[INFO] Breached or Scam coin makers list

[minerjones]

that's exactly it.  I can search the address, but it is either invalid, or has never received a transaction.

here are a few pictures... have at it.  as far as I can tell, the top right corner looks maybe a bit wrinkled, but other than that, it doesn't look tampered.  still sealed. 

https://imgur.com/xhnewKQ
https://imgur.com/6fa9nKv

  If I wrote it down correctly  1L5kLbXZjGynCmaPL47LqDEKEhGiFCJm


  Your right no transactions ever reached this addy https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1L5kLbXZjGynCmaPL47LqDEKEhGiFCJm

  I even ran it as if that 5 that almost looks like an S 1LSkLbXZjGynCmaPL47LqDEKEhGiFCJm

  https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1LSkLbXZjGynCmaPL47LqDEKEhGiFCJm


  Still nothing.

   Scary indeed...thanks for sharing

The coin IS funded.
Not sure if this is well known but these coins only list 32 of the 34 characters of the public address.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1LSkLbXZjGynCmaPL47LqDEKEhGiFCJmZX

[1714693572]

1714693572

[1714693572]

1714693572

[Honeybadger2014]

Wow ok, so it may be legit after all… if you don’t mind me asking, how did you figure out the last 2 digits of the address?  I didn’t realize they were missing

[minerjones]

Wow ok, so it may be legit after all… if you don’t mind me asking, how did you figure out the last 2 digits of the address?  I didn’t realize they were missing

I used a first bits lookup using krog's suggestion of trying both with the "5"... which turns out to be an "S"

[krogoth]

that's exactly it.  I can search the address, but it is either invalid, or has never received a transaction.

here are a few pictures... have at it.  as far as I can tell, the top right corner looks maybe a bit wrinkled, but other than that, it doesn't look tampered.  still sealed. 

https://imgur.com/xhnewKQ
https://imgur.com/6fa9nKv

  If I wrote it down correctly  1L5kLbXZjGynCmaPL47LqDEKEhGiFCJm


  Your right no transactions ever reached this addy https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1L5kLbXZjGynCmaPL47LqDEKEhGiFCJm

  I even ran it as if that 5 that almost looks like an S 1LSkLbXZjGynCmaPL47LqDEKEhGiFCJm

  https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1LSkLbXZjGynCmaPL47LqDEKEhGiFCJm


  Still nothing.

   Scary indeed...thanks for sharing

The coin IS funded.
Not sure if this is well known but these coins only list 32 of the 34 characters of the public address.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1LSkLbXZjGynCmaPL47LqDEKEhGiFCJmZX

  Interesting...never knew that! Thanks

  

[Bullion-n-BTC]

I’d like to add BCmint.com to the list. Ordered 2x DIY physical bitcoin from them. Paid in bitcoin as that’s the only option on site. Got “confirmation of order” email and never heard a single word from them. After multiple unanswered emails and messages I’ve come to terms with the fact that they’ve scammed me / taken my money with no intention of sending my coins. DO NOT BUY FROM BCMINT.COM

[Todamont]

As others have mentioned, Titan Bitcoin should be on the wall of shame. They stole one BTC from me and it looks like they got 15 from another victim.

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369583.0

[micro23]

Edited my comment:

Just making sure this stays fresh so people get alerted.

Tim is on the run and the website is shut down. (It has been said that he is sweeping the coins there is no verifiable proof of this just rumors). Be careful everyone. Might want to claim your coins if you have not already. I did claim my PK successfully yesterday, the 2FA coins are unfortunately unclaimable at this current point in time.

https://www.titanmint.com/ is still online

https://www.titanbtc.com/ has been down, thats where you check and claim your 2fa coins.

[buckrogers]

Like the fellow above said, might wanna put Titan on here Looks like tim is MIA and things are going downhill. Website down to claim the 2fa coins.

You sure you and

the fellow above

arent one and the same? sounds like it.

[krogothmanhattan]

  Lets add COLDKEY to this  list!  Please read

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434506.0

[ChiBitCTy]

 Lets add COLDKEY to this  list!  Please read

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434506.0

Thanks for updating this. Important for everyone who has funded cold keys to know to PEEL THEM RIGHT NOW.

Just my 2, but I think it’s time Titan Mint be added to the front page. IMO there’s likely many people who own titan 2FA coins that don’t know about things yet.  Why I think it’s important it’s on page one and not buried in these other pages that most will likely not dig through.

Thx Krogs

[Kryptowerk]

Coldkey Scam Reference



NOTE: THIS IS MY ATTEMPT TO BRING SOME STRUCTURE INTO THE CHAOS CAUSED BY YOGG AND HIS SWEEP-SCAM.
THIS POST IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION but mostly done for now


Approximate Timeline
- prior to the sweep: unfunded cards, loans from various folks, website down, massive delay in delivering cards, attempt to give away responsibility by giving CEO position to cygan: in retro looks like a clear forshadowing of the sweep-scam*¹
- Jan 12, 2023, 11:22:00 AM (UTC/ New York Time +5): First Sweeps Appear on the Blockchain - Link (Transaction)
- Jan 12, 2023, 02:59:50 PM (UTC/ New York Time +5): First shoutout by YodasRedRocket <3 about sweeps on some of the halving coldkey cards detected. - Link (Forum)
- Jan 13, 2023, 01:03:49 AM (UTC/ New York Time +5): Background info of what "happened" coming from a phone call with yogg by owlcatz. Link (Forum)
- Jan 13, 2023, 09:07:31 AM (UTC/ New York Time +5): More background info directly from yogg, posted by Mopar. - Link (Forum)
- Jan 15, 2023, 00:20:20 AM (UTC/ New York Time +5): Even more info on conversations with yogg after the theft occured (by Owl). - Link (Forum)
- Jan 17, 2023, 05:06:10 AM (UTC/ New York Time +5): More info from owl (direct + indirect contact with yogg). - Link (Forum)
- April 3rd, 2023: Scumboy sweeps Playtoshis, phone calls Xprim prior to his latest crime. More info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447391.0

- GENERAL: More info on the timeline of swept funds by LoyceV

*¹: Please note, all this data was never in one place. People giving loans were not aware that other loans were already given but not paid back to Yogg.
The unfunded cards were never noticed. Yogg time and time again made excuses for deliver-delays. The website shutdown was supposed to only last a short time.
Only after the sweeping of funds happend on Jan 12, people started bringing the pieces together, slowly uncovering the full extend of the situation.



Confirmed Losses
a) List of affected addresses:
- Silver Halving Coldkeys swept: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/c073634c862353b7a90303d52806defba55cac63a86762213fcb949b74a5573b
- Raffle Funds Stolen: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qr88xt0jurmpvv93l66zquk5srkqntpva9ug5m4
- Some (?) Gold Halving Coldkeys swept: Reference 1 & Reference 2

b) List of Unfunded Coldkey Cards*²:
- some historic RYR cards
- History 2021-03 #15
- 1x History 3 card set: 2021.2
- History 2020-2 #31
- CK history Oct 2019 #8
- 4 cards [?] (more info needed to confirm)
- more tba ?

*²: some cards' funding had to be triggered via the website - which is now unavailable. - I believe that some cards were never funded BEFORE this new web-funding-mechanism was implemented.
However, since the webpage coldkey.eu is now unavailable, this part is at least on the same level of a SCAM as Titan mint (no access for 2FA coins).

c) Other Losses:
- loans that should have been returned long time ago (to Mopar, Polymerbit, Agrawas, DarkStar, Becassine and possibly others) - Ref 1, Ref 2, Ref 3: loan address
- 1 year+ uncompleted orders of coldkeys
- almost complete loss for all PREMIUMS paid for coldkeys / collectible value is in the bin now
- more tba ?

List of *never delivered* keys (note - this is just a tiny excerpt from *one* person)

Coldkey Genesis Edition anon
cold key 10th ann polymerbit design
History coldkey May(funded Euro 50 )
History coldkeys June(funded Euro 50 )
Coldkey Crypto Bond ltd set of 3
History Coldkey February 2021(Funded Euro 50)
History Coldkey March 2021(Buyer Funded)
History Raffle Series 1 ticket

List of *never funded* keys (note - this is just a tiny excerpt from *one* person)

Cold key 0.001
cold key 0.005
cold key 0.01
History cold keys ltd to 64 January(funded Euro 50 )
History coldkey  February(funded Euro 50 )
History coldkey  March(funded Euro 50 )
History coldkey  April(funded Euro 50 )
History coldkey  July(funded Euro 50 )
History coldkey  August(funded Euro 50 )
History coldkey September(funded Euro 50 )
Halving Coldkey 0.00625 x 2 set Copper 65-128

Community efforts To Compensate People Affected by The Scam
- Offer by former CEO cygan to refund victims of the scam (see also this post)
- Polymerbit Offering Voucher OR Replacement For 10 Year Note
- A4 Print for DAEMON historic cold key owners
- Smoothie organizing a Charity Auction with the support of the Community <3
- raritycheck offering 25 of his silver coins to victims


Misc Discussions
- Check your Cryptobonds cards with help from Krogoth
- Stop Creating Maker-Funded Collectibles? by DaveF
- Krogoth's Personal Losses
- Total Value of *just the history coldkeys* (full set) by jcga
- multi-sig as possible solution to prevent scams in the future?
- Community Opportunity by Est
- Technical Guide to Multi-Sig for Collectible Makers


Helpful Resources
- Samurai Sentinel: Public Address Tracker (Android)
- Satpile: Public Address Tracker (iOS)
- How to Import/Sweep Private-Keys with Coinomi wallet
- How to Import/Sweep Private-Keys with Ballet wallet
- Broadcast Cryptobond Transaction (from the mega-big QR)
- Check your Firstbits
- When you choose a wallet (for example to sweep a private key) check its integrity here: https://walletscrutiny.com/


Publicly Known Address-Lists For Coldkeys
- First Loaded Coldkeys


Important Info
- all coldkeys' private keys are potentially compromised -> It is strongly recommended that you sweep your coins into a secure wallet that only you can access
-> To do so you can use a veriety of wallets, for example: Mycelium, Coinomi (for smartphones), Electrum (desktop), Balletwallet and more


Personal observations
Despite the monetary losses including loans, raffle-funds, sweeped cards, never-funded-cards and the huge amount of premiums that coldkey-collectors suffered from, this event has left some scars.
Yogg was once regarded as a highly trusted, friendly, tech-savy, innovative maker and innovator in the collectible space. His exit scam came as shock to many in the collectible community and especially those once close to him.


tldr: Overview of all info known so far regarding the exit-scam performed by Yogg on his Coldkey project.




Moved from here

[OgNasty]

In contrast to this list of scammers and their scams, perhaps it might be useful or at least the yin to this yang to make a list of coin makers that haven’t scammed. Maybe rank them by date and suspected liabilities so people can see who has respected the trust that this community has given them the longest. I think it would be great to display that not everyone in this community is trying to make a quick buck and some are worthy of the trust they’ve received over what spans more than a decade now for some.

[krogothmanhattan]

In contrast to this list of scammers and their scams, perhaps it might be useful or at least the yin to this yang to make a list of coin makers that haven’t scammed. Maybe rank them by date and suspected liabilities so people can see who has respected the trust that this community has given them the longest. I think it would be great to display that not everyone in this community is trying to make a quick buck and some are worthy of the trust they’ve received over what spans more than a decade now for some.

         I think that is a very good idea! We can start with Bitbills and work are way from there. I wish I had the time and energy to do that. Perhaps someone out there can and will do so soon.

        Like you said showing people still have loaded items from 2011 will have a VERY GOOD IMPACT on our hobby.

[OgNasty]

In contrast to this list of scammers and their scams, perhaps it might be useful or at least the yin to this yang to make a list of coin makers that haven’t scammed. Maybe rank them by date and suspected liabilities so people can see who has respected the trust that this community has given them the longest. I think it would be great to display that not everyone in this community is trying to make a quick buck and some are worthy of the trust they’ve received over what spans more than a decade now for some.

         I think that is a very good idea! We can start with Bitbills and work are way from there. I wish I had the time and energy to do that. Perhaps someone out there can and will do so soon.

        Like you said showing people still have loaded items from 2011 will have a VERY GOOD IMPACT on our hobby.

Sometimes you have to plant your own flowers I guess. 

[BobbyCoins]

In contrast to this list of scammers and their scams, perhaps it might be useful or at least the yin to this yang to make a list of coin makers that haven’t scammed. Maybe rank them by date and suspected liabilities so people can see who has respected the trust that this community has given them the longest. I think it would be great to display that not everyone in this community is trying to make a quick buck and some are worthy of the trust they’ve received over what spans more than a decade now for some.

This instantly reminded me of the DIY grading proposal I drafted a while ago where 'Trust' & 'Collectible Features' need to be gathered by community effort.

I guess the 'Historical Timeline of the Physical Bitcoin & Cryptocurrency Collectibles'-thread is a good start but it will take some more OGs and their knowledge to put together a reliable database of all coin makers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5174217.0

Happy to help anyway wherever I can help because the topic itself is crucial for our hobby.

Edit.

[tothemoonsands]

As of 11/25/23, I am owed a refund of $2610.00 from The Bitcoin Penny Company. Refund via PayPal failed/was cancelled. Please follow more information here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456990.msg63217329#msg63217329

[tothemoonsands]

As of 11/25/23, I am owed a refund of $2610.00 from The Bitcoin Penny Company. Refund via PayPal failed/was cancelled. Please follow more information here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456990.msg63217329#msg63217329

As of 12/7/23, I am still owed a refund of $2610.00. I have not had any direct correspondence from BitcoinPenny.

[MoparMiningLLC]

I would like to add the satpulse coins XRP Army coins and project to the list of possibly breached coins.

the reasons are as follows:

1. keys were supposedly created by Carribbean Treasures. Patrick Hakim
2. a user under @abckrypto posts multiple pictures on twitter/X showing him and his son laying out the coins and states he son helped him assemble the coins.
3. when asked about this on twitter/x I was first asked to remove my comments and then less than 2-3 minutes later was blocked.


at this point there is possible exposure of the keys to 4 3 different people - the creator and the 3 2 in the room during assembly.

I am NOT saying these 4 3 would scam anyone - I am simply stating that this would be a huge issue if the coins are somehow breached or funds stolen simply because who would be responsible? There are too many with exposure to the keys in my opinion.

@abckrypto has since deleted the post on Twitter/X I did manage to have one of the pics showing him and his son laying out the coins for assembly.



It could be 100% possible that he had everyone leave the room during actual keys being placed on the coins. Not sure, I did ask this but was quickly blocked and the post deleted.

Once someone shows their project to have a possible breach - there should be transparency not blocking/deleting of evidence.

Anyways - this was brought to my attention by others here and I was trying to follow up with the @abkrypto to get further info and that was not successful.

adding picture of the Twitter/X dm I received prior to being blocked and post deleted.




edit: was made aware this project was not the satpulse bitcoin coins but instead involved the XRP Army coins. - strike thrus and edits added above as necessary.

[owlcatz]

Ha I knew something was funked up with those coins. 50k XRP got too expensive for them?

Lol, thanks for posting, but hopefully nobody here bought any, it just looked like some kinda giant cashgrab anyhow with the mintage so high...

Btw who tf is Patrick Hakim anyways? Some dude on youtube I'm guessing? Will go look now

Ah.. Yeah he looks super-trustworthy here for sure.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-hakim/

[MoparMiningLLC]

Ha I knew something was funked up with those coins. 50k XRP got too expensive for them?

Lol, thanks for posting, but hopefully nobody here bought any, it just looked like some kinda giant cashgrab anyhow with the mintage so high...

Btw who tf is Patrick Hakim anyways? Some dude on youtube I'm guessing? Will go look now

Ah.. Yeah he looks super-trustworthy here for sure.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-hakim/

My issue is not so much with Patrick but with the way his team acts. There was a process that was laid out - and the way the guy posted the pictures and with the comments he used, it made it really appear as though that process was not followed - it also did not help with the immediate removal of all pictures/comments when asked - he also then blocked me - later unblocking me to call me various names - ending with calling me a bum who knows nothing and should go back to 3d printing and basically mind my own business.

Their process was that Patrick generate the keys and affix them to the coin upside down and then the coin moves to having the public address applied and then move to being verified as correctly assembled with address properly readable etc

ABkrypto's post of various photos and the comment about having his son down in the trenches "assembling physical collectibles" made it appear as though the process was thrown out the window and they were all just assembling the coins. This then obviously drew attention of several people - who also asked me about it as I was partially involved wit the satpulse coins - I initially thought these were the satpulse coins so I was very concerned as ABKrypto was not involved in that project at all as far I was told.

But rather then address the concerns and questions, it became an insult game.

If they followed the process and only one person had exposure to the keys - then ok. If more people had exposure then the transparency is necessary and full disclosure should be up front, not after the fact.

They are new to this process and still have a lot to learn. They may want to decrease the batch size and the price - as this does appear on this scale and price to be a cash grab when done this way.

I trust Patrick so far - he has not lied to me and has been straight forward - his team members, not so much. Patrick even admits that this then makes it hard for him to move forward working with these people going forward.

But this is my opinion and while I share it openly - I dont expect or am I requesting anyone to share it.