Possible to make alts move without BTC ?

[TropicalDog17]

I think that now it is possible, because Bitcoin is clearly not the same as before and its influence has clearly decreased on the market as a whole.

[kruzer200]

It's too early to say so, but I'm sure that in the near future the BTC will lose it’s influence on the market that it had before. Well, for now, everything is as before.

[CryptikEnigma]

I think that Bitcoin, in spite of the price drop, is still quite influential on the market, it can be traced by looking at the price of coins for today.

[lider1971]

I would like to believe that it is possible, but you can see how the price of Bitcoin affects all other altcoins. They are completely connected, but if BTC can survive the crisis to the best of its popularity, they do not.                     

[Yakapo]

Well its very difficult for that to happen , though its still in the early stages. everything will recover as soon as the market stabilizes the alts will regain too,

[sourish]

You are offering a mirage into a field that realises dreams. Alts can move without btc but that movement barely counts, as btc is definitely a better investment, and alt prices do depend on it.

[NeedIfFindIt]

The Bitcoin still holds because this is the first of the coins, but I think that it will not flow for long and soon we will see an independent market of altcoins.
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[IrReAr]

Is it possible to make alts move without growth of BTC ?
Why dont we just stop doing this and change the crypto world together ?

Bitcoin is the main coin in crypto world. Nowadays all altcoins are always based on Bitcoin price, the alts grow after a Bitcoin recovery period.  There is no coin that can replace Bitcoin role now.

[Yalovtsev]

Today it seems to work and Malasana,because now everything is linked and depends on the cue ball where the cue ball there and violas,and many now are in fear and are afraid to go out and buy it,because I think that they will lose that cue ball it is a Scam,and so on, we have a very well-there is a system of brainwashing,the media is the sworn enemy of ordinary people,and sredstvo favorite weapon of the rich and the government!!!

[xuan87]

Yes it is possible, some of the coin still going up despite BTC price falling down, but because of the most alt coin need to buy from BTC then BTC price will also be impacted, but yes some whale could find a way to pump a coin without bothering the btc

[Kurva]

Yes it is possible, some of the coin still going up despite BTC price falling down, but because of the most alt coin need to buy from BTC then BTC price will also be impacted, but yes some whale could find a way to pump a coin without bothering the btc

I never trade with BTC. And from what i know can you get all the same coins bought with ETH ? I not understand why anyone use BTC to trade for alts. I have bought BTC a few times from Coinbase with mistake. And it cost way to much just to transfer from Coinbase to Binance. This is why BTC is a NO NO to me. Stop using BTC to trade alts and move  $ around when the market disp and we will be good to go.

[vinayak2628]

When the price of Bitcoin drops, an altcoin becomes more valuable due to the relationship of it's worth being calculated in Bitcoin. If you thought of an altcoin's price remaining the same when Bitcoin drops, you will see that if for example BTC dropped from 10,000 to 5,000 that the alt coins BTC value goes quite high. It's then profitable to buy back into BTC. You could potentially double profits this way.

[Assyha]

It may be very difficult for me, because now we can say bitcoin as the brain of the other coins.
Ordinary if bitcoin down other coins also come down, because most of the exchange btc / other coins

[Kurva]

When the price of Bitcoin drops, an altcoin becomes more valuable due to the relationship of it's worth being calculated in Bitcoin. If you thought of an altcoin's price remaining the same when Bitcoin drops, you will see that if for example BTC dropped from 10,000 to 5,000 that the alt coins BTC value goes quite high. It's then profitable to buy back into BTC. You could potentially double profits this way.

Double profit or even ?

If BTC drops 50% and alts do the same. You lose the same amount of cash even if you hold BTC or alts. Know many of you not like tether. But i rather freeze my cash in tether over moving them to BTC. And buy back in when i think the dip is over.

[shams]

At this time bitcoin have a big Impact on the market as bitcoin dominance is around 45% on the market at this time. So if bitcoin goes down other coins also follow bitcoin as bitcoin is the king so, for now, it's not possible but after some time when the market will get stable and bitcoin dominance will go down then other coins will also be stable.

[bering]

if bitcoin fall then people more likely to choose the particular altcoin to get profit then i think this is normal because people want utilize falling trend from cryptocurrency but i think altcoins will only being followers of bitcoin so altcoins will never survive without bitcoin

[imteaz]

It is possible, but the problem is we all buy bitcoin first then invest in other coins. It's like the stock market, people buy stock with US dollar, if US dollar price goes down stock affected, the same thing with crypto. But I believe we will come out of it soon.

[Kurva]

It is possible, but the problem is we all buy bitcoin first then invest in other coins. It's like the stock market, people buy stock with US dollar, if US dollar price goes down stock affected, the same thing with crypto. But I believe we will come out of it soon.

So you buy BTC at coinbase and sent it to Binance ? Why not buy ETH and save your self for a lot of money ?

[Oasisman]

Hi to you all !!

Is it possible to make alts move without growth of BTC ?

I know it is possible just look at MC down to 280b today. And we can see a few coins going up when BTC is going down. Know many sell their alts moving to BTC when the market going down. What if we all stop doing this and just focus on the coins we believe in ?

If BTC drops 50% you will lose the same amount of $ if you hold BTC or another coin (know BTC will recover faster) if thats your excuse. I see many post topics about why do alts drop. But to answer that question do alts drop because most of the traders move their investments from alts to BTC when the market goes red.

Why dont we just stop doing this and change the crypto world together ?

Because the main currency in crypto world is Bitcoin, whether you like it or not , traders will always move thier investment to Btc. Without Bitcoin majority of the coins has no value. Have you experienced trading? Can you directly convert your alts into USD? As far as I know alts can be sold into Btc then USD or other fiat currency.

[Vladv26]

I dont think thats possible because every since I have entered in the world of cryptocurrencies,around 2013 all the altcoins follow the path of bitcoin when comes to price. Bitcoin is the main currency used and whenever you want to buy other coins from exchangers you have to firstly buy bitcoin then exchange it for altcoins. At least the cryptocurrencies in the top 50 have the same growth or fall as bitcoin. Probably a new coin can increase faster in price because at the beginning a lot of people buy lots of coins at the same time and the proce is increasing.