notthematrix
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!
|
|
November 13, 2013, 10:10:33 PM |
|
All oil sheik who hate the US dollar , and will trade oil in btc if it has Enough mass if they can destroy the US domination by simply supporting a decentralized currency they WILL
|
|
|
|
Sage
|
|
November 14, 2013, 12:07:20 AM |
|
All oil sheik who hate the US dollar , and will trade oil in btc if it has Enough mass if they can destroy the US domination by simply supporting a decentralized currency they WILL And the world will only be better without the petro dollar. Hopefully they take down the Federal Reserve while they are at it.
|
|
|
|
agath
|
|
November 14, 2013, 12:51:26 AM |
|
Last week I went to a local bar. Me and a friend of mine were talking about bitcoins. The bartender heard us, and he was happy to receive BTC as payment. I used my android phone to pay. It was a very easy and pleasant transaction and both me and the bartender were happy to use bitcoins.
If a small business like a bar here in Italy (we are far behind than average, on bitcoin adoption) accepted bitcoins for payment it means that it is really going viral! Yay!
|
|
|
|
snakebit
Member
Offline
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
|
|
November 14, 2013, 01:03:12 AM |
|
Well, for the first time ever, I overheard a story about Bitcoin, a positive one at that discussing about the cryptocurrency and how a shopkeep sells his items for BTC and how to use it on the CBS 5:00 local news in my area. This is just one step closer toward mainstream interest and adoption.
|
|
|
|
seleme
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1028
Duelbits.com
|
|
November 14, 2013, 01:04:47 AM |
|
It's not even close to critical mass. Still only 1 of 20 people you will talk about bitcoin won't look you as some nutter when you talk about it.
If critical mass would have been hit, the price would be 5k.
|
|
|
|
mvidetto
|
|
November 14, 2013, 01:14:31 AM |
|
It's not even close to critical mass. Still only 1 of 20 people you will talk about bitcoin won't look you as some nutter when you talk about it.
If critical mass would have been hit, the price would be 5k.
I think maybe that number is closer to 1 in 100 for me lol...
|
|
|
|
rocks
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1153
Merit: 1000
|
|
November 14, 2013, 01:37:53 AM |
|
You've gotta put yourself in the heads of the average Walmart shopper. Try to get them to use Bitcoin... are you kidding me? Not with current technology. It's only a matter of time before they lose their coins.
Not until the technology is in place for the average Walmart shopper to use it effortlessly will Bitcoin hit mass adoption.
We are far from it.... which means if you're not stupid enough to buy in the middle of bubble cycles (like now), and buy on the dips only, you'll make out like a bandit for years to come.
This is the "is bitcoin a currency or is bitcoin money" arguement. If bitcoin's primary purpose was an alternative currency, then I would agree with you statements above. But if you view bitcoin as an alternative form of money, then you do not need the average Walmart shopper. The average Walmart shopper knows nothing about gold, but central banks are currently fighting over the remaining physical suppies (see the US to Germany delays). The average Walmart shopper knows nothing about bank reserves or bonds but they serve as the backbone of our currency system, which they use everytime the make a purchase from Walmart. The average person never has to get into bitcoin for it to take off. If bitcoin is money it could one day serve as the underlying asset of what the average person uses for currency transactions.
|
|
|
|
bitboyben
|
|
November 14, 2013, 01:57:07 AM |
|
I see that... so everyone is holding! perfect.
|
Why did I sell at $5! Come back to me my old bitcoin! 1GjeBGS4KrxKAeEVt8d1fTnuKgpKpMmL6S If you don't like the price of BTC come back in 8 hours.
|
|
|
notthematrix
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!
|
|
November 14, 2013, 02:06:59 AM |
|
|
|
|
|
kokojie (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1003
|
|
November 14, 2013, 02:34:40 AM |
|
I'd say such a bubble can only happen in early stage of development, because of the mystery surrounding it and not many people can truly understand it. But not so early that only a few thousand people knew about it. So in 2009 was housing not in a bubble or was the concept of housing in the early stage of development with only a few thousand people aware of the "new technology" of using walls and a roof to protect humans from the elements? Sorry man but outside of the standard daily trolls, that has to be the silliest thing I heard today. Nope, 2009 was not a housing bubble, 2009 was a financing bubble, banks blindly financed people who have bad credit, and then packaged the mortgage as "AAA" rating CDS security and sold to investors. This securitization of mortgages is a relatively new thing, started from the 1990s, and voila it caused a huge bubble. Now that we have a better understanding of CDS, it can no longer cause a bubble, because now we have proper regulation in place to regulate it.
|
btc: 15sFnThw58hiGHYXyUAasgfauifTEB1ZF6
|
|
|
iCEBREAKER
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
|
|
November 14, 2013, 02:40:44 AM |
|
Some good science on the 100th monkey was just published. Turns out you only need 10% of a population to be fan(atic)s to achieve permanent meme propagation. Anyway, a friend of mine just told me she saw a "Selling Bitcoins in $my_city" sign on the wall at the local post office! She asked if it was me; I said "no, I'm done selling BTC for anything under one million dollars."
|
██████████ ██████████████████ ██████████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ████████████████████████████████ ████████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████████ ████████████████████████████████ ██████████████ ██████████████ ████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ██████████████████████ ██████████████████ ██████████ Monero
|
| "The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy." David Chaum 1996 "Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect." Adam Back 2014
|
| | |
|
|
|
BitcoinAshley
|
|
November 14, 2013, 03:26:06 AM |
|
[...]Now that we have a better understanding of CDS, it can no longer cause a bubble, because now we have proper regulation in place to regulate it.
Yes, regulation fixes everything! If something goes wrong in the financial world, we need just make a regulation and it will go away. Good statist monkey. Let me give you some monkey treats. (Also, why is the housing bubble reinflating? If now we can no longer have a bubble because regulation blah blah blah...) Let me guess, you also support quantitative easing, because it "fixes the economy," and keep inflation close to the target of 2%, and let me guess, you also believe that real inflation is actually 1-2% just like Uncle Ben says, and let me guess... nah, I think I've got you allll figured out
|
|
|
|
BitcoinAshley
|
|
November 14, 2013, 03:27:25 AM |
|
Last week I went to a local bar. Me and a friend of mine were talking about bitcoins. The bartender heard us, and he was happy to receive BTC as payment. I used my android phone to pay. It was a very easy and pleasant transaction and both me and the bartender were happy to use bitcoins.
If a small business like a bar here in Italy (we are far behind than average, on bitcoin adoption) accepted bitcoins for payment it means that it is really going viral! Yay!
Cool story. You missed the part where you told the bartender he should put up a sign saying "We accept bitcoins" in a visible location.
|
|
|
|
notthematrix
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!
|
|
November 14, 2013, 03:29:08 AM |
|
Some good science on the 100th monkey was just published. Turns out you only need 10% of a population to be fan(atic)s to achieve permanent meme propagation. Anyway, a friend of mine just told me she saw a "Selling Bitcoins in $my_city" sign on the wall at the local post office! She asked if it was me; I said "no, I'm done selling BTC for anything under one million dollars." Helping people to set up secure Wallets , linux distro encrpted LVM etc , and full-wallet only , just as the digital version of the old SAFE does help spreading the bitcoin gospel.
|
|
|
|
kokojie (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1003
|
|
November 14, 2013, 04:29:23 AM |
|
[...]Now that we have a better understanding of CDS, it can no longer cause a bubble, because now we have proper regulation in place to regulate it.
Yes, regulation fixes everything! If something goes wrong in the financial world, we need just make a regulation and it will go away. Good statist monkey. Let me give you some monkey treats. (Also, why is the housing bubble reinflating? If now we can no longer have a bubble because regulation blah blah blah...) Let me guess, you also support quantitative easing, because it "fixes the economy," and keep inflation close to the target of 2%, and let me guess, you also believe that real inflation is actually 1-2% just like Uncle Ben says, and let me guess... nah, I think I've got you allll figured out There was no bubble in housing, US housing market is still dirt cheap. Like I said, it was a financing bubble, not a housing bubble. If you want to see a housing bubble in action, you need to look at China. I guess it's no a popular opinion around here, but I do believe some regulation is needed. For example, completely unregulated and privatized healthcare would be a disaster.
|
btc: 15sFnThw58hiGHYXyUAasgfauifTEB1ZF6
|
|
|
mb300sd
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
Drunk Posts
|
|
November 14, 2013, 04:34:21 AM |
|
Theres definitely some mass coming in though, the first $32 bubble, my friends were wtf are you talking about, $266, I was like I'm a millionaire, and they were like GTFO now, this time, their all going sell me some!
|
1D7FJWRzeKa4SLmTznd3JpeNU13L1ErEco
|
|
|
Jrock
|
|
November 14, 2013, 05:27:14 AM |
|
Whenever I see a Bitcoin article outside of this forum that has public comments 95% of the people commenting are people saying Bitcoin isn't money, if they want fake money they'll go into their closet and pull out some monopoly money, or it's a scam, or a ponzi scheme, or insert tons of other stuff people claim Bitcoin to be. The other 5% are "true believers" calling the other people idiots.
I'm no bear, but I am a realist. We are no where near, and I mean NO WHERE near mainstream with Bitcoin.
Greed is the only thing leading this train. How far it goes is anyone's guess.
|
|
|
|
calian
|
|
November 14, 2013, 07:07:04 AM |
|
Greed is the only thing leading this train. How far it goes is anyone's guess.
You could say the same thing for DNA based life I suppose.
|
|
|
|
goxed
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1006
Bitcoin / Crypto mining Hardware.
|
|
November 14, 2013, 07:30:22 AM |
|
"Honey badger don't care!" and "Honey badger don't give a shit!
|
Revewing Bitcoin / Crypto mining Hardware.
|
|
|
Operatr
|
|
November 14, 2013, 08:16:32 AM |
|
This time around is not a bubble. Bitcoin will have mini-bubbles time to time from rapid upward momentum, but the economy is sound enough to support this new price. April was a combination of rampant speculation followed by Mt.Gox's trade engine buckling under the weight of the sudden volume, causing an equally large panic and collapse to $50, and leveling off at $100. Since then- BTCChina has taken over the top spot in volume, Mt.Gox is no longer the central exchange. Gox again started having issues this rally, but BTCChina held up the price, BTC shrugged and kept going. No flash crash to be seen (aside an expected correction, and from there to new all time highs again) BTC is nearing a $5 Billion cap. April saw $1 Billion after 4 years. We saw it go from $2 Billion (6 months from April) to nearly $5 Billion in 90 days. The chart has gone parabolic, we might see $10 Billion by the end of the year. Payment gateways and ease of use is increasing greatly. Global deployment of local Bitcoin ATMs further diversifying the exchange net Adoption by very large companies, and lots and lots of small ones tired of being gouged by the failing fiat economy. All those that said "Bitcoin is dead!" in April have been 110% silenced. Media exposure this time has been much, much more positive than April. SR shutdown scrubbed Bitcoins filthy image from the public eye (despite it not really mattering as SR replacements, and SR itself, returned ), which BTC barely reacted to price-wise. BTC is becoming a real currency and money to the public. Overall enthusiasm and momentum is increasing rapidly. The mining network has been converted from a bunch of fire-hazard looking GPU and FPGA rigs to professional grade mining gear. It has yet to be seen, but we may be seeing the early days of the exponential rise of Bitcoin. I do see this all to mean a state of critical mass, world adoption is accelerating at a breakneck pace. Nowhere near the end at all to be sure. 2013 was the real Year of Bitcoin, moving from the plaything of tech enthusiasts and hobbyists to serious business and market penetration. And I for one couldn't be happier to be a part of it
|
|
|
|
|