DIY FPGA Mining rig for any algorithm with fast ROI

[zbutterfly]

Anyone test with nexys ? How hashrate? This is the stuff https://store.digilentinc.com/nexys-video-artix-7-fpga-trainer-board-for-multimedia-applications/

no but we are testing the FPGA of Intel FPGA cards, so far they doing better then the xilinx
https://nocroom.com/fpga

So expensively bro

[mroth76842]

Has any information come out on the Bittware xupvv4 FPGAs? timeframe? price? Are there any group buys planned for them?

[mineroc]

Anyone test with nexys ? How hashrate? This is the stuff https://store.digilentinc.com/nexys-video-artix-7-fpga-trainer-board-for-multimedia-applications/

I got one way back when white listed it as a possibility.  ROI was about the same as the xilinx per his numbers.  Been collecting dust as I hope white will have time to release bitstreams some day

[Hueristic]

Anyone test with nexys ? How hashrate? This is the stuff https://store.digilentinc.com/nexys-video-artix-7-fpga-trainer-board-for-multimedia-applications/

no but we are testing the FPGA of Intel FPGA cards, so far they doing better then the xilinx
https://nocroom.com/fpga

Nice...the intel fpga´s have high potential   ... but the price for a Stratix 10 is so high .

Do you ever tested the Intel XEON CPU with integrated fpga ?

This?



https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/programmable/products/boards_and_kits/dev-kits/altera/kit-a10-gx-fpga.html

Or do you mean this CPU?



With the same FPGA built in.

She says the new product consists of a Xeon Scalable Processor 6138P (Gold) processor hooked up to an Arria 10 GX 1150 FPGA on the same package.

https://www.top500.org/news/intel-ships-xeon-skylake-processor-with-integrated-fpga/

The first doesn't have the memory I would say and where is the second? I guess it does.

2GB DDR4 SDRAM, 2GB DDR3 SDRAM

Funny I was thinking using all ddr4 was not cost effective nor needed (?).

It would have to be an entire system build per chip?

I don't even want to know what they are charging for that chip, probably $10k+

[majlkcze]

Anyone test with nexys ? How hashrate? This is the stuff https://store.digilentinc.com/nexys-video-artix-7-fpga-trainer-board-for-multimedia-applications/

no but we are testing the FPGA of Intel FPGA cards, so far they doing better then the xilinx
https://nocroom.com/fpga

Nice...the intel fpga´s have high potential   ... but the price for a Stratix 10 is so high .

Do you ever tested the Intel XEON CPU with integrated fpga ?

This?

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/altera-www/global/en_US/images/products/devkits/altera/images/arria10_fpga_kit.jpg

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/programmable/products/boards_and_kits/dev-kits/altera/kit-a10-gx-fpga.html

Or do you mean this CPU?

https://www.top500.org/static/media/uploads/.thumbnails/xeon-fpga-front.jpg/xeon-fpga-front-360x485.jpg

With the same FPGA built in.

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/altera-www/global/en_US/support/boards-kits/arria10/FPGA/arria_10_fpga_diagram_updated.png

She says the new product consists of a Xeon Scalable Processor 6138P (Gold) processor hooked up to an Arria 10 GX 1150 FPGA on the same package.

https://www.top500.org/news/intel-ships-xeon-skylake-processor-with-integrated-fpga/

The first doesn't have the memory I would say and where is the second? I guess it does.

2GB DDR4 SDRAM, 2GB DDR3 SDRAM

Funny I was thinking using all ddr4 was not cost effective nor needed (?).

It would have to be an entire system build per chip?

I don't even want to know what they are charging for that chip, probably $10k+

Wow the Intel XEON with ingegrated Arria 10 GX 1150 FPGA is killer!

Did anyone tryed low-end Xilinx chips like "Artix 7 XC7A200T" ? It can be bought real cheap and maybe stacked to bigger FPGA cluster, It is also awailable from Ztex as module 2.18b, I would be interested in hashrates that one small fpga can make.

[R0land]

Anyone test with nexys ? How hashrate? This is the stuff https://store.digilentinc.com/nexys-video-artix-7-fpga-trainer-board-for-multimedia-applications/

no but we are testing the FPGA of Intel FPGA cards, so far they doing better then the xilinx
https://nocroom.com/fpga

Nice...the intel fpga´s have high potential   ... but the price for a Stratix 10 is so high .

Do you ever tested the Intel XEON CPU with integrated fpga ?

This?



https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/programmable/products/boards_and_kits/dev-kits/altera/kit-a10-gx-fpga.html

Or do you mean this CPU?



With the same FPGA built in.

She says the new product consists of a Xeon Scalable Processor 6138P (Gold) processor hooked up to an Arria 10 GX 1150 FPGA on the same package.

https://www.top500.org/news/intel-ships-xeon-skylake-processor-with-integrated-fpga/

The first doesn't have the memory I would say and where is the second? I guess it does.

2GB DDR4 SDRAM, 2GB DDR3 SDRAM

Funny I was thinking using all ddr4 was not cost effective nor needed (?).

It would have to be an entire system build per chip?

I don't even want to know what they are charging for that chip, probably $10k+

I mean the cpu Xeon 6138P.
The price is $4937 !  

[R0land]

Anyone test with nexys ? How hashrate? This is the stuff https://store.digilentinc.com/nexys-video-artix-7-fpga-trainer-board-for-multimedia-applications/

no but we are testing the FPGA of Intel FPGA cards, so far they doing better then the xilinx
https://nocroom.com/fpga

Nice...the intel fpga´s have high potential   ... but the price for a Stratix 10 is so high .

Do you ever tested the Intel XEON CPU with integrated fpga ?

This?



https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/programmable/products/boards_and_kits/dev-kits/altera/kit-a10-gx-fpga.html

Or do you mean this CPU?



With the same FPGA built in.

She says the new product consists of a Xeon Scalable Processor 6138P (Gold) processor hooked up to an Arria 10 GX 1150 FPGA on the same package.

https://www.top500.org/news/intel-ships-xeon-skylake-processor-with-integrated-fpga/

The first doesn't have the memory I would say and where is the second? I guess it does.

2GB DDR4 SDRAM, 2GB DDR3 SDRAM

Funny I was thinking using all ddr4 was not cost effective nor needed (?).

It would have to be an entire system build per chip?

I don't even want to know what they are charging for that chip, probably $10k+

Wow the Intel XEON with ingegrated Arria 10 GX 1150 FPGA is killer!

Did anyone tryed low-end Xilinx chips like "Artix 7 XC7A200T" ? It can be bought real cheap and maybe stacked to bigger FPGA cluster, It is also awailable from Ztex as module 2.18b, I would be interested in hashrates that one small fpga can make.

Look at the Acorn´s, they have Artix 7 inside.

[Hueristic]

I mean the cpu Xeon 6138P.
The price is $4937 !  

Does it have that FPGA built in because I don't see that on the spec sheet.
https://ark.intel.com/products/139940/Intel-Xeon-Gold-6138P-Processor-27_5M-Cache-2_00-GHz?wapkw=xeon+6138p

The chip I linked has a Xeon 6138P linked with a Arria 10 GX 1150.

I don't even know what the model numbers are or where you can get one if at all.

OK the internal code name for this processor is Purley.



https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/design/products-and-solutions/processors-and-chipsets/purley/intel-xeon-scalable-processors.html

Here is where you can request a sample or try to buy one.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/design/products-and-solutions/processors-and-chipsets/purley/sample-and-buy.html

[stash2coin]

Going through the FPGAs board manufacturers came across the HMC(Hybrid Memory Cube) http://static6.arrow.com/aropdfconversion/a034c723e572f45efe84162a58a14f71cedf33fa/hmc_webinar_july_2017.pdf.pdf promising technology basically coupled with UlTraScale FPGA or Intels Aria 10 FPGA you have the bandwidth and capacity to crunch any memory hard algo more efficiently than GPUs and even todays ASICs. Its supper expensive compared to ddr3-4 but in long term investment will return its money

[RivAngE]

Going through the FPGAs board manufacturers came across the HMC(Hybrid Memory Cube) http://static6.arrow.com/aropdfconversion/a034c723e572f45efe84162a58a14f71cedf33fa/hmc_webinar_july_2017.pdf.pdf promising technology basically coupled with UlTraScale FPGA or Intels Aria 10 FPGA you have the bandwidth and capacity to crunch any memory hard algo more efficiently than GPUs and even todays ASICs. Its supper expensive compared to ddr3-4 but in long term investment will return its money

This PDF you linked is a bit... "too much technical talk"... but from what I get they're describing this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_XPoint which is around some time now (the PDF you shared is from a year ago).
I know Intel is using this technology but it's veeeery expensive and I can't see it being used for mining anytime soon. I didn't know Micron has something similar too though, thanks for that!

In any case, this is not an FPGA-specific feature. It's a technology; and since Micron is in collaboration with Nvidia, if this technology becomes mainstream then expect to see this kind of memory implemented it in RTX 2180ti or something.

[senseless]

Going through the FPGAs board manufacturers came across the HMC(Hybrid Memory Cube) http://static6.arrow.com/aropdfconversion/a034c723e572f45efe84162a58a14f71cedf33fa/hmc_webinar_july_2017.pdf.pdf promising technology basically coupled with UlTraScale FPGA or Intels Aria 10 FPGA you have the bandwidth and capacity to crunch any memory hard algo more efficiently than GPUs and even todays ASICs. Its supper expensive compared to ddr3-4 but in long term investment will return its money

This PDF you linked is a bit... "too much technical talk"... but from what I get they're describing this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_XPoint which is around some time now (the PDF you shared is from a year ago).
I know Intel is using this technology but it's veeeery expensive and I can't see it being used for mining anytime soon. I didn't know Micron has something similar too though, thanks for that!

In any case, this is not an FPGA-specific feature. It's a technology; and since Micron is in collaboration with Nvidia, if this technology becomes mainstream then expect to see this kind of memory implemented it in RTX 2180ti or something.

HMC lost it's battle to HBM2. Micron discontinued the HMC as far as I know. HMC isn't the best for mining but isn't the worst either. Last I checked the older model HMC stock was about $500 a unit. If those could be picked up for $50 a unit it would be worth it. The older micron HMC is only using 16Gbit/s per pin pair - With the newer communications methods it's possible to get 4x that bandwidth per pin-pair (we'd be talking 1Tbit/s bandwidth instead of 250Gbit/s bandwidth). If they made a new version of the HMC using the updated communications methods / protocols and the device was relatively low cost for 4-8GByte units ($250) -- We'd have something that was really interesting to add on the FPGA.

[stash2coin]

On Micron site it doesnt says its discontinued just not in mass production, also for HBM you need interposer because of the number of IO pins which is still an exotic solution anyway the technology exist it may become more viable in the future.

EDIT digikey says its active, but you have a minimum quantity times around $500 thats a lot of money but if i was going to build own FPGA farm will consider this option too.

[Hueristic]

Going through the FPGAs board manufacturers came across the HMC(Hybrid Memory Cube) http://static6.arrow.com/aropdfconversion/a034c723e572f45efe84162a58a14f71cedf33fa/hmc_webinar_july_2017.pdf.pdf promising technology basically coupled with UlTraScale FPGA or Intels Aria 10 FPGA you have the bandwidth and capacity to crunch any memory hard algo more efficiently than GPUs and even todays ASICs. Its supper expensive compared to ddr3-4 but in long term investment will return its money

This PDF you linked is a bit... "too much technical talk"... but from what I get they're describing this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_XPoint which is around some time now (the PDF you shared is from a year ago).
I know Intel is using this technology but it's veeeery expensive and I can't see it being used for mining anytime soon. I didn't know Micron has something similar too though, thanks for that!

In any case, this is not an FPGA-specific feature. It's a technology; and since Micron is in collaboration with Nvidia, if this technology becomes mainstream then expect to see this kind of memory implemented it in RTX 2180ti or something.

HMC lost it's battle to HBM2. Micron discontinued the HMC as far as I know. HMC isn't the best for mining but isn't the worst either. Last I checked the older model HMC stock was about $500 a unit. If those could be picked up for $50 a unit it would be worth it. The older micron HMC is only using 16Gbit/s per pin pair - With the newer communications methods it's possible to get 4x that bandwidth per pin-pair (we'd be talking 1Tbit/s bandwidth instead of 250Gbit/s bandwidth). If they made a new version of the HMC using the updated communications methods / protocols and the device was relatively low cost for 4-8GByte units ($250) -- We'd have something that was really interesting to add on the FPGA.

Just to ELI5 this for you guys, this is 3d memory (3d is the next iteration in the industry), IOw it is stacked and just like in the old days where Rambus lost to ddr it is not always the fastest product that wins but the most cost effective.



Well it's not always the most cost effective either as monopolies are capable of pushing whatever they want and crushing far superior products. But thats just a side effect of the system we live in.

[senseless]

Going through the FPGAs board manufacturers came across the HMC(Hybrid Memory Cube) http://static6.arrow.com/aropdfconversion/a034c723e572f45efe84162a58a14f71cedf33fa/hmc_webinar_july_2017.pdf.pdf promising technology basically coupled with UlTraScale FPGA or Intels Aria 10 FPGA you have the bandwidth and capacity to crunch any memory hard algo more efficiently than GPUs and even todays ASICs. Its supper expensive compared to ddr3-4 but in long term investment will return its money

This PDF you linked is a bit... "too much technical talk"... but from what I get they're describing this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_XPoint which is around some time now (the PDF you shared is from a year ago).
I know Intel is using this technology but it's veeeery expensive and I can't see it being used for mining anytime soon. I didn't know Micron has something similar too though, thanks for that!

In any case, this is not an FPGA-specific feature. It's a technology; and since Micron is in collaboration with Nvidia, if this technology becomes mainstream then expect to see this kind of memory implemented it in RTX 2180ti or something.

HMC lost it's battle to HBM2. Micron discontinued the HMC as far as I know. HMC isn't the best for mining but isn't the worst either. Last I checked the older model HMC stock was about $500 a unit. If those could be picked up for $50 a unit it would be worth it. The older micron HMC is only using 16Gbit/s per pin pair - With the newer communications methods it's possible to get 4x that bandwidth per pin-pair (we'd be talking 1Tbit/s bandwidth instead of 250Gbit/s bandwidth). If they made a new version of the HMC using the updated communications methods / protocols and the device was relatively low cost for 4-8GByte units ($250) -- We'd have something that was really interesting to add on the FPGA.

Just to ELI5 this for you guys, this is 3d memory (3d is the next iteration in the industry), IOw it is stacked and just like in the old days where Rambus lost to ddr it is not always the fastest product that wins but the most cost effective.



Well it's not always the most cost effective either as monopolies are capable of pushing whatever they want and crushing far superior products. But thats just a side effect of the system we live in.

Neat, they did make a unit with 32Gb serdes. Guess they never entered mass production? Or is that just HMC working group specification? No one actually made it?

[Hueristic]

Neat, they did make a unit with 32Gb serdes. Guess they never entered mass production? Or is that just HMC working group specification? No one actually made it?

Sorry, I have no clue. What type of unit was prototyped, GPU?

[whitefire990]

Hi everyone,

    I represent a Montreal based company offering 100% plug and play mining solutions.  We now offer a new line of FPGA models (2,4,6, or 8 cards).

    Currently, the algorithms we support are :

            1-Ethash (ETH, ETC, etc...) 1.9 GH/s per card (16Gb)

            2-Keccak (Smartcash, Maxcoin) 17 GH/s per card (16Gb)

            3-Tribus (Denarius, Virtus) 2.1 GH/s per card (16Gb)

            4-Phi1612 (Luxcoin, Folm) 650 MH/s per card (16Gb)

            5-Skunhash (Multiple coins) 1.3 GH/s per card (16Gb)


    We are based in Montreal, however can accommodate orders anywhere across the world (additional fees may apply for installation).

    We offer high grade hardware, 60 day 100% satisfaction guarantee or your money back (minus mining profits), and 36 months of home service guarantee for parts and labor.

    Delivery time frame is 7 to 8 weeks from date of invoice

    We do not sell cards, we offer the 100% turnkey solution
   
    If you would like more information regarding our solutions, please pm. (serious inquiries only)

This guy is a known scammer.  Moderators please delete.

[whitefire990]

@Whitefire990- You definitely have me mixed up with someone else.  This is my first time on this forum, and I can assure you the offer mentioned above is a legitimate one.  If you have any concerns, let me know.

I know exactly who you are, the same guy who has been posting these fake Ethereum hash rates on various facebook groups, and cut-and-pasting hash rates from my original post in this thread.  We contacted Xilinx and they have no idea who you are either.

If you were real, you would know that Phi1612, Keccak and Skunkhash are now obsolete algorithms, anyone claiming to 'support' or promote algorithms upon which there are no coins to mine obviously has no idea about the crypto space and is not a developer.  Not to mention anything over 100MH/s Ethereum on an FPGA is not possible due to memory bandwidth.

[Hueristic]

@Whitefire990- You definitely have me mixed up with someone else.  This is my first time on this forum, and I can assure you the offer mentioned above is a legitimate one.  If you have any concerns, let me know.

I know exactly who you are, the same guy who has been posting these fake Ethereum hash rates on various facebook groups, and cut-and-pasting hash rates from my original post in this thread.  We contacted Xilinx and they have no idea who you are either.

If you were real, ..

Never tell a scammer what they are doing wrong.

[pikachuy]

This looks interesting: https://store.mineority.io/sqrl/cvp13/

[PigeonLaughter]

This looks interesting: https://store.mineority.io/sqrl/cvp13/

Indeed it is! The Bittware Crypto VU13P with water cooling is coming boys and girls! An email from Bittware said expect pre-orders to start tomorrow at noon.