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Congrats on that, giant amounts of luck required to just get the 2nd. You are of course still owed by rights of many spins undertaken the 1st prize also With the Fun tokens I would be tempted to increase to the next tier however I will have to look at how much advantage that would be for me, only after 90 or 180 days does it increase. I did sell some at higher prices, I'll add up whats the gap etc. Its not as tempting, there is the 7th burn of Fun Token done recently apparently which should help price in theory but also people are getting more Fun Token yielded after locking it and that represents apparent supply too. Just that by itself would explain price going back to flat and not rising from an old low in this area. Price is an expression of the market its not absolute its squiggy, it can overvalue as well as undervalue and its subjective to say which usually people dont care they just worry about this cash out price. Im not considering selling in this time period so in theory Im not as bothered :p As others said above I already decided to lock the longer period so the interim price is more incidental. BTC is flat and people would say disappointing or even a few its a definite negative trend which I think is off and little over reactive but thats sentiment. This whole year I think it'll be back and forth no easy ground so whatever else I wouldnt be expecting best price in such bad weather tbh.
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@Betwrong, congratulations on the win, although $20 is not a lot, you were still very close to the main prize - and this is the first time I've heard that an additional prize is won - because it definitely did not happen before when I won that prize several times.
What interests me is the fact that you didn't win a single lottery ticket in that roll, but the rules say that you get 2 lottery tickets for each roll - and it doesn't make much sense to me that they canceled that for the biggest prizes?
Maybe disabled it to get RPs instead?
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What interests me is the fact that you didn't win a single lottery ticket in that roll, but the rules say that you get 2 lottery tickets for each roll - and it doesn't make much sense to me that they canceled that for the biggest prizes?
That's because Betwrong has disabled getting lottery tickets. You can go to your profile and check "Disable lottery" option. With doing so, you will get reward points instead of lottery tickets. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F20%2Flott4ab07672592deb28.jpeg&t=665&c=UjMHV5j6jk5lrg)
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Yup, it sounds like you might have gotten yourself into a bit of a mess. When you download software from sketchy or untrustworthy sources, like cracked versions, there's a high chance you've picked up a virus or some other nasty malware. Disabling your antivirus while doing that makes it even riskier. Why would you even take that risk? ~snip~
For the reason that AV blocked him from downloading and installing that infected software, which is actually what such programs do. Anyway, if you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be doing it, because in the end you not only have a direct financial loss, but you unfairly accuse others and waste their time and yours because of your own stupidity. I didn't ask you to write a comment if you don't like it. Because I used that site for several years and someone took bad advantage of my ignorance. The same can happen to you and I didn't use insults for you. You are also wasting your time by sitting here and writing comments about my problem. You are a fool guy moron!!! !
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Did you lock a low amount? I thought you'd have gained if you held tokens for a year and locked them from the spins you get? I can't remember what price I bought mine for now but I think it's roughly about the same balance as what I deposited including if I cashed the reward points.
I have bought 50k FUN tokens a few months ago and locked them for 1 year with 25% APY. Each FUN token price was around 36 satoshi when I bought it. But now the FUN token value is 19 satoshi. The reward of the WOF spins won't be enough to recover the amount which I have lost for FUN/BTC pair drop until now. I think that the FUN/BTC pair will decrease more in the upcoming months.
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Did you lock a low amount? I thought you'd have gained if you held tokens for a year and locked them from the spins you get? I can't remember what price I bought mine for now but I think it's roughly about the same balance as what I deposited including if I cashed the reward points.
I have bought 50k FUN tokens a few months ago and locked them for 1 year with 25% APY. Each FUN token price was around 36 satoshi when I bought it. But now the FUN token value is 19 satoshi. The reward of the WOF spins won't be enough to recover the amount which I have lost for FUN/BTC pair drop until now. I think that the FUN/BTC pair will decrease more in the upcoming months. I think you should be able to recover the dropped % margin through WOF. You should be able to spin good amount of wheel of fortune considering you are having 10WOF per day. By the time of maturity you would have spun around 3650 wheels which are surely enough to get you hundred thousand sats and RP. This can easily happen considering the past experiences of the fellow members. I saw someone rolling 1000 spins and he was able to collect that much. This already made us investment into profits. Try your luck by collecting those spins and then rolling them all at once. I hope you won’t regret it and also you could always continue to hold them next year as well.
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Did you lock a low amount? I thought you'd have gained if you held tokens for a year and locked them from the spins you get? I can't remember what price I bought mine for now but I think it's roughly about the same balance as what I deposited including if I cashed the reward points.
I have bought 50k FUN tokens a few months ago and locked them for 1 year with 25% APY. Each FUN token price was around 36 satoshi when I bought it. But now the FUN token value is 19 satoshi. The reward of the WOF spins won't be enough to recover the amount which I have lost for FUN/BTC pair drop until now. I think that the FUN/BTC pair will decrease more in the upcoming months. That is a risk which is always associated with any investment,trading any person does,I bought most of my FUN which was near 75.000 with 28 Satoshi and I sold all of them when they were 39 Satoshi so I made quite some good money by trading them and now I only have 7000,but I am buying with all the money that I get daily from WoF and free rolls plus referrals that click sometimes now and then and buy FUN at 19 Satoshi which is a bargain.I am in for the long run and I know in the next bull run the FUN token will most likely go back to 100 Satoshi each,so patience is the virtue of the winner and also my advice to you.
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I have bought 50k FUN tokens a few months ago and locked them for 1 year with 25% APY. Each FUN token price was around 36 satoshi when I bought it. But now the FUN token value is 19 satoshi. The reward of the WOF spins won't be enough to recover the amount which I have lost for FUN/BTC pair drop until now. I think that the FUN/BTC pair will decrease more in the upcoming months.
If you think it's an useful and cool token with good fundamentals, and you thought 36 sats were a good price, surely you are buying them with nearly 50% discount to recover more easily. Because since they are locked, only thing you could do is DCA more of them until price recovers, unless that decrease you are predicting is going to be radical and you think it won't.
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which I have lost You have not lost, thats not how it works lol The market has to offer a price no matter what, that does not mean its accurate and correct in entirety. If the asset is being used and yes the main use of the token is on the website so you are using it; thats not a loss its a use. Pricing is something else, that logic can apply to every asset pretty much but instead its super common for people just to gamble on prices fair enough thats the thinking of this customer base. However in this particular case it is a working asset, some may dislike/like really dislike all of crypto again fine but I have to point out the difference I wouldn't encourage anyone to buy too much or what they cannot use but a fair balanced buy vs your use of the site thats fine imo. Ditto many asset types try to stay balanced, the world is getting more volatile imo. You dont have a loss till you sell at the bad price, dont enter into a situation where you must do so and same goes for BTC; its bad for all of us if people speculate and bet the price goes up using borrowed cash then BTC prices goes into a rollercoaster plunge (every asset under influence of leverage will do that in the end). Pretty much that happens every time, I'm over feeling sick its normal now crypto has these swings be chill :p
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Maybe disabled it to get RPs instead?
That's because Betwrong has disabled getting lottery tickets. You can go to your profile and check "Disable lottery" option. With doing so, you will get reward points instead of lottery tickets. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F20%2Flott4ab07672592deb28.jpeg&t=665&c=UjMHV5j6jk5lrg) Thanks for the explanation, I really didn't know that option existed, and maybe I could use it myself sometimes - of course if it is possible to turn on/off the option whenever you want. Although I have been a user since 2014 or 2015, it seems that I will have to study all the options a little more ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Guys look at the email I got the other day from Freebitco.in ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F20%2FScreenshot-from-2023-05-20-14-19-404e99ec3a0a7e1bb7.png&t=665&c=wTPeQ8wsKbl_gg) And yes, it's because I did win the 2nd highest prize of $20 at FreeBitco.in: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F20%2FScreenshot-from-2023-05-17-20-28-006098fd463f0ae687.png&t=665&c=-MBufELrSojVeQ) Also I posted about it here, and now I'm waiting for the additional $5. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) All of you guys playing on the site for years know how I feel. Good Luck to all of you reading this post! And hit that 10000 for $200 prize too! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Years of playing, never getting this prize let alone the number 10000 with a grand prize of $200, but you are lucky to get $20, thank you @betwrong for sharing your winnings here, it means we all know that any win on freebitcoin including free spins we get notifications via email as well. I know that it's nothing more than luck so not everyone is lucky to get the big prize also in the daily free spins or weekly ticket lottery, I hope to have the same luck as you. btw the price of FUN is increasing hopefully it will enter the bull market soon
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Guys look at the email I got the other day from Freebitco.in ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F20%2FScreenshot-from-2023-05-20-14-19-404e99ec3a0a7e1bb7.png&t=665&c=wTPeQ8wsKbl_gg) <...> Years of playing, never getting this prize let alone the number 10000 with a grand prize of $200, but you are lucky to get $20, thank you @betwrong for sharing your winnings here, it means we all know that any win on freebitcoin including free spins we get notifications via email as well. I know that it's nothing more than luck so not everyone is lucky to get the big prize also in the daily free spins or weekly ticket lottery, I hope to have the same luck as you. btw the price of FUN is increasing hopefully it will enter the bull market soon Man, I've been playing for years, and I can't even recall the last time I scored a measly 20 cents on a free bet game, let alone a whopping $20! Heck, even getting a paltry 2 cents as a reward feels like spotting a unicorn these days. I guess luck just ain't my strong suit compared to those fortunate folks out there. Congrats Betwrong!
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Guys look at the email I got the other day from Freebitco.in -snip All of you guys playing on the site for years know how I feel. Good Luck to all of you reading this post! And hit that 10000 for $200 prize too! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I totally love your dedication on spinning the roll though. I would not even last few days consistently spinning those rolls, in fact I havent really touch my account for some time lol unless if I feel like betting on the btc prices range with my leftover balance in there. Back in the days when I was quite active with the site, I think I hit 9995 once iirc but thats the highest that I've ever gotten lol Although I have been a user since 2014 or 2015, it seems that I will have to study all the options a little more ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Well they added alot more options compared to years ago theefore yeah it takes abit to get used to things now
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All of you guys playing on the site for years know how I feel. Good Luck to all of you reading this post! And hit that 10000 for $200 prize too! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is so nice! It's the first time I see someone winning the 2nd prize of the faucet! You should really celebrate this winning, because you have to be impressively lucky to hit it. Most of us, who are rolling the faucet for years already (almost 15,000 times here), have never been lucky enough to receive this reward. In a rarity scale, you got the epic prize, with 1 number distant from the legendary one... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 21, 2023, 06:41:04 PM |
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All of you guys playing on the site for years know how I feel. Good Luck to all of you reading this post! And hit that 10000 for $200 prize too! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is so nice! It's the first time I see someone winning the 2nd prize of the faucet! You should really celebrate this winning, because you have to be impressively lucky to hit it. Most of us, who are rolling the faucet for years already (almost 15,000 times here), have never been lucky enough to receive this reward. In a rarity scale, you got the epic prize, with 1 number distant from the legendary one... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) How does one even keep track of how many times they've rolled the faucet ?, I know for myself that I've been rolling the faucet since 2015, and for all the years and times I've been actively rolling, I've never been lucky enough to win such a price, it's always been the last or second to the last position for me. So indeed, hitting that second place is worth celebrating, and my congratulations goes to the lucky champ, I hope and pray his kind of luck finds its way to us too.
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May 21, 2023, 11:10:42 PM Last edit: May 21, 2023, 11:47:06 PM by hosseinimr93 |
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How does one even keep track of how many times they've rolled the faucet ?
To know how many times you have played the free roll, go to "Stats" and then click on "Personal stats". You can also see how much you have earned through the faucet and some other statistics there.
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May 22, 2023, 12:13:39 AM Last edit: May 23, 2023, 12:15:45 AM by STT |
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I totally love your dedication on spinning the roll though. I would not even last few days consistently spinning those rolls, Its worth doing due to the transformative way BTC price has moved through multiple orders of magnitude higher. So when I first heard of BTC it was right near its launch, because Im on a tech forum have been for decades. I was involved in PGP back in 2000 while it was banned also SETI@home a few other things back then (partly that explains the anonymity of Satoshi imo) so BTC was nothing much at all and even the (casual) users thought well this wont last past the end of year its just a fad or apparition whatever a momentary thing. But my failure in optimism was poorly placed and I already knew some of the background, ongoing currency weakness will accelerate etc. That lack of foresight is not especially forgivable hence I do think its worth doing the faucet spin at a minimum etc. because 100k BTC or similar silly sounding targets are somehow feasible and a little bit now will actually be worth more later hence I remain optimistic quite justifiably at this point tbh. I've rolled it over 10,000 times, pretty surprising as I dont sit there with an alarm clock waking in the night to spin it 24 hours a days lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) What I seem to remember is that despite that 10k times, I would need to spin 20k times to actually say my chances of hitting the top prize are even, is that correct? Something to do with the rounding up or down way of deciding numbers I think, so getting the top prize is actually twice as hard as it appears. I cannot ever remember getting the 20 dollar prize or higher prizes, I would say so if I got some good luck just to encourage others but cant remember as such. However tbh I often barely look at the spin result, I click and you know I'm checking messages or whatever I might have missed it I suppose. Spin history is also shown under the multiply game tab and also the wheel spins, in case you lose track briefly like I might.
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May 22, 2023, 02:16:04 AM |
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I have bought 50k FUN tokens a few months ago and locked them for 1 year with 25% APY. Each FUN token price was around 36 satoshi when I bought it. But now the FUN token value is 19 satoshi. The reward of the WOF spins won't be enough to recover the amount which I have lost for FUN/BTC pair drop until now. I think that the FUN/BTC pair will decrease more in the upcoming months.
I thought, when you sell all your tokens purchased at the start of the premium membership launch is the end of interest in fun tokens, and there will be no interest in investing in these tokens anymore. But indeed altcoins are often very tempting because if the price goes up it can provide huge profits, when the FUN Token drops to 40 Satoshi many think it's the cheapest price but it turns out that now it has fallen 50% from the price that is considered the cheapest and surely many also still think this is the cheapest price but, there is a great chance to down even up to the price of only 10 Satoshi, so the risk of loss is very wide open. The total locked tokens are still quite a lot of 2.7 billion so there are still many who are still investing because they believe the price will improve but I sold it a few months ago of course at a loss after finishing locking it for a year and currently only have around 3,500 left and only intend to buy the results from WoF not by making a deposit to buy it.
Congratulations Betwrong, only one number to get the biggest prize, it looks easy but the chances of getting it are very small.
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May 22, 2023, 07:08:12 AM |
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I didn't ask you to write a comment if you don't like it.~
It's a public forum which means everybody is entitled to comment if they want. I didn't use insults for you.~
In forum etiquette posting your comments in bold is seen as shouting and considered very rude. So although you might not have used insults directly your behaviour here might have had a significant influence on how people responded to you.
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May 22, 2023, 07:51:28 AM |
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I have bought 50k FUN tokens a few months ago and locked them for 1 year with 25% APY. Each FUN token price was around 36 satoshi when I bought it. But now the FUN token value is 19 satoshi. The reward of the WOF spins won't be enough to recover the amount which I have lost for FUN/BTC pair drop until now. I think that the FUN/BTC pair will decrease more in the upcoming months.
I thought, when you sell all your tokens purchased at the start of the premium membership launch is the end of interest in fun tokens, and there will be no interest in investing in these tokens anymore. But indeed altcoins are often very tempting because if the price goes up it can provide huge profits, when the FUN Token drops to 40 Satoshi many think it's the cheapest price but it turns out that now it has fallen 50% from the price that is considered the cheapest and surely many also still think this is the cheapest price but, there is a great chance to down even up to the price of only 10 Satoshi, so the risk of loss is very wide open. The total locked tokens are still quite a lot of 2.7 billion so there are still many who are still investing because they believe the price will improve but I sold it a few months ago of course at a loss after finishing locking it for a year and currently only have around 3,500 left and only intend to buy the results from WoF not by making a deposit to buy it.
Congratulations Betwrong, only one number to get the biggest prize, it looks easy but the chances of getting it are very small. It is always a nice idea to buy FUN tokens when we are not using money from our own pocket,meaning to buy them through the free rolls we make,from referrals commissions and of course mainly from the WoF spins which can give us a nice boost as usually with 10 spins we get about 100-200 Satoshi most of the time and these are enough now to buy 5-10 FUN daily without doing anything.For the moment this may look like nothing but imagine if the price of FUN goes a minimum at 100 Satoshi where it was when it first launched,most of us would be happy so why not start working now and be happy when the time comes? On a side not congrats to Betwrong,it is not easy to get that ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) .
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