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[Fivestar4everMVP]

but I didn’t expect somebody with Royse’s reputation to go anywhere near an actual verified scam project

Royse does tend to choose shady projects a bit more often than the other managers though which could possibly land him in big trouble one day. Smh!

I see that there are two mentions of Royse's name here, wouldn't it be nice to mention his name in full? AB de Royse777

By mentioning his full name it allows him to get notifications if he uses a Telegram bot.
Considering that the issue at hand is a verified scam project, as you mentioned.

That way it may be the material for evaluation by the person concerned, that what is carried out is not appropriate as a person who has a reputation.

Absolutely right to mention the concerned party in a manner his or her attention can be drawn to what is being discussed about him or her here, because not doing so and yet talking or discussing about the party is nothing short of backbiting or gossiping the party behind his or her back, for which personally, i consider this kind of behavior bad for any gentle man to engage himself in, what you cant say to the face of a person, then better don't say it in their back.

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Been a while, like several months since i last visited this thread and also followed up on any discussion related to freebitco, and just now, i tried visiting the platform and realized the site is no longer online, i do not know for how long the site have been offline but i do feel we no longer need this thread to be active since the platform associated with it is likely no more, i wonder what the mods are waiting for before they finally lock this thread?

[FinneysTrueVision]

I see that there are two mentions of Royse's name here, wouldn't it be nice to mention his name in full? AB de Royse777

By mentioning his full name it allows him to get notifications if he uses a Telegram bot.
Considering that the issue at hand is a verified scam project, as you mentioned.

That way it may be the material for evaluation by the person concerned, that what is carried out is not appropriate as a person who has a reputation.

The campaign was already paused, so the point is moot.

Absolutely right to mention the concerned party in a manner his or her attention can be drawn to what is being discussed about him or her here, because not doing so and yet talking or discussing about the party is nothing short of backbiting or gossiping the party behind his or her back, for which personally, i consider this kind of behavior bad for any gentle man to engage himself in, what you cant say to the face of a person, then better don't say it in their back.

I could dig up many posts from Royse’s Telegram group when people tried to get his attention when people were cheating in prediction contests. He always turned a blind eye.

I’m not even sure he reads notifications, so I considered mentioning it somewhere with more visibility, like his Telegram group, however pointless that might turn out to be, but the campaign had just ended by the time I went to check on its status again.

[Hispo]

I think somebody should make the Wikipedia article about freebitco.in.

It may be a good idea, it would help to properly register what actually happen and to further spread information of this exit scam.
But let us be honest as well: creating a fully documented and well-structured wikipedia page on Freebitcoin would take a significant amount of time and effort (because of the process of information gathering).
It is not the kind of thing a single person would decide to do alone, that is rather something which is supposed to be done by a group of people.

If you decide to start writing the article on Wikipedia, let me know so I can also collaborate.

[hd49728]

I think somebody should make the Wikipedia article about freebitco.in.

It can be a good contribution, reference and warning about Freebitco.in but it's not the only way to know about Freebitco.in and have reminders about this casino.

It may be a good idea, it would help to properly register what actually happen and to further spread information of this exit scam.
But let us be honest as well: creating a fully documented and well-structured wikipedia page on Freebitcoin would take a significant amount of time and effort (because of the process of information gathering).

Wikipedia is a good place for having collective information about Freebitco.in but as said, it's not the only place to do that. With search engines, with AIs, nowadays people can quickly find and have information, including warnings about Freebitco.in.

They only don't know about such important information if they are very careless with their money, and they are too lazy to type some words for searching about Freebitco.in. It's the same with other things as searching is very quick and it's only challenging for people to spend some seconds to type keywords for their searching.

[Haunebu]

By mentioning his full name it allows him to get notifications if he uses a Telegram bot.
Considering that the issue at hand is a verified scam project, as you mentioned.

That way it may be the material for evaluation by the person concerned, that what is carried out is not appropriate as a person who has a reputation.

As @FinneysTrueVision already pointed out, what exactly would that do? He already paused that campaign probably realising that he got himself into another mess while he seems to be dealing with a similar situation recently related to BiggerZ.

Whatever the case, I doubt he would change his mindset regarding signature campaign selection just because of our opinions frankly speaking.

[Hispo]

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The only obstacle I see with using wikipedia and other wikis in order to spread the word about how happened with Freebitcoin and all this exit scam, it is how easy anyone can edit Wikipedia pages.

I remember back in the day, people involved with 1xbit and 1xbet tried to remove any scam accusation and warnings from Wikipedia, by editing their respective pages. That happened when 1xbit was running their signature campaign here on the forum.
Freebitcoin could easily do the same if they wanted to erase their path and accusations on the open internet...

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I was not aware that they were running a signature campaign on Altcoinstalks. Unsurprisingly, it is filled with some really terrible posters and account farmers. I know managers don’t always have the highest standards, but I didn’t expect somebody with Royse’s reputation to go anywhere near an actual verified scam project, which has really made no effort to hide the fact that they are the same people behind FreeBitco.in.

Can you help me refer to which project related to freebitco.in is meant here? Is he still active on altcoinstalks?
I'm trying to find it by reading the posts backwards, but I didn't recognize what it was about. I'm active on the altt forum, so I'm interested in doing some additional research.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Can you help me refer to which project related to freebitco.in is meant here? Is he still active on altcoinstalks?
I'm trying to find it by reading the posts backwards, but I didn't recognize what it was about. I'm active on the altt forum, so I'm interested in doing some additional research.

It’s called ft.games, they were counting on the spammers they hired to keep their thread active but they aren’t present themselves through an official representative.

[Synchronice]

it hit triple zeros a few minites ago before bouncing back to $0.001, i hope this would be the end of it tbh.
they have been pushing their new funtoken casino ft.games lately on altcoinstalks, and that casino looks like just a reskin of freebitco.in concept with extra gimmicks.

they don't even display the correct token price for the 2 players active on their website right now:

I was not aware that they were running a signature campaign on Altcoinstalks. Unsurprisingly, it is filled with some really terrible posters and account farmers. I know managers don’t always have the highest standards, but I didn’t expect somebody with Royse’s reputation to go anywhere near an actual verified scam project, which has really made no effort to hide the fact that they are the same people behind FreeBitco.in.

What makes me think this is: wouldn’t it have been easier to just carry on running the casino honestly? That casino was a cash cow. They must have screwed up at some point, and that’s when the scam began. The difference is that in the fiat world they’d be in pre-trial detention at the very least, but by running it from a hideout on the internet, they’re still trying to swindle people with copies of what once worked.

I don't understand the point either. They could use all of their resources to improve Freebitco. This website already had a huge traffic and lots of loyal customers. If the word "free" was a problem for them in their domain name since faucet was no longer a profitable business model, they could create a new website, import the database there and redirect all freebitco users to a new website. But instead, we got a new FUN token casino but the funny thing is that they didn't advertise on Bitcointalk, instead, they chose altcoinstalks.
I also noticed that ft.games doesn't have a license. I can't see privacy policy, Terms & Conditions and other pages on their website as well. This makes them illegal, doesn't it?

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It’s called ft.games, they were counting on the spammers they hired to keep their thread active but they aren’t present themselves through an official representative.

Ok, I found it.
I see that the signature campaign has ended after two weeks.
If I understood correctly, there is a suspicion that behind ft.games is the same team that ran freebitco.in? Is it only because of the FUN token or are there other indications?

[DrBeer]

I think somebody should make the Wikipedia article about freebitco.in.

It may be a good idea, it would help to properly register what actually happen and to further spread information of this exit scam.
But let us be honest as well: creating a fully documented and well-structured wikipedia page on Freebitcoin would take a significant amount of time and effort (because of the process of information gathering).
It is not the kind of thing a single person would decide to do alone, that is rather something which is supposed to be done by a group of people.

If you decide to start writing the article on Wikipedia, let me know so I can also collaborate.

That's a great idea-I'm all for it! The more information there is, the more likely it is that users will come across it, people will be better informed and will act more sensibly. If someone creates a Wikipedia article about freebitco.in in English, I'd be happy to translate it into Ukrainian and Russian.
 

[decodx]

I don't understand the point either. They could use all of their resources to improve Freebitco. This website already had a huge traffic and lots of loyal customers. If the word "free" was a problem for them in their domain name since faucet was no longer a profitable business model, they could create a new website, import the database there and redirect all freebitco users to a new website. But instead, we got a new FUN token casino but the funny thing is that they didn't advertise on Bitcointalk, instead, they chose altcoinstalks.

By all accounts the answer is as simple as they come - GREED! This large data base of faucet “loyal” users represent a huge burden on them because these users expect to get free hand-outs, daily interest & "old-school" rewards while contributing nothing. So why go through the trouble of migrating millions upon millions of users that merely want something for free? Just launch this pretty little new website (the FUN Token Casino) brand-new out-of-the-box unencumbered by any old baggage!

[FinneysTrueVision]

If I understood correctly, there is a suspicion that behind ft.games is the same team that ran freebitco.in? Is it only because of the FUN token or are there other indications?

They’ve intentionally kept information about the new site very minimal, not even including any terms and conditions or privacy policy. We still know they are connected because their X account and Telegram channel in the footer of their website are those belonging to the management behind the FUN token. Promotional emails coming from funtoken.io also advertise the new casino. I also don’t think anybody else besides the FreeBitco.in owners, who have also been behind every other failed FUN token casino, would create a product around the 653rd ranked cryptocurrency on CoinMarketCap. Then there is the UI and graphics. The design and features are very similar to FreeBitco.in and their graphics are reminiscent of FBC’s promotional materials.