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December 03, 2013, 01:13:44 AM
Last edit: December 11, 2013, 12:37:17 AM by 2GOOD
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The first ever board form Tehcnobit was HEX16A - 16 Avalon chips making 7-8GH/s, prety good miner with a great price tag. The HEX16A's successor is here, the new board is codenamed HEX16A2 and is populated with 16 Avalon Gen2 55nm chips. The design of the board is open source and compete for Avalon's design contest.



The miner looks identical with the other boards from the HEX line, no surprise here. That concept proved to have several advantages like stacking, decent cooling, great power module and 16 chips board is great for the customer as a price point, especially for newcomers that don't have or willing to risk a lot of money for mining equipment.



Performance:
At the Technobit's site, HEX16A2 is advertised as 24GH miner, let's see how it handles varius settings.



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Here is a chart with the performance of HEX16A2, keep in mind that the consumption may not be very accurate:
  • 1000/0900mV ~24W - 15.86GH/s - 1.51W/GH (less than 1% HW)
  • 1300/1020mV ~56W - 20.30GH/s - 2.76W/GH (less than 2% HW)
  • 1400/1060mV ~74W - 21.28GH/s - 3.47W/GH (less than 2% HW)
  • 1500/1120mV ~92W - 22.85GH/s - 4.03W/GH (less than 2% HW)
  • 1600/1160mV ~108W - 24.15GH/s - 4.47W/GH (less than 3% HW) - hot
As you can see the efficiency drops dramatically when overclocked. The power connector of the boards is a standard molex which is rated to deliver upto 132W at 12V, HEX16A had similar power consumption and that was not an issue. However I recommend you to stay bellow 1500Mhz, the hashrate gain just ain't worth it.

Cooling:
HEX16A2 is equipped with the same cooling solution as it's predecessor. At higher clocks it runs pretty hot, but nothing to worry about. If you need quiet miner you will have to lower the clocks and switch the fan's connector from 12 to 5V. At 1000mhz the massive heatsink is more than enough to cool down the board even at low fan speeds.

Pricing:
HEX16A2 is selling for 299,30€ chips included, which is a good offer for a starter. Compared to the bitfury based HEX16B, they have identical price per GH ratio, but the Fury is more efficient. With the bitcoin price of over $1000 both miners are bargain.

Here is the updated comparison of the recent products from Technobit along with new 20nm product from KnC:




Software:
Technobit's HEX line still lags proper mining software for Windows. You can only mine with their special HEXMiner, which has some improvements in the latest version 1.0.0.3 such as the automatic connection restart - that compensate the memory leak. But still if you connect more boards to the PC you need a lot of CPU power to handle board's work requests. For whatever reason you choose to mine on windows host, you'll need the driver for the board and HEXMiner. The setup is similar to HEX16A so you can check nemercry's video tutorial for Windows.

As with the previous HEX board I highly recommend that you get one cheap TP-Link TL-MR3020 and flash it with the firmware from Technobit's website. You can also order it directly from them at slightly higher price, but pre-flashed and ready to rock. Of course if you have a linux host it will best to just compile cgminer with the latest patch from Technobit or download my build for Ubuntu x64.



Pros:
  • Price tag
  • Availability
  • Software voltage control
  • Cooling
  • Stackable

Cons:
  • no cgminer/bfgminer for Windows
  • no CAN-Bus

Conclusion:
Yet another great product from Tehnobit, even that I would recommend the BitFury based HEX16B. To be honest I'm not very pleased with the new Avalon chips. The efficiency is far from great but still better than BFL 65nm. Don't get me wrong, the Bulgaria based company once again did a great job with this challenge. Hopefully in the near future they will solve the issues with mining software under windows.

Full gallery can be found here: http://imgbox.com/g/e2s0BXsxrf

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December 03, 2013, 01:28:18 AM
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Excellent review and pictures Smiley
Any ideas on how you can link them together so uses one usb controller? What PSU would be the best ?

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December 03, 2013, 01:43:21 AM
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Excellent review and pictures Smiley
Any ideas on how you can link them together so uses one usb controller? What PSU would be the best ?

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Glad you liked it Smiley

There is no can-bus support in this revision of the board, so you'll need powered USB hub for more boards.

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December 03, 2013, 01:47:52 AM
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Excellent review and pictures Smiley
Any ideas on how you can link them together so uses one usb controller? What PSU would be the best ?

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Glad you liked it Smiley

There is no can-bus support in this revision of the board, so you'll need powered USB hub for more boards.

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Do not need to be powered anymore.
Only Avalon gen1 based HEX16A requires powered hub.
With HEX16B and A2 you can used passive hub and to power even tp-link router from the boards and hub .
10x to our board designer for the efforts in this direction

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December 03, 2013, 02:05:28 AM
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My 5850...took a beating for 2 and a half years, having been overclocked and overvolted in the past, mining 24/7 for weeks(in the overclocked state), reaching 90C sometimes, VRMs going over 120C without me noticing, and never once did I get a hardware error. And I still haven't.

So how come this device has any hardware errors at all?

With that said, me being from OP's and marto74's country, if I order this device, when exactly will I get it delivered? Will I have to pay duty or VAT? Delivered to my doorstep? I assume it's fully assembled and everything, I won't have to do any soldering? Apart from a PSU, it works out of the box?

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December 03, 2013, 02:14:44 AM
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I asked marto74 a couple of questions via pm, he answered one but ignored the shipping date question. I asked again and have gotten no response.
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December 03, 2013, 02:25:10 AM
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This looks very good! Sadly I don't have money to buy but kudos for the OP, it is the most ordered and informative review I have seen so far.
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December 03, 2013, 08:35:06 AM
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Excellent review and pictures Smiley
Any ideas on how you can link them together so uses one usb controller? What PSU would be the best ?

Thanks

Glad you liked it Smiley

There is no can-bus support in this revision of the board, so you'll need powered USB hub for more boards.

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Do not need to be powered anymore.
Only Avalon gen1 based HEX16A requires powered hub.
With HEX16B and A2 you can used passive hub and to power even tp-link router from the boards and hub .
10x to our board designer for the efforts in this direction

Awesome. Just picked up 5 of them. Hope they ship soon.  Grin

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December 03, 2013, 08:40:04 AM
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Great review, very informative indeed.

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"As with the previous HEX board I highly recommend that you get one cheap TP-Link TL-MR3020 and flash it with the firmware from Technobit's website."

What is the need for this? Can I not just plug this miner to my pc psu and usb download the driver and the miner and ready to rock?

I bought a couple of these boards and really afraid it will be hard to get them working now. Obviously research is key but info about this product is next to none on the web, so once again I thank you!
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December 03, 2013, 10:44:25 AM
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Great review, very informative indeed.

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"As with the previous HEX board I highly recommend that you get one cheap TP-Link TL-MR3020 and flash it with the firmware from Technobit's website."

What is the need for this? Can I not just plug this miner to my pc psu and usb download the driver and the miner and ready to rock?

I bought a couple of these boards and really afraid it will be hard to get them working now. Obviously research is key but info about this product is next to none on the web, so once again I thank you!

Yes, you can just plug it into your windows host, install the driver and start mining. I recommend the router or any linux host as a better, flawless solution. You can give it a try with HEXMiner in windows and if there are some problems buy the router from you local retailer and flash it.

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December 03, 2013, 11:06:42 AM
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Sweet ;-)

Thanks for your info.

I will let you know how i get on once I get the miner in hand.

All the best.
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December 03, 2013, 11:49:12 AM
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how many W should have the power supply for 7x boards?
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December 03, 2013, 12:26:03 PM
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"this product is no longer in stock"...
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December 03, 2013, 12:31:09 PM
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Nice review! Thanks for share!
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December 03, 2013, 02:05:15 PM
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I know that too thanks
I have already ordered 7 pieces
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December 03, 2013, 02:57:36 PM
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sold out that sucks
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December 03, 2013, 06:52:23 PM
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Sir Martin Sirakov,

Where is my Order please!? do you send it or not? Order paid   2013-11-13    Number :  VMMPYXWQN

Since I paid  i have no reply from you   WHY!!!!?HuhHuh
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December 03, 2013, 07:20:21 PM
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how many W should have the power supply for 7x boards?
750 W at least if I read the power figures right. Pay attention to 12v rail it should be at least 60 Amps. That power will let you run the boards overclocked
If I were you I shall go with 850 wats 70 amps 12v with tplink all powered from PSU only sharing common ground

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December 04, 2013, 12:33:37 AM
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Just a quick PSA, but if you're waiting for delivery, check your order history on the Technobit website, look at the bottom of the order details page and check if you've got any messages there. I've been waiting for an update on my mine, and just noticed that a note was added to ask me to clarify my delivery address a week ago. It's my fault for not checking this page regularly enough, but I didn't receive any email notification saying there was a query with my order or hint that a message has been posted to the site about it so I had no clue until I was just scouring the site for more details on my order progress. I've received all the regular 'newsletter' email updates, so I don't think it's a spam filter problem, more likely just a case of no notification emails generated when a query is raised on an order. Not casting any blame, just want to alert others to check their pages and avoid any delays like I've just had.
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December 04, 2013, 01:11:50 AM
Last edit: December 04, 2013, 02:27:13 AM by awgilyas
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sold out that sucks


It's back in stock it seems.

EDIT:

Also what is the size of the fan?  92mm or 120mm?

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