Forget about exchanger search! Use BestChange!

[brett6934]

The eXch exchange phishing site has been active for some time on their old domain with the .cc extension. With a simple search, one of the top 5 results is a link to the Bestchange page with an exch listing page that probably dates back to 2015. Although this exchange has been delisted from Bestchange monitoring and, as far as I understand, the cooperation will not be renewed, it would still be good if you at least remove phishing links and anything that could direct innocent users to the wrong page.

On this page https://www.bestchange.com/exch-exchanger.html
where the title says:

Code:

Exch exchanger – reviews, info, feedback (exch.cc)

Also, on the page itself, among some feedback, there is a link that is malicious today.

Their official statement for the .cc domain

exch[.]cc is a phishing link and does not belong to eXch anymore, don't be scammed by using it! (By the way can you please edit the links in your message?)

bestchange is scam itself, no point of asking them of doing that, i am positive this is phishing scam is their child

avoid using bestchange they will fuck you up, evidence is here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3309245.msg65137757#msg65137757

I know about the bad relationship between BC and eXch, but this is a completely different field. Only inexperienced users will suffer the damage.
Even though exch is disabled on BC, this is what a search for the term exch looks like in some cases. That's enough for a scam.

i am experienced user and i suffered, i lost 20k usdt because if bestchange activity

i have posited above all the links to evidence on how Bestchange scamming people

strongly recommend avoiding this scumbags at all, never even used it otherwise you will loose your money

I see no reason for BC to keep this knowingly with them, because it could be considered as promotion of a scam and then it could be considered as offering incorrect information.

LOL, it is well know fact that bestchange is umbrella scam running scum exchangers

recommend reading this article https://fuckedbitcoin.com/2024/07/17/bestchahge-%D0%B8-aml-scam-%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BD%D0%BE/

[Best_Change]

They probably don't even care because;
1. The service was delisted on Bestchange in 2016. So the status is "disabled". A user can not visit the phishing site through the link on Bestchange which is now in active
2. Bestchange and Exch are sworn enemies for obvious reasons 

I know about the bad relationship between BC and eXch, but this is a completely different field. Only inexperienced users will suffer the damage.
Even though exch is disabled on BC, this is what a search for the term exch looks like in some cases. That's enough for a scam.


I see no reason for BC to keep this knowingly with them, because it could be considered as promotion of a scam and then it could be considered as offering incorrect information.

We understand that having a website listed in a directory even after ceasing collaboration with them may pose certain risks. This is precisely why we use such text in the snippet, so that search engines explicitly state that we no longer work with them. This page remains accessible so that users can read reviews from others or share their own experiences of working with them.

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We understand that having a website listed in a directory even after ceasing collaboration with them may pose certain risks. This is precisely why we use such text in the snippet, so that search engines explicitly state that we no longer work with them. This page remains accessible so that users can read reviews from others or share their own experiences of working with them.

But the page contains links and information to a phishing page on a domain with a .cc extension, which is not under the control of the regular exch.cx exchange.
In this particular case, you are directly harming your users, because you present the phishing domain as the official page of an exchange. It is enough just to remove all links or names where the .cc extension is mentioned (I also saw a few in the reviews.). You do not have to delete feedback or any reviews.

If a user like @brett6934 ever appears and accuses you of complicity in fraud, you can't say it's not up to you, because the exchange is delisted and you don't follow it, so you don't have accurate information.
This very discussion can be considered that you have been informed, and if you don't remove it, the only thing that can be concluded is that you are deliberately hiding it and neglecting the welfare of your users.

I'm a little disappointed that you need any further explanation at all for things like this. I thought you had zero tolerance for any kind of fraud.

[paid2]

Fortunately exch(dot)cc is now offline and suspended so this has become unnecessary.

On another note, one might have wished that BestChange had been at least a little bit proactive in removing a phishing link without hiding behind archiving pretexts, but who can be surprised?

This once again demonstrates the quality of their standards.

[hugeblack]

We understand that having a website listed in a directory even after ceasing collaboration with them may pose certain risks. This is precisely why we use such text in the snippet, so that search engines explicitly state that we no longer work with them. This page remains accessible so that users can read reviews from others or share their own experiences of working with them.

There are at least two options in this case:

- Add a tag as a phishing link.
- Remove access to any site URL.

I'm not talking about eXch here, but in general, as long as you're no longer working with them and the page is still available for users to read other people's reviews, it's best to remove the ability to click links from that page if you don't have time to track phishing links.

[Best_Change]

But the page contains links and information to a phishing page on a domain with a .cc extension, which is not under the control of the regular exch.cx exchange.
In this particular case, you are directly harming your users, because you present the phishing domain as the official page of an exchange. It is enough just to remove all links or names where the .cc extension is mentioned (I also saw a few in the reviews.). You do not have to delete feedback or any reviews.

Yes, thank you for the note. We didn't immediately pay attention to the fact that we're talking about textual mentions. It's just that the link for delisted services is disabled by default.

If we're talking about the link, it previously belonged to a legitimate service, which is evident even from the administrator's responses to reviews mentioning the domain. This fact didn't raise any concerns for anyone.

It's likely that access was lost after the cooperation ended. We will pass the information to the moderation team, and they will edit or remove all suspicious links. However, it's worth noting that not a single text link is active on our service, so there is no direct redirect from this page to a phishing site.

Fortunately exch(dot)cc is now offline and suspended so this has become unnecessary.

On another note, one might have wished that BestChange had been at least a little bit proactive in removing a phishing link without hiding behind archiving pretexts, but who can be surprised?

This once again demonstrates the quality of their standards.

There are at least two options in this case:

- Add a tag as a phishing link.
- Remove access to any site URL.

I'm not talking about eXch here, but in general, as long as you're no longer working with them and the page is still available for users to read other people's reviews, it's best to remove the ability to click links from that page if you don't have time to track phishing links.

It is also quite ironic to see complaints about these links from people openly promoting this exchange on the forum. We reiterate that despite the presence of links in the review texts, there is no direct redirection to these resources on our website. Nevertheless, we will make an effort to edit the information to ensure that it doesn't raise any concerns, even as plain text.

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Yes, thank you for the note. We didn't immediately pay attention to the fact that we're talking about textual mentions. It's just that the link for delisted services is disabled by default.

If we're talking about the link, it previously belonged to a legitimate service, which is evident even from the administrator's responses to reviews mentioning the domain. This fact didn't raise any concerns for anyone.

It's likely that access was lost after the cooperation ended. We will pass the information to the moderation team, and they will edit or remove all suspicious links. However, it's worth noting that not a single text link is active on our service, so there is no direct redirect from this page to a phishing site.

Although you don't have a direct link, the behaviour of the average site visitor can always be unpredictable. Here is an example, maybe this is your user, for example:

If this domain is not yours : exch dot CC - [SCAM link]
Then im just lost my funds right now   Rest in peace 0.0027 btc

If you are a reliable service that strives to provide accurate and useful information, you should have no doubts or any reason to withhold information that leads to a phishing site.

It is also quite ironic to see complaints about these links from people openly promoting this exchange on the forum.

I believe that what is in someone's signature is completely irrelevant, but the message that is written.

[brett6934]

Bestchange turned into scammer itself and deliberately promoting, advertising scam exchanger

check this out
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179115.msg65193227#msg65193227
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404706.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5523844.0

as you may see bestchange trying to cover scammers and protect them, this is outrages

stay away from bestchange otherwise you will be properly fucked scammed

[Best_Change]

brett6934, we are neither a regulator nor an intermediary in such transactions. We are an informational resource with sufficient credibility to act as a mediator in such disputes, but we do so voluntarily, not due to any legal obligations or reputational risks.

To reiterate, these are not our terms but the stance of the exchanger, which is based on the website’s rules that you agreed to before the exchange. As the exchanger states, once you complete the KYC procedure under AML, your funds will be unfrozen and returned.

[Best_Change]

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[JeromeTash]

We have been waiting for a number of updates on your platform for a while now. When you started having an active signature campaign around here, you even had a link for different members to make suggestions about your platform. Other suggestions were made in this thread, and you promised to add some of them on the next update. When is the next update? It feels like waiting forever.

I hope you do not do to us what the forum administrator did when he made us to wait for over 10 years for the new forum software only to recently say he had given up.

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We have been waiting for a number of updates on your platform for a while now. When you started having an active signature campaign around here, you even had a link for different members to make suggestions about your platform. Other suggestions were made in this thread, and you promised to add some of them on the next update. When is the next update? It feels like waiting forever.

I hope you do not do to us what the forum administrator did when he made us to wait for over 10 years for the new forum software only to recently say he had given up.

You can’t really compare a nonprofit platform like this forum with a profit-oriented platform. Competition in the field of exchange aggregators is becoming increasingly fierce and serious, and in the long run, it’s not enough to live off past glory. 
Still, perhaps to us users it doesn’t seem like there’s any improvement here, while for the BC administration, everything looks fine.

[brett6934]

The eXch exchange phishing site has been active for some time on their old domain with the .cc extension. With a simple search, one of the top 5 results is a link to the Bestchange page with an exch listing page that probably dates back to 2015. Although this exchange has been delisted from Bestchange monitoring and, as far as I understand, the cooperation will not be renewed, it would still be good if you at least remove phishing links and anything that could direct innocent users to the wrong page.

On this page https://www.bestchange.com/exch-exchanger.html
where the title says:

Code:

Exch exchanger – reviews, info, feedback (exch.cc)

Also, on the page itself, among some feedback, there is a link that is malicious today.

Their official statement for the .cc domain

exch[.]cc is a phishing link and does not belong to eXch anymore, don't be scammed by using it! (By the way can you please edit the links in your message?)

instead of removing this scam link and hell the community to fight scam they prefer listing fake exchanger, bestchange choose to ignore it

Do you think it is coincidence?

i would not be surprised if bestchange itself is running this fraud

[CreepyUncleJoe]

We continue to introduce you to the convenient tools you can find on BestChange.com...

Would be nice if you could add a field for each listed exchanger showing whether they're using their own liquidity or acting as a reseller (e.g. doing the swap via Binance, Whitebit, etc.). That info would help users a lot when choosing where to exchange - especially for those looking to avoid the specific risks associated with AML/KYC measures.

[brett6934]

We continue to introduce you to the convenient tools you can find on BestChange.com...

Would be nice if you could add a field for each listed exchanger showing whether they're using their own liquidity or acting as a reseller (e.g. doing the swap via Binance, Whitebit, etc.). That info would help users a lot when choosing where to exchange - especially for those looking to avoid the specific risks associated with AML/KYC measures.

r u joking, mate? they will never do it!!!

if they do it they will loose excuse to block people's money under intergalactic interplanetary AML scam rules they invented

BestChange turned into scam way, strongly avoid trusting them or any of their scam exchangers they promote

why do you think they remove Exch.cx no KYC or AML exchanger

read this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5423039.20

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404706.60

https://miningclub.info/threads/legalnaja-legalnost-obmennikov-s-bestchange-ili-aml-skam-na-osnovanii-zakonnoj-zakonnosti.109268/page-2

https://dtf.ru/u/2490151-vladimir-knyazev/3510352-bestchange-skam-kak-naiti-nadezhnuyu-alternativu

https://dzen.ru/a/ZytqiZm6T3lAr0b3

https://youtu.be/lsTG0mz69W4

[Best_Change]

Would be nice if you could add a field for each listed exchanger showing whether they're using their own liquidity or acting as a reseller (e.g. doing the swap via Binance, Whitebit, etc.). That info would help users a lot when choosing where to exchange - especially for those looking to avoid the specific risks associated with AML/KYC measures.

Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately, additional labels would overload the user interface and could potentially cause confusion. For this reason, we only apply labels to certain exceptions to the rule, rather than to widespread trends.

The vast majority of exchangers operate as intermediaries for exchanges or payment gateways — this is no secret, as it is simply how the market functions. In essence, this is still a form of P2P (peer-to-peer) exchange, but with larger and more reliable counterparties, eliminating the need for strict KYC procedures on exchanges prior to conducting a trade.

Identity verification requests are extremely rare and only occur when an AML (anti-money laundering) trigger is activated due to a high-risk transaction.

if they do it they will loose excuse to block people's money under intergalactic interplanetary AML scam rules they invented

BestChange turned into scam way, strongly avoid trusting them or any of their scam exchangers they promote

Please, stop spreading falsehoods and misinformation. The exchanger involved in your transaction is prepared to return your XMR as soon as you complete the required KYC procedure under AML regulations, in accordance with the exchange rules stated on the website where you conducted the transaction.

By spreading lies, you will not achieve the return of your funds. You may continue indefinitely, but until you provide the necessary documentation requested by the exchanger, they will be unable to initiate a refund request with the platform that froze your transfer.

[m2017]

I would like to know if BestChange checks the "cleanliness" of the bank cards and transfers used by the exchangers listed on this aggregator. In the modern world, I believe, the most popular and widespread way to exchange cryptocurrencies is to exchange crypto -> transfer to a bank card and vice versa. But unscrupulous exchangers can use "dirty" money when transferring to bank cards.

Let's imagine a hypothetical situation:
A N-user exchanged crypto for money. A certain amount of money is sent to his bank card. But it turns out that this money came from a dropper card or, even worse, it is stolen or fraudulently obtained money. This N-user is drawn into a chain of criminal events without knowing it, because of which he finds himself in a vulnerable position before the law.

How does BestChange try to protect its users from such negative consequences?

[brett6934]

The vast majority of exchangers operate as intermediaries for exchanges or payment gateways — this is no secret, as it is simply how the market functions. In essence, this is still a form of P2P (peer-to-peer) exchange, but with larger and more reliable counterparties,

.... no secret?? LOL!!! what a bullshit, seriously?

Tell this bullshit fairy story to someone else but not this forum users, i don't think there are idiot to believe you in any sense.

Market operates under drops or fake accounts, your scam exchangers uses others people accounts in order to facilitate their unlicensed activity this is the only way they can run their unregistered business, stop bullshit people and take some fucking responsibility for covering and promoting this fraud.

They(your scam exchangers) buy bank accounts using the dark market or specific forums and use it untill it is blocked.

there dedicated teams(Drop-sellers) who's business is to open and resell bank accounts using low income people(called Drops) sometimes this people struggling with and drug additions and they are ready to sell their credentials for peanuts just to get by.

Identity verification requests are extremely rare and only occur when an AML (anti-money laundering) trigger is activated due to a high-risk transaction.

really??? lol and how is that related to monero you and your fucking scam exchanger stole from me? what high-risk transaction bullshit excuse?

Identity verification requests are extremely rare and only occur when an AML (anti-money laundering) trigger is activated due to a high-risk transaction.

what a fucking lair you are, i am sick of you lies

people of bitcoin talk, strongly recommend reading this uncovering Bestchange AML SCAM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404706.0

https://dzen.ru/a/Z7CVX-FVFXai0tO-

DO not send any money to any of scam exchangers promoted by Besctange, you will be scammed

[Best_Change]

I would like to know if BestChange checks the "cleanliness" of the bank cards and transfers used by the exchangers listed on this aggregator. In the modern world, I believe, the most popular and widespread way to exchange cryptocurrencies is to exchange crypto -> transfer to a bank card and vice versa. But unscrupulous exchangers can use "dirty" money when transferring to bank cards.

Let's imagine a hypothetical situation:
A N-user exchanged crypto for money. A certain amount of money is sent to his bank card. But it turns out that this money came from a dropper card or, even worse, it is stolen or fraudulently obtained money. This N-user is drawn into a chain of criminal events without knowing it, because of which he finds himself in a vulnerable position before the law.

How does BestChange try to protect its users from such negative consequences?

Thanks for the great question! You’re absolutely right — this issue has become more acute in the crypto community over the past few years. However, thanks to exchangers (with our exchange rate monitoring service playing a direct role) leveraging reputation systems for self-regulation, there are safeguards in place. Any suspicious activity will eventually surface in transaction histories via the feedback system and could lead to an exchanger being delisted from our platform.

We closely monitor the standing of all listed services and even track transfers post-exchange. Users can report problems with an exchanger at any time — no matter how much time has passed — and we’ll investigate thoroughly. Unlike P2P markets, where reputation carries little weight and creating a new account is trivial, exchangers have far more at stake — their entire business is on the line.

[Best_Change]

The vast majority of exchangers operate as intermediaries for exchanges or payment gateways — this is no secret, as it is simply how the market functions. In essence, this is still a form of P2P (peer-to-peer) exchange, but with larger and more reliable counterparties,

.... no secret?? LOL!!! what a bullshit, seriously?

Tell this bullshit fairy story to someone else but not this forum users, i don't think there are idiot to believe you in any sense.

Market operates under drops or fake accounts, your scam exchangers uses others people accounts in order to facilitate their unlicensed activity this is the only way they can run their unregistered business, stop bullshit people and take some fucking responsibility for covering and promoting this fraud.

They(your scam exchangers) buy bank accounts using the dark market or specific forums and use it untill it is blocked.

there dedicated teams(Drop-sellers) who's business is to open and resell bank accounts using low income people(called Drops) sometimes this people struggling with and drug additions and they are ready to sell their credentials for peanuts just to get by.

Identity verification requests are extremely rare and only occur when an AML (anti-money laundering) trigger is activated due to a high-risk transaction.

really??? lol and how is that related to monero you and your fucking scam exchanger stole from me? what high-risk transaction bullshit excuse?

Identity verification requests are extremely rare and only occur when an AML (anti-money laundering) trigger is activated due to a high-risk transaction.

what a fucking lair you are, i am sick of you lies

people of bitcoin talk, strongly recommend reading this uncovering Bestchange AML SCAM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404706.0

https://dzen.ru/a/Z7CVX-FVFXai0tO-

DO not send any money to any of scam exchangers promoted by Besctange, you will be scammed

We have provided you with comprehensive answers regarding your situation. The exchanger expects you to submit documents from the standard, commonly accepted list of required documents for conducting a high-risk money laundering check. Once you provide the documents to the exchanger, they will be able to initiate the process of unfreezing the transfer on the custodial service holding their cryptocurrency so that you can receive the transfer back.

Additionally, we would like to add that your attempts to drag us into your dispute with the exchanger by causing a scandal and tarnishing our reputation will not succeed. Our position as a mediator in this matter remains firm: the exchanger is legally entitled to request a limited set of documents for processing the refund. Your funds have not been stolen — they are waiting for you as soon as you provide the required information.