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January 09, 2014, 11:17:37 AM
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Why is this thread still not locked ?

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Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams.

You are right, but I think it's time to change the policy since scams are happening much more often.
This is a libertarian forum, thus the policies are libertarian. The current system makes you think rather than blindly depend on authority.

Libertarianism doesn't mean we have to sit back and let scams thefts and frauds happen in broad daylight.

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January 09, 2014, 11:23:39 AM
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 #382

Why is this thread still not locked ?

Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams.

You are right, but I think it's time to change the policy since scams are happening much more often.
This is a libertarian forum, thus the policies are libertarian. The current system makes you think rather than blindly depend on authority.

I've been using very harsh words recently in the Local section (but justifiably indeed and right to the point). Actually, they are obscene and forbidden in any kind of official talk (but everybody still makes use of them from time to time in informal circumstances). Thought that I would be warned at least, lol...

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January 09, 2014, 11:46:06 AM
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I just read the whole thread and let me say that we don't need any more policing of the forums. The people who agreed to this were just really stupid.

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January 09, 2014, 11:55:16 AM
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I just read the whole thread and let me say that we don't need any more policing of the forums. The people who agreed to this were just really stupid.

Haha, there's a few other threads of these types that are even dumber. People will never learn.

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January 09, 2014, 12:05:48 PM
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January 09, 2014, 12:49:51 PM
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Why is this thread still not locked ?

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Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams.

The guy admitted to be a scammer

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January 09, 2014, 12:55:53 PM
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I just read the whole thread and let me say that we don't need any more policing of the forums. The people who agreed to this were just really stupid.

I think people just get excited and greedy and don't really look at the reality of the situation.
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January 09, 2014, 02:45:17 PM
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Why is this thread still not locked ?

Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams.

The guy admitted to be a scammer
He might be saying sarcastically (not saying he was, it can be interpreted in a way). What I noticed that the moderation policy is to controll objective problems such as spam, flame wars and leave any subjective problems for the users to fix. This is a libertarian oriented forum after all, freedom of action, speech and such.

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January 09, 2014, 02:50:02 PM
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So is this actually a scammer-tolerant forum, i.e. scammers ain't banned, and their threads ain't locked? What other libertarianisms does it allow?

My goodness, I truly am a Lawful Good little mouse Tongue

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January 09, 2014, 02:52:37 PM
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So is this actually a scammer-tolerant forum, i.e. scammers ain't banned, and their threads ain't locked? What other libertarianisms does it allow?

My goodness, I truly am a Lawful Good little mouse Tongue
No, this a dream of a viligante/angry mob. The community scams, the community handles the scams and scammers. Trust system is one of the tools.

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January 09, 2014, 02:54:02 PM
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Why is this thread still not locked ?

Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams.

The guy admitted to be a scammer
He might be saying sarcastically (not saying he was, it can be interpreted in a way). What I noticed that the moderation policy is to controll objective problems such as spam, flame wars and leave any subjective problems for the users to fix. This is a libertarian oriented forum after all, freedom of action, speech and such.

He wasn't saying it sarcastically; he was being mocking and just rubbing it in.

So is this actually a scammer-tolerant forum, i.e. scammers ain't banned, and their threads ain't locked? What other libertarianisms does it allow?

My goodness, I truly am a Lawful Good little mouse Tongue

The rules are somewhat paradoxical and contradictory at times. Scammers usually aren’t banned but spammers sometimes are, and each mod has a different definition or what a actually spammer is.

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January 09, 2014, 03:02:09 PM
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Why is this thread still not locked ?

Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams.

The guy admitted to be a scammer
He might be saying sarcastically (not saying he was, it can be interpreted in a way). What I noticed that the moderation policy is to controll objective problems such as spam, flame wars and leave any subjective problems for the users to fix. This is a libertarian oriented forum after all, freedom of action, speech and such.

He wasn't saying it sarcastically; he was being mocking and just rubbing it in.

So is this actually a scammer-tolerant forum, i.e. scammers ain't banned, and their threads ain't locked? What other libertarianisms does it allow?

My goodness, I truly am a Lawful Good little mouse Tongue

The rules are somewhat paradoxical at times. Scammers usually aren’t banned but spammers sometimes are, and each mod has a different definition or what a actually spammer is.
The thing is that everything people say can be interpreted subjectively and such interpretation can be handled in a bad way. For example, let's say I post in a forum called TyrannyTalk that "I don't like that Steve guy" while Steve is a friend of the admin. The admin takes an alt army and slanders me with posts about me scamming users, presents faked proof. After that he orders the mods to ban me and poof, banned. See what I mean?

Meanwhile in BitcoinTalk people see a scammer and each user with different amounts of rep rates him appropriately. Another user dealing with him sees the ratings and makes a descision to trade with him or to cancel the deal.

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January 09, 2014, 03:18:34 PM
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The thing is that everything people say can be interpreted subjectively and such interpretation can be handled in a bad way. For example, let's say I post in a forum called TyrannyTalk that "I don't like that Steve guy" while Steve is a friend of the admin. The admin takes an alt army and slanders me with posts about me scamming users, presents faked proof. After that he orders the mods to ban me and poof, banned. See what I mean?

Meanwhile in BitcoinTalk people see a scammer and each user with different amounts of rep rates him appropriately. Another user dealing with him sees the ratings and makes a descision to trade with him or to cancel the deal.

Truly decentralized system at work. It may have its drawbacks and failures, but isn't it what bitcoin is all about?

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January 09, 2014, 04:41:56 PM
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Why is this thread still not locked ?

Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams.

The guy admitted to be a scammer
He might be saying sarcastically (not saying he was, it can be interpreted in a way). What I noticed that the moderation policy is to controll objective problems such as spam, flame wars and leave any subjective problems for the users to fix. This is a libertarian oriented forum after all, freedom of action, speech and such.
He said that AND didn't pay anyone
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January 09, 2014, 04:47:48 PM
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Why is this thread still not locked ?

Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams.

The guy admitted to be a scammer
He might be saying sarcastically (not saying he was, it can be interpreted in a way). What I noticed that the moderation policy is to controll objective problems such as spam, flame wars and leave any subjective problems for the users to fix. This is a libertarian oriented forum after all, freedom of action, speech and such.
He said that AND didn't pay anyone
Do you need more proof?
Someone please give me a Scammer tag! Wink
I hope now no body need any proof about his honesty he is asking for this tag

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January 09, 2014, 04:52:56 PM
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So is this actually a scammer-tolerant forum, i.e. scammers ain't banned, and their threads ain't locked? What other libertarianisms does it allow?

My goodness, I truly am a Lawful Good little mouse Tongue
Its a demonstration of personal responsibility.

Its your responsibility to investigate and ask questions then make up your own mind based on the information presented. If you get scammed, then you made bad choices, do better next time.

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Oh well it was too good to be true  Roll Eyes .Offering these rates for existing posts is just near to impossible as the owner would need to pay at least 100 BTC for all customers monthly.
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Oh well it was too good to be true

  Roll Eyes .Offering these rates for existing posts is just near to impossible as the owner would need to pay at least 100 BTC for all customers monthly.
That is one clue to it being a scam -- 'too good to be true' should ring loud alarm bells, much louder than the 'greed' people are feeling.

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January 09, 2014, 05:41:58 PM
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Why is this thread still not locked ?

Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams.

The guy admitted to be a scammer
He might be saying sarcastically (not saying he was, it can be interpreted in a way). What I noticed that the moderation policy is to controll objective problems such as spam, flame wars and leave any subjective problems for the users to fix. This is a libertarian oriented forum after all, freedom of action, speech and such.
He said that AND didn't pay anyone
Do you need more proof?
Read the  quoted post bellow:

Why is this thread still not locked ?

Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams.

The guy admitted to be a scammer
He might be saying sarcastically (not saying he was, it can be interpreted in a way). What I noticed that the moderation policy is to controll objective problems such as spam, flame wars and leave any subjective problems for the users to fix. This is a libertarian oriented forum after all, freedom of action, speech and such.

He wasn't saying it sarcastically; he was being mocking and just rubbing it in.

So is this actually a scammer-tolerant forum, i.e. scammers ain't banned, and their threads ain't locked? What other libertarianisms does it allow?

My goodness, I truly am a Lawful Good little mouse Tongue

The rules are somewhat paradoxical at times. Scammers usually aren’t banned but spammers sometimes are, and each mod has a different definition or what a actually spammer is.
The thing is that everything people say can be interpreted subjectively and such interpretation can be handled in a bad way. For example, let's say I post in a forum called TyrannyTalk that "I don't like that Steve guy" while Steve is a friend of the admin. The admin takes an alt army and slanders me with posts about me scamming users, presents faked proof. After that he orders the mods to ban me and poof, banned. See what I mean?

Meanwhile in BitcoinTalk people see a scammer and each user with different amounts of rep rates him appropriately. Another user dealing with him sees the ratings and makes a descision to trade with him or to cancel the deal.

The whole discussion started because he wasn't banned and the thread wasn't locked. I was talking about the policy, not separate cases. In this case, yeah, I know, he's a lowlife scammer, but the policy is that the community decides if he's guilty not the mods.

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January 09, 2014, 05:58:02 PM
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Oh well it was too good to be true

  Roll Eyes .Offering these rates for existing posts is just near to impossible as the owner would need to pay at least 100 BTC for all customers monthly.
That is one clue to it being a scam -- 'too good to be true' should ring loud alarm bells, much louder than the 'greed' people are feeling.

While this a good rule, most of the people I meet say Bitcoin sounds to good to be true and assume it's a scam  Cheesy.

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