Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Batch 1 - Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD)

[LovellaSai]

The price is decent enough but the main problem is the delivery time.

[redshiftexpensive]

How good is the power efficiency as that is something very important to know.

[floppydisk]

Inside must be GPU chips or one of the RX cards equitable, several of them packed into this.

[pubmongrelT]

There is no resale value and that is what makes it more interesting.

[madmartyk]

There is no resale value and that is what makes it more interesting.

Why is there no resale value?

[junkieforcoinzzzz]

There is no resale value and that is what makes it more interesting.

Why is there no resale value?

He doesnt know, he is just parroting what others have said without any information either.  The only thing they can maybe base that off is ETH eventually going POS..if and when.. Also he wants to buy one and wont pay 2k for it.

[equestrianbucking]

These estimates are very conservative and there are chances of them being worse on the power.

[HashZilla]

Delivery time is 50% of the warranty period.

Current payback period is 50% longer than the warranty.

You risk your money on the performance, the future returns and the likelihood it will live long enough to break even.

[greyday]

Delivery time is 50% of the warranty period.

Current payback period is 50% longer than the warranty.

You risk your money on the performance, the future returns and the likelihood it will live long enough to break even.

At the original asking price it was worth it, but honestly at the current price a GPU rig makes more sense to me (and is more energy efficient)...

[Longsnowsm]

What is the latest news on ETH going POS?  This first batch was very affordable, but it is a race against time.

[Marvell2]

What is the latest news on ETH going POS?  This first batch was very affordable, but it is a race against time.

diff up 5% this month and u still have all of may june and july to wait, by the time
these arrive i think eth might be the least profitable thing to mine especially if zcash doesn’t fork ,
even if it does fork thats still better to have gpus so u can switch algos

[adaseb]

What is the latest news on ETH going POS?  This first batch was very affordable, but it is a race against time.

POS is far away.


They basically posted the first batch of the Casper code and will be doing testing first. After the testing it will go live in the testnet network of ETH. I imagine that there will be tons of bugs that will need to be fixed first which will probably at least take a year.

Then it will go hybrid POS and then maybe a year later go full POS.

I would worry more about the ETH price and difficulty before POS launch date.

[NoIdeaAsWell]

1. Hashing algorithm: Ethash

    Power consumption: 800W

    Hashrate: 180MH/s

    These are the conservative estimates. We expect the miners to deliver higher performance and efficiency when they are ready to ship.



1. Specifications and other information of the Antminer Z9 mini are as mentioned below.

   Hashing algorithm: Equihash

    Power consumption: 300W

    Hashrate: 10k Sol/s ± 5%

   These are the conservative estimates. We expect the miners to deliver higher performance and efficiency when they are ready to ship.


The z9 is the MINI version of this miner.. where as the E3 looks like its definitely 2 antminers in one...

My concern is why the hell does this MINI far out preform the e3 ?  Surely this e3 should be at least double the hashrate when released and less power usage ? 

[inv1s1bl3]

Would it be better to buy the ethash or the equihash asic miner? Are ethereum talking about switching their algorithm to something else due to the asic miners? I was not able to find any such information.

[Longsnowsm]

Both the E3 and Z9 are big gambles.  There may not be enough time with either miner to even get the ROI.  Right now coins on equihash are talking fork.  So it makes the miner questionable at the moment.  If they don't fork GPU miners will start to leave in droves looking for a place to park their hash and the likely place is ethhash coins.  So up goes diff and down goes your chance of getting an ROI on the E3.

So I would only risk funds you are willing to write off at this point as a loss because the risk is pretty high.  Everything is in the air as the devs decide if they are going to fork or not. 

[BenRickert]

Both the E3 and Z9 are big gambles.  There may not be enough time with either miner to even get the ROI.  Right now coins on equihash are talking fork.  So it makes the miner questionable at the moment.  If they don't fork GPU miners will start to leave in droves looking for a place to park their hash and the likely place is ethhash coins.  So up goes diff and down goes your chance of getting an ROI on the E3.

So I would only risk funds you are willing to write off at this point as a loss because the risk is pretty high.  Everything is in the air as the devs decide if they are going to fork or not. 

There's not going to be any forks. All you folks spreading that need to read this article;

https://blog.sia.tech/the-state-of-cryptocurrency-mining-538004a37f9b

If you don't read this in it's entirety, you'll never understand the ineffectiveness of forking Coins, to combat ASIC. It DOESN'T WORK. I'm sorry to break it to you, but GPU mining  is dying and will be dead. I'm not happy about that, but it is the reality.

[greyday]

Both the E3 and Z9 are big gambles.  There may not be enough time with either miner to even get the ROI.  Right now coins on equihash are talking fork.  So it makes the miner questionable at the moment.  If they don't fork GPU miners will start to leave in droves looking for a place to park their hash and the likely place is ethhash coins.  So up goes diff and down goes your chance of getting an ROI on the E3.

So I would only risk funds you are willing to write off at this point as a loss because the risk is pretty high.  Everything is in the air as the devs decide if they are going to fork or not. 

There's not going to be any forks. All you folks spreading that need to read this article;

https://blog.sia.tech/the-state-of-cryptocurrency-mining-538004a37f9b

If you don't read this in it's entirety, you'll never understand the ineffectiveness of forking Coins, to combat ASIC. It DOESN'T WORK. I'm sorry to break it to you, but GPU mining  is dying and will be dead. I'm not happy about that, but it is the reality.

Not saying anything about the E3 or Z9, but it worked pretty well for Monero.

[BenRickert]

Both the E3 and Z9 are big gambles.  There may not be enough time with either miner to even get the ROI.  Right now coins on equihash are talking fork.  So it makes the miner questionable at the moment.  If they don't fork GPU miners will start to leave in droves looking for a place to park their hash and the likely place is ethhash coins.  So up goes diff and down goes your chance of getting an ROI on the E3.

So I would only risk funds you are willing to write off at this point as a loss because the risk is pretty high.  Everything is in the air as the devs decide if they are going to fork or not. 

There's not going to be any forks. All you folks spreading that need to read this article;

https://blog.sia.tech/the-state-of-cryptocurrency-mining-538004a37f9b

If you don't read this in it's entirety, you'll never understand the ineffectiveness of forking Coins, to combat ASIC. It DOESN'T WORK. I'm sorry to break it to you, but GPU mining  is dying and will be dead. I'm not happy about that, but it is the reality.

Not saying anything about the E3 or Z9, but it worked pretty well for Monero.

For now. That's the point of the article. You really should read it. It's the most accurate and honest article ever written about mining to date. The Author is a Sia Dev. Hardware is infinitely more flexible than Software in these coins. The Hardware manufacturers can adjust their specs to circumvent these forks fairly quickly. They can't just "keep forking". The "Monero Story" isn't over yet.

[gotminer]

Both the E3 and Z9 are big gambles.  There may not be enough time with either miner to even get the ROI.  Right now coins on equihash are talking fork.  So it makes the miner questionable at the moment.  If they don't fork GPU miners will start to leave in droves looking for a place to park their hash and the likely place is ethhash coins.  So up goes diff and down goes your chance of getting an ROI on the E3.

So I would only risk funds you are willing to write off at this point as a loss because the risk is pretty high.  Everything is in the air as the devs decide if they are going to fork or not. 

There's not going to be any forks. All you folks spreading that need to read this article;

https://blog.sia.tech/the-state-of-cryptocurrency-mining-538004a37f9b

If you don't read this in it's entirety, you'll never understand the ineffectiveness of forking Coins, to combat ASIC. It DOESN'T WORK. I'm sorry to break it to you, but GPU mining  is dying and will be dead. I'm not happy about that, but it is the reality.

Not saying anything about the E3 or Z9, but it worked pretty well for Monero.

For now. That's the point of the article. You really should read it. It's the most accurate and honest article ever written about mining to date. The Author is a Sia Dev. Hardware is infinitely more flexible than Software in these coins. The Hardware manufacturers can adjust their specs to circumvent these forks fairly quickly. They can't just "keep forking". The "Monero Story" isn't over yet.

Agree with that. 

[Xanotick]

Delivery time is 50% of the warranty period.

Current payback period is 50% longer than the warranty.

You risk your money on the performance, the future returns and the likelihood it will live long enough to break even.

Will the warranty start from the delivery date?