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October 07, 2021, 06:30:33 PM |
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People or ignore my posts about freebitc bets ,or say that i dont understand ,that is a different method, if many players bet in the favourit the odd drowp hard but the others game odds up .
lets see this example
in 4 hours game soccer
Uruguay - Colombia (MOSTLY BOOKMAKERS AROUND ) 2.03 , 3.07 . 4.40
Freebitc - 1.65 , 2.31 , 2.77
Most people bet in Uruguay win, so odds droop hard (bookie 2.03 to 1.63 in freebitc ) ,but the other odds are drowned too
so i ask, with the maximun respct for Freebitco , that is totally honest.
Why bet here ? if any place , evem in underdog, we lost so many % , in dogs ou fav or draw.
why the normal user dont bet in a sportbook? why freebit dont change this? who is betting in this terms?
this is the same for all games .
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October 07, 2021, 06:34:55 PM |
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People or ignore my posts about freebitc bets ,or say that i dont understand ,that is a different method, if many players bet in the favourit the odd drowp hard but the others game odds up .
lets see this example
in 4 hours game soccer
Uruguay - Colombia (MOSTLY BOOKMAKERS AROUND ) 2.03 , 3.07 . 4.40
Freebitc - 1.65 , 2.31 , 2.77
Most people bet in Uruguay win, so odds droop hard (bookie 2.03 to 1.63 in freebitc ) ,but the other odds are drowned too
so i ask, with the maximun respct for Freebitco , that is totally honest.
Why bet here ? if any place , evem in underdog, we lost so many % , in dogs ou fav or draw.
why the normal user dont bet in a sportbook? why freebit dont change this? who is betting in this terms?
this is the same for all games .
You dont bet against a bookie, you bet against the players that bet the other result. You shouldnt see this site as an alternative so ANY bookie, cause its not.
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October 07, 2021, 09:52:27 PM |
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You are nuts
Sigh, why do you have to insult me for loving a site. Even though you love the site you shouldn't harm your physical and mental health for it. It's important for our body and mind to sleep for many consecutive hours without interruptions and you shouldn't break this cycle. You can make freebitco.in much more useful and effective if you deposit some money instead of using the faucet all day long, as the interest generated will surpass the income from claims you have right now. Furthermore, with a decent premium FUN package you will get a nice number of lottery tickets from wheel too, if that is what you are looking for. This way you don't have to compromise your rest and another daily activities while still loving the site.
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October 07, 2021, 11:56:17 PM Last edit: October 08, 2021, 12:42:31 AM by STT |
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I must say, this hi lo game at this site is beyond any winning %.
1.01 odds with 94% win chance and in 1000 spins I have 150 losses. Thats just insane.
Might be possible to calculate the likelyhood of such an outcome. It should be rare but Im not certain it would require extreme improbability like say the rolex win from 1 wheel spin is really not happening any time normally. Will look out for a good odds calc site, sure Ive seen one before.
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October 08, 2021, 12:07:52 AM Last edit: October 08, 2021, 05:48:40 AM by TheQuin |
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People or ignore my posts about freebitc bets ,or say that i dont understand ,that is a different method, if many players bet in the favourit the odd drowp hard but the others game odds up .
That's exactly how it works because it's player versus player betting. What other people bet on is the only factor involved in deciding the odds. Bet on the latest events against other FreeBitco.in users and win a share of the prize pool if you pick the winner!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parimutuel_bettingThis part is just a misunderstanding in the way the information is displayed.Uruguay - Colombia (MOSTLY BOOKMAKERS AROUND ) 2.03 , 3.07 . 4.40
Freebitc - 1.65 , 2.31 , 2.77
We're using a different system. Using the same system as the bookmaker you quote our odds would be displayed as: 2.65, 3.31, 3.77https://alphasportsbetting.com/betting-tips/post/world-cup-2022-qualifiers-uruguay-vs-colombia-prediction-and-betting-tips-october-7Ours is like the fractional displayed as a decimal. 27/25=1.08, 11/5=2.2, 3/1=3
So comparing like for like it is: Bookmaker 1.08, 2.20, 3.00 Freebitco.in 1.57, 2.29 2.73Corrected by _DarkStar bellow.
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October 08, 2021, 04:03:21 AM |
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Uruguay - Colombia (MOSTLY BOOKMAKERS AROUND ) 2.03 , 3.07 . 4.40
Freebitc - 1.65 , 2.31 , 2.77
We're using a different system. Using the same system as the bookmaker you quote our odds would be displayed as: 2.65, 3.31, 3.77 Ours is like the fractional displayed as a decimal. 27/25=1.08, 11/5=2.2, 3/1=3 So comparing like for like it is: Bookmaker 1.08, 2.20, 3.00 Freebitco.in 1.57, 2.29 2.73 I'm pretty sure this isn't correct - if Freebitco.in has a bet with 1.65 odds when it expires, and it wins, your wager is multiplied by 1.65 and returned to you, giving you 65% profit. Other sportsbooks' decimal odds work the same way. The actual reason why Freebitco.in seems like they have a very high margin is because of the time weight multiplier - users who bet right when it opens can get twice the profit of someone who bet right before it closed. You might be able to get good odds if you get in early, but once the market is nearly closed there's not much point to betting on Freebitco.in versus another site.
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October 08, 2021, 05:07:14 AM |
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I'm pretty sure this isn't correct - if Freebitco.in has a bet with 1.65 odds when it expires, and it wins, your wager is multiplied by 1.65 and returned to you, giving you 65% profit. Other sportsbooks' decimal odds work the same way.
The actual reason why Freebitco.in seems like they have a very high margin is because of the time weight multiplier - users who bet right when it opens can get twice the profit of someone who bet right before it closed. You might be able to get good odds if you get in early, but once the market is nearly closed there's not much point to betting on Freebitco.in versus another site.
I do take your point that the TWM does have an impact but why is my comparison to fractional odds incorrect? https://alphasportsbetting.com/betting-tips/post/world-cup-2022-qualifiers-uruguay-vs-colombia-prediction-and-betting-tips-october-7Uruguay vs Colombia (October 7) latest betting odds Uruguay to win is priced at 2.08 (+108 American; 27/25 Fractional). A draw is priced at 3.20 (+220; 11/5), while Colombia to win is priced at 4.00 (+300; 3/1).
27/25=1.08, 11/5=2.2, 3/1=3 Bookmaker 1.08, 2.20, 3.00 Freebitco.in 1.57, 2.29 2.73 Or doing it to the American system $100 pays $108, $220, $300.
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October 08, 2021, 05:30:33 AM |
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I'm pretty sure this isn't correct - if Freebitco.in has a bet with 1.65 odds when it expires, and it wins, your wager is multiplied by 1.65 and returned to you, giving you 65% profit. Other sportsbooks' decimal odds work the same way.
The actual reason why Freebitco.in seems like they have a very high margin is because of the time weight multiplier - users who bet right when it opens can get twice the profit of someone who bet right before it closed. You might be able to get good odds if you get in early, but once the market is nearly closed there's not much point to betting on Freebitco.in versus another site.
I do take your point that the TWM does have an impact but why is my comparison to fractional odds incorrect? https://alphasportsbetting.com/betting-tips/post/world-cup-2022-qualifiers-uruguay-vs-colombia-prediction-and-betting-tips-october-7Uruguay vs Colombia (October 7) latest betting odds Uruguay to win is priced at 2.08 (+108 American; 27/25 Fractional). A draw is priced at 3.20 (+220; 11/5), while Colombia to win is priced at 4.00 (+300; 3/1).
27/25=1.08, 11/5=2.2, 3/1=3 Bookmaker 1.08, 2.20, 3.00 Freebitco.in 1.57, 2.29 2.73 Or doing it to the American system $100 pays $108, $220, $300. Fractional purely refers to the profit. 27/25 Fractional means that you'll profit (27/25)*stake if it wins, so it returns 52/25 total. American system also refers to profit, with +108 meaning you'll get $108 in profit for every $100 bet (so your $100 bet would payout $208). Decimal is a multiplier, so 1.08 odds means you'll get $8 in profit for every $100 bet.
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TheQuin
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October 08, 2021, 05:51:43 AM |
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Fractional purely refers to the profit. 27/25 Fractional means that you'll profit (27/25)*stake if it wins, so it returns 52/25 total. American system also refers to profit, with +108 meaning you'll get $108 in profit for every $100 bet (so your $100 bet would payout $208). Decimal is a multiplier, so 1.08 odds means you'll get $8 in profit for every $100 bet.
Thanks for clearing that up. I was brought up with fractional betting in the UK but it's been over 30 years since I ventured into a bookmaker or went to a racecourse. I had completely forgotten that the stake is returned in addition to the quoted odds.
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October 08, 2021, 09:53:25 AM |
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if the account has no activity then the balance must be 0. Also, account balances don't represent wallets. There can't be a separate wallet for each account that gets updated every time your balance changes. We have a deposit wallet, cold wallet and 2 hot wallets that withdrawals are paid from. All deposits above 30,000 Sats (what we deem to be dust level) are automatically consolidated into the other wallets when transaction fees are low enough to mean that we don't have to pay more than 0.6% of their value to move them.
Yet the question remains, if I deposit a thousand dollars, then never come back here, for years, would my account still be seen as inactive, since I do not gamble or claim anything, I just deposited a thousand and left. In that case what happens to that thousand dollars? Having an account with very tiny amount like few thousand satoshi at best and having zero amounts both allow you to delete the inactive accounts because nobody would become checking and asking for their money since there is none. However if a person had money here, and then they stopped playing here, then it would be weird to come back here 5 years later asking for their coin. After all when you first started a thousand dollars would mean like 10 bitcoins, and now that same 10 bitcoins is more than 500k, that dude could have been here at the early day, get 10 bitcoins from here, leave, and come back in 2021 and ask for it, what happens then?
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October 08, 2021, 10:40:24 AM |
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100k is a good amount. You don't want to encourage more freeroll bots by reducing the freerolls requirements to 10k only.
That's the main problem at the moment. The increased value of RP has encouraged a huge increase in bots abusing the RP bonuses. At today's prices, they are stealing $0.50 cents a day per account and it only takes a little over3 months to get to a payout of $50. We've improved the bot detection a lot but with an incentive that large, it's like play Whac-A-Mole for me. Can't imagine what it's like for you. I did chat moderation once and it gave me nightmares (literally, I went to bed and dreamt of working the whole night catching and banning bots) and those were just bots fishing for tiny amounts of rain that didn't even come to anything much but 100 bots I suppose could catch a few dollars a day. The worst is they may also win lottery, taking away our chances at hitting it.
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October 08, 2021, 12:59:32 PM |
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Formula 1 Betting - Turkish Grand PrixIt has been an exciting season at the top of the leaderboard with Verstappen and Hamilton trading places often, hoping to get one up on the other at every race. The latest instalment in this battle flags off on Sunday in Turkey. With only 7 races to go, who'll come out on top? Predict the outcome of the Turkish Grand Prix and win BTC! Betting expires before qualifying starts on 9th October. Notable Odds: 1.68 on Verstappen to Win, 2.00 on Hamilton to Win, 12.45 on Bottas to Win, 14.53 on Sergio Perez to Win, 28.02 on Norris to Win.
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October 08, 2021, 03:28:03 PM |
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The heck? so you sacrificed hours of sleep just to claim few cents from this site for months? sounds dumb to me. If you have 1 account thats not worth it at all but its different story if are abusing it by claiming with multiple account. Totally seems normal if you have done that for few days but months though, thats sick.
It's like eating instant noodles just to save up on other expenses. Sounds cost-effective but bad for your health in the long run. To each his own I guess. I have never seen a perfect example for any scenario than this one. Lol. Damaging health just to save pennies is definitely not worth the efforts at all. What if the person damages his health so much that he has to be hospitalized and then the cost of the hospital bills would be more than 10x times what pennies he saved. In short, absolute foolishness.
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October 08, 2021, 04:00:24 PM |
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Formula 1 Betting - Turkish Grand PrixIt has been an exciting season at the top of the leaderboard with Verstappen and Hamilton trading places often, hoping to get one up on the other at every race. The latest instalment in this battle flags off on Sunday in Turkey. With only 7 races to go, who'll come out on top? Predict the outcome of the Turkish Grand Prix and win BTC! Betting expires before qualifying starts on 9th October. Notable Odds: 1.68 on Verstappen to Win, 2.00 on Hamilton to Win, 12.45 on Bottas to Win, 14.53 on Sergio Perez to Win, 28.02 on Norris to Win. There is quite a lot of value on Bottas to win as on other (standard) bookies the odd for Bottas to win is only 6. Verstappen is the clear favorite but if he crashes than maybe Bottas can take over. Hamilton has got a 10 place grid penalty so he needs a lot of magic to win. So odds for Hamilton to win are too low (@2).
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October 08, 2021, 04:03:55 PM |
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That's the main problem at the moment. The increased value of RP has encouraged a huge increase in bots abusing the RP bonuses. At today's prices, they are stealing $0.50 cents a day per account and it only takes a little over3 months to get to a payout of $50. We've improved the bot detection a lot but with an incentive that large, it's like play Whac-A-Mole for me.
Wetsuit gave you tremendous power, tell me, have you ever thought of using it for selfish purposes? (Robbery of users). E-mail and forum are completely under your control, there is no way to complain directly without you. Does he absolutely trust you? You do not "control" a forum topic, nobody does, we all have accounts here and we all come here and can post, like I am posting now, and everyone before me, none of us owned it. Wetsuit does have an account here and I have chatted with him plenty of times before, both on the topic and also on PM's as well, this was maybe 5+ years ago but I did, I talked about the visitor numbers they had back in the day and even then it was something insane, like 50k+ visitors or something (sorry it has been 5+ years, I do not remember exact number but it was super high even on early days). So, if wetsuit wants to, he could come here and chat as well, thequin doesn't control any powers. Secondly why would anyone want to steal in his shoes? I mean if I was in thequins shoes, I would not even imagine stealing, like what the hell? He has a great job with one of the best companies in the entire world, the amount of money freebitco.in makes is insane and thequin is the staff, like literally THE staff for it, why would he even consider stealing?
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October 08, 2021, 05:02:28 PM |
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However if a person had money here, and then they stopped playing here, then it would be weird to come back here 5 years later asking for their coin. After all when you first started a thousand dollars would mean like 10 bitcoins, and now that same 10 bitcoins is more than 500k, that dude could have been here at the early day, get 10 bitcoins from here, leave, and come back in 2021 and ask for it, what happens then?
If they have the account details they get the account use, thats the pay off for choosing a site which was long term successful because the majority of sites werent. Not this site but elsewhere I left a balance on a big casino site from 2014 till 2018 think it was and I came back and went opps, this has a balance on it and I didnt think it had. I only realized because they ran a promotion and I had reason to come back and make bets etc. so I found it was really not empty and the price had risen massively during that time so I withdrew. Should have just left it there now tbh but generally its not a bad idea to retain a long term balance anyway is the lesson though everything has risk; the oldest sites generally shouldnt be doubted half as much as people seem to. It costs alot of money to get a long term reputation and accumulate a regular crowd of bettors. If the site is good, its good and you get lucky in that respect. Maybe it should be in the thread title or site banner the year first established, like grand old companies have on their front door :p Btw I did the same thing with coinbase, I had to pay for some item from a computer shop in 2014 and had to do it twice because one time it cleared too late to be accepted so I forgot about it; I think the money took 6 days to be returned to me. Fiddly system anyhow it was to my advantage after years luckily. Predict the outcome of the Turkish Grand Prix and win BTC! Betting expires before qualifying starts on 9th October.
Notable Odds: 1.68 on Verstappen to Win, 2.00 on Hamilton to Win, 12.45 on Bottas to Win, 14.53 on Sergio Perez to Win, 28.02 on Norris to Win. Hamilton starts with a 10 place disadvantage no matter how he qualifies as he had to replace his engine again. The 4th failure and necessary replacement of an engine is a penalty apparently, he would be back of grid but it was purely the engine core. My take is he has the skill to weave his way through the pack anyway, could be that nice odds are available because of this so Im interested. 1st corner is chaos so I doubt it occurs that fast, but presuming he has the patience and endurance I think he can regain and negate the disadvantage.
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October 08, 2021, 06:22:35 PM |
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For me in a track like Turkey when we know Hamilton will start behind in the grid for penalty and the odd being 2.00 is not very inviting while Verstappen which has no penalty in sight has a better odd for me at 1.68 to win.The F1 Championship season is wide open this year with only just 7 races to go including the one in this weekend.Also I would give a try to Norris to win at 28 odd with very little money just to add to the fun of watching the race as I am a McLaren fan.
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I'm quite lucky with Wheel of Fortune spins in recent days. Just in 2 days I won over 10 000 lottery tickets: I already have accumulated not bad number of tickets for this round and I still have 2 days to get some more. Maybe it will bring me luck finally...
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October 08, 2021, 08:33:21 PM |
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I'm quite lucky with Wheel of Fortune spins in recent days. Just in 2 days I won over 10 000 lottery tickets: I already have accumulated not bad number of tickets for this round and I still have 2 days to get some more. Maybe it will bring me luck finally... Nice! I won many tickets as well, but didn't have the luck winning any prizes! So I decided to save my WoF spins, as I mentioned earlier... In the last months, all my coins are in FUN, I stopped playing multi and placing bets, I have more fun in the FUN casino! That sounds a bit funny, but they have some cool games and I have a nice winning streak, I made some profit from each deposit! I guess that affects me to return every time!
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October 08, 2021, 10:33:27 PM |
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Nice! I won many tickets as well, but didn't have the luck winning any prizes! So I decided to save my WoF spins, as I mentioned earlier... Interesting strategy. This way you can concentrate all your spins in a single round to accumulate most tickets as possible increasing your winning chances at the lottery. Maybe among so many spins you can also hit some Lambo tickets and who knows, maybe an Iphone or rolex. If you don't bother, and sorry if I'm being nosy, but could you share the results from these spins once you decide to use them all at once? That would be a nice public experiment.
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