Does ethics count in winning/gambling.

[milewilda]

sometimes it is fun to cheat, as long as you are not harming anyone I don't see any problem with that. like when you are playing a friendly card game at home with a bunch of people you know, it may not even be for money
I have never done it but I have to admit I have thought about doing it.

but when it is fixing games and stuff like that which can harm others and also when it can be considered thievery, then that is it right at all.

All things that have been attained thru cheating isnt really right at all. Even you do make money but deep inside your conscience will really put you in stress.I have already experience or have the chance to cheat but i didnt want to do such thing because i do really like to play on a fair way but we cant really remove for those people who are doing all cost just to make money without minding other players too and wouldnt know on the word ethics.

[el kaka22]

I have never cheated but it is very difficult to cheat if you play in big online or even land-based casinos. I remember doing it as home as @Pursuer says, when I was a kid and was no money involved, but for the sake of winning.

I can understand people up to a point if they try to cheat for huge sums of money. Money drive people crazy.

Sometimes in online gambling, I have always wished I could. Honestly, unless we want to lie to ourselves, these online gambling sites cheat with their acclaimed provably fair platform because I wonder I would ever end up having 23 streaks of losses on a normal day if the house edge did not just program it for me to lose. So in this case, for an online casino, it would be more like a revenge tactics. Nonetheless, it is not even possible.

As much as I would have loved to say screw ethics, I would just be on the neutral side. Ethics is very good, do not get me wrong, and what Captain Smith did was highly unethical, but most times in gambling, with the way house edge have always dealt with us, I am sure almost everyone, most especially in online gambling, would have tried as much as possible to find out how they can cheat the house edge. I have been there, but at the end, they are always one step ahead anyway.

[CodyAlfaridzi]

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

Winning is important but cheating your way to winning makes your winning less valuable. Not all gamblers are ethical though, ethics has more to do with someone personality, nothing else. I always try to keep my integrity and ethics in every activity, from competition to even gambling.

[Betwrong]

I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

To have a possibility to cheat in on-line gambling you have to be a top notch hacker in the first place and I'm not the one so I've never contemplated the idea. Hopefully you don't consider bluffing in poker to be cheating because that's what I do all the time.

Actually I'm glad that there come times when it doesn't matter whether you want to cheat or you don't, you just can't do that because of the architecture and algorithms of the game. Bitcoin is a good example of that.

[Indrawan77]

I think ethics is very important and needed in gambling, but most of the  people dont care about the ethics when come to the money problem, people willing to do everything to get the money, for me winning with honest makes me proud, and if you asked me to gamble with cheating, I will refuse becauae I am afraid to get caught and embarrassed to be known as cheater

[Hazaki]

I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

Gambling is based on luck and luck only , speculations might be a bit helpful but it's up to the luck for at least 90% to decide whether if we loose or don't .
As for manipulated results , who knows ? Maybe luck will turn things around and maybe you got the opposite of what'll happen from your source ? There is no cheating when the possible outcome is not fully controllable .
I did once bet on a manipulated game but i didn't really place a lot of money on that bet since i didn't think such things existed , yet it happened (i'm still not sure it was really manipulated or it was luck ).
Gamblers certainly have no code ,but anyone gambling is doing it for a sole purpose which is getting profits . Some games/casinos are already cheating and manipulating the machines for their favor's , so why not make some dirty moves ourselves ?
And it won't even be eye for an eye compared to what the exorbitant amounts of money they are stealing out of gamblers's pockets ..

[Caladonian]

I don't think we can relate cheating in sports to cheating in gambling. In sports the player can be the one cheating or be bribed at to intentionally lose the game, but in gambling cheating is a harder thing to do as the casino or the site always have the edge. Cheating here sometimes involves a lot of people or lookouts for the cards or if it is a machine then you need some kind of program to hack into their system. Not to mention that cheating inside a casino is considered as a crime compared to cheating in a sport which will only result into fines and penalties, or a permanent ban as its worst penalty.

Good point, there's difference between the actual players who deal with game fixing to cheat and allow the game to lose from the system or some sort
of dishonest activity inside the casino house, both is unethical but we can't deny the fact that most of the gamblers who really engaged with this activity
are really doing everything just to earn money, to the point that they will try every resources even try to cheat just to win.

[MinerHQ]

I don't think we can relate cheating in sports to cheating in gambling. In sports the player can be the one cheating or be bribed at to intentionally lose the game, but in gambling cheating is a harder thing to do as the casino or the site always have the edge. Cheating here sometimes involves a lot of people or lookouts for the cards or if it is a machine then you need some kind of program to hack into their system. Not to mention that cheating inside a casino is considered as a crime compared to cheating in a sport which will only result into fines and penalties, or a permanent ban as its worst penalty.

Good point, there's difference between the actual players who deal with game fixing to cheat and allow the game to lose from the system or some sort
of dishonest activity inside the casino house, both is unethical but we can't deny the fact that most of the gamblers who really engaged with this activity
are really doing everything just to earn money, to the point that they will try every resources even try to cheat just to win.

Cheating is a cheating whether it is done in gambling or sports or in any other places. Punishments may be different because of the rules but the intention is same they want to win so they are cheating. Those players cheated the whole country because of their unethical behaviour.

[buwaytress]

I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

No I wasn't actually, thanks for alerting though. Just read up on it. I'm not much of a sportsperson myself, though I played football/street football every day for many, many years (til I got old heh heh) and nothing got to me more than cheaters... divers, those unsportsmanlike fouls. I never learnt how to even roll on the ground if I fell, instinctively my mind was just on the ball and on the game. Match fixing is on another level, since that's greed and not a "winning at all cost" strategy.

I have hussled plenty though when gambling cards! My favourite is to play at the same table with an "assistant" who helps me look at my cards and "advises" and "accidentally giving me away". Always among friends, and always for the banter, but sometimes getting the desired result. I'm not sure that qualifies as cheating, especially when playing poker and they all know I do that.

There's always a code with gamblers. Murky as mud, blurry as hell. But there's definitely a code.

[audaciousbeing]

I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

Reading the news about the cricketers sends a message and that is if you must win, win according to the rules. They have just successfully ended their careers because of their greed. In societies where there are rules and high ethical values, you are allowed to break the rule, but when caught, the hammer will hit very hard which has happened to those individuals.

For us the gamblers, I think ethics should be about those making the platforms available. For someone like me who is only interested in soccer form of gambling, I don't know any ethics I have to comply with than to place my bet and wait. But for the gambling site that are quick to devise several means to rip me off should be the one sticking to ethical codes.

[JL421]

Ethics always matters i wouldn't make any move just for the sake of earning more money because this would show that how narrow minded i am and what all i could just for earning that little extra funds , what they did was really bad instead they could have practiced more and improve their performance as cheating is never a solution to problems

[Aikidoka]

In my opinion, cheating is fun because you manage to outsmart your opponent without him realizing. However, sometimes, it is sad to cheat against an opponent who is trying his best to win and having fun on the game. I really find it bad to cheat and perhaps that is related to my ethical background. I cheat when it depends on the opponent. If he is a good guy, I will not. If he is malicious, I will try to outsmart him.

[BlockEye]

In my opinion, cheating is fun because you manage to outsmart your opponent without him realizing. However, sometimes, it is sad to cheat against an opponent who is trying his best to win and having fun on the game. I really find it bad to cheat and perhaps that is related to my ethical background. I cheat when it depends on the opponent. If he is a good guy, I will not. If he is malicious, I will try to outsmart him.

We should be fair in everything even in gambling, ethics will reflect our identity, tho there are really bastards that don't even know what their doing so dont try to follow them at least have the guts to be smart enough to do what is right.

[Vannie12]

As of my understanding, ethics applied in gambling is how you play by the rules with a positive attitude or manner and I think it is admirable that someone plays with ethics. Cheating is not much of an issue in gambling and I think it adds up the fun and makes you feel the game and I do not see anything wrong about cheating some time. I think let us just view ethics as being a sport if someone or you happen to lose in a game, you still play by the rules and never start a fight when losing.

[serjent05]

I never think of cheating my way to win in gambling.  I always believe that playing fair is a must for a player. This may not count as a winning when it comes to money, but the feeling of assurance that there will be no problem if the time comes we have to withdraw a huge amount of money if we hit a huge price.  Unlike, if we cheat and win, there will be lots of what if and we troubled ourselves instead of enjoying the winnings.

[Loveydovey04]

sometimes it is fun to cheat, as long as you are not harming anyone I don't see any problem with that. like when you are playing a friendly card game at home with a bunch of people you know, it may not even be for money
I have never done it but I have to admit I have thought about doing it.

but when it is fixing games and stuff like that which can harm others and also when it can be considered thievery, then that is it right at all.

When it comes to gamblng cheating is not fun and it is not harmless as you say it is. It maybe fun for you but it is unfair for your opponents and i am sure if it happens to you you will not like it as well. Anything that we dont like done to us is not fun.

[Wendigo]

I am not a sportsman, not by a long shot. I am a recreational gambler who bets for fun. Gambling is like a hobby to me with the added perk of winning some cash here and there. However, there are very competitive people out there, professional athletes and even amateurs and hobbyists, for whom winning is everything. Would you, for example, bet on a fixed match knowing you are going to defraud the sportsbook? Or your ethics and conscience wouldn't let you do it? Surely, free money could be a very strong factor for persuasion. Winning + winning money at that is a very strong combination.

[LuanX3]

I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

Insider knowledge that the game is rigged is probably hard to acquire and you'll likely spend a lot of money to get it or make it happen, so probably it is just a business decision for some and ethically wrong for many. I would say that it would be hard for anyone to do this, there would be little chances that a lot of people will be in on the scheme. Though if I had the chance, I would avoid the game probably.

[ethereumhunter]

I never cheat on any gambling games, but sometimes I used the only strategy and I think it's not cheating. I think even if I cheat, my chances to win the games is the same, I will only get lost the money. so whenever I play the games, cheat or not cheat, the result is the most time in the games, I only get lost. but I don't think that if we cheat the games, we can win the games. maybe it will work for one or two times but the next, I am sure that the owner will know.

[Diced90]

When it comes to sport its basically about win or lose, and these sports men and women will do anything to make this happen for financial benefits or pride but the sad part about sports is not everyone is doing an honest job and that's why punishments have put should should anyone break the rules, Thats why personal discipline and good sportsmanship is needed to uphold good sports ethics.