Behaviour on the Speculation board: women not welcome?

[Inedible]

/sigh*/

Are there actually any other women here?

Everyday I wake up and check the posts on the Wall Thread and all that's gone before are (given the time zone) US men measuring their cocks and posturing.  Really guys a Freudian would have field day with some of you. I appreciate speculating is a male dominated area but really...do you have to be so Neanderthal.

I've been reading these forums since almost the beginning and fought the urge to join because internet forums tend to be frat houses in general but at least now I can press ignore on the massive flacid egos like Walsoraj, Crumbs, Pannakke (do you even mine?) or TERA.

Since I've joined I've tried to be helpful and polite, offer some insight where possible (gosh can a noob know anything or be anything other than a spotty adolescent), tried to join in the back slapping, I've sent hopefully helpful PMs to people who have asked for information but most users don't reply and only a small percentage are actually polite - its as if your join date equals your social class. 

Yet, you want the rest of the world to adopt BTC - well, I've got some news guys...new people love being treated like dirt...us women especially...we find it such a winning business strategy. That comes in heavy irony tags for those of you a bit slow on emotional intelligence.

The only positive from the last 8 hours of the above thread is seeing Chodpaba again....hurrah for a polite, sensible and considered voice - I wish you'd restart your Peak/Reversal Watch thread.

The rest of you - try respecting each other and especially newcomers - the world is watching you/us now, you/we are ambassadors for Bitcoin, try and behave like adults.  And perhaps a few less "I'd fap her" and soft-porn images would stop the general tone that you are basically a bunch of bitter, middle-aged, sexually frustrated, misogynistic geeks.

Just a thought

Nan

PS.....and no I'm not a dyke, or not getting any etc etc...happilly married for 14 years.

The vast majority of posters here are male. In my experience around half of them are decent people, a quarter are trolls and the remainder are newbies or egomaniacs.

That being the case, I'd say it's normal to see strong male orientated behaviour here. Is some of it distasteful, yes but are you saying that this is purely gender related? You're saying a group of women would behave differently?

If so, isn't what you're saying inherently sexist?

What you're saying is females are better people which I disagree with. I think you can be good or bad and be male or female. I don't feel women have the monopoly on sensible discourse.

P.S. I've personally not seem much in the way of sexism at all (other than overt sexist posts which I assume to be jokes), if anything, this is one of the most sexist posts I've seen simply because there's no irony or humour here. You're pretty serious in your belief that female behaviour is better behaviour.

[bit-coinpoker]

if the world is looking at bitcointalk.org to see whether bitcoin is worth the risk...

...bitcoin is doomed.

The world will see itself here, for good or bad. This is a very big community already and it seems BC is a currency. It has a long way to develop, I believe the push will be mostly positive.  People who come here want BC and they are positive, because they are here. This forum will be a +push outward, expanding the currency.

[Inedible]

And re: reading this board to find out if bitcoin is worth investing in: that's what I did, and now I'm holding some of them and so is my old man. Maybe I was wrong all along though, it would perhaps have been better to look at the tone of people posting instead of analyzing the numbers?

Reading a pro-Bitcoin website to decide whether to 'invest' in Bitcoin sounds like confirmation bias to me  

[beetcoin]

And re: reading this board to find out if bitcoin is worth investing in: that's what I did, and now I'm holding some of them and so is my old man. Maybe I was wrong all along though, it would perhaps have been better to look at the tone of people posting instead of analyzing the numbers?

Reading a pro-Bitcoin website to decide whether to 'invest' in Bitcoin sounds like confirmation bias to me  

i've been here a few weeks, and with /r/bitcoin on reddit for some time.. and it IS confirmation bias. some of the people here are wearing glasses with the BTC sign on them. but still, this site is still useful for good information - you just have to filter the bad stuff out.

[Mondy]

all i got to say is hahaha at this thread


also OP just use ignore, just about everyone you named, is on my ignore

Yep!

[nanobrain]

*slips on fedora* ... well, hello m'lady.

oh, and by the way, men can be alpha male assholes, but women can equally be bitches. if this site were a female dominated forum, i'm sure there'd be quite a few catty bad apples.

Absolutely, I am not saying all women are paragons of virtue, intellect or even-handedness...far from it.  However, you cannot (surely) disagree this is a male-dominated world? Crypto is a reflection and magnification of that.

On the wall-observer thread you will see countless images of women, so much so I'm being to think TA doesn't stand for 'Technical Analysis' but 'Tits n Ass'.   It's the thin of the wedge.  For all the noobs (I've been aware of BTC for a long-time and started an account in 2011 but didn't bother posting) perhaps head over to the troll-box on BTCe where you'll find the thick end of the wedge.

There all women are bitches to be slapped - it's the pornification of women. Some comments from last night which spring to mind:
"with my profits I'm going to get a whore on a leash"
"Made so much money gonna have a hundred ho's and a gang bang"
The word 'rape' is thrown around with abandon.

Yet, you'll get a ban for the heinous crime of using ALL CAPS!!

Oh, it's just trolling you laugh...but prostitution is not a fun career and a rape fantasy often ends up being fulfilled in real life

These are the people mining crypto and from what I can make out they're not a pleasant bunch.

[nanobrain]

The vast majority of posters here are male. In my experience around half of them are decent people, a quarter are trolls and the remainder are newbies or egomaniacs.

That being the case, I'd say it's normal to see strong male orientated behaviour here. Is some of it distasteful, yes but are you saying that this is purely gender related?

Mainly it is...I don't see "double bottom" being represented by a man's ass or even a normal woman's ass...its always a young, tanned, perfectly formed ass....its an excuse for a bit of soft-porn for the lads.

You're saying a group of women would behave differently?
 

Of course, they'd behave differently....they may not behave better but I imagine you'd get pretty sick of seeing pictures of male bottoms. And most mature, intelligent women would find endless images of George Clooney a bit tiresome too.

If so, isn't what you're saying inherently sexist?
 

Not sure if you're trolling by this point but this is a straw man....I won't waste time burning it down.

What you're saying is females are better people which I disagree with. I think you can be good or bad and be male or female. I don't feel women have the monopoly on sensible discourse.
 

Veering all over the road now and trying to put words in my mouth.

Think Values > Attitudes > Behaviour.

P.S. I've personally not seem much in the way of sexism at all (other than overt sexist posts which I assume to be jokes), if anything, this is one of the most sexist posts I've seen simply because there's no irony or humour here. You're pretty serious in your belief that female behaviour is better behaviour.

See the above points and posts but I'll draw attention to your statement about 'jokes'.  Interesting isn't it that you automatically assume sexist behaviour is a joke, while pointing out that this behaviour can be harmful is sexist.  I guess nigger jokes are just harmless fun too?

You are clearly talking from a dominant social position - spend your life being the butt of 'jokes' and see how quickly they wear thin.

[jojo69]

you are quite welcome

post all the bare chested beefcake you like, straining briefs for extra points

[nanobrain]

you are quite welcome

post all the bare chested beefcake you like, straining briefs for extra points

Respect cuts both ways and I won't go down that road.

"Women wanted liberation but settled for equality"

[nanobrain]

At this point, remembering that crypto is going to bring us a Brave New World Order (supposedly according to many here)...lets lighten things up with a game.

Spot the Female



Remember these are the fiat folk you all supposedly hate and want to replace.

Plus ca change?

[jojo69]

please do not fall into the trap of conflating feminism with an anti sex world view

[beetcoin]

At this point, remembering that crypto is going to bring us a Brave New World Order (supposedly according to many here)...lets lighten things up with a game.

Spot the Female



Remember these are the fiat folk you all supposedly hate and want to replace.

Plus ca change?

i didn't see any boobs, so there are no females in that picture 

[Lucky Cris]

Get back in the kitchen.

Jerk.

*IF* you have an unlucky lady in your life... let me guess - mail ordered? Or maybe you're just a old man living in a time long gone. Get over it.

[beetcoin]

yeah, that's offensive. all the best chefs in the world are men you know!

FYI, this is the internet.. i know people can get upset at how fucked up it is, but it's best not to take too seriously.

[TheKoziTwo]

Instead of trying to change the behavior of men you may want to take a deep look at yourself. There is nothing wrong with objectifying women, and women objectify men all the time. Porn is morally right and so is prostitution. To me this looks like a topic about an envious feminist lost in male dominated space. If you're going to convert people to your ideology this is certainly not the place! Young males can see right through your feminist bullshit. I'd rather look into political parties for socialist or something. It's much more likely to find males who can surrender to your world view there.

I'm secretly laughing my ass off at this topic, I'm sorry. But when you get offended by a "trollbox", it's not just the people there who have problems.

There is an ignore button, and I really don't see why you didn't use it on that one person who posted "porn" in the wall observer thread if those prettier girls bothers you so much.

[nanobrain]

At this point, remembering that crypto is going to bring us a Brave New World Order (supposedly according to many here)...lets lighten things up with a game.

Spot the Female



Remember these are the fiat folk you all supposedly hate and want to replace.

Plus ca change?

i didn't see any boobs, so there are no females in that picture  

Personally, I see a lot of huge tits

I do have a sense of humour!!

My point with all this is that BTC appears to be dominated by men who ironically hold very similar values to the men who run fiat.

If we want to change the world we are all going to have to change our attitudes and try being more respectful to each other and understand that images/words on the internet have power.

As a mod here with whom I have had an interesting discussion said:
"I'm sure you will find it true in many more ways that some of us have become the very things we used to abhor."

[beetcoin]

At this point, remembering that crypto is going to bring us a Brave New World Order (supposedly according to many here)...lets lighten things up with a game.

Spot the Female



Remember these are the fiat folk you all supposedly hate and want to replace.

Plus ca change?

i didn't see any boobs, so there are no females in that picture  

Personally, I see a lot of huge tits

I do have a sense of humour!!

My point with all this is that BTC appears to be dominated by men who ironically hold very similar values to the men who run fiat.

If we want to change the world we are all going to have to change our attitudes and try being more respectful to each other and understand that images/words on the internet have power.

As a mod here with whom I have had an interesting discussion said:
"I'm sure you will find it true in many more ways that some of us have become the very things we used to abhor."

well, i can't disagree with you. it's a trend i have noticed too, but women aren't naturally aren't attracted to technology or economics/currency as much as men are. if anything, the men here are probably more nerdy.. so it would be nice if other women were into BTC, so we'd have an excuse to talk to them  

the males here are alpha for certain, but i don't think they are as bad as sociopath wall streeters.

[nanobrain]

Instead of trying to change the behavior of men you may want to take a deep look at yourself. There is nothing wrong with objectifying women, and women objectify men all the time. Porn is morally right and so is prostitution. To me this looks like a topic about an envious feminist lost in male dominated space. If you're going to convert people to your ideology this is certainly not the place! Young males can see right through your feminist bullshit. I'd rather look into political parties for socialist or something. It's much more likely to find males who can surrender to your world view there.

I'm secretly laughing my ass off at this topic, I'm sorry. But when you get offended by a "trollbox", it's not just the people there who have problems.

There is an ignore button, and I really don't see why you didn't use it on that one person who posted "porn" in the wall observer thread if those prettier girls bothers you so much.

Wow, what an interesting response: so, it's my fault....my first thought is that's the sort of defence rapists use.

Porn and prostitution are morally OK... a very dubious intellectual position.
Perhaps read this before replying...there are plenty of links but I chose the FBI one because I think you are in the US...apologies if I'm wrong.

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/march_2011/human_sex_trafficking

I'm just envious of prettier girls LOL....so automatically, a woman who doesn't hold your views is an ugly, old socialist dyke.  I don't regard myself as either politically active or a feminist FYI.

But old...guilty as charged...I'm probably old enough to be your mother....I'm guessing you have a mother, perhaps a sister or partner - how would you feel if she was raped/abused/sold to the sex-slave trade?  And how would you feel if that rapist had nurtured their fantasies on the internet?

I'd say holding very extreme views like you have (re. prostitution and porn) often invites the fates to test them out. I sincerely hope they don't.

But it's interesting that you say 'Young males'...which seems to imply that older, wiser heads understand the issues? You're probably right.

And I think this word "troll" has become an easy 'get out jail' card for people to say any sort of ugly, spiteful shite and justify it..."I was only joking".  Words have power especially in medium that is virtually souly word-based.

I'm not trying to convert people to feminism...ah, read the posts above....but as I said to someone else you seem to be speaking from a position of social power.  And as a white, middle-class female I can say I'm pretty lucky compared to many of the women around the world .

[jojo69]

again nan, you are falling into his trap by equating feminism with a shaming, anti sex worldview, this is a losing position, please don't

[beetcoin]

i don't think porn and prostitution are the same thing as human sex trafficking.