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January 23, 2014, 03:36:26 AM
Last edit: January 23, 2014, 04:34:00 AM by bybitcoin
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I do not object to his cautious mentality, surely 45 BTC is too much money.
But I am not really interested, my last deal was with a guy buying 1.6 M for 84 BTC, he sent in two batches, each 42 BTC.
All I say is that if you do not know me or trust me, you better go and buy from some other seller with more patience.
I can not do 500K in 9 batches after my accounts being tested for half an hour, no insisting to sell!
Good day.


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I'm the one that bybitcoin is talking about here.

Bybitcoin, I'd like to point out that I emphasized in my PMs to you that I wanted to connect personally with you on phone or skype or something to work out the details of a deal, including who sends first, how much, and so forth. Instead your entire reply to me was:

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It is alright but you should send first.

Which comes across to me as arrogant, and you ordering me to send first. You may not actually be arrogant, or bossy, but that is how I interpreted your reply.

The way I see it, the potential deal we were talking about is worth more than many college graduates earn in an entire year, and I will treat it seriously and with respect. In my opinion, your approach is too casual.

And lets face it -- neither one of us are newbies in the bitcoin scene. I have a longer history of P2P trading than you, and you have shown a lot of passion and generosity in promoting and subsidizing the Nxt community. So neither one of us is some scrub in off the street trying to buy thousands worth via paypal.

I think it's great that you found someone else to send you BTC42 based on some PMs that you guys traded, and I'm glad it went well for both of you. Note, though, that this person is not willing to buy 500k NXT from you today.

There are only a handful of people around that trade in the sorts of volumes we're talking about here. It's really in everyone's interest to build relationships with others so that down the line when we want to move bitcoins or NXTs around, we have people we're comfortable doing business with that we can call on when needed.

Incidentally, I do sales for a living and have clients that spend annually anywhere from $10,000 and over $1 million with me. So I make my living making deals with people and building networks and relationships.

I judged, that based on your posting and trading history, the chance of something going wrong had I sent first was <2%. But the chance that my house burns down this year is <1% and I still buy insurance against that. I was more interested in talking to you and getting to know you than quibbling over do I send BTC5 or BTC25 at a time. But for a deal worth US$40,000, a phone call and 15 minutes of your time I do not think is too much to ask. Again, though, that's just how I do things in my real job and what I'm used to doing to put food on my table. So just like you don't want to spend an hour waiting for transactions to clear, I don't want to send BTC45 because I was ordered to in an 8-word long PM. Maybe our styles are just different.

Just sharing another perspective...
I didn't object to your behavior, I just cleared my position for future buyers who may come to me.
It may look as my arrogance, but that is my style, I have no time and patience for long and overdoing things, after all I am not a businessman like you are.
I hate complicated things, and I can not change myself. Nothing wrong if you can not trust me, but also nothing wrong if I can not handle an 11 steps complicated deal including phone call and personal contact with you, no matter how much the deal is worth!
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January 23, 2014, 05:20:14 AM
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I didn't object to your behavior, I just cleared my position for future buyers who may come to me.
It may look as my arrogance, but that is my style, I have no time and patience for long and overdoing things, after all I am not a businessman like you are.
I hate complicated things, and I can not change myself. Nothing wrong if you can not trust me, but also nothing wrong if I can not handle an 11 steps complicated deal including phone call and personal contact with you, no matter how much the deal is worth!

I understand. I hate farting around and wasting time also. Part of the reason why I like talking to people is that you can work out in 10 minutes what would take 2 hours trading PMs back and forth, so it's more efficient, and you can have a relationship that pays off in the future as well. Maybe you and I will work together some day down the line. You never know.

For anyone else reading, I am interested in purchasing about a half million NXT without screwing around. If you can sell 50,000 or more, please PM me.
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January 23, 2014, 05:30:51 AM
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Come on. Let set aside the emotion and make a cool deal. You should know that personal interaction is not favored in the crypto world.

I sent a bunch of money to bybitcoin and took 500k home not long ago. You could also do the same or at least offer to make two settlements. No one talks over the phone here, what if you are a tax agent?


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January 23, 2014, 09:46:12 AM
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Is there no trusted escrow operator like there is on the mastercoin thread? (I'm also after 500k NXT).
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January 23, 2014, 09:51:14 AM
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Is there no trusted escrow operator like there is on the mastercoin thread? (I'm also after 500k NXT).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
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January 23, 2014, 10:42:41 AM
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Is there no trusted escrow operator like there is on the mastercoin thread? (I'm also after 500k NXT).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041

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January 23, 2014, 11:30:41 AM
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Understand where you're coming from, but coming from a buyer's perspective...perhaps he just hasn't been on this forum enough to know.  If he really is seriously about investing 45btc, I too would want some extreme measures to ensure my investment is 100 percent secure.  

Best of luck with your sales! (I may be doing some purchasing with you shortly Smiley )
I do not object to his cautious mentality, surely 45 BTC is too much money.
But I am not really interested, my last deal was with a guy buying 1.6 M for 84 BTC, he sent in two batches, each 42 BTC.
All I say is that if you do not know me or trust me, you better go and buy from some other seller with more patience.
I can not do 500K in 9 batches after my accounts being tested for half an hour, no insisting to sell!
Good day.


Remembering my first deal I need to post this public thank you to aTriz for his patience.
I also suggested to divide the trade into three pieces. And also in case his account is hacked. The funniest part was that the whole deal was only 0.9 Btc Smiley
How stupid I was not buying more. I was waiting for Qrk and Zet pump and didn't want to sell them. I didn't expect that Nxt will cost 10 times more just a week later.

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January 23, 2014, 04:34:36 PM
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WTB 140k Nxt for 10.6 btc. I want to do it in one shot so one seller. Or make best offer. I will only send first to highly proven Nxt traders like lophie,

bybitcoin, etc. Or escrow with anon136. Thanks
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January 23, 2014, 11:07:41 PM
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Still want to buy 50-100k NXT.

Nearly only scammers offered me something :/
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January 23, 2014, 11:20:05 PM
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Still want to buy 50-100k NXT.

Nearly only scammers offered me something :/

so many buyers and no one wants to sell. i found this same problem when i ran my orderbook. i only ever found one seller the whole time.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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January 24, 2014, 03:27:24 AM
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But I am not really interested, my last deal was with a guy buying 1.6 M for 84 BTC, he sent in two batches, each 42 BTC.



confirmed, I did that deal with bybitcoin and risked sending 42 btc first. He delivered and is thus very trustworthy. Just gave him feedback on his trust page.
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January 24, 2014, 04:52:03 PM
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Still want to buy 50-100k NXT.

Nearly only scammers offered me something :/

so many buyers and no one wants to sell. i found this same problem when i ran my orderbook. i only ever found one seller the whole time.

This is true. Anyone selling NXT?
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January 24, 2014, 06:56:45 PM
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Still want to buy 50-100k NXT.

Nearly only scammers offered me something :/

so many buyers and no one wants to sell. i found this same problem when i ran my orderbook. i only ever found one seller the whole time.

This is true. Anyone selling NXT?

bter. Fees are minimal.

yea but thats the point. no one is selling small amounts in this thread anymore. i think i may buy a big bulk purchase just so that i can resell it to people in this thread for a small profit and to help the nxt community by lowering barriers to entry.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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January 24, 2014, 07:26:42 PM
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Still want to buy 50-100k NXT.

Nearly only scammers offered me something :/

so many buyers and no one wants to sell. i found this same problem when i ran my orderbook. i only ever found one seller the whole time.

This is true. Anyone selling NXT?

bter. Fees are minimal.

yea but thats the point. no one is selling small amounts in this thread anymore. i think i may buy a big bulk purchase just so that i can resell it to people in this thread for a small profit and to help the nxt community by lowering barriers to entry.
What's the point of selling small chunks here when bter fees are minimal and I could receive my btc withdrawal in 5 minutes??
I would still continue selling here, but only big chunks (>100K), interested buyers can pm me and ask.
But they should send btc first, we can do it publicly in 2 or 3 batches if it is a high volume purchase (>500K) and the buyer feels a bit unsafe, but no way to do it in more than 3 batches or through call or skype.. that is too sticky.
For smaller chunks I prefer to sell in bter and any future coming good exchange as well (excluding that opportunist dgex shit).
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January 24, 2014, 07:33:39 PM
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Still want to buy 50-100k NXT.

Nearly only scammers offered me something :/

so many buyers and no one wants to sell. i found this same problem when i ran my orderbook. i only ever found one seller the whole time.

This is true. Anyone selling NXT?

bter. Fees are minimal.

yea but thats the point. no one is selling small amounts in this thread anymore. i think i may buy a big bulk purchase just so that i can resell it to people in this thread for a small profit and to help the nxt community by lowering barriers to entry.
What's the point of selling small chunks here when bter fees are minimal and I could receive my btc withdrawal in 5 minutes??
I would still continue selling here, but only big chunks (>100K), interested buyers can pm me and ask.
But they should send btc first, we can do it publicly in 2 or 3 batches if it is a high volume purchase (>500K) and the buyer feels a bit unsafe, but no way to do it in more than 3 batches or through call or skype.. that is too sticky.
For smaller chunks I prefer to sell in bter and any future coming good exchange as well (excluding that opportunist dgex shit).

so you really dont think i would be adding any value at all to the community if i did a bulk purchase and than used that nxt to avail myself for small trades?

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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January 24, 2014, 07:38:27 PM
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Still want to buy 50-100k NXT.

Nearly only scammers offered me something :/

so many buyers and no one wants to sell. i found this same problem when i ran my orderbook. i only ever found one seller the whole time.

This is true. Anyone selling NXT?

bter. Fees are minimal.

yea but thats the point. no one is selling small amounts in this thread anymore. i think i may buy a big bulk purchase just so that i can resell it to people in this thread for a small profit and to help the nxt community by lowering barriers to entry.
What's the point of selling small chunks here when bter fees are minimal and I could receive my btc withdrawal in 5 minutes??
I would still continue selling here, but only big chunks (>100K), interested buyers can pm me and ask.
But they should send btc first, we can do it publicly in 2 or 3 batches if it is a high volume purchase (>500K) and the buyer feels a bit unsafe, but no way to do it in more than 3 batches or through call or skype.. that is too sticky.
For smaller chunks I prefer to sell in bter and any future coming good exchange as well (excluding that opportunist dgex shit).

so you really dont think i would be adding any value at all to the community if i did a bulk purchase and than used that nxt to avail myself for small trades?
That would be helpful and certainly will add some value, but yes I believe the positive effect would be minimal at this point.




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January 25, 2014, 01:38:41 AM
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Still want to buy 50-100k NXT.

Nearly only scammers offered me something :/

so many buyers and no one wants to sell. i found this same problem when i ran my orderbook. i only ever found one seller the whole time.

This is true. Anyone selling NXT?

bter. Fees are minimal.

yea but thats the point. no one is selling small amounts in this thread anymore. i think i may buy a big bulk purchase just so that i can resell it to people in this thread for a small profit and to help the nxt community by lowering barriers to entry.
What's the point of selling small chunks here when bter fees are minimal and I could receive my btc withdrawal in 5 minutes??
I would still continue selling here, but only big chunks (>100K), interested buyers can pm me and ask.
But they should send btc first, we can do it publicly in 2 or 3 batches if it is a high volume purchase (>500K) and the buyer feels a bit unsafe, but no way to do it in more than 3 batches or through call or skype.. that is too sticky.
For smaller chunks I prefer to sell in bter and any future coming good exchange as well (excluding that opportunist dgex shit).

so you really dont think i would be adding any value at all to the community if i did a bulk purchase and than used that nxt to avail myself for small trades?
That would be helpful and certainly will add some value, but yes I believe the positive effect would be minimal at this point.

I agree. This thread is useful for buying more than 100K at once, because you can't buy that much on Bter or Dgex without increasing the price. I tryed to buy 100K on Dgex for 0.00007 but volume was low and now price increased. Hope it'll go back to 0.00007-0.00008 and I'll be able to buy 100K here.

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January 25, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
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Selling up to 500K for today @0.00009 (purchases >= 100K only).
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January 27, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
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WTB 100k NXT @ 0.00008

PM me if interested.
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January 27, 2014, 11:58:31 PM
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I'm trying to buy some NXT.. I only have .05 BTC. I'm honestly not even sure how much NXT that is or how to even go about trading it. I do have a NXT wallet/account or whatever and a BTC wallet. Anybody that wants to trade, let me know.

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