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Author Topic: [Preview] Smelter - GPU miner for WhirlpoolX (Vanillacoin)  (Read 127176 times)
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October 15, 2013, 06:30:48 PM
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Crashes after about 20-30 seconds for me.
Next version will come with debug log writer, I was too lazy to implement it properly in the first version Smiley

Of course I gave you bad advice. Good one is way out of your price range.
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October 15, 2013, 06:47:30 PM
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Don't do it, NVidia is not supported anyway. (I'd better update the first post)
Any chance of a quick and dirty fix?
No Sad
I work now on Primecoin miner. With all respect to mtrtl, the release of his reaper-prime was a fiasco. When my miner will be ready (let's hope it will:)), I'm going to release it to the public and get some profit. Apparently, taking preorders or donations is a wrong way, and this Quark miner was created to test waters with profit-splitting scheme (and also give miner host some real-world testing). There is some copy-protection embedded in precompiled kernel and I cannot implement it for NVidia cards without actual hardware in my hands. So no, don't expect NVidia support soon Sad

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October 15, 2013, 06:59:13 PM
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Would prefer a finished Quark miner with pool support, before getting another new miner...
At 12.5% fee, you should get the cash to buy a mid-range NVIDIA card in no time at all.
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October 15, 2013, 07:03:21 PM
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Runs fine and fast for 15 minutes on 7970, but 0 blocks for me and 0 payout for the author.
Please add pool support.
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October 15, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
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Runs fine and fast for 15 minutes on 7970, but 0 blocks for me and 0 payout for the author.
Please add pool support.
I have plans to implement pool/miner combo, but don't expect it soon, the progress is very slow...

Of course I gave you bad advice. Good one is way out of your price range.
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October 15, 2013, 07:15:17 PM
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This could be really good for the coin, or really really bad

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October 15, 2013, 07:31:23 PM
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This should help the coins...xpm needs this as well.
Props for making this op.
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October 15, 2013, 08:16:10 PM
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Right now it produces almost equal hash rate on my CPU and GPU. I am still doing CPU mining to avoid the royalty. However, as it is just a preview, I think there is still great potential to improve this miner.
I personally like open-source miners, and in this way more people can be involved to improve this miner further. The author can still accept donations and offer early access to donors, like what the author of XPM GPU miner did.
Even though right now the price of Quark is cheap, but I believe it has great potential. The GPU miner will not kill it; rather, it helps promote this coin and discourage botnet miners.
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October 16, 2013, 08:08:57 AM
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The author can still accept donations and offer early access to donors, like what the author of XPM GPU miner did.

With profit splitting miner I'm getting my reward at the same moment as the owner of hardware. I'd be happy to take preorders/grants/donations in advance, but it's really, really bad idea. Just take a look here:

What happened to mtrlt? Did he just scam us of 75 BTC?
What happened to mtrlt?: A continuing story
[XPM] mtrlt Primecoin OCL GPU Miner, Communication problem Huh
WARNING suspicious behavior with mtrlt
I'm sorry mtrlt XPM GPU miners but...
How much money has mtrlt made from the Primecoin GPU Miner?
Open Discussion for mtrlt's:"[XPM] Working on a GPU miner for Primecoin"
[POLL] Opinions about the Primecoin GPU Miner

Of course I gave you bad advice. Good one is way out of your price range.
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October 16, 2013, 01:55:08 PM
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The author can still accept donations and offer early access to donors, like what the author of XPM GPU miner did.

With profit splitting miner I'm getting my reward at the same moment as the owner of hardware. I'd be happy to take preorders/grants/donations in advance, but it's really, really bad idea. Just take a look here:

What happened to mtrlt? Did he just scam us of 75 BTC?
What happened to mtrlt?: A continuing story
[XPM] mtrlt Primecoin OCL GPU Miner, Communication problem Huh
WARNING suspicious behavior with mtrlt
I'm sorry mtrlt XPM GPU miners but...
How much money has mtrlt made from the Primecoin GPU Miner?
Open Discussion for mtrlt's:"[XPM] Working on a GPU miner for Primecoin"
[POLL] Opinions about the Primecoin GPU Miner


I think it's fine as long as the fee isn't too big and it's clearly stated and proven in the source code...Problem is, yeah, sharing the source code would make this pointless.
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October 16, 2013, 02:16:16 PM
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I think the profit sharing scheme makes sense. If the results are good and people like to use it, they naturally pay for it. If you try it a bit and don't like the results, you don't need to pay for it. Payment scales with the software's productivity.

(I'd also like to mention my interest in an Nvidia version.)

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October 16, 2013, 05:23:21 PM
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With profit splitting miner I'm getting my reward at the same moment as the owner of hardware.

I think it's fine as long as the fee isn't too big and it's clearly stated and proven in the source code...Problem is, yeah, sharing the source code would make this pointless.
Well, Smelter can be audited even without source code. There is no extra network connections, all generated blocks can be seen in the block explorer, wallet debug log can be examined. Good idea would be to run it in restricted environment with empty wallet without any funds.

Of course I gave you bad advice. Good one is way out of your price range.
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October 16, 2013, 06:35:59 PM
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With profit splitting miner I'm getting my reward at the same moment as the owner of hardware.

I think it's fine as long as the fee isn't too big and it's clearly stated and proven in the source code...Problem is, yeah, sharing the source code would make this pointless.
Well, Smelter can be audited even without source code. There is no extra network connections, all generated blocks can be seen in the block explorer, wallet debug log can be examined. Good idea would be to run it in restricted environment with empty wallet without any funds.

Right, good call...at least for solo mining it should be easy to monitor it.
I'll give it a shot as soon as I get a proper gpu again mate.
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October 16, 2013, 09:43:12 PM
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Im only getting 800kh/s on my 7870, any way you can run this on muliple card on the same machine?

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October 16, 2013, 11:24:30 PM
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Working here so far, just 1.05MH/s thou (7950) tomorrow morning we'll see if it has generated a block Smiley
If yes +1,
if no, waiting for adjustable intensity and +0.5  Tongue
E:And we have a block! All we need now is adjustable intensity Wink

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October 17, 2013, 01:41:44 PM
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Working here so far, just 1.05MH/s thou (7950) tomorrow morning we'll see if it has generated a block Smiley
If yes +1,
if no, waiting for adjustable intensity and +0.5  Tongue
E:And we have a block! All we need now is adjustable intensity Wink


What CPU miner did you using?

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October 17, 2013, 04:03:53 PM
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minerd_qv2.2_sse4, found if from somewhere in quarkcoin thread.
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October 17, 2013, 05:21:15 PM
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What is the power drawn by mining with GPU ? I don't think GPU mining makes any sense with this performance.
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October 17, 2013, 06:46:35 PM
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Around 40% of scrypts usage (atleast on my 7950)
[Following data pulled from HWinfo]
Quark: Core 57W Memory 14W Combined 71W
Scrypt: Core 135W Memory 35W Combined 170W

These powers are measured after VRM modules so total card consumption is higher, around 200W in scrypt  and  85W in quark. (Rough approximation with bad multimeter)


Hopefully the miner gets updated to support GCN cards as soon as possible, I'd be more than happy if it would pull 2.5MH/s with 200W power usage, but as performance of 6000-series is great,over 2.5MH/s with 6970, I'm hoping for over 4MH/s when it gets optimized ^^
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October 17, 2013, 07:11:20 PM
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Around 40% of scrypts usage (atleast on my 7950)
[Following data pulled from HWinfo]
Quark: Core 57W Memory 14W Combined 71W
Scrypt: Core 135W Memory 35W Combined 170W

These powers are measured after VRM modules so total card consumption is higher, around 200W in scrypt  and  85W in quark. (Rough approximation with bad multimeter)


Hopefully the miner gets updated to support GCN cards as soon as possible, I'd be more than happy if it would pull 2.5MH/s with 200W power usage, but as performance of 6000-series is great,over 2.5MH/s with 6970, I'm hoping for over 4MH/s when it gets optimized ^^

That would be amazing! Cheesy
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