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April 02, 2018, 08:08:26 PM
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I think that this is possible, but under certain conditions, the most important condition is the pricing of other projects to for example other projects, because you need a link between the projects, and this should be some sort of project.
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April 04, 2018, 10:59:10 AM
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Uniquely can. Recently, we have been watching Bitcoin's last sighs before his final fall. I think it will happen till the end of this year.
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April 04, 2018, 01:05:38 PM
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I don't understand why not.This is a completely new area that is developing every day and there is a chance of absolutely everything so it seems to me that you can see this in the future

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April 04, 2018, 02:58:49 PM
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no, anything else may be possible but this one!

altcoins are not unique standalone projects. they are created to help people make more bitcoin when they get pumped and dumped. if they didn't move with bitcoin that means they are not even fulfilling their simple purpose in life.

however, it is possible that in the far future we see some new altcoins that are not created for pump and dump purposes. those won't move with bitcoin. but only in the future.

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April 04, 2018, 03:07:18 PM
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I don't think one can move in isolation, both depend on each other, people always forget that the success of this Altcoins has helped to srive up the demand for BTC, and also since most of the market is directly tied to BTC, how is it then possible for them to move with BTC influence

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April 05, 2018, 03:55:45 AM
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this is impossible to make altcoin without bitcoin because the money you earn this is from bitcoin rate listed otherwise you cannot earn money without bitcoin.

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April 05, 2018, 04:02:44 AM
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Definately possible, just a question of when.

Currently most altcoin purchases have to go through either BTC or ETH, once there are more direct options for purchase, this unbalanced stranglehold will dissipate.

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April 05, 2018, 04:06:33 AM
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Hi to you all !!

Is it possible to make alts move without growth of BTC ?

I know it is possible just look at MC down to 280b today. And we can see a few coins going up when BTC is going down. Know many sell their alts moving to BTC when the market going down. What if we all stop doing this and just focus on the coins we believe in ?

If BTC drops 50% you will lose the same amount of $ if you hold BTC or another coin (know BTC will recover faster) if thats your excuse. I see many post topics about why do alts drop. But to answer that question do alts drop because most of the traders move their investments from alts to BTC when the market goes red.

Why dont we just stop doing this and change the crypto world together ?
If all investors including whales dropped bitcoin and switched to alt then yes. But now many still believe in it and make them unconvincing, due to this, it also keeps on leading positions.

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April 05, 2018, 04:14:05 AM
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This will work if you know how coins really works in their own platform, even bitcoin goes up and down, we cannot hide the truth that bitcoin really affects the movement of all altcoins in the market,  but to move the altcoins without btc, its definitly not. I mean the balance of the value of every single altcoins will not recognized without bitcoin.
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April 05, 2018, 04:23:45 AM
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Possibly but as a matter of fact, it won't last forever. BTC price will always affect the market entirely as it remains the market determinant i would say. If BTC price goes up in most cases, there would be this drop in all ALTs price and later, ALTS would take their bullish run too. BTC remains the determinant. Thanks
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April 05, 2018, 04:26:54 AM
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All altcoin prices depend on the price of the BTC, In my opinion the sharks just manipulate the BTC that they can price the other altcoin. As the price of the BTC drops, other altcoin prices drop by 5 or 10. The altcoin market is connected, resonating together.

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April 05, 2018, 04:28:03 AM
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This will work if you know how coins really works in their own platform, even bitcoin goes up and down, we cannot hide the truth that bitcoin really affects the movement of all altcoins in the market,  but to move the altcoins without btc, its definitly not. I mean the balance of the value of every single altcoins will not recognized without bitcoin.
Because the USD price of majority of altcoins were pegged with bitcoin. The result of development by the developer will be affecting the price of altcoin to the bitcoin or ethereum as the major pair to the various market. USD will be only getting a little impact. Bitcoin still everything in this case.

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April 05, 2018, 04:30:14 AM
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With current options for buying alts with fiat, ethereum and bitcoincash as base currency. Theoretically that won't be a problem. But still more than 40% of the total market capitalization is held by bitcoin and when this giant moves, it's rare for others not to follow it.

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April 05, 2018, 05:12:21 AM
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I think not, during the time the altcoin began to emerge, the market was always tied up with bitcoin. however bitcoin is a reference of all altcoins including investment. this is why altcoin is highly dependent on bitcoin. of course this makes the market becomes not independent
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April 05, 2018, 05:15:55 AM
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Seeing that the whole market of cryptocurrencies purely build based on demand so if the market cap is so big and your money or your group's fund is too small, you are nothing and will not do anything.
What we can't do is controlling the market because most of use aren't whales who have  tons of money to manipulate the market. So saying "why don't we try it?" is rather useless in this case.

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April 05, 2018, 05:49:15 AM
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Hi to you all !!

Is it possible to make alts move without growth of BTC ?

I know it is possible just look at MC down to 280b today. And we can see a few coins going up when BTC is going down. Know many sell their alts moving to BTC when the market going down. What if we all stop doing this and just focus on the coins we believe in ?

If BTC drops 50% you will lose the same amount of $ if you hold BTC or another coin (know BTC will recover faster) if thats your excuse. I see many post topics about why do alts drop. But to answer that question do alts drop because most of the traders move their investments from alts to BTC when the market goes red.

Why dont we just stop doing this and change the crypto world together ?
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April 05, 2018, 05:51:05 AM
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As soon as they will add more pairs with fiat - altcoin the market will become less dependent from bitcoin. I believe is the only way.
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April 05, 2018, 06:10:38 AM
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Of course, altcoins can move without bitcoin, because now they are tied to all the crypto-currencies, I think it was not in vain to do it, but with a certain purpose, probably it is beneficial bitcoin
I think so too, because without Bitcoin, altcoin it can still be used as it should. but still the benchmark against the exchange rate becomes chaotic because so far bitcoin is a benchmark of the entire price of coin altcoin
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April 05, 2018, 06:12:50 AM
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You're really asking a very interesting question. I think and I am sure that of course, every project Creator ICO is simply obliged to think about it and be independent of the bitcoin and Ethereum exchange rate.
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April 05, 2018, 06:25:41 AM
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To do this, there must be preconditions. For example, innovations in altcoin. But this happens rarely
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