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November 27, 2013, 04:23:51 PM
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So, I'm a newbie to this site. I don't mean a complete noob, I have read around the forum for about 2 weeks. My main question is how does someone get "trust"? An example of what I mean by trust is: If I go into Marketplace ---> Services and post that I'm Escrowing, no one will use it because I have no trust, I understand how to system works with users "up voting" my trust, but how does someone start out to get a base of trust? Thanks for all the help guys, I really like this forum and plan on being an active member!

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November 27, 2013, 04:57:28 PM
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So, I'm a newbie to this site. I don't mean a complete noob, I have read around the forum for about 2 weeks. My main question is how does someone get "trust"? An example of what I mean by trust is: If I go into Marketplace ---> Services and post that I'm Escrowing, no one will use it because I have no trust, I understand how to system works with users "up voting" my trust, but how does someone start out to get a base of trust? Thanks for all the help guys, I really like this forum and plan on being an active member!

You trade with people, people start trusting (or not) you. After a very long time, showing that you know about bitcoin and contribute to it in some way, you can think about starting a escrow service. Actually, there are rare situations where a escrow service is in fact needed, given proper use of what bitcoin already allows.
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November 27, 2013, 05:03:13 PM
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Uh, get people to trust you, they go to your trust profile and post comments like 'Done trade with him, sent goods on time'.

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November 27, 2013, 05:07:26 PM
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This site is run by scammers and they promote selling accounts.  You cannot trust anything here and don't trust any of the ads, you have to look into everything yourself.

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November 27, 2013, 05:13:44 PM
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This site is run by scammers and they promote selling accounts.  You cannot trust anything here and don't trust any of the ads, you have to look into everything yourself.

By that logic I cannot trust you, so I cannot trust that this site is run by scammers or that they promote selling accounts.

Selling accounts is something that you just have to accept, it happens and will continue happening. Promote != not stopping the impossible.

The rest I agree with you (but since you can't trust anything, you might not trust that I agree with you).
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November 27, 2013, 06:15:41 PM
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you have to look into everything yourself.
OH MY GOD!
That's IMMORAL! Someone HAS to protect me!

By the way it's just like for my money, it's not my role to assure my own security.
Better use one of those online wallets. I heard "inputs.io" is kinda good.

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November 27, 2013, 07:29:54 PM
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you have to look into everything yourself.
OH MY GOD!
That's IMMORAL! Someone HAS to protect me!


That is part of the mission of the Bitcoin Foundation:

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/

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Bitcoin Foundation standardizes, protects and promotes the use of Bitcoin cryptographic money for the benefit of users worldwide.

So it is failing pretty bad ? I have no reason to believe that the Bitcoin Foundation should be enforcing rules in this forum...
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November 27, 2013, 08:07:13 PM
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you have to look into everything yourself.
OH MY GOD!
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That is part of the mission of the Bitcoin Foundation:

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/

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Bitcoin Foundation standardizes, protects and promotes the use of Bitcoin cryptographic money for the benefit of users worldwide.

So bitcointalk.org = Bitcoin Foundation now?  Well shit, that's news to me!
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November 27, 2013, 08:46:06 PM
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So, I'm a newbie to this site. I don't mean a complete noob, I have read around the forum for about 2 weeks. My main question is how does someone get "trust"? An example of what I mean by trust is: If I go into Marketplace ---> Services and post that I'm Escrowing, no one will use it because I have no trust, I understand how to system works with users "up voting" my trust, but how does someone start out to get a base of trust? Thanks for all the help guys, I really like this forum and plan on being an active member!

You have to trade and send first.  Just make sure you trust the person you're trading with, though!  Smiley

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November 27, 2013, 08:56:50 PM
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The Bitcoin Foundation not being on the biggest Bitcoin forum would be kinda odd no?
It doesn't mean they are associated

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November 28, 2013, 05:23:46 AM
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Actually I got a little sad now, did an admin lock this obvious scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348240.0 ? What makes me sad is that completely obvious threads where accounts are negotiated do not get closed. I wouldn't care if both were not closed, but since one of them are, I see no reason to not close the other category of scam.
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November 28, 2013, 05:30:11 AM
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Most other sites have a policy against selling accounts.  While they cannot always control it they also do not promote it.  The people who run this site promote the sale of accounts directly in threads.  They claim it is a way of warning new users that accounts are sold.  They can warn their members without promoting it.  Unlike this site, most other web sites are run by adults who take responsibility for their actions.

Most sites have to deal with a handful of people who are tech savy enough to evade modern banning, alt account creating, and account selling techniques. This isn't a Hello Kitty forum, the users here know how to get around anything we could throw at them, so by allowing account sales, people aren't disallusioned into thinking it couldn't happen. Sure we could probably stop 25% of account sales and multi accounts and such, but then those people that care enough to do it right would be able to cause a ton of damage.

Anyone who follows things closely knows they are sufficiently associated and could be drawn into any prosecution or civil suit.  Further, their stated mission is to help protect Bitcoin users from the kinds of things that go on here.  Now only should they disassociate themselves from this site, they should be warning users about it.  Specifically, they should have warned users about inputs.io as people like DannyHamilton were already sending plenty of warnings.  If DannyHamilton knew enough to give all those warnings the Foundation knew or should have known.  

The Bitcoin Foundation could have been sued for representing Bitcoin which was used to buy drugs on the Silk Road. Honestly, I think the whole Bitcoin Foundation idea is stupid, and I've got personal bets with a few people as to when they get sued.

On topic, you gain trust be being a long time member in good standing. Always use escrow, and always assume that someone is trying to steal your money.
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November 30, 2013, 12:37:30 AM
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Most people will only leave negative trust. I only once got 1 positive trust and that was only after I repeatedly asked the guy I was trading with to leave it. Also trolls can leave unfounded negative trust and the mods won't remove it.
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