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January 01, 2014, 10:16:00 PM
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Maybe the announcement for new client releases can be in this thread with the sha256 checksum and a link to those 3 downloads, then someone at admin/forums/www can then update the sites with the sha256 info?

What about putting the sha256 checksum into the block chain? The NXT software could then update itself.



It's already on the blockchain. Jean-Luc updates alias that contains version and checksum. I don't remember its name though.
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January 01, 2014, 10:22:09 PM
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About transparent mining.. is it possible for an attacker to see which node is going to forge the next block, and DDoS attack it down? Maybe move on to the next one and then the next one and go on so long that the transparent mining becomes useless?

EDIT: If transparent mining reveals the node's ability to forge, there's also the incentive to bring down large holders to improve your own forging income.
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January 01, 2014, 10:24:58 PM
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About transparent mining.. is it possible for an attacker to see which node is going to forge the next block, and DDoS attack it down? Maybe move on to the next one and then the next one and go on so long that the transparent mining becomes useless?

Yes he can predict the node which is going to forge the next block.

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January 01, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
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About transparent mining.. is it possible for an attacker to see which node is going to forge the next block, and DDoS attack it down? Maybe move on to the next one and then the next one and go on so long that the transparent mining becomes useless?

It's not possible yet. Later, when we switch from 4.25 tps to 1000 tps, forging nodes will be announcing gateways for incoming transactions. Anyway, these gateways will have ddos protection, so I don't think it's a big issue.
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January 01, 2014, 10:30:05 PM
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EDIT: If transparent mining reveals the node's ability to forge, there's also the incentive to bring down large holders to improve your own forging income.
how about this?
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January 01, 2014, 10:32:15 PM
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Password or this didn't happen. Smiley

One of my accounts was hacked: 2980315497189667873

Totally, absolutely, cross-my-fingers randomly generated password: boobs

Of course, I think it is hilarious he had to send in 1 NXT to spend the 1 NXT that was there.  I was saving that to register the alias 2girls1cup.

Edit: all joking aside, a great article, one which opened my eyes, is How the Bible and YouTube are fueling the next frontier of password cracking at Ars Technica


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January 01, 2014, 10:36:50 PM
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About transparent mining.. is it possible for an attacker to see which node is going to forge the next block, and DDoS attack it down? Maybe move on to the next one and then the next one and go on so long that the transparent mining becomes useless?

It's not possible yet. Later, when we switch from 4.25 tps to 1000 tps, forging nodes will be announcing gateways for incoming transactions. Anyway, these gateways will have ddos protection, so I don't think it's a big issue.

What do you mean with 4.25 tps to 1000 tps?

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January 01, 2014, 10:38:50 PM
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96.236.149.74 leeched more than 18 GiB of data... Anyone sees this zombie in their active peers? What r the numbers?

can you get us an API to pull active/inactive/blacklisted peers?  I can grep for it that way
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January 01, 2014, 10:39:19 PM
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EDIT: If transparent mining reveals the node's ability to forge, there's also the incentive to bring down large holders to improve your own forging income.
how about this?

This reminded me...

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase:

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After invading Greece and receiving the submission of other key city-states, Philip II of Macedon sent a message to Sparta: "If I win this war, you will be slaves forever." In another version, he warned: "You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city." According to both accounts, the Spartan ephors replied with one word: "If" (αἴκα).

PS: There is no way to find IP of a forging node if it wants to hide the address.
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January 01, 2014, 10:40:49 PM
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What do you mean with 4.25 tps to 1000 tps?

One of the killer features of Nxt is ability to process transactions at VISA rate (thousands per second).
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January 01, 2014, 10:41:33 PM
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96.236.149.74 leeched more than 18 GiB of data... Anyone sees this zombie in their active peers? What r the numbers?

can you get us an API to pull active/inactive/blacklisted peers?  I can grep for it that way

http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=getPeers
http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=getPeer&peer=96.236.149.74
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January 01, 2014, 10:42:02 PM
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EDIT: If transparent mining reveals the node's ability to forge, there's also the incentive to bring down large holders to improve your own forging income.
how about this?

This reminded me...

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase:

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After invading Greece and receiving the submission of other key city-states, Philip II of Macedon sent a message to Sparta: "If I win this war, you will be slaves forever." In another version, he warned: "You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city." According to both accounts, the Spartan ephors replied with one word: "If" (αἴκα).

PS: There is no way to find IP of a forging node if it wants to hide the address.

Even better: they cut off the other parts of the message and just sent back the word "if" Smiley

Spartans apparently recycled Wink

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January 01, 2014, 10:43:02 PM
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PS: There is no way to find IP of a forging node if it wants to hide the address.
ah cool, I didn't know that was possible.
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January 01, 2014, 10:44:38 PM
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One of the killer features of Nxt is ability to process transactions at VISA rate (thousands per second).

... and let the DDoS begin!!!  Wink

1000 tps requires just 1-10 Mbps link.
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January 01, 2014, 10:46:47 PM
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What do you mean with 4.25 tps to 1000 tps?

One of the killer features of Nxt is ability to process transactions at VISA rate (thousands per second).

that is really awesome and something Bitcoin cannot do currently.

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January 01, 2014, 10:47:37 PM
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Btw, any ideas how much the price will rise after VCs realize that Nxt is able to process 1000+ tps? 10x is min, imho. 100x-1000x is more likely...
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January 01, 2014, 10:48:10 PM
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What do you mean with 4.25 tps to 1000 tps?

One of the killer features of Nxt is ability to process transactions at VISA rate (thousands per second).

Honestly, I am still unsure about the whole the concept and implementation. But if it can be pulled though, it would be a not-small-technical achievement.
Can't wait. Do we have a time for the launch ?  


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January 01, 2014, 10:48:17 PM
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EDIT: If transparent mining reveals the node's ability to forge, there's also the incentive to bring down large holders to improve your own forging income.
how about this?

This reminded me...

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase:

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After invading Greece and receiving the submission of other key city-states, Philip II of Macedon sent a message to Sparta: "If I win this war, you will be slaves forever." In another version, he warned: "You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city." According to both accounts, the Spartan ephors replied with one word: "If" (αἴκα).

PS: There is no way to find IP of a forging node if it wants to hide the address.

Even better: they cut off the other parts of the message and just sent back the word "if" Smiley

Spartans apparently recycled Wink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molon_labe
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January 01, 2014, 10:50:42 PM
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Btw, any ideas how much the price will rise after VCs realize that Nxt is able to process 1000+ tps? 10x is min, imho. 100x-1000x is more likely...

vc = venture capitalists?

Or is that an acronym this soon-to-be-old dork isn't familiar with?
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January 01, 2014, 10:50:50 PM
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What about the nextern-holiday-fund? Is there someone organazing it so he can work on the client full time?
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