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March 28, 2018, 05:30:12 PM
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IMO if someone is going to red paint another for leaving reciprocal merit, they should do it evenly and not pick and choose.  :/
I agree, which is why I've been conflicted about leaving negs for suspected merit abuse from day one, and I said it in another thread that if you were to look at my merit history you'd probably think I was trading them with TMAN or Foxpup--and I have no way of proving that in reality I have no idea who either of them are, have never spoken to either one outside of a couple of PMs (TMAN) that did not pertain to merits or anything like that, and that it's a case of respecting one another.

This guy here, though?  Looks like he's cheating bounties as well.  That is a forum no-no, and I'm confident my feedback here is correct. 

Thanks for chiming in, Vod.  I specifically asked for your opinion here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3202458
, and now I have it.  I'm going to revisit any feedback I've left specifically for merit abuse, and I'll probably end up deleting it.  I hate doing that, but I tend to agree with you on the merit issue.

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March 28, 2018, 06:04:31 PM
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Negative trust is being given out inconsistently for merit abuse.
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But is this really abuse? For example, on the first day, Lauda and Atriz exchanged 80 merits between them.
http://dev.martinlawrence.ca/bpip/profile.aspx?p=Lauda

On my own profile, I have sent 20 merit to a user who has sent me 8 back.
http://dev.martinlawrence.ca/bpip/profile.aspx?p=Vod

Even the person that left you negative trust has the same behavior on his account with TMAN.
http://dev.martinlawrence.ca/bpip/profile.aspx?p=The%20Pharmacist
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IMO if someone is going to red paint another for leaving reciprocal merit, they should do it evenly and not pick and choose.  :/
I don't see any of those examples being valid for this case. In all those three examples, none of the participating parties are not alt accounts and to our knowledge they haven't attempted to sell/buy merit. However, in the case of OP we are talking about multiple accounts per entity (assuming the alt account connection is valid; I have not checked the details of the report) abusing both bounties and merit.

Thanks for chiming in, Vod.  I specifically asked for your opinion here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3202458
, and now I have it.  I'm going to revisit any feedback I've left specifically for merit abuse, and I'll probably end up deleting it.  I hate doing that, but I tend to agree with you on the merit issue.
I missed that one; I'll also comment if I find some time.

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March 28, 2018, 06:19:05 PM
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I missed that one; I'll also comment if I find some time.
Thank you, because I asked for your input specifically as well.

Edit:  I removed red trust from users I'd left it for, for suspected merit abuse only.  That doesn't include the bounty cheaters or members who'd committed some other offense concurrently.  I'm still in the process of removing all those negs for shitposters.  I thought I'd gotten them all, but it seems there's always more.

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March 28, 2018, 07:51:42 PM
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I missed that one; I'll also comment if I find some time.
Thank you, because I asked for your input specifically as well.

Edit:  I removed red trust from users I'd left it for, for suspected merit abuse only.  That doesn't include the bounty cheaters or members who'd committed some other offense concurrently.  I'm still in the process of removing all those negs for shitposters.  I thought I'd gotten them all, but it seems there's always more.

Can we expect you to return a neutral trust to me and my friends? We are ready to provide any evidence that we dont sell merit and that we are not Alt. We can go through the KYC.
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March 28, 2018, 07:56:54 PM
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I missed that one; I'll also comment if I find some time.
Thank you, because I asked for your input specifically as well.

Edit:  I removed red trust from users I'd left it for, for suspected merit abuse only.  That doesn't include the bounty cheaters or members who'd committed some other offense concurrently.  I'm still in the process of removing all those negs for shitposters.  I thought I'd gotten them all, but it seems there's always more.

Can we expect you to return a neutral trust to me and my friends? We are ready to provide any evidence that we dont sell merit and that we are not Alt. We can go through the KYC.


fully support Malevich. I'm not alt and did not deal with the sale of merit. any evidence can also be provided

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March 29, 2018, 04:42:08 AM
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I missed that one; I'll also comment if I find some time.
Thank you, because I asked for your input specifically as well.

Edit:  I removed red trust from users I'd left it for, for suspected merit abuse only.  That doesn't include the bounty cheaters or members who'd committed some other offense concurrently.  I'm still in the process of removing all those negs for shitposters.  I thought I'd gotten them all, but it seems there's always more.

Can we expect you to return a neutral trust to me and my friends? We are ready to provide any evidence that we dont sell merit and that we are not Alt. We can go through the KYC.


fully support Malevich. I'm not alt and did not deal with the sale of merit. any evidence can also be provided

The way you both reply here with a few minutes of interval is really suspicious. Even though you provide both KYC to prove that you are a different entity then it might not help you since it was easy to fake it and also the proof on your negative rating seems valid. You must gain your merit base on a quality post. This merit system is still has flaws tho.

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March 29, 2018, 06:11:18 AM
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I missed that one; I'll also comment if I find some time.
Thank you, because I asked for your input specifically as well.

Edit:  I removed red trust from users I'd left it for, for suspected merit abuse only.  That doesn't include the bounty cheaters or members who'd committed some other offense concurrently.  I'm still in the process of removing all those negs for shitposters.  I thought I'd gotten them all, but it seems there's always more.

Can we expect you to return a neutral trust to me and my friends? We are ready to provide any evidence that we dont sell merit and that we are not Alt. We can go through the KYC.


fully support Malevich. I'm not alt and did not deal with the sale of merit. any evidence can also be provided

The way you both reply here with a few minutes of interval is really suspicious. Even though you provide both KYC to prove that you are a different entity then it might not help you since it was easy to fake it and also the proof on your negative rating seems valid. You must gain your merit base on a quality post. This merit system is still has flaws tho.

Topic created on March 28, 2018, 03:03:40 PM, but I wrote only in March 28, 2018, 07:56:54 PM.

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March 29, 2018, 11:54:35 AM
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I missed that one; I'll also comment if I find some time.
Thank you, because I asked for your input specifically as well.

Edit:  I removed red trust from users I'd left it for, for suspected merit abuse only.  That doesn't include the bounty cheaters or members who'd committed some other offense concurrently.  I'm still in the process of removing all those negs for shitposters.  I thought I'd gotten them all, but it seems there's always more.

Can we expect you to return a neutral trust to me and my friends? We are ready to provide any evidence that we dont sell merit and that we are not Alt. We can go through the KYC.


fully support Malevich. I'm not alt and did not deal with the sale of merit. any evidence can also be provided

The way you both reply here with a few minutes of interval is really suspicious. Even though you provide both KYC to prove that you are a different entity then it might not help you since it was easy to fake it and also the proof on your negative rating seems valid. You must gain your merit base on a quality post. This merit system is still has flaws tho.

Agree that is very foolish on our part would be to kick up a fuss when we Alt. If we were Alt and sold merit, then we would not have so openly to do it,you will agree that it's ridiculous. But we do not do such and still assure you that we are different people and that we are not doing anything illegal on the forum.
Why on such a large forum there is a system of KYC which is so easy to fake? If the system is inefficient for what then does it exist?
How to act to people who were accused of fraud, to the end did not justify, painted the trust, and people were not to blame and no longer prove the truth?
In this topic everyone is talking about the fact that we are a Scam,but no one suggested it as now we have to prove the opposite.
I realized that I will have to provide proof of our innocence,as you say the forum is not an adequate system of KYC, and there is no one to do with our problems.
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March 30, 2018, 03:45:12 PM
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I missed that one; I'll also comment if I find some time.
Thank you, because I asked for your input specifically as well.

Edit:  I removed red trust from users I'd left it for, for suspected merit abuse only.  That doesn't include the bounty cheaters or members who'd committed some other offense concurrently.  I'm still in the process of removing all those negs for shitposters.  I thought I'd gotten them all, but it seems there's always more.
I can send in private messages DT Manager my selfie with today's date and links to accounts in social networks. I've sent messages before, but they don't answer.
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March 30, 2018, 05:32:54 PM
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Negative trust is being given out inconsistently for merit abuse.
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But is this really abuse? For example, on the first day, Lauda and Atriz exchanged 80 merits between them.
http://dev.martinlawrence.ca/bpip/profile.aspx?p=Lauda

On my own profile, I have sent 20 merit to a user who has sent me 8 back.
http://dev.martinlawrence.ca/bpip/profile.aspx?p=Vod

Even the person that left you negative trust has the same behavior on his account with TMAN.
http://dev.martinlawrence.ca/bpip/profile.aspx?p=The%20Pharmacist
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IMO if someone is going to red paint another for leaving reciprocal merit, they should do it evenly and not pick and choose.  :/
I don't see any of those examples being valid for this case. In all those three examples, none of the participating parties are not alt accounts and to our knowledge they haven't attempted to sell/buy merit. However, in the case of OP we are talking about multiple accounts per entity (assuming the alt account connection is valid; I have not checked the details of the report) abusing both bounties and merit.
Actually you and aTriz are in business together so the situation is very similar to as if you are the same person. Also the circumstantial evidence that some people use to say that you are aTriz are the same person has roughly the same strength as the circumstantial evidence to say that other merit “abusers” are sending merit to themselves.

I’ve also seen multiple instances in that someone was essentially doing something that someone else didn’t like with merit, received negative trust for said action and any serious discussion was refused.

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IMO if someone is going to red paint another for leaving reciprocal merit, they should do it evenly and not pick and choose.  :/
I agree, which is why I've been conflicted about leaving negs for suspected merit abuse from day one, and I said it in another thread that if you were to look at my merit history you'd probably think I was trading them with TMAN or Foxpup--and I have no way of proving that in reality I have no idea who either of them are, have never spoken to either one outside of a couple of PMs (TMAN) that did not pertain to merits or anything like that, and that it's a case of respecting one another.

This guy here, though?  Looks like he's cheating bounties as well.  That is a forum no-no, and I'm confident my feedback here is correct.  

Thanks for chiming in, Vod.  I specifically asked for your opinion here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3202458
, and now I have it.  I'm going to revisit any feedback I've left specifically for merit abuse, and I'll probably end up deleting it.  I hate doing that, but I tend to agree with you on the merit issue.

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April 04, 2018, 04:46:38 AM
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Maybe in your corner of the world this constitutes proof of your not being a bounty cheater, but not in mine.

You sent me a gigantic picture of a young man holding a piece of paper with your username and the date on it...and that proves nothing.  As I said in another thread, one of the sickest individuals on the dark web, the guy who ran that "hurtcore" child abuse website was discovered to be a young, innocent-looking 22-year old white kid when the cops nabbed him in Australia (I just read about this, and it was a shocking story.  Drives me insane that we share the world with people like this).  What exactly do you think you're showing me by sending me a picture?  Am I supposed to look at your picture and say you therefore couldn't have alt accounts or cheat a bounty?  Give me a break.  The fact is, that could be a picture of anyone.

Feedback stays, and I'd advise you not to send pictures like that to total strangers, and it shouldn't surprise you that I've blocked your PMs.  There isn't anything to say to you, and I don't want my inbox filling up with the same requests.  You're going to have to suck it up and move forward.

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September 03, 2018, 02:03:22 PM
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Once again I welcome you The Pharmacist and ask you to pay attention to my post. xandry wrote me in PM that the exchange marit not prohibited but I still have negative trust for that.
I attach the proof and the English translation of the message from xandri.



Translating a message from a xandri - "Good time to you too. About the problems with the trust level is already all described in the topic - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1804284.0
Dispose of the merit you can as you please".
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Once again I welcome you The Pharmacist and ask you to pay attention to my post. xandry wrote me in PM that the exchange marit not prohibited but I still have negative trust for that.
I attach the proof and the English translation of the message from xandri.
I think your red trust or merit abuse has been removed but you still need to prove to ThePharmacist that you don't own the other two accounts (Krypt211,meloman4u) connected to you in the bounty campaign, and sadly linking your social media accounts is not proof or a way to unlink you that you don't own the other accounts, at best it is just a proof that your account is owned by a man named Aleksei Malevich, and maybe the other two is owned by the same person. You must provide a reason why all three of you received ETH from the same address as it is the reason why you are tagged under in bounty abuse.

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September 03, 2018, 07:18:16 PM
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What does Xandry have to do with me?  Why did you bump this thread?

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September 03, 2018, 10:04:56 PM
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You must provide a reason why all three of you received ETH from the same address as it is the reason why you are tagged under in bounty abuse.
Hm.....I don't agree with this connection.


This accounts are accidentally online on the same period of time and also accidentally merited same accounts.  Smiley

Are they?

Isn't that picture pointing at....local time?

Also, I would take deep research about accounts connected by this person https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg35036207#msg35036207, as he has at least 70 alt accounts.

Connection was made using this as a proof of connection:
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All these accounts were received ETH from the same ETH address: 0x5713b1495ad3449fcc73f90f4573d43e67e0c1fe

This user posted that they received 0.002 ETH from that addy:
Ich habe heute 0,002 ETH erhalten und viele andere auch. Weiß jemand was darüber?

https://etherscan.io/address/0x5713b1495ad3449fcc73f90f4573d43e67e0c1fe

This one too:
Hab sie auch bekommen.
Keine Ahnung warum  Grin
There are probably many more accounts who received ethereum - I didn't look further than this.

Looking at that address: https://etherscan.io/address/0x5713b1495ad3449fcc73f90f4573d43e67e0c1fe - it contains 5000 ethereum transactions.
I believe this was airdrop. Right?

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September 05, 2018, 03:33:20 PM
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This one was airdrop and with these guys we are just familiar and participated almost in the same bounty. How can you believe a person who is a alts and how can you take his evidence into account?
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Hi The Pharmacist. Do you trust the evidence of people who are the alts themselves ? am I right?
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