KnC Miner list of orders - Neptune

[Tigggger]

Hello,

The goal of this topic is to list the orders from KNCminer for the new Neptune.
Please only post paid orders.


Give your :
Order number (Without the last digit eg 1234x)
Date of payment
Method of Payment
Number of machines ordered.
Delivery Country

Thanks for your participation.

NOTE: While the list is still being compiled I will be deleting all posts to make it simpler for me to keep track.  Once done will leave it alone for any discussion.

Updade: Changed from Order Date to Payment Date as that's what matters, added payment method

Update: 3rd Jan:
KNC are referring to the current batch as batch #2, but that's very confusing as there have been 3 so I am using the following
Batch #1 = 1,200 units available to previous customers @ $10,000
Batch #2 = 1,200 units available for anyone @ $13,000
Batch #3 = 1,200 units available for anyone @ $10,000

Username	Order Number	Payment Date	Payment Type	Number Ordered	Destination	Date Received
Batch 1
Phoenix1969	1108x	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA	Delivered
r1senfal17h	1109x	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA
r1senfal17h	1110x	26 November	Wire Transfer	1	USA
Tigggger	1112x	26 November	Bitpay	1	UK	24th June
xxaudioxx	1115x	26 November		1	Philippines
bobsag3	1115x	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA
Crypto_Cumbrian	1116x	26 November		1	UK
smracer	1118x	26 November	Bitpay	10	USA
WastedLTC	111xx	26 November		1	USA
Wesley	111xx	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA
Wesley	111xx	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA
Wesley	111xx	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA
KnCMiningOp	1120x	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA	Delivered
bobko	1124x	26 November	Bitpay	1	Slovakia
CYPER	1127x	28 November	Bitpay	1	UK
server	112xx	26 November	Bitpay	2	NL
Swiss_Love	112xx	26 November	Bitpay	2	Switzerland
--anon--	112xx	26 November	Bitpay	2	Spain
dynamike23	112xx	26 November	Wire Transfer	3	Canada
fubly	1134x	28 November	Wire Transfer	1	Germany
onscreen	1135x	28 November	Wire Transfer	1	UK
fubly	1137x	28 November	Wire Transfer	1	Germany
xstr8guy	113xx	26 November		1	USA
fubly	1140x	28 November	Bitpay	1	Germany
Kneedle	1142x	26 November	Bitpay	3	USA
btctycoon	114xx	26 November	Wire Transfer	1	Finland
CeeCee	115xx	26 November	Bitpay	2	Germany
Pt0x	115xx	26 November	Bitpay	1	Venezuela	2nd July
Dek52	1164x	26 November	??	2	??
DomenicoRomano	116xx	26 November		2	USA
akhentek	1179x	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA
bobsag3	1190x	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA
Charles999	119xx	26 November	??	1+	??
akhentek	1206x	26 November	Bitpay	3	USA
lmontrose	120xx	26 November	Bitpay	1	UK
akhentek	1210x	26 November	Wire Transfer	1	USA
Phoenix1969	1213x	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA	Delivered
akhentek	1213x	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA
Scoobypup	1213x	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA
akhentek	1218x	27 November	Wire Transfer	1	USA
akhentek	1219x	27 November	Wire Transfer	1	USA
Templer	121xx	26 November	Bitpay	1	Switzerland
akhentek	1221x	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA
gudmunsn	1224x	26 November	Bitpay	2	USA
Slartybardfast	122xx	26 November		1	UK
Slartybardfast	122xx	27 November		1	UK
akhentek	1233x	27 November	Wire Transfer	2	USA
Spieder	1234x	4 December	Wire Transfer	1	USA
Nemo1024	1235x	26 November	Bitpay	1	Norway
elchorizo	123xx	26 November	Wire Transfer	1	USA
Zelek Uther	1240x	28 November	Wire Transfer	1	New Zealand	2nd July
akhentek	1243x	27 November	Wire Transfer	1	USA
akhentek	1245x	27 November	Wire Transfer	1	USA
RenHoek	124xx	28 November	Bitpay	1	Germany
shmadz	124xx	27 November	Bitpay	1	Canada
Phoenix1969	1254x	27 November	Bitpay	1	USA
Scoobypup	1258x	27 November	Bitpay	2	USA
Scoobypup	1259x	27 November	Bitpay	1	USA
wpgdeez	125xx	26 November		1	Canada
mxz280	126xx	27 November	Bitpay	1	China
lmontrose	126xx	26 November	Bitpay	3	UK
cz_miner	126xx	27 November	Wire Transfer	12	Czech Republic
cap1	127xx	27 November		2	UK
CYPER	127xx	27 November	Wire Transfer	2	UK
nfuse	128xx	27 November	Bitpay	1	Netherlands
Chrono030	129xx	28 November	Bitpay	1	USA
bobko	1300x	28 November	Bitpay	1	Slovakia
TaggedYa	130xx	28 November	Bitpay	2	USA
TaggedYa	130xx	29 November	Wire Transfer	4	USA
cz_miner	130xx	28 November	Wire Transfer	8	Czech Republic
KnCMiningOp	1311x	26 November	Bitpay	1	USA	Delivered
phrog	1313x	28 November	Bitpay	1	USA	29th June
phrog	1315x	28 November	Bitpay	1	USA	29th June
Batch 2
BitcoinByte	1338x	2 December	Bitpay	1	UK
s2	133xx	3 December	Bitpay	1	UK	Refunded
cz_miner	136xx	2 December	Wire Transfer	8	Czech Republic
elchorizo	137xx	2 December	Wire Transfer	1	USA
unrealized	137xx	2 December	Bitpay	1	USA	9th July
trytest	1386x	3 December	Wire Transfer	1	South Korea
idrive240	138xx	3 December	Wire Transfer	1	Canada	8th July
ninjaboon	1390x	3 December	Wire Transfer	1	Malaysia
andjo327	140xx	2 December	Bitpay	4	Sweden
SolarWindMiningCompany	140xx	2 December	Bitpay	1	USA	16th July
Wintermute420	1414x	2 December	Wire Transfer	1	USA	7th July
whonesta	1416x	3 December	Bitpay	1	USA	Refunded
Phoenix1969	1417x	2 December	Bitpay	2	USA
Nordman	1428x	3 December	Bitpay	1	Russia	Refunded
bib0077	1437x	3 December	Bitpay	1	Russia
KnCMiningOp	1459x	4 December	Bitpay	1	USA	7th July
gh0st	145xx	5 December	Wire Transfer	1	Denmark
ericdc30	145xx	3 December	Wire Transfer	1	Canada
elmagsound	146xx	4 December	Wire Transfer	2	USA
Clayce	1479x	4 December	Wire Transfer	1	USA
bjornsni	148xx	5 December	Wire Transfer	2	USA
Prelude	148xx	5 December	Bitpay	1	Canada	Refunded
Icare	149xx	5 December	Bitpay	1	France	Refunded
cryptomatt	150xx	6 December	Bitpay	1	USA	Refunded
zqcolor	1513x	9 December	Wire Transfer	1	USA
SandyO	1514x	11 December	Wire Transfer	1	USA
idrive240	151xx	6 December	Wire Transfer	1	Canada
user27	151xx	6 December	Wire Transfer	1	UK	11th July
abwillingham	152xx	9 December	Wire Transfer	1	USA
cz_miner	153xx	9 December	Wire Transfer	7	Czech Republic
sgbett	154xx	12 December	Bitpay	1	UK	Refunded
painge	167xx	12 December	Bitpay	1	USA
BitcoinByte	1689x	14 December	Bitpay	1	UK
Batch 3
pedrosoft	170xx	24 December	Bitpay	1	Italy	Refunded
smoothrunnings	172xx	28 December	Bitpay	1	Canada	25th August
KnCMiningOp	1735x	30 December	Bitpay	1	USA
mgz	181xx	12 January	Wire Transfer	2	Poland
nezarkadhem	181xx	16 January	Wire Transfer	1	Bahrain
cz_miner	183xx	15 January	Wire Transfer	10	Czech Republic
AFox	184xx	18 January	Bitpay	1	France
tonytrumpet1	1850x	18 January	Wire Transfer	1	UK
Danny5150	185xx	17 January	Wire Transfer	1	Jersey

[Tigggger]

Order #11xxx New

not yer paid but i will be paying later today..happy to see philippines order now.

Post when paid and will add to list

nederlands 1

order #, payment date, payment method ?

best would be to split the list into batch #1 and #2 now. because batch #2 will be shipped 3-4 weeks later.

Done

[Tigggger]

Why would someone that paid via bitcoin get their unit faster than someone paying by wire?

KNC's leave the factory in the order the payment is received.

Payment by bitpay is virtually instant, wire transfer can take 2-3 days.

All depends on how many they ship per day (which is the purpose of this list) as to how much it affects it.

[abwillingham]

Has anyone calculated the total number of neptune units manufactured and what impact those units will have on difficulty?

[Cablez]

There will be 2 batches of 1200 units so 2400 total Neptunes for Q1/Q2.  At a minimum of 3TH/s it will be a total of 7.2PH/s when they are all delivered.  Most likely it will be more than that.  

EDIT: One thing that is curious is the sheer number of order numbers.  There appears to be 6000+ orders for only 2400 units and several people have multiple units per order.  Would there be that many cancelled ones?

[smracer]

There will be 2 batches of 1200 units so 2400 total Neptunes for Q1/Q2.  At a minimum of 3TH/s it will be a total of 7.2PH/s when they are all delivered.  Most likely it will be more than that.  

EDIT: One thing that is curious is the sheer number of order numbers.  There appears to be 6000+ orders for only 2400 units and several people have multiple units per order.  Would there be that many cancelled ones?

Each time units were added to cart order number increased.  I had multiple cart order numbers per day from checking stock that i never checked out.

[abwillingham]

I asked kncminer how many total neptune units they would be manufacturing. 
They dodged the question several times, telling me they would make "1200 units for the general batch".

I think I rephrased the question 3 or 4 times before they fianlly said "we don't know how many units will be manufactured".   You know they have an army of these things in their own private stash that will have been in full production for months before anyone else gets one.

[r1senfa17h]

You know they have an army of these things in their own private stash that will have been in full production for months before anyone else gets one.

Lol, they wish. They are completely dependent on their suppliers and the 20nm ASIC isn't going to be completed until March at the absolute earliest. Besides, their policy is to mine with no more than 5% of what they sell. I bet when they refer to themselves as mining, they're actually referring to their own employees who have also bought miners at a discount. I wouldn't be surprised if they are FAR below the 5% they've stated as a limit. Simply put, they make way way way more money just selling them than mining with them.

[abwillingham]

Simply put, they make way way way more money just selling them than mining with them.

How do you figure that?  At current difficulty the Neptune pays for itself in a matter of days?

That may be the case in 6 months but not now. 

[r1senfa17h]

Simply put, they make way way way more money just selling them than mining with them.

How do you figure that?  At current difficulty the Neptune pays for itself in a matter of days?

That may be the case in 6 months but not now. 

Because there are no Neptunes to mine with yet, silly! They physically cannot exist yet as they just started designing them. The most important part (the chip) hasn't even been taped out yet with TSMC, which means KnC won't have a functional device for at least 3 months. We all watched as they shipped their Jupiters less than 2 weeks after getting the chips themselves - which was amazing in comparison to others (BFL, HashFast, etc...)

[abwillingham]

Did kncminer just drop the price by $3k a week after I paid $13k?

[r1senfa17h]

Did kncminer just drop the price by $3k a week after I paid $13k?

Yes, for the batch coming out 1 month after yours. If you make more than $3000 in the first month you have yours, then you will have the better deal.

[abwillingham]

Did kncminer just drop the price by $3k a week after I paid $13k?

Yes, for the batch coming out 1 month after yours. If you make more than $3000 in the first month you have yours, then you will have the better deal.

I was already in the second batch.

[ASIC-K]

Did kncminer just drop the price by $3k a week after I paid $13k?

Yes, for the batch coming out 1 month after yours. If you make more than $3000 in the first month you have yours, then you will have the better deal.

I was already in the second batch.

what are you asking? are you complaining that you paid 3k more because its a month earlier?

[r1senfa17h]

Did kncminer just drop the price by $3k a week after I paid $13k?

Yes, for the batch coming out 1 month after yours. If you make more than $3000 in the first month you have yours, then you will have the better deal.

I was already in the second batch.

You sound confused about the batch numbering system KnC has decided to use. The current $10k batch is technically the third batch.

[nightengale]

Is there any definitive timeline on batch releases? The way I'm perceiving based on the info on the website is that Neptune 1.0 was open to previous customers at $10k, then 2 weeks later Neptune 1.5 will ship ($13k), and then two weeks later, Neptune batch 2.0 (back to $10k) will ship?

This all seems a bit screwy.

[ASIC-K]

Is there any definitive timeline on batch releases? The way I'm perceiving based on the info on the website is that Neptune 1.0 was open to previous customers at $10k, then 2 weeks later Neptune 1.5 will ship ($13k), and then two weeks later, Neptune batch 2.0 (back to $10k) will ship?

This all seems a bit screwy.

you need to understand how difficulty changes every (roughly) two weeks.....if you dont get that, then you wont understand.

[r1senfa17h]

I have been issued a refund on one of my Neptunes. Please reduce the count for my 1110x order from 2 to 1. Thank you.

r1senfal17h   1110x   26 November   Wire Transfer   2 1   USA   

[Tigggger]

I have been issued a refund on one of my Neptunes. Please reduce the count for my 1110x order from 2 to 1. Thank you.

Updated, thanks.

[smoothrunnings]

Order number: 172XX
Date of payment: 2013-12-28
Method of Payment: Bitpay
Number of machines ordered: 1
Country: Canada