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November 27, 2013, 08:13:08 AM
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As a preliminary measure, I stuck all posts in the nxt thread that  are relevant to nxt's pos algorithm in a word document.
I stopped combing through the thread at the point of the nxtguy's disappearance.

I'm going to summarize this information in bullet point form in a new thread. I hope you guys can go through the bullet points to check for obvious inaccuracies.

Before i do this... Comefrombeyond, do any protocol modifications occur after the nxtguy goes AWOL?

Not sure. But I did see numbers like 1440 and 720 in disassembled sources. If u need to get answers, send me questions and I'll resend them to BCNext. Hurry up, I'm not sure how long it will take until he starts thinking that I'm a KGB agent.
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November 27, 2013, 08:38:21 AM
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As a preliminary measure, I stuck all posts in the nxt thread that  are relevant to nxt's pos algorithm in a word document.
I stopped combing through the thread at the point of the nxtguy's disappearance.

I'm going to summarize this information in bullet point form in a new thread. I hope you guys can go through the bullet points to check for obvious inaccuracies.

Before i do this... Comefrombeyond, do any protocol modifications occur after the nxtguy goes AWOL?

Not sure. But I did see numbers like 1440 and 720 in disassembled sources. If u need to get answers, send me questions and I'll resend them to BCNext. Hurry up, I'm not sure how long it will take until he starts thinking that I'm a KGB agent.

If he is likely to vanish completely, we should get our priorities straight. Forget about questions.
We need the source code or the project is dead in the water.

He promised to release the source code in two months, correct? Could you convince him to do that now instead? Or if not, could you get him to do the following:

a) encrypt the source code and upload the encrypted file in some publically accessible location
b) send the encryption key to a trusted third party. (e.g you, me, or anyone else)

That way we can remain in buisiness after he goes silent.

PS nxtguy, if you are listening, releasing the source code would reduce incentives to try to determine your identity. Both for the KGB and regular old forum users.
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November 27, 2013, 09:08:51 AM
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If he is likely to vanish completely, we should get our priorities straight. Forget about questions.
We need the source code or the project is dead in the water.

He promised to release the source code in two months, correct? Could you convince him to do that now instead? Or if not, could you get him to do the following:

a) encrypt the source code and upload the encrypted file in some publically accessible location
b) send the encryption key to a trusted third party. (e.g you, me, or anyone else)

That way we can remain in buisiness after he goes silent.

PS nxtguy, if you are listening, releasing the source code would reduce incentives to try to determine your identity. Both for the KGB and regular old forum users.

Thats a good Idea!
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November 27, 2013, 09:11:09 AM
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He promised to release the source code in two months, correct? Could you convince him to do that now instead?

I managed to convince him to reveal some pieces of code. This won't allow to clone Nxt but still help to review it and help to fix bugs. So, what do we need? I'll create a dedicated thead.
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November 27, 2013, 09:21:20 AM
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He promised to release the source code in two months, correct? Could you convince him to do that now instead?

I managed to convince him to reveal some pieces of code.  

You mean "I managed to convince him to reveal some pieces of code right now and the rest in two months," correct?

What if there is a malicious payload hidden in the software? Bitcoin users are paranoid for a reason.
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November 27, 2013, 09:31:55 AM
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You mean "I managed to convince him to reveal some pieces of code right now and the rest in two months," correct?

What if there is a malicious payload hidden in the software? Bitcoin users are paranoid for a reason.

Correct. But stakeholders r supposed to vote if the whole sources will be revealed on the 3rd of Jan. They may decide to postpone that.

Well, fast skimming thru the binary didn't show "wallet.dat" string Smiley
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November 27, 2013, 09:51:21 AM
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You mean "I managed to convince him to reveal some pieces of code right now and the rest in two months," correct?

What if there is a malicious payload hidden in the software? Bitcoin users are paranoid for a reason.

Correct. But stakeholders r supposed to vote if the whole sources will be revealed on the 3rd of Jan. They may decide to postpone that.

Well, fast skimming thru the binary didn't show "wallet.dat" string Smiley

Got it. I advise everyone to run this on a low-value computer (something that you don't mind getting cryptolocked) or via the webclient until the source is released.

Posted a thread for documenting answers to basic questions about Nxt.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348625.msg3733803#msg3733803
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November 27, 2013, 10:27:23 AM
Last edit: November 29, 2013, 11:36:06 AM by bybitcoin
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This is great: I slept for a while and now I see Cunicula has started working on the paper already!
As the guy who asked about a limited closed source from BCNext directly and then after his disappearance again, I believe it is much safer if BCNext gives a copy of the open source code to Come-from-Beyond for extreme scenario cases, and also I don't see any problem if Come-from-Beyond let
Cunicula know the detailed content of the source code to shape the whitepaper!
We just want it not to be publicly published until the 3rd of January, because at this stage a copy-cat clone could easily hurt Nxt economy.

@The Chinese guy who opened the Nxt thread in the Chinese section: while it is not related to the Chinese translation of the general article bounty, but if you continue to present Nxt on that thread and answer Chinese members' questions about this project well (we will have another Chinese to audit and check it later), we can award you 50K Nxt after certain period of time. But you should make that thread clear, up-to-date, by presenting correct information to the audience and direct them to Nxt main threads, this bounty thread, the big giveaway thread, the main trading thread, or the exchange site which should come up very soon. If you are ready to do this, please quote this post.
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November 27, 2013, 10:39:35 AM
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Where should I transfer the 150K to?
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November 27, 2013, 10:53:52 AM
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Where should I transfer the 150K to?
Sending you my 150K part...
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November 27, 2013, 11:01:29 AM
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Where should I transfer the 150K to?
Sending you my 150K part...
I guess you can keep them yet, I trust your promises and I have the 1M Nxt backup myself!
When Cunicula got it done, we can pool up our donations or send him directly. This way is more transparent.
@klee: I ll need your help for the giveaway soon. Please pm me when you can start assisting.
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November 27, 2013, 11:05:08 AM
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Do u mind if I pay u in advance? (I may lose these coins or someone could stole them). Post here ur account id if u don't.
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November 27, 2013, 11:14:02 AM
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Do u mind if I pay u in advance? (I may lose these coins or someone could stole them). Post here ur account id if u don't.
That's a good idea. I can also pay you in advance. Cunicula post your address and I ll send you 300k.
We can trust you for completing the whitepaper!
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November 27, 2013, 11:15:16 AM
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The same on my side..
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November 27, 2013, 11:43:29 AM
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He promised to release the source code in two months, correct? Could you convince him to do that now instead?

I managed to convince him to reveal some pieces of code. This won't allow to clone Nxt but still help to review it and help to fix bugs. So, what do we need? I'll create a dedicated thead.
He should still think about setting up a dead man switch, e.g. using http://www.deadmansswitch.net/ , and give you an encrypted copy of the complete code. Then, if he suddenly disappears (or the KGB finally gets to him...), you will receive an email with the encryption key.

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November 28, 2013, 12:57:16 PM
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This is my nxt account number:

12898636000396314855
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November 28, 2013, 01:22:39 PM
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This is my nxt account number:

12898636000396314855

http://88.198.210.245:7876/?request=getTransaction&transaction=17799057860162530752

Thank u in advance.
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November 28, 2013, 03:27:10 PM
Last edit: November 28, 2013, 03:53:33 PM by klee
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This is my nxt account number:

12898636000396314855
Send you mine too.
Thanks for you efforts!

EDIT: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=13628614126839729793
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November 28, 2013, 03:40:29 PM
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This is my nxt account number:

12898636000396314855
I sent you 300K Nxt that I promised before!
Please keep the hard work to make the paper ready ASAP Wink
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November 28, 2013, 04:02:43 PM
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Posted to my Blog, will continue to post each day the progress of Next as well as my progression through the project. Please send donations as I intend on sharing with visitors and colleagues to get theme involved.

http://www.coinwith.me/project/next-coin/

Here's my NXT Account: 1881317617924471615

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