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April 29, 2018, 05:51:07 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

I hope you don't get fired for this. If you have the private key to the wallet address then you will able to control where or when to send it or exchange it, but when you just did send it to an address that you don't possess the keys. Then you are in big trouble.
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What happened I realized, but how happened I did not fully understand. Who are you looking for??? ... If all that you wrote is true, take a lesson and go on with life. Good luck!
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May 01, 2018, 01:31:39 PM
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Same here, I do not understand what he's talking about.

I feel you have been cheated by your boss and also his clients? correct? Since you have contacted your boss but he did not reply, if like this I find it difficult for you to get back what you have lost, because even if you can hack his wallet, maybe your bitcoin has been converted by him.

It's rather simple. He (she) was hired online to do a "work" which is basically about receiving banking transfers and forwarding them for a small percent as "salary". In this case he was required to convert received cash to BTC and then forward it. So when the fraudulent transfer is discovered by the bank and they request funds to be returned the money is already gone. OP was hoping to be able to revoke BTC transfer he made, which is obviously impossible.


So what can I do in this case?

I'm sorry to hear that but there's nothing you can do to get back that money and that is a big amount to begin with. To share my experience, I was also hired similar to yours but it doesn't involved bitcoin, because it there's no crypto that time. I was asked to withdraw the money from the bank, but I think I smell something fishy that's why I turned away. As far as hacking, we won't advise you to do that because you have to pay someone to do it for you and besides how will you know that the hackers will give back the money to you anyways?

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May 01, 2018, 03:23:49 PM
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Well, I don't even think this to be now a matter of giving back the money, but of protecting yourself. I'm afraid, it seems to be some kind of scam in which not only the client but also your boss is implied.
So, two questions:
- Do you have a formal contract with your boss, meaning a legal one in which your activities are detailed?
- Do you have all the messages, something related to the spending-money activity and something that can explain why do you received and sent this amount?

Because, looking at what happened, you don't need a hacker, but a lawyer.

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May 01, 2018, 08:10:38 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

Which bitcoin wallet did you use? Assuming you created you own wallet and have the keys to it then you can just convert it back to fiat. However, if they gave you the wallet address and you transferred it in there - then unfortunately you've been scammed.

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May 02, 2018, 04:59:35 PM
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Unfortunately i wrote my supervisor begging messages to return money but i have no answer
May be it is possible to hack this bitcoin account somehow?

Why do you talk about hacking account? This is what I don't like about your confused story. When you talk about hacking, it means you have a dubious tendencies yourself. Otherwise, you should be looking at legal means since you know both the debtors and your supervisor in person or traceable.
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May 02, 2018, 06:12:41 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.
Dont worry you wont be banned. Actually you dont really have the problem at all yet your supervisor do told that you should put up those money in a bitcoin wallet. The thing questions on my mind why those funds would be needed to be transferred? This would be the main question into this problem.Your supervisor should really be sued out on such situation but the thing here is that proofs would be required since its verbal then it would be hard for them to believe on what you have said. Bitcoin transactions is anonymous and anytime we can really deny on making such transactions.

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May 02, 2018, 06:49:07 PM
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Unfortunately i wrote my supervisor begging messages to return money but i have no answer
May be it is possible to hack this bitcoin account somehow?

Why do you talk about hacking account? This is what I don't like about your confused story. When you talk about hacking, it means you have a dubious tendencies yourself. Otherwise, you should be looking at legal means since you know both the debtors and your supervisor in person or traceable.

Hacking is happening on various big exchanges and mining hash buying sites as well. In that meanwhile you are saying loosing the fund with the supervision simply nonsense I think. We do not need to worry about the hacking if that happen.
All you need to do precaution to safeguard your wallet better in future. Nothing else work while you are victim of hacking.

 
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May 02, 2018, 08:11:38 PM
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Unfortunately i wrote my supervisor begging messages to return money but i have no answer
May be it is possible to hack this bitcoin account somehow?

Why do you talk about hacking account? This is what I don't like about your confused story. When you talk about hacking, it means you have a dubious tendencies yourself. Otherwise, you should be looking at legal means since you know both the debtors and your supervisor in person or traceable.

Hacking is happening on various big exchanges and mining hash buying sites as well. In that meanwhile you are saying loosing the fund with the supervision simply nonsense I think. We do not need to worry about the hacking if that happen.
All you need to do precaution to safeguard your wallet better in future. Nothing else work while you are victim of hacking.

Yes a little thing will send to you a big danger zone so new people will learn from this so i think the punishment will be definitely given to the victim but hope a chance will be given it will be very helpful for him to do make a changes in his move.

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May 02, 2018, 08:27:13 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

It was an inside stuff at your company's premises so why in the first place we will know what actions should be done. There are some confusions on some part of the story but I will not take it for now as what matter here is and  must be prioritized is....

..by taking it on legal and asked your supervisor. What kind of supervisor you have if they didn't answering your calls. Talk to your bosses and plan for a counter. You guys there have to collaborate with each other to solve that case. No way it can be solved by posting it here in the community.


Unfortunately i wrote my supervisor begging messages to return money but i have no answer
May be it is possible to hack this bitcoin account somehow?

No. Focus on contacting him first. What kind of office is that? You even don't meet your supervisor personally?

My supervisor is one of the people who stole the money. I wrote a lot of messages but i havent received any answer so i think i am in a trap and i dont know what can i do.


Then take it on legal. What else you can do? Legal process will not force you to return the money back as there will be an investigation first and bank will recognized that. State the name of supervisor and detailed it properly to the authorities.

If the company of yours who hired you is not legit and they are running illegaly then you sorry to say that you are fucked up.

Ok so how it is going now after weeks on the making? What is the progress?

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May 03, 2018, 04:37:30 AM
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Sincerely with sympathy,continue to be careful.Give the Bank and the police evidence proving that you're the victim here.
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May 22, 2018, 10:16:37 AM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

why worry buddy? if you put that money into bitcoin then convert it back to fiat... if you place that money when btc price has drop to 7k then you are lucky to have a profit by now... open your wallet send the coin to exhange and convert to fiat and send it to your bank account... thats very simple.
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May 22, 2018, 11:31:33 AM
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You are really on the hot sit my friend but one mistake you did is to use personal thins on your work like using your own personal account when engaging on money, and that is a very big no when you are working under the finance department, since it will create a confusing in the future.

But don't panic, it is basic to say that the only person who has the authority to get the money back is the person who send you the money!!
But, there always a but! If the bank call you and the person who gave you the money is not calling you then just relax your safe you don;t need to panic wait for their email and say what I have said, but if the both parties are saying they want the money back then don't immediate give it to them! Look for a letter why they want the money back, don't give them because they say so, they can not send you to police either since they don't have the request or proper procedure on having the money back.

Chill, life is easy, but for the meantime print some of the transaction copy of the money transfer as back up to defend yourself.

Let me know if you solve it.

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May 22, 2018, 04:38:19 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

why worry buddy? if you put that money into bitcoin then convert it back to fiat... if you place that money when btc price has drop to 7k then you are lucky to have a profit by now... open your wallet send the coin to exhange and convert to fiat and send it to your bank account... thats very simple.
There is simply no way he can convert the money he sent to someone else's bitcoin address to fiat when he does not have any access to that wallet. The issue now is that, it is either the supervisor purposely scammed him to make him fall for it, which is what I am assuming now, and God save him that is not the case. He is simply at the mercy of his supervisor now, because the fund sent can only be traceable to him, and if there is no official conversation between him and the supervisor, I am wondering how is going to be proving himself of his innocence in this matter.
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May 22, 2018, 05:39:50 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

why worry buddy? if you put that money into bitcoin then convert it back to fiat... if you place that money when btc price has drop to 7k then you are lucky to have a profit by now... open your wallet send the coin to exhange and convert to fiat and send it to your bank account... thats very simple.

Today actually you can see the bitcoin price dumped little cheaper in the market mate. If you look to invest your fiat cash on the cryptocurrencies that will be work better than exchange the btc to fiat now.
There are many people had been a victim over the exchange and somewhere scammed in the forum mas well.
We need to check the people before we deal with them else at least we need to have escrow for it.
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May 23, 2018, 04:23:11 AM
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It is sad to see that cryptocurrency is being used to scam people and put the blame to people who are working diligently. This just like one of the new that I have heard in tge Philippines where they used BTC to scam millions worth of fiat by using an MLM type of scheme. Based on your story it seems like it was your supervisors advise to put it in the BTC wallet so it can be part of his/her ploy to put the blame to you. I am just speculating thing but It would need to be further investigated by your company and hopefully your name will be cleared.

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May 23, 2018, 12:06:41 PM
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I hope you don't get fired for this. If you have the private key to the wallet address then you will able to control where or when to send it or exchange it, but when you just did send it to an address that you don't possess the keys. Then you are in big trouble.
That is if he has not been fired yet looking at the time he posted this and now. That is a huge amount of money and he was really dumb to fall for such a thing sending such an amount in bitcoin to a supervisor that he possibly cannot trace. However, what I do not understand is that how did they converse ? Was it via email, phone call or SMS ?

If it was phone call, then he is really screwed but one way or the other, I believe the supervisor should have at least sent the bitcoin wallet address via email or something, and if he did not use an official number, then he is even more screwed !

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May 24, 2018, 09:02:48 AM
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I was once a victim of fraud. One has to be careful when dealing online
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May 24, 2018, 11:54:04 AM
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It is sad to see that cryptocurrency is being used to scam people and put the blame to people who are working diligently. This just like one of the new that I have heard in tge Philippines where they used BTC to scam millions worth of fiat by using an MLM type of scheme. Based on your story it seems like it was your supervisors advise to put it in the BTC wallet so it can be part of his/her ploy to put the blame to you. I am just speculating thing but It would need to be further investigated by your company and hopefully your name will be cleared.

The Philippine case is different though, its a Ponzi scheme and the culprit was caught. In the OP's case, it looks like he/she was really used as a sort of middleman to broker something and worst is that he/she is totally compromise, As we have noticed, he/she didn't reply so it only means one thing. He/she is out of the job, his personal data compromise and worst part is that is involves a lot of money (4,500 euros). Hope though that he/she is ok and has since move on.

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May 24, 2018, 12:49:29 PM
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As each and every activity happens through the interlinked internet connectivity the chances of getting into traps were big. We need to be more cautious in this activities. Possibly, should make use of the chances available to keep ourselves away from scammers and other fraudulents.
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