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January 01, 2014, 11:23:05 PM |
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Is a regular VPN service enough or do we need to chain proxies?
It's better to ask an old lady to host u own server in her flat for 100$ per month which is half of her pension. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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ZeroTheGreat
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January 01, 2014, 11:24:27 PM |
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I think this is the wrong way. what we need are clients that fore seamlessly, so even though the chance of winning will be minuscule, there will no no cost to forging, no barrier to entry so people will do it anyway. People pay to play the lottery now don't they? This lottery would be free to play, i think there is definitely some appeal there for users.
BCNext was forced to offer such the way coz small stakeholders won't bother with forging due to very high variation. Less coins forge - cheaper attacks. I don't really like pools for forging. This is like one step back to centralized system. I know we need to do something to allow small stakeholders to forge and get fee's everyday, but not this way. May be protocol-level p2p-pool? It kills both lottery-thing and dispersion, both or nothing ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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utopianfuture
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January 01, 2014, 11:28:50 PM |
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What about the nextern-holiday-fund? Is there someone organazing it so he can work on the client full time?
C'mon bitchizzz I have asked several stakeholders to lead a fund-raising but they do not seem to be interested. I would suggest nextern to sell his full-feature client instead of making it free. That would give him quite a sum for his work.
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January 01, 2014, 11:30:21 PM |
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I have asked several stakeholders to lead a fund-raising but they do not seem to be interested.
![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) unbelievable if true
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January 01, 2014, 11:32:39 PM |
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What about the nextern-holiday-fund? Is there someone organazing it so he can work on the client full time?
C'mon bitchizzz I have asked several stakeholders to lead a fund-raising but they do not seem to be interested. I would suggest nextern to sell his full-feature client instead of making it free. That would give him quite a sum for his work. Nxt won't succeed without a full functioning, user friendly client. I hope everyone is aware of this.
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utopianfuture
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January 01, 2014, 11:35:48 PM |
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I have asked several stakeholders to lead a fund-raising but they do not seem to be interested.
![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) unbelievable if true Well of course I am not lying.
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January 01, 2014, 11:36:33 PM Last edit: January 01, 2014, 11:56:00 PM by instacash |
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Well of course I am not lying.
I was referring to "do not seem to be" ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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January 01, 2014, 11:52:37 PM |
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can I get some SSH remote command help here? on a box, I can do lynx -dump http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=getPeer\&peer=79.102.159.249to see the stats for the 79.102.159.249 peer if it is connected. The results look like this (notice I had to escape the & there): {"platform":"?","application":"NRS","weight":0,"state":1,"announcedAddress":""," downloadedVolume":8758,"version":"0.4.7e","uploadedVolume":12675225}
why can I not use this to do a remote SSH command? root@vps1:~# ssh -i .ssh/vps root@vps1 lynx -dump http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=getPeer\&peer=79.102.159.249 {"errorCode":3,"errorDescription":"\"peer\" not specified"} root@vps1:~#
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utopianfuture
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January 01, 2014, 11:54:14 PM |
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Can't wait. Do we have a time for the launch ?
Full potential of TF will be unleashed step by step. We must build infrastructure and prepare for war against some big Bitcoin holders and then against some governments. Complete description of TF is held by few people, who will publish it if BCNext, me and Jean-Luc suddenly disappear.Is it a question ?
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January 01, 2014, 11:54:59 PM |
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What about the nextern-holiday-fund? Is there someone organazing it so he can work on the client full time?
C'mon bitchizzz I have asked several stakeholders to lead a fund-raising but they do not seem to be interested. I would suggest nextern to sell his full-feature client instead of making it free. That would give him quite a sum for his work. I know a couple stakeholders that have given 100k+ Nxt to nexern. One has set aside 250k for when the client is finished. I personally gave him 50k Nxt and plan to give him more when the client is done. I'm not a stakeholder by the way.
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January 01, 2014, 11:56:24 PM |
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What about the nextern-holiday-fund? Is there someone organazing it so he can work on the client full time?
C'mon bitchizzz I have asked several stakeholders to lead a fund-raising but they do not seem to be interested. I would suggest nextern to sell his full-feature client instead of making it free. That would give him quite a sum for his work. Nxt won't succeed without a full functioning, user friendly client. I hope everyone is aware of this. +100 If NXT is going to succeed, it needs mass adoption. I've got some IT background, but I've had a steep learning curve to climb over the last 10 days just to get the client up and running. There is no way that the average Facebook/email/Candycrush user is going to get into NXT if they have to write their own .bat files. And without a mass adoption, NXT is never going to be any more than a really amazing ALT-currency, not the only currency. In summary: one-click client = NXT success.
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January 01, 2014, 11:58:07 PM |
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CfB
Architecture question.
All nodes run the same software, each maintaining synchronized copy of blockchain Your reflex objection to any secondary authentication is that it can only be implemented using some sort of centralized method, defeating the robustness gained from the distributed nature.
I have been thinking about this at a high level this afternoon, so I am sure not all the details are right, but conceptually if we can implement a "centralized" type of action when all the nodes are running the same software and replicating the same dataset, then authentication could be implemented in a distributed context.
Correct or incorrect?
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January 01, 2014, 11:59:01 PM |
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What about the nextern-holiday-fund? Is there someone organazing it so he can work on the client full time?
C'mon bitchizzz I have asked several stakeholders to lead a fund-raising but they do not seem to be interested. I would suggest nextern to sell his full-feature client instead of making it free. That would give him quite a sum for his work. Nxt won't succeed without a full functioning, user friendly client. I hope everyone is aware of this. +100 If NXT is going to succeed, it needs mass adoption. I've got some IT background, but I've had a steep learning curve to climb over the last 10 days just to get the client up and running. There is no way that the average Facebook/email/Candycrush user is going to get into NXT if they have to write their own .bat files. And without a mass adoption, NXT is never going to be any more than a really amazing ALT-currency, not the only currency. In summary: one-click client = NXT success. Then you will like nexern's client.
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January 02, 2014, 12:01:22 AM |
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NXT has a single node each time a block is forged. Why can't all "centralized" actions be done by that lucky node?
With thousands of transactions, it might have to do a lot of work, but if the node that forges the block is responsible for validating all the transactions, then we can have a centralized action in a decentralized system.
I understand it will still require some pretty complicated code to implement, but doesn't this move it from "impossible" to "difficult"?
James
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January 02, 2014, 12:01:57 AM |
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What about the nextern-holiday-fund? Is there someone organazing it so he can work on the client full time?
C'mon bitchizzz I have asked several stakeholders to lead a fund-raising but they do not seem to be interested. I would suggest nextern to sell his full-feature client instead of making it free. That would give him quite a sum for his work. Nxt won't succeed without a full functioning, user friendly client. I hope everyone is aware of this. +100 If NXT is going to succeed, it needs mass adoption. I've got some IT background, but I've had a steep learning curve to climb over the last 10 days just to get the client up and running. There is no way that the average Facebook/email/Candycrush user is going to get into NXT if they have to write their own .bat files. And without a mass adoption, NXT is never going to be any more than a really amazing ALT-currency, not the only currency. In summary: one-click client = NXT success. Then you will like nexern's client. when will he release it?
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January 02, 2014, 12:03:22 AM |
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What about the nextern-holiday-fund? Is there someone organazing it so he can work on the client full time?
C'mon bitchizzz I have asked several stakeholders to lead a fund-raising but they do not seem to be interested. I would suggest nextern to sell his full-feature client instead of making it free. That would give him quite a sum for his work. Nxt won't succeed without a full functioning, user friendly client. I hope everyone is aware of this. +100 If NXT is going to succeed, it needs mass adoption. I've got some IT background, but I've had a steep learning curve to climb over the last 10 days just to get the client up and running. There is no way that the average Facebook/email/Candycrush user is going to get into NXT if they have to write their own .bat files. And without a mass adoption, NXT is never going to be any more than a really amazing ALT-currency, not the only currency. In summary: one-click client = NXT success. Then you will like nexern's client. If.
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January 02, 2014, 12:04:09 AM |
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I made these for friends and family. They are all like "why didnt you tell me about bitcoin earlier", well this time they wont have any excuses. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs22.postimg.org%2F6pucgq1j5%2FIMG_20140101_185142.jpg&t=665&c=JnA8HTPqu9zgTQ)
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Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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January 02, 2014, 12:05:59 AM |
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If NXT is going to succeed, it needs mass adoption. I've got some IT background, but I've had a steep learning curve to climb over the last 10 days just to get the client up and running.
There is no way that the average Facebook/email/Candycrush user is going to get into NXT if they have to write their own .bat files. And without a mass adoption, NXT is never going to be any more than a really amazing ALT-currency, not the only currency.
In summary: one-click client = NXT success.
We already have 1 click installers for Windows and MAC OS X.
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January 02, 2014, 12:08:19 AM |
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What about the nextern-holiday-fund? Is there someone organazing it so he can work on the client full time?
C'mon bitchizzz I have asked several stakeholders to lead a fund-raising but they do not seem to be interested. I would suggest nextern to sell his full-feature client instead of making it free. That would give him quite a sum for his work. I know a couple stakeholders that have given 100k+ Nxt to nexern. One has set aside 250k for when the client is finished. I personally gave him 50k Nxt and plan to give him more when the client is done. I'm not a stakeholder by the way. The big stakeholder I asksed has not contributed anything. But I think nexern will be fine for now. Let's see what he is delivering first.
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