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April 26, 2018, 05:49:31 PM
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Without manipulators, there will not be such up and down movements, because most altcoyins are now growing from such actions.
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April 26, 2018, 09:22:35 PM
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All markets in the world are manipulated, from Forex to Stocks to Gold to Crypto. The game is rigged, if you want to play you have to learn inside a rigged market. If you understand the rules of manipulation, you can even end up trading better.

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April 26, 2018, 09:30:23 PM
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On the other hand market manipulation brings a lot of money and profit to many people. You are just one of those people who didn't successfully got their profit, it's all about risk when it comes to this market, what matters most is how you will approach these manipulations.
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April 26, 2018, 09:42:13 PM
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Yes it should be but unfortunately that's not possible because you cannot stop and stop those who manipulate the market since they have a very well plan that they are following in order to get what they want. Exchangers can't bann any account just because he bought or sold a coin at a different price than the market because everyone has the right to do anything they want with their coins. The whales that are manipulating the market are very strong, they have lots of money and they can do a lot of things.

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April 26, 2018, 09:44:59 PM
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I agree that market manipulation should be prosecuted, but this is not going to happen without any serious regulations. I would say that this is impossible at this time.
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April 26, 2018, 09:49:25 PM
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Market manipulation is and will always be part of crypto. One of the things people like about this space is the anonymity. How would we prosecute those who are anonymous? In the future, if every exchange required KYC for trades, this will hurt the overall market and the anonymous nature.

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April 26, 2018, 09:51:44 PM
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We are still in wild wild west of crypto world with little regulation. Unless that comes, deal with, whales will always manipulate market, just need to have strong hands.
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April 26, 2018, 09:56:32 PM
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Here is an idea for regulation work groups if anyone is listening. I am sick and tired of manipulators bringing losses to so many.
This is one of the many reasons why regulators across the globe are cracking down upon crypto. The market is heavily unregulated and many are targeted by scammers. This year has been a busy one, most importantly for those looking for clear guidance on regulatory matters. A lot of new investors were caught up in the crypto frenzy when the price mooned above $10,0000 for the first time, those people then sold after the crash, deflating the prices on the market.

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April 26, 2018, 10:13:53 PM
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Hardly should be in my eyes. Why should somebody be prosecuted for something that isn't illegal? Insider trading is illegal in stock markets, but there is no regulation here which means it isn't illegal. That is like you getting a speeding ticket on the autobahn because a cop felt like giving you a ticket. It shouldn't happen, and it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever as it goes against what the current laws reflect.

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April 26, 2018, 10:16:47 PM
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Here is an idea for regulation work groups if anyone is listening. I am sick and tired of manipulators bringing losses to so many.
Manipulators everywhere, make peace with it and play according to their rules. You can not do anything against them, of course there are markets where manipulator actions are limited but they have always been, are and will be

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April 26, 2018, 10:20:31 PM
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Here is an idea for regulation work groups if anyone is listening. I am sick and tired of manipulators bringing losses to so many.
If you can't beat them, join them. Lot of traders are doing this method since they can't compete to those manipulators, all they have to do is to become smart and wise enough to outplay them but for those who do not know how to play it like a pro. They will suffer from the wrath of losing their investments, and also for listening to the FUD they really showed that they were weak to hold.

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April 26, 2018, 10:35:28 PM
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Everybody knows that the biggest criminals are in Wall street, but no one prosecute any of them unless is so scandal that is impossible to hide. This here is totally unregulated market. Who will prosecute, who will investigate? Everything is anonymous.

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April 26, 2018, 10:39:42 PM
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Market manipulation becomes one of the chapters set forth in Law Number 8 of 1995 concerning the Capital Market ("Capital Market Law"), namely in Chapter XI. As regulated in Article 91 of the Capital Market Law, market manipulation is an action undertaken by any party directly or indirectly in order to create a false or misleading image of a trade, market situation, or stock price in a securities exchange.

 
Meanwhile, the definition of cornering the market (cornering) according to the Blacks Law Dictionary is:

 
"A" corner (cornering the market) "is a condition arising when a given quantity of commodity is sold for future delivery within a given period of can be purchased in the market."

 
Within the scope of the Capital Market in Indonesia, the above definition is in accordance with the provisions of Article 92 of the Capital Market Law, which reads:

 
"Each Party, either individually or jointly with another Party, is prohibited from conducting two (2) Securities transactions or more, either directly or indirectly, causing the price of Securities in the Stock Exchange to remain, rise or decrease with the intention of affecting the Parties another to buy, sell or hold Securities. "

 
Subject to the provisions of the foregoing article, the prohibited elements of action are:

- Conducting two or more securities transactions, either directly or indirectly;

- Causes the price of securities in the fixed, rising, or falling stock exchanges;

- For the purpose of influencing other parties to buy, sell, or hold securities.

 
As stipulated in Article 104 of the Capital Market Law, any party violating the provisions of Article 92 above shall be subject to imprisonment of a maximum of 10 (ten) years and a maximum fine of Rp 15 billion.
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April 26, 2018, 10:41:29 PM
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The last couple days have proofed your point, there is definitely a problem with market manipulation and I also believe that this should be tackled.
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April 26, 2018, 10:44:31 PM
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Learn to manimulate by yourself and you'll start fighting aganst regulators
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April 26, 2018, 10:57:50 PM
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I do not know why some people find joy in making others to cry. I just kept on wondering that, how would they derive joy in making others to cry. Manipulators, definitely should be made to pay for their ill actions. Cryptocurrency should be allowed to take a smooth course.
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April 26, 2018, 11:00:19 PM
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90-99% of all the Bitcoin is owned by 1% of all the users.
Bitcoin is an improvement to the monetary system only in efficiency. The main issue of the previous fiat currencies is more abundant in Bitcoin which is the concentration of the elites wealth making all other users slaves for the system.
Fair distribution and manipulation proof are the most important elements needed.
Also note the volatility as a way they increase their holdings through manipulation.
The entire crypto shere has been infiltrated not only bitcoin.

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Not sure if that was true until you can try to prove it by give any reliable source about that. According to this site https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html and less than 90% of bitcoin has owned by less than 1% of total address that has already registered in the bitcoin blockchain.
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April 26, 2018, 11:02:51 PM
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Marketing manipulation should indeed be prosecuted, but again the manipulators dont do it openly and leave evidence enough to prosecute them. the final decision on what to do with the coin is also not coaxed hence mking it very difficult to prosecute

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April 26, 2018, 11:08:39 PM
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Actually, in "real world", stock markets are regulated if we compare them to crypto markets. You can't pump and dump there, because it is illegal to do so. So, trading stocks is a little bit more secure, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't invest in crypto. To each their own. But I agree with you, such actions should be prosecuted, but then this brings regulation and crypto world becomes less anonymous. Well, you can't have everything, they say. Smiley

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April 27, 2018, 07:01:39 AM
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Here is an idea for regulation work groups if anyone is listening. I am sick and tired of manipulators bringing losses to so many.
Yes it should be necessary to think of a third party to at least make sure the project owner completes the job as promised.
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