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October 30, 2013, 10:00:18 PM
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I reckon he still has most of it.
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October 30, 2013, 10:03:02 PM
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Yea, it depends if you believe his story or not.
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October 30, 2013, 11:47:54 PM
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Cute story. Except there are no traces of his donations to wikileaks in the blockchain.

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October 30, 2013, 11:56:09 PM
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http://www.coindesk.com/fbi-proves-seizing-bitcoins-isnt-owning/

they say dpr is heavier  Shocked
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October 30, 2013, 11:58:01 PM
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If you play with blockchain.info, you can very easy guess who has this coins: https://blockchain.info/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF
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October 31, 2013, 12:15:01 AM
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I thought bitcoiners enjoyed privacy?
Shouldn't we respect each other privacy?
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October 31, 2013, 12:23:49 AM
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I thought bitcoiners enjoyed privacy?
Shouldn't we respect each other privacy?

What privacy? You're on the internet. There is no such thing as privacy.

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October 31, 2013, 01:47:55 AM
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I thought bitcoiners enjoyed privacy?
Shouldn't we respect each other privacy?

The bitcoiners who prefer privacy simply do not contribute to this list by letting the world know how many bitcoins they have. Those running exchangers or business where profits are public do not have anything to hide in the first place. So how is the privacy not respected?

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October 31, 2013, 01:56:43 AM
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It is easy to split Bitcoin addresses with a large balance into multiple addresses with smaller balances.

But it does require that you:
  • be alive
  • still have the private key
  • not be in jail
  • want to do it

Then you will not show up on lists like these.
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October 31, 2013, 02:17:46 AM
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The list is intended to help the people in question to identify themselves as Bitcoin powercenters,

Incidentally, this will likely get you unwanted attention.  I'm nowhere near even being in "Vladimir's club" so won't appear on this list but even I have received extortion threats demanding bitcoins.

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October 31, 2013, 04:28:12 AM
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regarding a Mr. "knightmb": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6825.0
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October 31, 2013, 07:41:38 AM
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Zhou Thong,  and his friend Chen,  own / stole at least 10 000 btc from Bitcoinica's users.
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October 31, 2013, 08:09:17 AM
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Have you noticed that NSA/CIA/FBI just cannot keep their hands off the top owners of bitcoins worldwide?

Perhaps some sort of one-for-all and all-for-one -approach by the 100 richest would be in order. If one of us gets harassed by the old regime, the top strategists, lawyers etc. would be instantly available.

Divide et impera no more.
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October 31, 2013, 08:21:55 AM
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PS: This thread is a gold mine for criminals. Great idea.

Let's face it. The amount of research put into this thread is far far less than any criminal, let alone intelligence agency, would do. We are not disclosing anything that the criminals would not already know, or could not find out without being noticed.

It is for our protection that bitcoin owners are more aware of how important they are, and also that public holders are more public so that the publicity saves them from many adversities. Do you think the U.S. govt would now just as effortlessly pick the holders 5-10 and nobody would notice any pattern?

Twice in my life before, I have needed to protect my own life and well-being by essentially reporting non-stop what happens to me. In the age of Internet, being highly public is what protects dissidents.
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October 31, 2013, 09:46:53 AM
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1. In high probability, Satoshi's bitcoin stash is the greatest. He was the first to generate coins, and continued mining throughout 2009. He has mined 980,000 coins that have never been spent, using a distinguishable pattern and a unique version of the miner software. Whether he has mined other coins with standard miner(s), and/or bought or sold them, is very hard to find out, because we don't even know who Satoshi is. The upper limit of Satoshi's fortune can be estimated to 1.5 million, although the more likely case is close to 1 million.

2. It is becoming accepted knowledge that the owner of Silk Road, "Dread Pirate Roberts a.k.a. DPR", is a San Fransisco man named Ross Ulbricht whom the FBI nabbed in October, 2013, suspected of federal crimes. Silk Road was a successful online marketplace which had generated BTC615,000 in commissions during the time of operation. There is no evidence that DPR had spent many of the coins before getting caught. SR operating costs were similarly low. The FBI has cracked open a wallet containing BTC144,000, but it is likely that DPR still controls a sizable stash of coins, although it is also possible that they are spent or given away. We do well to suspect everyone who claims to know the whole truth concerning this case.

3. According to knightmb, the holding is completely dissipated voluntarily. There is a thread discussing this, and the claim is not generally held to be credible. More research is needed.

4. Analysis on MtGox' monthly profit and loss is needed to better assess the stash Karpeles controls.  

5. Not owned by FBI, but this is the balance of two addresses in FBI's control. The coins are confiscated from Silk Road and its merchants. If they owners of the coins are found guilty of felonies, the coins revert to the federal government and will be auctioned for fiat money.

6. The Winklevoss' came public in [when] telling that they plan to launch a Bitcoin ETF and have accumulated 1% of all (outstanding?) bitcoins.

7. Cypherdoc exchanged his lifetime savings of gold and silver for bitcoins starting in April 2011. Total holding estimated based on his likely lifetime savings, likely average conversion price, and stories how difficult it was to sell or even transport such an amount of silver.

8. Provably owns a single address with a balance of BTC40,000. Total holdings may reach up to BTC100k-200k.

9. Estimate based on his winning BTC11,000 in Just Dice, and having BTC15,000 invested in the "house bankroll" of Just Dice and Lets Dice. If his claim that he owns an ASIC manufacturer is true, the total stash may be larger than estimated.

10. Lost BTC15,000 in early 2013 with his business mpex.co without going broke. Has made thousands before and after that according to published records. Holds all his wealth in bitcoins.

11. Long-time forum VIP member, not disclosed his bitcoin holdings but estimate is based on several anecdotal evidence such as 400,000 LTC holding which is secondary to BTC holding, and BTC5,000 bet with Matthew that the latter defaulted.

12. Claimed in October 2013 to have 5 million dollars worth of bitcoins.

13. Claimed to have a million dollar worth of bitcoins at the time when it would have amounted approximately this many.

51. A middle point between rpietila's claim that he has "never after 1.1.2012 been in control of any less than BTC2,400 or any more than BTC35,000. Number includes family and corporate holdings.

101. Koch became famous in Oct 2013 when he bought a house for 1/5 of the $24 investment he had made in bitcoins in 2009. It is generally assumed that he still holds the balance of BTC4,000 since the recent article does not mention further sales.

What a worthless thread. Are you seriously just making guesses based on internet posts and not even trying to verify it?

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October 31, 2013, 10:10:11 AM
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RealSolid, the owner of mcxNOW, is currently selling share in the site.
 https://mcxnow.com/buymcx.html

He already raised 6000BTC with 33% sold.

So at the end , he will have 18,000BTC.

If you add that to what he currently own (unknow), he could be on the top 15.

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October 31, 2013, 10:24:35 AM
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I think most TOP 500 owners will try to stay anonymous.  It keeps the hackers away Tongue
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October 31, 2013, 10:47:50 AM
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What a worthless thread. Are you seriously just making guesses based on internet posts and not even trying to verify it?

If you do not like this thread, do not read or comment on it.

Strange how "truth" is in high regard among bitcoiners, but "pursuit thereof" is held in such contempt and many obstacles are thrown on the way.

As this a community effort, it is by design feeble at first, but grows larger and more accurate as it matures (or dies, if no support is found).

Let the free speech decide, if the thread is useful or not.

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October 31, 2013, 11:36:58 AM
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What a worthless thread. Are you seriously just making guesses based on internet posts and not even trying to verify it?

If you do not like this thread, do not read or comment on it.

Strange how "truth" is in high regard among bitcoiners, but "pursuit thereof" is held in such contempt and many obstacles are thrown on the way.

As this a community effort, it is by design feeble at first, but grows larger and more accurate as it matures (or dies, if no support is found).

Let the free speech decide, if the thread is useful or not.

Fool.

If someone can be traced like this, he was never anonymous in the first place and this was all public information to start with.

It does show (once again) we should all STFU more Wink
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October 31, 2013, 12:02:35 PM
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The long-awaited thread is here. From public sources, let us collect information on people/institutions who have disclosed their holdings. If you do not like this thread, do not read or comment on it.

Methodology comments OK (there is a lively debate on how to determine a bitcoin holding; let's try to find a common sense way). If the number of coins is marked with (*), there is additional explanation here.

The list is intended to help the people in question to identify themselves as Bitcoin powercenters, help networking and organization and boost their Bitcoin businesses. Free links are provided with list entry.


BITCOIN TOP-500: 1-50

1.  BTC980,000*. "Satoshi Nakamoto"

2.  BTC350,000*. "Dread Pirate Roberts" a.k.a. "DPR"

3.  BTC300,000*. "knightmb"

4.  BTC200,000. Mark Karpeles

5.  BTC174,000*. FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation, USA)

6.  BTC110,000. Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss

7.  BTC50,000. "cypherdoc"

8.  BTC40,000. "Loaded"

9.  BTC30,000. "nakowa"

10.  BTC30,000. Mircea Popescu

11.  BTC30,000. "Goat"

12.  BTC25,000. Chamath Palihapitiya

13.  BTC20,000. Max Keiser

Others in this category, awaiting for sources:
Roger Ver
Erik Voorhees
Jon Matonis
Gavin Andresen
Tony Galippi
Charlie Shrem
Peter Vessenes
Luke Dashjr
Mike Caldwell (Casascius)

BITCOIN TOP-500: 51-500 (link)


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