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April 27, 2018, 02:48:50 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.
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April 27, 2018, 03:18:42 PM
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You're really in a bad situation bud, it's sad to say that you really can't get the money back or the bitcoin back if you do have only the address. You need to have the private key of that account in order to have access in the wallet and get it, but i think it would be impossible since it's in your supervisor (Correct me if i'm wrong). But you can get track of the transaction in that address through blockchain but it would be hard if the bitcoin goes into exchange it will be untrackable.

If you know personally your supervisor you can just tell it to police and file a case against him/her. I may not be helpful enough sorry, I hope you learn your lesson.
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April 27, 2018, 03:29:27 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

I'm having some trouble understanding your story.

Someone who owns you money sends you 4.5k through a "friend"(?) to you, in fiat(?) your supervisor tells you to convert the fiat(?) to bitcoin, which you did using the bitcoin shop(?)?

Where do you have the bitcoins now? Can't you use an exchange such as bitstamp to convert the bitcoin back to EUR and send the euros back to the bank account of the "friend"(?) that send the money to  you in the first place?

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April 27, 2018, 04:08:09 PM
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You're really in a bad situation bud, it's sad to say that you really can't get the money back or the bitcoin back if you do have only the address. You need to have the private key of that account in order to have access in the wallet and get it, but i think it would be impossible since it's in your supervisor (Correct me if i'm wrong). But you can get track of the transaction in that address through blockchain but it would be hard if the bitcoin goes into exchange it will be untrackable.

If you know personally your supervisor you can just tell it to police and file a case against him/her. I may not be helpful enough sorry, I hope you learn your lesson.

Bitcoin users are mostly anonymous I do not know what he can do with the bitcoin tx id of the transaction mate. If the person is high rank in this forum means we can ask to DTs to discuss on and can request to tag as well due to scamming with the other members.

As you said he cannot make the complaint on him since no government accepted bitcoin as legal money expect Japan. Even police cannot give any fuck to them mate.
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April 27, 2018, 04:57:08 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.
How can I return this money back? If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.
This is an unfortunate incident. Because, it is difficult to consider the situation through your narrative that they have colluded and joined together to scam you or not. But, as I think, there is no way to get back the money you sent into their BTC wallet. There are no exceptions to blockchain and finally, it is their voluntary.
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April 27, 2018, 05:46:50 PM
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Do not return the money. This is the problem of your employer
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April 27, 2018, 05:50:55 PM
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You're really in a bad situation bud, it's sad to say that you really can't get the money back or the bitcoin back if you do have only the address. You need to have the private key of that account in order to have access in the wallet and get it, but i think it would be impossible since it's in your supervisor (Correct me if i'm wrong). But you can get track of the transaction in that address through blockchain but it would be hard if the bitcoin goes into exchange it will be untrackable.

If you know personally your supervisor you can just tell it to police and file a case against him/her. I may not be helpful enough sorry, I hope you learn your lesson.

Bitcoin users are mostly anonymous I do not know what he can do with the bitcoin tx id of the transaction mate. If the person is high rank in this forum means we can ask to DTs to discuss on and can request to tag as well due to scamming with the other members.

As you said he cannot make the complaint on him since no government accepted bitcoin as legal money expect Japan. Even police cannot give any fuck to them mate.


Is it possible to hack somehow this account?
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April 27, 2018, 05:55:18 PM
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There is no way to reverse or break the blockchain of bitcoin. I think only their kindness, contact the bank to find your information. They can voluntarily return it for good purpose. Also, I do not think there is any other way. It is difficult to identify fraudulent factors in this case. But your "supervisor" may be the problem so you can deal with this unfortunate loss.

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There is no way to reverse or break the blockchain of bitcoin. I think only their kindness, contact the bank to find your information. They can voluntarily return it for good purpose. Also, I do not think there is any other way. It is difficult to identify fraudulent factors in this case. But your "supervisor" may be the problem so you can deal with this unfortunate loss.



Unfortunately i wrote my supervisor begging messages to return money but i have no answer
May be it is possible to hack this bitcoin account somehow?
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April 27, 2018, 06:13:53 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

Let me guess. You were hired online and worked from home? If so, then chances are you were lured into a banking fraud scheme that steals money from accounts.

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April 27, 2018, 06:22:26 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

It was an inside stuff at your company's premises so why in the first place we will know what actions should be done. There are some confusions on some part of the story but I will not take it for now as what matter here is and  must be prioritized is....

..by taking it on legal and asked your supervisor. What kind of supervisor you have if they didn't answering your calls. Talk to your bosses and plan for a counter. You guys there have to collaborate with each other to solve that case. No way it can be solved by posting it here in the community.


Unfortunately i wrote my supervisor begging messages to return money but i have no answer
May be it is possible to hack this bitcoin account somehow?

No. Focus on contacting him first. What kind of office is that? You even don't meet your supervisor personally?

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April 27, 2018, 06:29:57 PM
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Let me guess. You were hired online and worked from home? If so, then chances are you were lured into a banking fraud scheme that steals money from accounts.

Unfornutately you are right, and i dont know what to do.
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April 27, 2018, 06:37:57 PM
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Let me guess. You were hired online and worked from home? If so, then chances are you were lured into a banking fraud scheme that steals money from accounts.

Unfornutately you are right, and i dont know what to do.

Well there's nothing you can do. Banks are well aware of this type of fraud (it goes on for decades) and usually people like you who got involved into it without knowledge don't get punished hard. Provide your bank and/or police with as much evidence as you can proving you're a victim here, all emails, websites, phone call lists etc and let them take it from there. In 99.9% this won't lead to catching anyone but it will help you to avoid charges.

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April 27, 2018, 06:44:28 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

It was an inside stuff at your company's premises so why in the first place we will know what actions should be done. There are some confusions on some part of the story but I will not take it for now as what matter here is and  must be prioritized is....

..by taking it on legal and asked your supervisor. What kind of supervisor you have if they didn't answering your calls. Talk to your bosses and plan for a counter. You guys there have to collaborate with each other to solve that case. No way it can be solved by posting it here in the community.


Unfortunately i wrote my supervisor begging messages to return money but i have no answer
May be it is possible to hack this bitcoin account somehow?

No. Focus on contacting him first. What kind of office is that? You even don't meet your supervisor personally?

My supervisor is one of the people who stole the money. I wrote a lot of messages but i havent received any answer so i think i am in a trap and i dont know what can i do.
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April 27, 2018, 06:57:45 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

I'm having some trouble understanding your story.

Someone who owns you money sends you 4.5k through a "friend"(?) to you, in fiat(?) your supervisor tells you to convert the fiat(?) to bitcoin, which you did using the bitcoin shop(?)?

Where do you have the bitcoins now? Can't you use an exchange such as bitstamp to convert the bitcoin back to EUR and send the euros back to the bank account of the "friend"(?) that send the money to  you in the first place?

Same here, I do not understand what he's talking about.

I feel you have been cheated by your boss and also his clients? correct? Since you have contacted your boss but he did not reply, if like this I find it difficult for you to get back what you have lost, because even if you can hack his wallet, maybe your bitcoin has been converted by him.

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April 27, 2018, 07:14:40 PM
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Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

I'm having some trouble understanding your story.

Someone who owns you money sends you 4.5k through a "friend"(?) to you, in fiat(?) your supervisor tells you to convert the fiat(?) to bitcoin, which you did using the bitcoin shop(?)?

Where do you have the bitcoins now? Can't you use an exchange such as bitstamp to convert the bitcoin back to EUR and send the euros back to the bank account of the "friend"(?) that send the money to  you in the first place?

Same here, I do not understand what he's talking about.

I feel you have been cheated by your boss and also his clients? correct? Since you have contacted your boss but he did not reply, if like this I find it difficult for you to get back what you have lost, because even if you can hack his wallet, maybe your bitcoin has been converted by him.


You understand everything right. But maybe it wasn’t? What do I have to do?
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April 27, 2018, 07:15:13 PM
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Same here, I do not understand what he's talking about.

I feel you have been cheated by your boss and also his clients? correct? Since you have contacted your boss but he did not reply, if like this I find it difficult for you to get back what you have lost, because even if you can hack his wallet, maybe your bitcoin has been converted by him.

It's rather simple. He (she) was hired online to do a "work" which is basically about receiving banking transfers and forwarding them for a small percent as "salary". In this case he was required to convert received cash to BTC and then forward it. So when the fraudulent transfer is discovered by the bank and they request funds to be returned the money is already gone. OP was hoping to be able to revoke BTC transfer he made, which is obviously impossible.

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April 27, 2018, 07:36:34 PM
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Same here, I do not understand what he's talking about.

I feel you have been cheated by your boss and also his clients? correct? Since you have contacted your boss but he did not reply, if like this I find it difficult for you to get back what you have lost, because even if you can hack his wallet, maybe your bitcoin has been converted by him.

It's rather simple. He (she) was hired online to do a "work" which is basically about receiving banking transfers and forwarding them for a small percent as "salary". In this case he was required to convert received cash to BTC and then forward it. So when the fraudulent transfer is discovered by the bank and they request funds to be returned the money is already gone. OP was hoping to be able to revoke BTC transfer he made, which is obviously impossible.


So what can I do in this case?
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April 27, 2018, 07:59:47 PM
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Same here, I do not understand what he's talking about.

I feel you have been cheated by your boss and also his clients? correct? Since you have contacted your boss but he did not reply, if like this I find it difficult for you to get back what you have lost, because even if you can hack his wallet, maybe your bitcoin has been converted by him.

It's rather simple. He (she) was hired online to do a "work" which is basically about receiving banking transfers and forwarding them for a small percent as "salary". In this case he was required to convert received cash to BTC and then forward it. So when the fraudulent transfer is discovered by the bank and they request funds to be returned the money is already gone. OP was hoping to be able to revoke BTC transfer he made, which is obviously impossible.


So what can I do in this case?

I already told you (see above), there's not much you can do.

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April 29, 2018, 02:19:54 PM
 #20

You have a very difficult and sad situation. Try to talk to the boss, because he allowed you to do this operation. this is his responsibility



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