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November 08, 2013, 10:28:01 PM
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ok my order says processing so i guess you got all the payment now.

i dont see on the site where i put where i want my btc payments to go
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If you didn't get an email requesting the address you haven't been entered into the spreadsheet yet.
Ok. in that case even mine hasn't been entered yet. I was probably one of the first ones to buy in this group buy. Do I need to do anything?
I have two orders under your forum name each was sent an email with a note added to the order requesting a payout address, PM me with the address.
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November 09, 2013, 01:26:28 AM
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Ok. in that case even mine hasn't been entered yet. I was probably one of the first ones to buy in this group buy. Do I need to do anything?
I have two orders under your forum name each was sent an email with a note added to the order requesting a payout address, PM me with the address.
Thanks. PM sent.
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November 09, 2013, 02:46:28 AM
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November 09, 2013, 06:32:59 AM
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Still available?
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November 09, 2013, 09:53:33 AM
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I repeat my questions from yesterday becouse of no answer.
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Hello thomas_s
1.
From yesterday till today i see on my account:
Order #563 made on November 7, 2013. Order status: processing

When will I receive previously mentioned email that will ask me about my payment address? (just in case i put it below):
16NRWZq3jJHuusJGof1fe9K81QQiWXs8rg

2.
Will the R13 start to hash today?

3.
How often will be mined BTC shares send to ours wallets?

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November 09, 2013, 10:41:08 AM
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I repeat my questions from yesterday becouse of no answer.
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Hello thomas_s
1.
From yesterday till today i see on my account:
Order #563 made on November 7, 2013. Order status: processing

When will I receive previously mentioned email that will ask me about my payment address? (just in case i put it below):
16NRWZq3jJHuusJGof1fe9K81QQiWXs8rg

2.
Will the R13 start to hash today?

3.
How often will be mined BTC shares send to ours wallets?

Hi Pablo,

Sorry for the delay. We're not intentionally ignoring people; everyone in the co-op is just really, really busy (and also have other jobs...at this point).

1. A consequence of our world's lowest prices and free tools which helps lead to these low prices, is well, crappiness from these free tools. The orders have to be processed and confirmed by hand at this point (keeping in mind that some orders required multiple payments and can require a bit of detective work when this happens). The back end is terrible, and Thomas was in the middle of getting the details on refunding about 180 BTC correct, so that was the biggest priority in the free time he had.

We actually had to slow down the refunds. In our rush to get BTC refunds back as quickly as possible, about $1K worth of BTC was accidentally sent (which was fortunately returned by an honest co-op member).

We're also victims of our own success in that we've had so many sales come in to our site, that it's really been a PITA to try to keep up (while also planning, holding daily board meetings, and registering sub companies for our far flung and varied pro crypto ventures we're setting up in various parts of the BTC economy).

To deal with this site backlog and fundamental site problems: we also had a long mtg. yesterday with a site designer who is a fellow GB Coordinator who runs his own GBs and is a website designer. He does great work and we're proud to be associated with him. Work should begin this weekend on our professional Version 2.0 site, with much, much better order tracking and back end tools which will make all of our lives much simpler, and should help reduce the time between processing and when orders show as complete.

In the future we also plan on adding pro cloudhashing to our pro site.

2. I have a preliminary report of R13. Unfortunately, due to broken boards from the R9-12 Bullet Run (sometimes you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs), we will not be able to get to full hashrate on R13 until about Thursday/Friday next week. The BA replacements for the broken boards are shipping Monday.

We will NOT be compensating R13 via BTC for lost hashrate; we are an at-cost Miners Cooperative that gives you the world's lowest prices and most exclusive deals, and are already compensating members for lost hashrate due to Bullet Run issues that arose in R9-12.  We cannot afford to give charity for R13 on top of the compensation we are already doing for R9-12.

You will have two options to resolve this:

A. You can request a refund and we will process it as quickly as we can.

B. You can wait until Friday/Saturday Nov 16/17, when R13 should be fully up and running. For your patience in waiting an additional week, bobsag3 will give R13 a free month of miner hosting, which is currently worth $200.

Please let us know what you decide. If you don't send a PM to thomas_s. requesting a refund, then we will assume that you're ok with the default B option which gives you a $200 bonus in the form of free miner hosting for the first month.

There still are no better deals for ASIC hardware around IMO.

3. We've decided on a 1st of the month and 15th of the month payout schedule for DZ MC GBs.
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November 09, 2013, 10:53:38 AM
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2. I have a preliminary report of R13. Unfortunately, due to broken boards from the R9-12 Bullet Run (sometimes you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs), we will not be able to get to full hashrate on R13 until about Thursday/Friday next week. The BA replacements for the broken boards are shipping Monday.

This is pretty unclear. Is there a reduced hash rate until Th/Fri or no hashing at all?
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November 09, 2013, 10:56:25 AM
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2. I have a preliminary report of R13. Unfortunately, due to broken boards from the R9-12 Bullet Run (sometimes you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs), we will not be able to get to full hashrate on R13 until about Thursday/Friday next week. The BA replacements for the broken boards are shipping Monday.

This is pretty unclear. Is there a reduced hash rate until Th/Fri or no hashing at all?


There is no hashing of R13 at all, at the moment. The amount of broken boards in the Bullet Run that are being replaced is equivalent to R13's hashrate.

There were also sales he had to get out for people that bought full boards at higher prices outside of our GB, so that also reduced his stock.

You can request a refund OR wait a week to start hashing and get the equivalent of a $200 miner hosting bonus for waiting.
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November 09, 2013, 11:11:42 AM
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Hi Pablo,

Sorry for the delay. We're not intentionally ignoring people; everyone in the co-op is just really, really busy (and also have other jobs...at this point).

1. A consequence of our world's lowest prices and free tools which helps lead to these low prices, is well, crappiness from these free tools. The orders have to be processed and confirmed by hand at this point (keeping in mind that some orders required multiple payments and can require a bit of detective work when this happens). The back end is terrible, and Thomas was in the middle of getting the details on refunding about 180 BTC correct, so that was the biggest priority in the free time he had.

We actually had to slow down the refunds. In our rush to get BTC refunds back as quickly as possible, about $1K worth of BTC was accidentally sent (which was fortunately returned by an honest co-op member).

We're also victims of our own success in that we've had so many sales come in to our site, that it's really been a PITA to try to keep up (while also planning, holding daily board meetings, and registering sub companies for our far flung and varied pro crypto ventures we're setting up in various parts of the BTC economy).

To deal with this site backlog and fundamental site problems: we also had a long mtg. yesterday with a site designer who is a fellow GB Coordinator who runs his own GBs and is a website designer. He does great work and we're proud to be associated with him. Work should begin this weekend on our professional Version 2.0 site, with much, much better order tracking and back end tools which will make all of our lives much simpler, and should help reduce the time between processing and when orders show as complete.

In the future we also plan on adding pro cloudhashing to our pro site.

2. I have a preliminary report of R13. Unfortunately, due to broken boards from the R9-12 Bullet Run (sometimes you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs), we will not be able to get to full hashrate on R13 until about Thursday/Friday next week. The BA replacements for the broken boards are shipping Monday.

We will NOT be compensating R13 via BTC for lost hashrate; we are an at-cost Miners Cooperative that gives you the world's lowest prices and most exclusive deals, and are already compensating members for lost hashrate due to Bullet Run issues that arose in R9-12.  We cannot afford to give charity for R13 on top of the compensation we are already doing for R9-12.

You will have two options to resolve this:

A. You can request a refund and we will process it as quickly as we can.

B. You can wait until Friday/Saturday Nov 16/17, when R13 should be fully up and running. For your patience in waiting an additional week, bobsag3 will give R13 a free month of miner hosting, which is currently worth $200.

Please let us know what you decide. If you don't send a PM to thomas_s. requesting a refund, then we will assume that you're ok with the default B option which gives you a $200 bonus in the form of free miner hosting for the first month.

There still are no better deals for ASIC hardware around IMO.

3. We've decided on a 1st of the month and 15th of the month payout schedule for DZ MC GBs.

Ok so if I understand it right, 1 share of R13 (that is 8.34 - 10GH/s) will be hashing since Fri/Sat at the previously promissed hashrate yes? And our fee that should be 2.5% will  be 0% for the first month from date R13 starts working?

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November 09, 2013, 11:30:09 AM
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I knew that the number 13 is unhappy   Undecided

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November 09, 2013, 12:17:31 PM
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If people refund and there are open slots let me know Smiley  I trust you guys to get it up and right.
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November 09, 2013, 02:09:37 PM
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You will have two options to resolve this:

A. You can request a refund and we will process it as quickly as we can.

B. You can wait until Friday/Saturday Nov 16/17, when R13 should be fully up and running. For your patience in waiting an additional week, bobsag3 will give R13 a free month of miner hosting, which is currently worth $200.

Please let us know what you decide. If you don't send a PM to thomas_s. requesting a refund, then we will assume that you're ok with the default B option which gives you a $200 bonus in the form of free
I hope refund will be the same amount of BTC?
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November 09, 2013, 05:41:20 PM
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I just sent an PM I need a refund I cant wait 1 week.
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November 09, 2013, 05:55:57 PM
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You will have two options to resolve this:

A. You can request a refund and we will process it as quickly as we can.

B. You can wait until Friday/Saturday Nov 16/17, when R13 should be fully up and running. For your patience in waiting an additional week, bobsag3 will give R13 a free month of miner hosting, which is currently worth $200.

Please let us know what you decide. If you don't send a PM to thomas_s. requesting a refund, then we will assume that you're ok with the default B option which gives you a $200 bonus in the form of free
I hope refund will be the same amount of BTC?

Refund will be exactly how much BTC you paid- I have not touched the money. DZ and Thomas_s hold all the money till the hardware is ready, then I get paid.

I am really sorry about this, but with R9-12 just getting to full speed, I would prefer to refund people than make them wait in the dark.
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November 09, 2013, 06:00:02 PM
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Make sure to reopen the buy on the site as people get refunded.
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November 09, 2013, 06:02:50 PM
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 Smiley
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November 09, 2013, 06:11:06 PM
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I have 1 share in 13  and  11 in 9-12.

my order number in buy 13 is #522  1 share.   I will ask for this to be refunded. I placed the order on Nov. 5th 2013

https://blockchain.info/tx/5251818dcde4555af3c7cb7171562266be52661c586a7e88d4118a88a3a120ca  


 my btc  paid was .4765….     I would only want .45 BTC  back  the coop can keep the rest.


my refund address is



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November 09, 2013, 06:12:15 PM
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Make sure to reopen the buy on the site as people get refunded.
There are no extra's as people get refunded oversales will be moved to the R13 group.
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November 09, 2013, 06:14:04 PM
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Sounds like bob received a lot of defective boards. Has black arrow addressed them so that it will not continue? Asking as will more RMA's cut into getting the equipment up in time to meet the next deadline?

Bob said earlier that he had enough equipment to get R13 started. Does this change mean he is getting more failures which means keeping the existing GBs and sales satisfied.

I suggest that no more R13 sales be continued until enough equipment can be guaranteed to work. That is due to the possibility of more RMAs in the future.

Can someone address the seemingly low hash rate for the latest batch of bit fury chips.  The blue furies seem to have a high number of hardware errors causing a high rejection and lower hash rate.

Also, how long will those that have shares in be allowed to request a refund. It looks like not all order numbers have been processed.

Mahalo
Order#'s not processed that are "processing" and haven't received an email are oversales, they will be moved to R13 as spots open up in the order of payment, if you are an oversale order and just want a refund you can have it.
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November 09, 2013, 06:24:06 PM
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Sounds like bob received a lot of defective boards. Has black arrow addressed them so that it will not continue? Asking as will more RMA's cut into getting the equipment up in time to meet the next deadline?

Bob said earlier that he had enough equipment to get R13 started. Does this change mean he is getting more failures which means keeping the existing GBs and sales satisfied.

I suggest that no more R13 sales be continued until enough equipment can be guaranteed to work. That is due to the possibility of more RMAs in the future.

Can someone address the seemingly low hash rate for the latest batch of bit fury chips.  The blue furies seem to have a high number of hardware errors causing a high rejection and lower hash rate.

Also, how long will those that have shares in be allowed to request a refund. It looks like not all order numbers have been processed.

Mahalo

I thought I did- then encountered some more failures I did not know about.
BA is fixing them and getting me replacements- no problem. But Its not your responsibility as the buyer to carry the risk I took. Hence the refund. R13 is also closed.

These boards are all actually running great- on the functioning boards  (~83 so far) they average between 39 and 41 per board.

Refund will be open untill I have the hardware we need, or all refunds have been processed.
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