how many BTC is enough?

[jubalix]

its crazy to think just over a year ago bitcoin was at $3-$4

i agree...its pretty crazzy....the higher is goes the more force it exerts on making people use it or miss out on that business, it says to companies here is x billion market cap on the table, that can be sent around infinitely, do you want some of this business? Do want to store some wealth to the consumer?

[crazy_rabbit]

As someone who was around in 2010, getting back over 10000 is my goal.

how are you pursuing this? get getting more fiat in to buy bitcoin? Or something else? Trading? Investments? new business pursuits?

[600watt]

Interesting thought experiment I came up with today that may help you answer the "how much is enough" questions:

Imagine you meet an honest and generous billionaire that loves to gamble, just for the lulz.  He says to you:  "I will flip this coin and you get to call it in the air.  If you win, I will pay you 20X what you bet.  If you lose, you lose all of what you bet.  I will accept any bet you can credibly make but you only get one shot."

So, how much would you bet?  Answer in dollars, BTCs, etc., or as a % of your net worth.  

Assume the coin toss is fair, and that he will pay up instantly if you win.  You can only bet money that you actually have.

i like your bet: 50 000,-

a 50/50 chance to make a million or lose all money a have.
would i include my coins in this bet ? hell no, they will 20fold anyway. and is there a 50/50 % risk of losing all (complete crash of bitcoin to zero) ?

btw: how high is the risk of btc going down for good ? 10% ? 1 % ?  well i am sure it is less than 50%, that´s why i wouldn´t bet my coins.

[BitchicksHusband]

It can only be given as a % of your portfolio.
I would say 30-50% would be fair for holding long term. 50% is pretty adventurous imo.

The problem with bitcoin is that, as it goes up so does it's % of the portfolio. I find myself at 50% now and i think that is way too much.

I also don't want to sell...

Bitcoin is creeping close to 90% for me... only vs my 401k, but that's the only other investment I've ever had.

Well, look on the bright side.  Thanks to the Winklevoss twins, soon you'll be able to go to 100%. 

[BitchicksHusband]

Interesting thought experiment I came up with today that may help you answer the "how much is enough" questions:

Imagine you meet an honest and generous billionaire that loves to gamble, just for the lulz.  He says to you:  "I will flip this coin and you get to call it in the air.  If you win, I will pay you 20X what you bet.  If you lose, you lose all of what you bet.  I will accept any bet you can credibly make but you only get one shot."

So, how much would you bet?  Answer in dollars, BTCs, etc., or as a % of your net worth.  

Assume the coin toss is fair, and that he will pay up instantly if you win.  You can only bet money that you actually have.

Uhh, guys.  I'm pretty sure this is a parable for bitcoin ownership.

[wachtwoord]

Interesting thought experiment I came up with today that may help you answer the "how much is enough" questions:

Imagine you meet an honest and generous billionaire that loves to gamble, just for the lulz.  He says to you:  "I will flip this coin and you get to call it in the air.  If you win, I will pay you 20X what you bet.  If you lose, you lose all of what you bet.  I will accept any bet you can credibly make but you only get one shot."

So, how much would you bet?  Answer in dollars, BTCs, etc., or as a % of your net worth.  

Assume the coin toss is fair, and that he will pay up instantly if you win.  You can only bet money that you actually have.

i like your bet: 50 000,-

a 50/50 chance to make a million or lose all money a have.
would i include my coins in this bet ? hell no, they will 20fold anyway. and is there a 50/50 % risk of losing all (complete crash of bitcoin to zero) ?

btw: how high is the risk of btc going down for good ? 10% ? 1 % ?  well i am sure it is less than 50%, that´s why i wouldn´t bet my coins.

I'd bet probably 20-30% of my net worth. That would be the scariest 10 seconds of my life though ... (and I would not enjoy the experience )

[NUFCrichard]

I'd bet everything I could afford to lose. I'd still be able to live if I lost but I would only just have enough to cover rent, bills + food for the next few months.

[piramida]

Imagine you meet an honest and generous billionaire

Right

[lightfoot]

20% of my net worth. That would be the optimal inflection point based on 50% chance of 20x gain/50% chance of 100% loss.

An interesting thought experiment, not pertinent to BTC since I think the number is closer to 80% fail/20% win.

C

[Peter R]

Interesting thought experiment I came up with today that may help you answer the "how much is enough" questions:

Imagine you meet an honest and generous billionaire that loves to gamble, just for the lulz.  He says to you:  "I will flip this coin and you get to call it in the air.  If you win, I will pay you 20X what you bet.  If you lose, you lose all of what you bet.  I will accept any bet you can credibly make but you only get one shot."

So, how much would you bet?  Answer in dollars, BTCs, etc., or as a % of your net worth.  

Assume the coin toss is fair, and that he will pay up instantly if you win.  You can only bet money that you actually have.

i like your bet: 50 000,-

a 50/50 chance to make a million or lose all money a have.
would i include my coins in this bet ? hell no, they will 20fold anyway. and is there a 50/50 % risk of losing all (complete crash of bitcoin to zero) ?

btw: how high is the risk of btc going down for good ? 10% ? 1 % ?  well i am sure it is less than 50%, that´s why i wouldn´t bet my coins.

I'd bet probably 20-30% of my net worth. That would be the scariest 10 seconds of my life though ... (and I would not enjoy the experience )

20-30% of my net worth is what I answered personally too.

[mb300sd]

As someone who was around in 2010, getting back over 10000 is my goal.

how are you pursuing this? get getting more fiat in to buy bitcoin? Or something else? Trading? Investments? new business pursuits?

Trading, investing, maybe a business if I run across anything promising. Its more of a that's be nice, but probably not gonna happen goal.

[minimalB]

I guess anyone holding 1 whole bitcoin is gonna be very happy in 10-20 years.

[600watt]

As someone who was around in 2010, getting back over 10000 is my goal.

how are you pursuing this? get getting more fiat in to buy bitcoin? Or something else? Trading? Investments? new business pursuits?

Trading, investing, maybe a business if I run across anything promising. Its more of a that's be nice, but probably not gonna happen goal.

you are the guy bringing the girls to our party ! i´d call that a very promising idea... 

[bits4books]

I guess anyone holding 1 whole bitcoin is gonna be very happy in 10-20 years.

I hope that's the way it is.

It kind of sucks that this is the way that bitcoin is, though. I personally don't ever want to use any for trading or buying as bitcoin was intended to be used, because if I just wait a little bit longer it may be worth twice as much in a few days..

I feel like something has to go wrong if everyone is just buying as an investment.

[wormbog]

"640k mXBT ought to be enough for anybody." --Bill Gates

[Alty]

I'd like to own ten times more than the 21 I'm sitting on now, but to get that many is going to take an investment that would take me years to claw back should Bitcoin plummet to zero.

Is it worth it? Who knows?


However I keep thinking that if Bitcoin keeps growing then there probably is not much point in investing anymore.

Even 10 Bitcoin should be life changing if Bitcoins growth continues (as it has done in the past) for the next few years.

Then perhaps even later all you'll need is 1 BTC to set you up for life.


So the dilemma, is it worth investing allot more fiat with a risk of loosing everything that would take years to recover?

or

Do you just sit tight with a few bitcoins because that should be enough to be happy with in the future and if they lose value, you can just move on to the next thing stress free.... which in itself is priceless!


It's also worth remembering that things that seem too good, usually don't work out as expected in the end!

or

All good things come to an end? The thing is knowing when.

Could BTC be the exception to the rule?

So perhaps it's worth being a little bit careful and not going all in with an amount you can't afford to lose.


My goal is 210 but I think 10+ is good if you hold till the market cap hits 500 billion.

[ajax3592]

50 should be good, because max the bitcoins can soar to is $4000-$5000.

Also you'd have to hold them for atleast 10 years.
 

[600watt]

50 should be good, because max the bitcoins can soar to is $4000-$5000.

Also you'd have to hold them for atleast 10 years.
 

if you would have written "1 year" i´d agree.   

[BitchicksHusband]

50 should be good, because max the bitcoins can soar to is $4000-$5000.

Also you'd have to hold them for atleast 10 years.
 

Most analysis shows $5000 by the end of next year.  And the max is generally considered to be somewhere between $10,000 and $300,000.

[FTWbitcoinFTW]

Most analysts are bitcoiners sooooo maybe it's not 100% accurate