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October 31, 2013, 02:29:32 PM
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I have nowhere near that though I wish.  Cheesy
what?? I thought you carried backpacks full of metal to the dealer and got bitcoin for it in early... 2012? 2011?
Key words were "carry by hand" and not "by truck".
30 kg of AU at todays prices is ~$1.3M. I can carry 30 kg quite easily Wink

It must have been silver, then. => Cypherdoc downgraded to my level based upon his own request.
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October 31, 2013, 02:45:58 PM
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MP:
838,284,714 S.MPOE shares, 30day avg price 0.00085145 = 713757.52 BTC.
50% stake in S.BBET, 10,000,000 shares, 30day avg price 0.00065159 = 3257.97 BTC
Stock warrants for 88,096,605 S.MG shares at 1 par, 30day avg price 0.00018137 = 7168.42 BTC.
Grand total: 724183.91 BTC.

Probably a few BTC from his participation as minority partner in S.NSA, too, as well as whatever BTC, private investments etc he may hold.

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October 31, 2013, 02:54:29 PM
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MP:
838,284,714 S.MPOE shares, 30day avg price 0.00085145 = 713757.52 BTC.
50% stake in S.BBET, 10,000,000 shares, 30day avg price 0.00065159 = 3257.97 BTC
Stock warrants for 88,096,605 S.MG shares at 1 par, 30day avg price 0.00018137 = 7168.42 BTC.
Grand total: 724183.91 BTC.

Probably a few BTC from his participation as minority partner in S.NSA, too, as well as whatever BTC, private investments etc he may hold.


Wow, that's quite transparent Smiley

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October 31, 2013, 03:18:13 PM
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MP:
838,284,714 S.MPOE shares, 30day avg price 0.00085145 = 713757.52 BTC.
50% stake in S.BBET, 10,000,000 shares, 30day avg price 0.00065159 = 3257.97 BTC
Stock warrants for 88,096,605 S.MG shares at 1 par, 30day avg price 0.00018137 = 7168.42 BTC.
Grand total: 724183.91 BTC.

Probably a few BTC from his participation as minority partner in S.NSA, too, as well as whatever BTC, private investments etc he may hold.


sell it all to make it count.


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October 31, 2013, 03:41:01 PM
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His part of S.MPOE is worth 142.7M$?

How many shares are there in total  Huh
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October 31, 2013, 05:21:05 PM
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sell it all to make it count.

All the btc you mean?

His part of S.MPOE is worth 142.7M$?

How many shares are there in total  Huh

You know you can just read the contract. S.MPOE has been Bitcoin's largest public company for years now. S.DICE nearly equaled it (or I think equaled it for a brief moment in the summer of 2012), AM was for a few months in the Summer of 2013 well above it (almost double at some point I think), but alas these come and go. S.MPOE is still here.

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October 31, 2013, 05:25:24 PM
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sell it all to make it count.

All the btc you mean?


He means that (despite it is not explicitly mentioned anywhere in the thread) only actual bitcoins count. If something is valued in bitcoins, like MP's shareholdings, they don't count for the purposes of this thread.
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October 31, 2013, 05:32:25 PM
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sell it all to make it count.

All the btc you mean?


He means that (despite it is not explicitly mentioned anywhere in the thread) only actual bitcoins count. If something is valued in bitcoins, like MP's shareholdings, they don't count for the purposes of this thread.

It's true this should not count for this particular thread. His holdings are far from worthless (although the valuation based on market price isn't very accurate if you hold so much of the shares) and he has a big investment in Bitcoin, just not directly. I appreciated the transparency. Thanks! Smiley

This is all separate of how I (or any of you) feel about MP. I always have the feeling he likes to go out of his way NOT to be liked Grin

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October 31, 2013, 05:38:22 PM
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If something is valued in bitcoins, like MP's shareholdings, they don't count for the purposes of this thread.
It's true this should not count for this particular thread. His holdings are far from worthless (although the valuation based on market price isn't very accurate if you hold so much of the shares) and he has a big investment in Bitcoin, just not directly. I appreciated the transparency. Thanks! Smiley

This is all separate of how I (or any of you) feel about MP. I always have the feeling he likes to go out of his way NOT to be liked Grin

I have begun to think that the valuation of S.MPOE is legit (and if we would have a Bitcoin-who-is-who-in-total-wealth list, it should be counted), but I think it is grossly overvalued, and I would not even consider buying at this price.

Does anyone have a better estimate of MP's bitcoin stash?
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October 31, 2013, 05:57:55 PM
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Does anyone have a better estimate of MP's bitcoin stash?

How about "big enough that when BTC is about to move up people come to ask for permission"?

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October 31, 2013, 06:32:17 PM
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 Roll Eyes   She failed to get a joke made on irc...

Posts like this more or less prove this is not MP using a sock. MP is not nearly this dumb.



I think you failed to get the joke she made about the joke made on irc.

Pls don't tell me I failed to get the joke you made about the joke she made about the joke made on irc.  Sad
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November 01, 2013, 06:51:45 AM
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Perhaps it's good that this was moved to off-topic becuase now it really is.
I assumed you were going to clean up the posts sooner or later.

Also some of the staff here hold a lot of BTC. They have been anti these sort of lists in the past.

Yes I will clean up once that part of the conversation has died out, after a few days perhaps.

I wonder why so secret.. I voluntarily published my own records, because I want Bitcoin to grow. If the high rollers (at least some of them, to at least some precision) were public, it would greatly have increased for example my trust in bitcoin. You want to know the reason why I don't buy altcoins? Nobody knows the holders, so scam, pump and dump are apparent.

Can anyone imagine how much more money I make selling bitcoins when I can say that I own a million-dollar-chunk of them myself? Publicity is good. The trust towards Bitcoin foundation would increase instantly if the board made a joint declaration that they own 10% of bitcoins.

I think the secretive members of the staff should just wake up to the fact that this may be the first public list of their estimated holdings, but government, criminal and even private organisations have their own lists already. I was also thinking of collecting the list privately but then thought - what a heck, this way I can make other people help me in the gathering of the data and make it benefit the public the most, and it is much cheaper too.

If you own too many bitcoins relative to your ability, just sell the excess part and pay the taxes. It is no shame to be an early adapter.
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November 01, 2013, 08:11:06 AM
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I missed out on the early bitcoin thing, but only because of circumstances and situations beyond my control,
or else I believe I would be on that list. ( I remember finding bitcoin in the fall of 2009 , but I was struggling for my life at the time, and all my money went to keep me alive, and I still did not have enough.  )




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November 01, 2013, 10:36:51 AM
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sell it all to make it count.

All the btc you mean?

What you listed is not BTC holdings, but some assets you claim to own.

Try not to take it personally, but your balance sheet is irrelevant here since we're talking about "physical" BTC holdings.

(It's also bit similar to how the balance sheets of some (all?) banks are "inflated", because there's no way that shit could be sold on the market without sending price way south)

EDIT: oops, I'm late. Already said.

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November 01, 2013, 12:44:21 PM
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How about moving this back to Bitcoin discussion, which was a moderator decision (originally it was in Economics). Let's hope it was BadBear's personal problem that caused one of the most central and most followed (3000 reads in 2 days) threads to be moved here, which necessarily causes the information to be not as accurate as it could be.

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November 01, 2013, 08:03:10 PM
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What you listed is not BTC holdings, but some assets you claim to own.

Try not to take it personally, but your balance sheet is irrelevant here since we're talking about "physical" BTC holdings.

(It's also bit similar to how the balance sheets of some (all?) banks are "inflated", because there's no way that shit could be sold on the market without sending price way south)

EDIT: oops, I'm late. Already said.

No. What's listed are assets publicly and provenly owned. Everyone else's supposed BTC stashes are nothing more than empty claims. The difference you see cuts exactly the opposite way you'd like it to cut.

In other words: what you represent as satoshi's stash could well be MP's. MP's block of S.MPOE stock could not be anyone else's.

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November 01, 2013, 08:41:57 PM
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KnightMB 371,000 bitcoins
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/2/
nakowa 10,000+ bitcoins (assuming he hasn't lost it all since)
http://www.dailydot.com/news/biggest-bitcoin-win-gambling-history-nakowa/

He deposited a couple of thousand into Lets-dice and I'm pretty sure he lost a majority after gambling on just-dice (the after-effects, a plus .35% profit, oh it was beautiful).

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November 01, 2013, 09:37:37 PM
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I thought bitcoiners enjoyed privacy?
Shouldn't we respect each other privacy?

Privacy, with a full hand scan to get some bitcoins at the atm. Can buy anything i want without providing a fingerprint, only exception is few satoshi's at said machine.
 Privacy?
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November 01, 2013, 09:48:53 PM
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What you listed is not BTC holdings, but some assets you claim to own.
Try not to take it personally, but your balance sheet is irrelevant here since we're talking about "physical" BTC holdings.
(It's also bit similar to how the balance sheets of some (all?) banks are "inflated", because there's no way that shit could be sold on the market without sending price way south)
EDIT: oops, I'm late. Already said.
No. What's listed are assets publicly and provenly owned. Everyone else's supposed BTC stashes are nothing more than empty claims. The difference you see cuts exactly the opposite way you'd like it to cut.
In other words: what you represent as satoshi's stash could well be MP's. MP's block of S.MPOE stock could not be anyone else's.
A fairly common and accurate predictor of a person's wealth can be made by how desperately they brag about it.   Generally, it is like Queen Gertrude's dramatically ironic comment.


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November 01, 2013, 10:19:59 PM
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What you listed is not BTC holdings, but some assets you claim to own.

Try not to take it personally, but your balance sheet is irrelevant here since we're talking about "physical" BTC holdings.

(It's also bit similar to how the balance sheets of some (all?) banks are "inflated", because there's no way that shit could be sold on the market without sending price way south)

EDIT: oops, I'm late. Already said.

No. What's listed are assets publicly and provenly owned. Everyone else's supposed BTC stashes are nothing more than empty claims. The difference you see cuts exactly the opposite way you'd like it to cut.

In other words: what you represent as satoshi's stash could well be MP's. MP's block of S.MPOE stock could not be anyone else's.

Hey man, you are very wealthy, I get it and envy you.

but please show some respect for the context you're operating in here.

from OP:

Quote from: first post
From public sources, let us collect information on people/institutions who have disclosed their holdings. Only actual bitcoins count

Are those assets you listed bitcoins? If not they don't count for the purposes of this thread.

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