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October 26, 2013, 09:49:27 PM
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Agreed.  I'm Libertarian myself.  It's just frustrating when I see Bitcoin presented in this way, because most people aren't Libertarian.  They have prejudices.  You don't have to like them, but you need to "play the game", psychologically.  Presenting Bitcoin as some Libertarian, extremist movement frightens most people, whether you believe in that movement or not.  Any PR firm would tell you this.  There are much better, less "scary" ways of presenting Bitcoin on it's own merits.  You need to understand your typical audience your trying to "sell" on Bitcoin, and then adjust your pitch appropriately.  If you think you're not "selling" Bitcoin to people, you're gravely mistaken.  "Selling" is not about being a used car salesman.  It's about people and speaking their language.

That's all.   Grin

Hah!  You fooled me Grin  But you made your point beautifully.

Ahhhh, thank you kind sir.  Cheesy
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October 26, 2013, 09:59:38 PM
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Great video! We're part of the change!
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October 26, 2013, 10:03:22 PM
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because most people aren't Libertarian.  They have prejudices.  

You see the problem? Just wait for them to become Libertarians.

Just as with atheism. Atheism is slowly growing and patience is the only sure way to succeed.

Yes, I'm an atheist too.  Cheesy

Some people believe the "four horseman" of "New Atheism" (Hitchens.. rest in piece, Dawkins, Harris, etc) aren't good "salesman" for atheism, because they tend to openly ridicule religion and invite hostility.  They are, of course, not salesman, but physicists, authors, biologists...

I don't have much of an opinion to share on their approach.  I'm a big fan of Hitchens and Harris, in particular.  Harris is an incredible public speaker.  But I would say that religion and politics are clearly the most contentious subjects you can raise in a "sale".  Both subjects strike at the core of people's ego and essence.  Many people, if not most, are literally 100% invested in their religious/political convictions and no amount of fantastic reasoning by you will ever sway their view.  After all, it's who they are.  Once you've established an immediate connection between your Libertarian views and Bitcoin, they'll dismiss Bitcoin without consideration.  Your other arguments for it's utility will fall on deaf, ignorant ears.

It seems a destined route to failure to try to convince someone of the merits of a position/technology/argument, that isn't purely religious or political in itself, by going down that path.  Now, if you are speaking to a Libertarian majority, that's completely different of course.
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October 26, 2013, 10:11:26 PM
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Nice job!
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October 26, 2013, 10:26:59 PM
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oh please, don't be ridiculous. You didn't pay for those police equipment, the rich and powerful did.
47% of Americans pay net zero tax, and I bet 90%+ of the "occupy/protesters" fall into this category.

How about every other tax in your daily life besides on your 1040's?

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October 26, 2013, 10:27:23 PM
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You are free to create marxcoin if thats what you are into. Bitcoin is and will always be associated with libertarianism/voluntyrism/anarchism.

I disagree, there are a lot of different reasons to like Bitcoins.
But by pushing your political agenda onto it you will scrare people away, before they see them.
You are not helping Bitcoin and your are also not helping people see good liberal ideas.
(I think good ideas can come from all different politcal parties and Bitcoin is a good idea with some liberal properties.)

So please don't spread "Bitcoin will destroy gubbermints!!", because it will help nobody.

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because most people aren't Libertarian.  They have prejudices.  
Or maybe they just have other opinions.

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Many people, if not most, are literally 100% invested in their religious/political convictions and no amount of fantastic reasoning by you will ever sway their view.  After all, it's who they are.  Once you've established an immediate connection between your Libertarian views and Bitcoin, they'll dismiss Bitcoin without consideration.  Your other arguments for it's utility will fall on deaf, ignorant ears.
Exactly, show people that Bitcoin is great, that is most certainly the better way to get people to like some liberal ideas.
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October 26, 2013, 10:30:22 PM
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because most people aren't Libertarian.  They have prejudices.  
Or maybe they just have other opinions.

Let me clarify.

Most people aren't Libertarian.  People have prejudices.
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October 26, 2013, 10:39:18 PM
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It seems a destined route to failure to try to convince someone of the merits of a position/technology/argument, that isn't purely religious or political in itself, by going down that path.  Now, if you are speaking to a Libertarian majority, that's completely different of course.

I'm not trying to convince anyone Smiley
People must convince themselves

I've told some people I like (who I thought are able to comprehend it) about Bitcoin. That is where I stopped. afaik none of them have bought any or did anything with it. One even mocked the whole concept Tongue

I couldn't care less. Now at least there is no reason for them to place guild on me when they find out later they missed a golden opportunity I presented. People are responsible for their own fate Smiley
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October 26, 2013, 10:43:49 PM
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Presenting Bitcoin as some Libertarian, extremist movement frightens most people, whether you believe in that movement or not.  Any PR firm would tell you this.  There are much better, less "scary" ways of presenting Bitcoin on it's own merits.  You need to understand your typical audience your trying to "sell" on Bitcoin, and then adjust your pitch appropriately

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October 26, 2013, 10:57:41 PM
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Jesus... just what we need.  More extremism associated with an innovative, new technology (Bitcoin) that people don't understand.  Great way to gain acceptance from the masses.

Please stop making a revolutionary/Libertarian association with Bitcoin.  I know the intentions are good, but it's not the way to "sell" the technology to people.  It scares normal people away with ease.  Ask any salesman.

EDIT: I say this as an experienced salesman.  This is NOT the way to present Bitcoin to people, to gain acceptance (unless they've already expressed their Libertarian viewpoint to you in private).

I think you're wrong to say that principle applies equally in all situations.

With the timing and the prevailing world trends, John McAfee was right. Bitcoin is gunpowder. I bet individual-rights oriented political types were big gunpowder fans when it became popularised, and gunpowder sort of rules the world, even to this today. Just saying  Cheesy

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October 26, 2013, 11:45:35 PM
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Jesus... just what we need.  More extremism associated with an innovative, new technology (Bitcoin) that people don't understand.  Great way to gain acceptance from the masses.

Please stop making a revolutionary/Libertarian association with Bitcoin.  I know the intentions are good, but it's not the way to "sell" the technology to people.  It scares normal people away with ease.  Ask any salesman.

EDIT: I say this as an experienced salesman.  This is NOT the way to present Bitcoin to people, to gain acceptance (unless they've already expressed their Libertarian viewpoint to you in private).

I think you're wrong to say that principle applies equally in all situations.

With the timing and the prevailing world trends, John McAfee was right. Bitcoin is gunpowder. I bet individual-rights oriented political types were big gunpowder fans when it became popularised, and gunpowder sort of rules the world, even to this today. Just saying  Cheesy

I think what Man Hands was reacting to was the fact that he WANTS bitcoin to spread, and he feels that the video is positioning bitcoin as a solution championed by extremists.  

Coming from a product creation/launch background myself, I agree that the pain points that bitcoin solves are widely experienced.  Hence it deserves to reach an equally wide audience.  That kind of reach requires a positioning of the bitcoin solution in a way that everyday people can communicate to each other as the idea spreads.  

A corollary might be the civil rights movement.  While it was a long process with many punctuating events that made people question their beliefs, the movement didn't truly reach the momentum required for change until Martin Luther King Jr. provided a message and vision that everyone, from both ideological sides, could agree with.

Bitcoin definitely has the power to spread on its own, but everyday I fight people's misconceptions about what its for and what it does.  To that end, I agree with Man Hands.  While there's certainly a place for this type of video, we need more messages that aim to discuss the positive and universal benefits of bitcoin.

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October 27, 2013, 12:28:28 AM
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everyone needs to see this video  Cheesy
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October 27, 2013, 12:58:58 AM
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I gave it a plus on youtube!
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October 27, 2013, 01:07:48 AM
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Jesus... just what we need.  More extremism associated with an innovative, new technology (Bitcoin) that people don't understand.  Great way to gain acceptance from the masses.

Please stop making a revolutionary/Libertarian association with Bitcoin.  I know the intentions are good, but it's not the way to "sell" the technology to people.  It scares normal people away with ease.  Ask any salesman.

EDIT: I say this as an experienced salesman.  This is NOT the way to present Bitcoin to people, to gain acceptance (unless they've already expressed their Libertarian viewpoint to you in private).

I think you're wrong to say that principle applies equally in all situations.

With the timing and the prevailing world trends, John McAfee was right. Bitcoin is gunpowder. I bet individual-rights oriented political types were big gunpowder fans when it became popularised, and gunpowder sort of rules the world, even to this today. Just saying  Cheesy

I think what Man Hands was reacting to was the fact that he WANTS bitcoin to spread, and he feels that the video is positioning bitcoin as a solution championed by extremists.  

Coming from a product creation/launch background myself, I agree that the pain points that bitcoin solves are widely experienced.  Hence it deserves to reach an equally wide audience.  That kind of reach requires a positioning of the bitcoin solution in a way that everyday people can communicate to each other as the idea spreads.  

A corollary might be the civil rights movement.  While it was a long process with many punctuating events that made people question their beliefs, the movement didn't truly reach the momentum required for change until Martin Luther King Jr. provided a message and vision that everyone, from both ideological sides, could agree with.

Bitcoin definitely has the power to spread on its own, but everyday I fight people's misconceptions about what its for and what it does.  To that end, I agree with Man Hands.  While there's certainly a place for this type of video, we need more messages that aim to discuss the positive and universal benefits of bitcoin.

Gunpowder.

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October 27, 2013, 01:11:09 AM
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The US gubermint recent seizure of 1% of the Bitcoins ever minted till this date sure puts that final quote into a new perspective...
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October 27, 2013, 01:24:34 AM
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I think the early days of gunpowder had it's ignorant casualties, people blowing themselves up and such. Get back under your bridge.

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October 27, 2013, 08:11:17 PM
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Can you change the tittle ?

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we need more of this exposure +1 for the commercial.
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