 (710) <drfred> as bitpro did prove earlier, he's an expert about security
14:02:21 (134004) <SJ> how is that provably fair??
14:02:28 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> its not
14:02:43 (72492) <badguy> Tradefortress revealed their fairness is a scam
14:02:50 (70603) <life> 19:01:17 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they offer provable gaming, have financial security
14:02:50 (72492) <badguy> in the forum some time ago
14:02:51 (70603) <life> 19:02:28 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> its not
14:03:09 (168205) <wanda> TIL bitcoincasinopro isn't a pro at anything
14:03:15 (134004) <SJ> so bitcoincasinopro is just takin gthe money to keep them a+ then so loses all respect
14:03:25 (70603) <life> bcpro is a paid fraud shill from the beginning
14:03:31 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> nah
14:03:32 (710) <drfred> looks like that, yes
14:03:33 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/betcoin-network/betcoin-circle-playing-unfair-network-downgraded/
14:03:38 (72492) <badguy> for real
14:04:51 (72492) <badguy> bcp what you are showing is nonsense
14:04:53 (134004) <SJ> bitcoincasinopro you even have their link right there on the front page
14:05:06 (134004) <SJ> so im sorry but youre promoting an obvious scam site for money
14:05:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i exposed them for not offering a fair wheel
14:05:15 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> that portion has been downgraded
14:05:23 (134004) <SJ> take their link off your front page
14:05:24 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> how is that not fair?
14:05:52 (134004) <SJ> on your front page under dice sites part way down they are the first site listed
14:05:56 (134004) <SJ> how much did they pay you for that
14:06:44 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they cheated me directly on the wheel prior to offering provable gaming for it
14:06:49 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i lost 2 btc out of it
14:07:00 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> dont act like Im not a player as you all are right?
14:07:02 (197637) <Vani> http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com is that your website?
14:07:03 (134004) <SJ> take them off your front page
14:07:03 (168205) <wanda> we need to make a website that rates websites that rates casinos.
14:07:09 (72492) <badguy> you just said they paid you 25btc
14:07:29 (710) <drfred> @wanda: I'm so in on that
14:07:34 (134004) <SJ> why would you have a scam site listed first on the front page under dice sites?
14:07:42 (710) <drfred> meta-rating
14:07:47 (72492) <badguy> SJ its also A+ rated!!!
14:07:51 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> the dice is provable fair they use blockchain
14:08:22 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> I will ask the seasoned vets to review the gaming fairness again
14:08:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> and just for the record tradefortress was one that validated that it is indeed fair
14:08:38 (134004) <SJ> bitcoincasinopro you are a sellout
14:08:45 (134004) <SJ> ive just lost all respect for your site and you
14:08:53 (168205) <wanda> +1
14:09:01 (72492) <badguy> tradefortress is the one that revealed their fairness is fake!!!
14:09:08 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> originally
14:09:12 (72492) <badguy> you schill
14:09:21 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> than went to posting it was legitimate
14:09:26 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> I kept the records
14:09:48 (134004) <SJ> how much did they pay you to be first site listed on front page under dice sites?
14:09:55 (72492) <badguy> wanda +1 on the idea , we really need a review site to filter people like bcp
14:10:00 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they didn't pay for that elite spot
14:10:12 (134004) <SJ> so why do you have a scam site there then
14:10:12 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they paid a yearly fee to be included
14:13:47 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> again i lose money promoting just-dice and they A+
14:13:50 (168205) <wanda> i skipped to the bottom of that document, saw a bitcoin address right next to an A+ rating logo
14:13:51 (72492) <badguy> if tomorrow i come up with a dice site and pay you, ill get A+ too, then i scam people and go away
14:13:54 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> Bitzino A+ dont earn a penny there
14:14:07 (134004) <SJ> youre protecting a scam site simple as that
14:14:14 (134004) <SJ> because they line your pockets
14:14:30 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i have declined many offers sorta like bit companies
14:14:37 (710) <drfred> hahahahaha 13:13:47 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> again i lose money promoting just-dice and they A
14:14:40 (710) <drfred> weird logic
14:14:48 (72492) <badguy> ^^^
14:14:52 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bitwin-casino/
14:14:52 (134004) <SJ> youre protecting a scam site BCP its so obvious and simple
14:17:12 (168205) <wanda> bcp you have 0 integrity
14:17:14 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> you know what
14:17:20 (72492) <badguy> you are a fucking joke
14:17:21 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> 10+ have complained about the rating
14:17:32 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> peoples thoughts are one of the bigger factors
14:17:36 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> lets calculate
14:17:39 (168205) <wanda> no 1 cares
14:17:43 (168205) <wanda> ur a joke
14:17:48 (134004) <SJ> you and your site is a joke BCP really,
14:17:56 (72492) <badguy> hahahaha
14:18:07 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> BCP Overall Rating B+ Software A+ Financial Security A+ Dice Promotions A+ Player Feedback C-
14:18:20 (134004) <SJ> how much do i need to pay you get my site listed first with a+ rating, how much does that cost
14:18:25 (72492) <badguy> changing your own rating because others are calling you out?
14:18:35 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> its been published
14:18:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> nothing has changed
14:18:44 (134004) <SJ> how much does it cost bcp?
14:18:48 (134004) <SJ> whats your bribe rates
14:18:58 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> ratings cannot be bought
14:18:59 (168205) <wanda> can i get a discounted bribe rate?
14:19:02 (72492) <badguy> man go hide in a cave
14:19:09 (134004) <SJ> youve proved they can be bought
14:19:15 (134004) <SJ> how much does a+ cost
14:19:19 (70603) <life> 12btc

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Oh and we are not an entity of SBR and have never claimed of being one.

I never claimed you are an entity of SBR, I was merely doing a comparison with a company you claimed that you have been a source of for 10 years.



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It seems like he wants to promote particular brands on his site to look more popular than others by paying people to post comments for these brands, who of course go through moderation.




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After a long hiatus from using Bitcoin, I have returned, to see many new casinos and games. The one thing that is extremely irritating is Alan Karre Jr's Bitcoin Casino Pro SCAM. Anybody can see that he has no idea how Bitcoin works.

Date Registered:   August 14, 2013, 01:37:47 PM

How is this guy even qualified to run a Bitcoin website?

ADMITTING HE IS A LIAR, AND LYING ABOUT HIS AFFILIATE PROGRAMS

Bitcoincasinopro.com does not partake in any type of revenue sharing or affiliate programs.

I found these redirects on your website, and I'm completely sure there are more:
http://777coin.com/?ref=2057
https://bitbook.biz/?referer=posterak

If these are not affiliate programs, what are they?

Yet another blatant lie from bitcoin casino "pro". Do you really think people are too stupid to understand what you've written in your "disclosure notice"? That is very insulting.



FAKE LINKS TO TRICK USERS INTO PLAYING ON THE WRONG WEBSITE

As you can see, the link to Satoshi Dice is redirecting to BitZino instead.

All of the links to dice, poker, and circle sites are pointing to Alan's friends' websites. Last time I checked, nether Satoshi Dice or Seals with Clubs had anything to do with BitZino.

Are they not paying you enough to deserve a link that actually directs back to their website Alan?

DO NOT TRUST bitcoin casino pro. Any gambling company that has advertised on bitcoin casino pro should be ASHAMED.

[aksplace]

back on the sauce again?  



I bet you can speak to several owners listed within the "Green boxes" where you accuse of such and they will agree with ratings and consider each other friends.

Another thing, is this the low ball tactic afraid we was going to publish this?



We have been transparent with you since the beginning and I continue to tell you "bullying tactics will not work!" Once players have a provable gaming atmosphere and a wallet that's loaded  I would be more than willing to discuss the rating.

[Mooshire]

It's ok, nobody trusts his ratings anyways. Why would you trust a 13 year old in his basement?

[bit777]

The screenshot you are publishing is irrelevant. We have suspended our instant withdrawals since more than 2 weeks ago, and that is the exact message it shows. We will be releasing Peerbet's new website soon and instant withdrawals will remain suspended until then.

[aksplace]

The screenshot you are publishing is irrelevant. We have suspended our instant withdrawals since more than 2 weeks ago, and that is the exact message it shows. We will be releasing Peerbet's new website soon and instant withdrawals will remain suspended until then.

Well lets break your accusation down one more time of the "5 none advertisers"

1 and 2. Bit777 and Peerbet Circle operated by the same company in which provable gaming is a big concern, Customer service well I think your actions clearly show they not very mature either not sure I would want 10 btc here.
3. Satoshi Poker -- Full of Bots along with many player complaints. On the side of that the folks who manage it I have spoke to for months and are decent people.
4. BitsPoker -- Another potential company that is currently a tad underfunded but the folks who manage it are also great individuals. I would bet 10 to 1 they would agree with current rating based on that alone although they vision a great site which I personally agree with.
5. Bit365, Like I have always mentioned we take players feedback into consideration and with a few searches its clearly visible the dissatisfaction by many and we also have them at a D- for Financial Security they are asking for floating loans previously and if I recall was slow paying for sometime. (don't quote me would have to look back at notes)

With that said I don't see how you could justify a higher poker rating for bitspoker or satoshi poker currently with poker sites like Seals With Clubs and Strike Sapphire available as honestly they are far from the same league at this present time. I have made it publicly clear Seals needs a competitor for the good of the industry and hope someone does so. I bet Micon could come into this thread and argue against your point as well not only from a poker standard but a rating standard as they actually declined advertising or banner swapping of any nature with us. (but we added them anyhow because it's good for the bitcoin gambling community and the right thing to do)

So if you can explain how we are corrupt or acting unethical please let me know because frankly your acting like a little boy who isn't allowed extra recess because he got caught pulling a girls hair in class. (oh and publicly declined advertising on Bit777 in the past month probably really burned your butt) Clearly we must be a threat to bit777 as on a regular basis and has became in inside joke on how "insecure you are with the rating we provide"

With all this being said I'm human far from being perfect but my goal and intentions are good. I'm sorry I refuse to just upgrade you guys without merit from my perspective if you have more players that want to submit positive ratings we would naturally upgrade like we would any other company. I have no "target" out on you just trying to offer the best service I can.

[bit777]

Well lets break your accusation down one more time of the "5 none advertisers"

3. Satoshi Poker -- Full of Bots along with many player complaints. On the side of that the folks who manage it I have spoke to for months and are decent people.
4. BitsPoker -- Another potential company that is currently a tad underfunded but the folks who manage it are also great individuals. I would bet 10 to 1 they would agree with current rating based on that alone although they vision a great site which I personally agree with.

With that said I don't see how you could justify a higher poker rating for bitspoker or satoshi poker currently with poker sites like Seals With Clubs and Strike Sapphire available as honestly they are far from the same league at this present time. I have made it publicly clear Seals needs a competitor for the good of the industry and hope someone does so. I bet Micon could come into this thread and argue against your point as well not only from a poker standard but a rating standard as they actually declined advertising or banner swapping of any nature with us. (but we added them anyhow because it's good for the bitcoin gambling community and the right thing to do)

Many think the real players are getting sucked dry from in house player accounts hence the reason people not coming back and bleeding out slowly. Of course we cannot prove such allegations but many similar stories coming forward after speaking with seasoned poker pros. Hard to tell especially if one don't spend the time to see what they was dealt by the chain and even then how do you differentiate a honest bluff with a "I know I got you beat with higher 6 kicker etc." I have to agree not looking good but another poker site is getting ready to make a huge splash soon enough which should at least make the field competitive which is clearly good for real bitcoin players.

Also Alan you seem to be involved in a scandal from a few years back: Alan Karre, Major Wager & Stolen Databases

http://mb.winneronline.com/showthread.html?p=117702&mode=threaded

[addi]

What about us AKsplace? I see we are not yet rated?

We are provably fair. We have a perfect track record of paying out all our players. We have had several big winners/payouts that proof our liquidity. We are a real, incorporated business.

[aksplace]

Well lets break your accusation down one more time of the "5 none advertisers"

3. Satoshi Poker -- Full of Bots along with many player complaints. On the side of that the folks who manage it I have spoke to for months and are decent people.
4. BitsPoker -- Another potential company that is currently a tad underfunded but the folks who manage it are also great individuals. I would bet 10 to 1 they would agree with current rating based on that alone although they vision a great site which I personally agree with.

With that said I don't see how you could justify a higher poker rating for bitspoker or satoshi poker currently with poker sites like Seals With Clubs and Strike Sapphire available as honestly they are far from the same league at this present time. I have made it publicly clear Seals needs a competitor for the good of the industry and hope someone does so. I bet Micon could come into this thread and argue against your point as well not only from a poker standard but a rating standard as they actually declined advertising or banner swapping of any nature with us. (but we added them anyhow because it's good for the bitcoin gambling community and the right thing to do)

Many think the real players are getting sucked dry from in house player accounts hence the reason people not coming back and bleeding out slowly. Of course we cannot prove such allegations but many similar stories coming forward after speaking with seasoned poker pros. Hard to tell especially if one don't spend the time to see what they was dealt by the chain and even then how do you differentiate a honest bluff with a "I know I got you beat with higher 6 kicker etc." I have to agree not looking good but another poker site is getting ready to make a huge splash soon enough which should at least make the field competitive which is clearly good for real bitcoin players.

Also Alan you seem to be involved in a scandal from a few years back "snip"

http://mb.winneronline.com/showthread.html?p=117702&mode=threaded

7 years ago I was in a dispute feel free to contact him we are good friends now. I use my real name and publishing info on my network how about yourself?    I have nothing to hide if I did I for sure wouldn't publish such information when one has the ability to easily and completely be anonymous in the bitcoin industry. I would hate to see your closet but on a honest note your attitude and childish behaviors are comical. You going to shoot up a mall or something next? GROW UP

[aksplace]

What about us AKsplace? I see we are not yet rated?

We are provably fair. We have a perfect track record of paying out all our players. We have had several big winners/payouts that proof our liquidity. We are a real, incorporated business.

Indeed we are only about 75+ sites away from having almost all of the reviews done. I'm sorry Addi I do appreciate the patience really do as I promise you your on the schedule and soon. I agree this would be a good time to possibly start on it instead of pulling wieners out and throwing on the table like bit777 wants to do on a regular basis.

[markjamrobin]

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We all know you are a good casino, and those reviews are ridiculous, but using expletives towards others is not the best way to go about solving you're problems. It makes you look immature, not reliable.

[bit777]

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We all know you are a good casino, and those reviews are ridiculous, but using expletives towards others is not the best way to go about solving you're problems. It makes you look immature, not reliable.

If noone speaks up when there is a clear wrongdoing and corruption, nothing will ever change.

[aksplace]

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We all know you are a good casino, and those reviews are ridiculous, but using expletives towards others is not the best way to go about solving you're problems. It makes you look immature, not reliable.

If noone speaks up when there is a clear wrongdoing and corruption, nothing will ever change.

The only one doing wrongdoing is the child on the other end supposedly calling out people on an anonymous bitcoin forum. Are you going to publish clients information that use bit777 if they file a complaint? That is another deep concern within the company now. Oh BTW your rating just recently changed today let me know when you want to act professional from a business and customer service perspective. 5 unique bitcoin gambling companies have already bid on this months monthly auction with 2 other companies in contact with me considering bidding. if you put your ego aside and worked on you and the companies faults you would probably be pleasantly surprised on the upgrades you would receive. We don't need to "corrupt" anyone conversions clearly speak for themselves pretty cut and dry. And all your doing is making yourself look like a douche bag that my friend you can take to the bank

BTW I was told to let you folks bury yourself I'm done with the conversation enjoy your rant.

[DiamondCardz]

Okay this honestly seems quite bullshit. Don't put bias in your reviews. Paying sites should not have higher ratings. Non-paying sites should not have low ratings.

[bit777]

It only took 3 screenshots of your own actions in the open public to push your biased scoring even further. How is that not corrupted behavior?

[aksplace]

Okay this honestly seems quite bullshit. Don't put bias in your reviews. Paying sites should not have higher ratings. Non-paying sites should not have low ratings.

Bitcoin Casino Pro actually has companies ranking better in respected categories that are not sponsors than some that are. (Seals With Clubs is a perfect example) One of the main benefits of being an elite sponsor comes with location, location, location.. Ratings are not actually bought. We upgraded a particular casino recently to the A+ mark as they earned it that is the goal of the site.

[aksplace]

It only took 3 screenshots of your own actions in the open public to push your biased scoring even further. How is that not corrupted behavior?

3 pointless and irrelevant screenshots, a made up thread title, a few ghost usernames, a highjacking marketing thread, some tissues, and a tampon. Like I said maybe next month, I think them are the exact words that was said previous month.  

From an adult's perspective this is how I would probably problem solve an "issue" like this. I would identify the issue (if any), try to correct, if not correctable I would ask how we could do better.. If that seemed unreasonable or unattainable I would agree to disagree but maintain professionalism at all time. I don't know what to say it's not difficult we don't want a "sorry" or even want you folks to like us we just demand professionalism and surety casino players are provided an equal and fair handshake while playing.

You claim each and every individual has fair enough lets grow from that I simply brought up the concept of provable gaming as a legitimate way of assuring such and that's only if the casino or dice site runs from the blockchain. Several companies we brought this up to actually agree and are changing the entire provable odds coding to provide such but you cannot expect us to turn a cheek when a company wants to play bully on the block.

[bit777]

We do offer provably fair and verifiable gaming on both websites, but this is not the issue we are discussing here. Your actions on the published screenshots is what we are discussing.

[aksplace]

We do offer provably fair and verifiable gaming on both websites, but this is not the issue we are discussing here. Your actions on the published screenshots is what we are discussing.

And what are these actions? We all seem to be missing the "smoking gun".. I'm assuming you think ratings are paid for but generally that is not the case and nothing in that 2nd image proves that. I can only think of one circumstance in which being a sponsor could affect ratings and that is if they are on the border line in regards to financial security and commitment. If a company is going to pay 12 BTC + a year and allow us to mediate any disputes we tend to favor these companies so yes that is indeed true and is highly probable they would get that slight bump from A to A+ etc.

I just ask you to meet me half way shoot me a pm when you feel like it and lets get your rating where you feel it should be. There is no perfect system and I can think of like 10 websites that offer similar ratings and guidelines and always up for suggestions on approving the "rating code guidelines"

[bit365]

We were downgraded to D+ for having slow payouts for one day out of our ~8 months of operation. If I didn't care less I would actually complain. Either way I agree with OP that the grades are ridiculously skewed.

[bit777]

And all your doing is making yourself look like a douche bag that my friend you can take to the bank

BTW I was told to let you folks bury yourself I'm done with the conversation enjoy your rant.

You do seem to have some hot temper Alan.