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Good afternoon, this post will express some of my personal views and of other people more qualified, and I will add some news that backup my view ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) As of this moment, according to coinmarketcap.com, bitcoin is valued at 6900$ (around 66% devaluation from the 20,000$ peak) and Ethereum 380$. Worst estimates place it around 6,000$ in the next days/weeks. The markets in Japan are watching closely the BTC price and buying up at the lows as Bitcoin is quite useful in the country. As Abra CEO Bill Barhydt stated “I talk to hedge funds, high net worth individuals, even commodity speculators. They look at the volatility in the crypto markets and they see it as a huge opportunity. Once that happens, all hell will break loose.” He said that these spikes were fueled by asian markets and we are yet to see western money enter this market (which may happen any moment). Many CEO's from western companies have announced only positive news for blockchain: Twitter CEO said Bitcoin can be the future currency, R3 Consortium has only released good news regarding their tests, Ripple had a crazy year so far as far as partnerships announced, Intel filed a patent for a device that improves cost/eficient of bitcoin mining by 35% (int for a future mining device in the coming months to rival the existing ones?), NVIDIA CEO too said that "(...) blockchain is here to stay."With Bitcoin leading the pack (even though Ethereum is running to overtake it maybe this year), the cryptomarket is expected, not only to rise, but to reach new records and beat new milestones in value. And with all the news mentioned above, this scenario becomes a little more realistic in the long term (that's why you hodl right?). The next thing we need to look out aswell is the altcoin market. The next Google may already have had their ICO and we don't have our buy in (I'm going to provide a list of projects that I believe will succeed) because, unfortunately, western companies have banned ICO advertisement (Google, Facebook and Twitter). But if there's a will, there's a way. I suggest using https://desearch.com or even https://duckduckgo.com - alternative search engines to Google - to help with the research (beware of scams, please). Why is it important to move your money between the different tokens?Some people have noticed that money usually flows from bitcoin and the main currencies to the altcoin market, after great bitcoin valorizations. This is where the opportunity for us, investors, presents itself to be capitalized on. A good hodler that buys in the cryptomarket now and takes advantage of these fluctuations should easily become very wealthy in the course of 7 years, admitting that the cryptomarket won't crash for some crazy reason (which should be very hard at this point). Best kind of projects?Edward Snowden, when inquired about cryptos, answered that "(...) the most interesting are the security tokens like Zcash." Personally, there are 2 kinds of way to look at a project: it's either good, because it is the first of it's kind and therefore the price could go up accordingly with that factor and some money can be made in such window, or it's either great, and has long term prospects as it will provide some service that will be powered by blockchain, and has a great team (which is usually listed on the project website) that will guide the project the way possible. Even though agreeing with Snowden as to the best projects are about security, not to mention that blockchain was created out of the cypherpunk movement, I can't overlook the fact that blockchain can revolutionize nearly all sectors of the service industry, and, therefore, influencing both primary and secondary sectors aswell, bringing reduced costs to our lives. My ListNagaCoin ~ 0.49$RequestNetwork ~ 0.16$ Polymath ~0.30$ Ardor ~ 0.22$ COSS Coin ~ 0.18$Bancor ~ 2.17$ SingularityNet ~ 0.11$SWFTC ~ 0.008$ Blackmoon ~ 0.55$ Sirin Labs ~ 0.23$Hicky (ICO completed recently, still not listed) NOTE I:I highlighted my favourite ones for either long term reasons or because pays dividends NOTE II:I did not provide the necessary links for the content I reported here but for anyone interested, a quick search will answer all questions Good luck out there ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Interesting list!
What about Mesh services, for example, Rightmesh?
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Desearch is just perfect! I've found it suddenly and really happy about that. Better than google once and ever ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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With Bitcoin leading the pack (even though Ethereum is running to overtake it maybe this year) I would be interested to hear reasons why people favor ethereum. Why does (eth) have so much hype behind it? Is (eth)'s variable supply, which can be printed without limit similar to fiat currencies, deemed superior to bitcoin's limited supply which is algorithmically limited? It might be said that eth is almost identical to fiat. Bitcoin could have an advantage in that its qualities contrast with fiat currencies in ways which could make bitcoin superior in terms of long term stability and reliability. My ListNagaCoin ~ 0.49$RequestNetwork ~ 0.16$ Polymath ~0.30$ Ardor ~ 0.22$ COSS Coin ~ 0.18$Bancor ~ 2.17$ SingularityNet ~ 0.11$SWFTC ~ 0.008$ Blackmoon ~ 0.55$ Sirin Labs ~ 0.23$Hicky (ICO completed recently, still not listed) NOTE I:I highlighted my favourite ones for either long term reasons or because pays dividends NOTE II:I did not provide the necessary links for the content I reported here but for anyone interested, a quick search will answer all questions Good luck out there ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Thanks for the list. Many have asked for crypto investing advice, specifically which alts are good and unfortunately I've never seen anyone in this section offer this type of advice before aside from a few who favored coins like stellar. Will try to go over the list, do some research and get back to you on this. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Thanks for the article but I think the title is an overstatement as you don’t give reason to defend why the market is going to increase by at least 20 in 7 years. I also believe it is going to increase but I don’t see why anyone who invests $5,000 will be a millionaire, rather than you feel so.
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This is how you do it if you are going to give a an prediction although we all know no one can predict the prices but what you did is give us a good basis we can rely on.
Im shocked that this kind of post is made by a newbie nice work! I have to merit you for this but I really dont have some anymore. +1
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Im shocked that this kind of post is made by a newbie nice work! .....
"Newbie " is just a rank. isn't it ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . Who can estimate his knowledge just by a rank ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Why anyone who invests 5,000$ now in bitcoin will be millionaire by 2025
Nice explanation.But I've got few questions for you. Is your lowest price level for BTC around $5000 level or can it go more down than that ?. What is the reason for highlighting the value $5000 ?. Don't you see any possibilities that btc can go down until $2000 level according to the technical analysis of the btc chart ?.
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What is the reason for highlighting the value $5000 ?
If I'm not wrong OP is not talking about the value of BTC but he/she telling you to invest $5000 in BTC then you can be a millionaire by 2025. Is your lowest price level for BTC around $5000 level or can it go more down than that ?.
You can't time the market and you or even experts also can't predict the accurate bottom so if you think the current price is good then start buying in small quantities and accumulate over some period. Don't you see any possibilities that btc can go down until $2000 level according to the technical analysis of the btc chart ?.
I don't think it will reach that level unless FUD continues for a long time.
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This is how you do it if you are going to give a an prediction although we all know no one can predict the prices but what you did is give us a good basis we can rely on.
Im shocked that this kind of post is made by a newbie nice work! I have to merit you for this but I really dont have some anymore. +1
There are newbie in this forum that is really a great poster than higher one. Because they have already backed up knowledge even before they start here like trading or mining. The OP seems to be optimist in the future of cryptocurrency. And I think, that will happen for those people who will keep holding in bitcoin for a long term period.
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April 10, 2018, 06:34:44 AM |
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Who knows... Also it depend with price BTC, when you'll buy it
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This theory will fall flat for this reason : The most popular Alt coins are directly being traded on exchanges and converted to fiat. As soon as a Alt coin generate enough transactions to become profitable, the big exchanges also pull them in and you can directly convert back and forth between that Alt coin and Fiat. You do not have to trade via BTC to Fiat and back, anymore. A lot of the coins mentioned like Ethereum and Ripple are already being traded directly, so they do not influence the Bitcoin price. Ripple and other GovCoins are taking some of Bitcoin's market share and that would cause a decline in the demand and also the price. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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"Why anyone who invests 5,000$ now in bitcoin will be millionaire by 2025" 5000usd to 1 million means 200x. That would mean a market cap of 22 trillion. It's a possibility but saying it will happen is just foolish. Way too many assumptions. Ripple had a crazy year so far as far as partnerships announced.
Which just shows how bad the market is at valuing anything related to new technologies. As of this moment, according to coinmarketcap.com, bitcoin is valued at 6900$ (around 66% devaluation from the 20,000$ peak) and Ethereum 380$. Worst estimates place it around 6,000$ in the next days/weeks. But as we all know, these estimates are just guesses and in reality no one has a clue. Obviously some estimates will be correct just by chance because there are so many of them. The next thing we need to look out aswell is the altcoin market. The next Google may already have had their ICO and we don't have our buy in (I'm going to provide a list of projects that I believe will succeed) because, unfortunately, western companies have banned ICO advertisement (Google, Facebook and Twitter). But if there's a will, there's a way. I suggest using https://desearch.com or even https://duckduckgo.com - alternative search engines to Google - to help with the research (beware of scams, please). Why is it important to move your money between the different tokens?Some people have noticed that money usually flows from bitcoin and the main currencies to the altcoin market, after great bitcoin valorizations. This is where the opportunity for us, investors, presents itself to be capitalized on. A good hodler that buys in the cryptomarket now and takes advantage of these fluctuations should easily become very wealthy in the course of 7 years, admitting that the cryptomarket won't crash for some crazy reason (which should be very hard at this point). Altcoins, tokens, ICO's protocols whatever we call them are very very risky. Sure they could make anyone rich but it isn't given. They are like startups. Knowing which ones will succeed and which won't is incredibly difficult. At least 9 out of 10 will eventually fail. Twitter CEO said Bitcoin can be the future currency And many have said that it can't. With Bitcoin leading the pack (even though Ethereum is running to overtake it maybe this year) Might as well flip a coin. My ListNagaCoin ~ 0.49$RequestNetwork ~ 0.16$ Polymath ~0.30$ Ardor ~ 0.22$ COSS Coin ~ 0.18$Bancor ~ 2.17$ SingularityNet ~ 0.11$SWFTC ~ 0.008$ Blackmoon ~ 0.55$ Sirin Labs ~ 0.23$Hicky (ICO completed recently, still not listed) NOTE I:I highlighted my favourite ones for either long term reasons or because pays dividends NOTE II:I did not provide the necessary links for the content I reported here but for anyone interested, a quick search will answer all questions Good luck out there ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Can you provide some reasons behind these choices?
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Why anyone who invests 5,000$ now in bitcoin will be millionaire by 2025
Nice explanation.But I've got few questions for you. Is your lowest price level for BTC around $5000 level or can it go more down than that ?. What is the reason for highlighting the value $5000 ?. Don't you see any possibilities that btc can go down until $2000 level according to the technical analysis of the btc chart ?. First and foremost, I do not see any technical analysis that can bring btc down to $2000 presently, and I do not know where you must have gotten that from. Do not get me wrong, not saying it is not possible, but the only possibility right now is hitting around $4000 which seems more of a probability, before even thinking lower. Still, OP never mentioned the price of bitcoin, but investing a certain amount in bitcoin in which he said investing about $5000 would give you a life you deserve in the nearest future which I totally believe is possible, most especially when mixing it up as a smart investor with altcoins.
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Good afternoon, this post will express some of my personal views and of other people more qualified, and I will add some news that backup my view ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) As of this moment, according to coinmarketcap.com, bitcoin is valued at 6900$ (around 66% devaluation from the 20,000$ peak) and Ethereum 380$. Worst estimates place it around 6,000$ in the next days/weeks. The markets in Japan are watching closely the BTC price and buying up at the lows as Bitcoin is quite useful in the country. As Abra CEO Bill Barhydt stated “I talk to hedge funds, high net worth individuals, even commodity speculators. They look at the volatility in the crypto markets and they see it as a huge opportunity. Once that happens, all hell will break loose.” He said that these spikes were fueled by asian markets and we are yet to see western money enter this market (which may happen any moment). Many CEO's from western companies have announced only positive news for blockchain: Twitter CEO said Bitcoin can be the future currency, R3 Consortium has only released good news regarding their tests, Ripple had a crazy year so far as far as partnerships announced, Intel filed a patent for a device that improves cost/eficient of bitcoin mining by 35% (int for a future mining device in the coming months to rival the existing ones?), NVIDIA CEO too said that "(...) blockchain is here to stay."With Bitcoin leading the pack (even though Ethereum is running to overtake it maybe this year), the cryptomarket is expected, not only to rise, but to reach new records and beat new milestones in value. And with all the news mentioned above, this scenario becomes a little more realistic in the long term (that's why you hodl right?). The next thing we need to look out aswell is the altcoin market. The next Google may already have had their ICO and we don't have our buy in (I'm going to provide a list of projects that I believe will succeed) because, unfortunately, western companies have banned ICO advertisement (Google, Facebook and Twitter). But if there's a will, there's a way. I suggest using https://desearch.com or even https://duckduckgo.com - alternative search engines to Google - to help with the research (beware of scams, please). Why is it important to move your money between the different tokens?Some people have noticed that money usually flows from bitcoin and the main currencies to the altcoin market, after great bitcoin valorizations. This is where the opportunity for us, investors, presents itself to be capitalized on. A good hodler that buys in the cryptomarket now and takes advantage of these fluctuations should easily become very wealthy in the course of 7 years, admitting that the cryptomarket won't crash for some crazy reason (which should be very hard at this point). Best kind of projects?Edward Snowden, when inquired about cryptos, answered that "(...) the most interesting are the security tokens like Zcash." Personally, there are 2 kinds of way to look at a project: it's either good, because it is the first of it's kind and therefore the price could go up accordingly with that factor and some money can be made in such window, or it's either great, and has long term prospects as it will provide some service that will be powered by blockchain, and has a great team (which is usually listed on the project website) that will guide the project the way possible. Even though agreeing with Snowden as to the best projects are about security, not to mention that blockchain was created out of the cypherpunk movement, I can't overlook the fact that blockchain can revolutionize nearly all sectors of the service industry, and, therefore, influencing both primary and secondary sectors aswell, bringing reduced costs to our lives. My ListNagaCoin ~ 0.49$RequestNetwork ~ 0.16$ Polymath ~0.30$ Ardor ~ 0.22$ COSS Coin ~ 0.18$Bancor ~ 2.17$ SingularityNet ~ 0.11$SWFTC ~ 0.008$ Blackmoon ~ 0.55$ Sirin Labs ~ 0.23$Hicky (ICO completed recently, still not listed) NOTE I:I highlighted my favourite ones for either long term reasons or because pays dividends NOTE II:I did not provide the necessary links for the content I reported here but for anyone interested, a quick search will answer all questions Good luck out there ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) It is possible because since it was start the price of bitcoin is just a little value like a piece of bread last 2009 look at the price value last December 2017 it was 18000 USD that's owe some, that was almost 9 years in the history right? so even the price now updated 6000 USD from the price high no other reason why bitcoin doesn't grow up until 2025 I know that Bitcoin is a good price value after 7 years. so I convince to many investor to invest in long term investment now.
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April 12, 2018, 10:21:08 AM |
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This is how you do it if you are going to give a an prediction although we all know no one can predict the prices but what you did is give us a good basis we can rely on.
Im shocked that this kind of post is made by a newbie nice work! I have to merit you for this but I really dont have some anymore. +1
Someone may be a newbie on this forum, but may not be a newbie investor generally or in cryptocurrency. It is a good thing he has shared it. I totally agree with the fact that the cryptocurrency space is about entering a new era which would really bring out a lot of opportunities for those who are extremely smart to take those opportunities and use it to their advantage and we the early dudes are the ones. Also, not all altcoins will last anyway, as some would die abruptly sooner than later, but for some the OP has mentioned, and most especially COSS, that is one token that I have had a lot of hopes for.
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This is how you do it if you are going to give a an prediction although we all know no one can predict the prices but what you did is give us a good basis we can rely on.
Im shocked that this kind of post is made by a newbie nice work! I have to merit you for this but I really dont have some anymore. +1
I totally agree with the fact that the cryptocurrency space is about entering a new era which would really bring out a lot of opportunities for those who are extremely smart to take those opportunities and use it to their advantage and we the early dudes are the ones. Why do you think that we are entering a new era?
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Nice one OP. Yes, the lists are actually interesting. For me, COSS has always been the number one so far on my list considering how the team are really working their butts off and how they are going to be bringing a lot of value into the community in the long run, so I invested hugely into this one and so far, I am not even regretting it a bit.
Nevertheless based on all the things you have said, every smart investor will know how to play their cards well in the cryptocurrency space, as there are lot of opportunities to gain.
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Thanks for the article but I think the title is an overstatement as you don’t give reason to defend why the market is going to increase by at least 20 in 7 years. I also believe it is going to increase but I don’t see why anyone who invests $5,000 will be a millionaire, rather than you feel so.
We are gradually entering a booming market and you would not need a soothsayer to even tell you that. A lot of people get clouded by the happenings now but really they are just a way to screw some people over in a market that is already about hitting the positive legal status globally which will usher in a lot of huge investors and would apparently set in demand for some projects and coins that are really screaming a lot of prospects like some of the ones the OP mentioned. every smart investor will know how to play their cards well in the cryptocurrency space, as there are lot of opportunities to gain.
Yes, there are unlimited opportunities and unlimited potential. In some view, there could be big chances for any one to become millionaire with $5000 now if he invests all into bitcoins. But I need to say one thing here. If not in 2025 then definitely in the year of 2040 or 2050.
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at all events in 2025, the price will continue to increase from now on. those who invest $ 5000 will definitely become millionaires in the years to come. I think the man who invests now, will be the most fortunate. can I hold this talk, if you do not believe it.
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Well the price is now $8200. So you are 18% up from when you made your post (when the price was $6900). Not quite millionaire territory, but a very nice return all the same. You'd be hard put to get a return like that from any other asset class.
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