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January 10, 2014, 10:24:15 AM
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Seeing as Phonetic started to respond in this thread again, I will remove my bounty for the identification until I see what happens, instead the 5k can be put towards the bounty for getting my doges back.
I don't want to be part of unmasking phonetics identity since some posters here seems to be slightly unbalanced.

It will also be very interesting to see how things go from here. Phonetic has at least shown up again, which to me is a good sign, now the question becomes if he will do what he can to pay out the doges due or simply buy more time to disappear.

I am giving him the benefit of the doubt as I guess he is in the same boat as many of us. That means he is new to the scene, and just wanted to make a quick buck not quite knowing how the mining system works.
He says he got in over his head after the pool passed 500MH/s, at which point I am guessing he had to learn a lot about server administration faster than he had ever anticipated, not to mention how the scripts running the sites works. Now you can argue that many other sites are running the same, or similar, scripts and that they are readily available, but that doesn't mean they are bug free and don't have back doors.

From my personal experience with the quality of plugins to Jenkins CI, a continuous integration server used for testing software, there are a lot of bugs and shitty code in an enviroment where you would expect things to be tested and verified. Comparing that with the wild west of crypto currency mining, where everyone is out for a quick buck and not always in an honest way, I see absolutely no reason for the software&plugins to have have few bugs and scale well with no back doors! (Even this forums software has bugs in the timing of postings, warning of posting duplicates etc)

My suggestion to Phonetic to try and clear things up here would be to open a github account and post all the configuration files, along with what versions of which software was used, letting the people saying they are IT professionals go over them and verify the problems. That would be a token of good faith, and a way for others to get involved instead of being kept in the dark.

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January 10, 2014, 12:33:23 PM
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hitandrun, it is done. I suspect that the bounty will continue to grow until we see some results.

Bounty for the retrieval of the stolen Doge(payable after it has been retrieved):
Cryptoin: 4000k
sakusenob: 50k
namecointrader: 143k
koppit: 20k
Wekkel: 1k
Epistemic: 2k
granathus: 10k
ofeefee: 100k
Evilish: 24k
Owndapwn: 100k
RickJamesBTC: 20k
Necron99: 350k
clshades: 55k
prdatur: 25k
bearsworth: 100k
nesco1805: 20k
looni: 10k
Luuzer: 100k
Gelbstich: 80k
smapdi: 100k
BaneBear: 20799
oyvinds: 3k
x3maniac: 100k
hitandrun: 10k

Total : 5443.799k

Bounty for the identity of Phonetic(immediately payable):

Cryptoin: 1000k
Owndapwn:100k
namecointrader:140k
smapdi: 50k
looni: 5k
BaneBear: 20k
oyvinds: 3k
hitandrun: 10k

Total: 1328k

Grand Total: 6.781799 million Doge


Other Coins:
tins: 1000 Earthcoin

You can add me Wink

499k

thanks

You can also add me ...

user name on the pool : JRDALLAS 23
pending balance  : 55 K

What are th action way, we have to get its back ? And I would add for the pool owner, when you don't know how to rule something, you don't do it !!!

If you want to contact me for reflecting about a solution to get back our DOGE, do not hesitate. (together should be better than alone)

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January 10, 2014, 01:44:30 PM
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Seeing as Phonetic started to respond in this thread again, I will remove my bounty for the identification until I see what happens, instead the 5k can be put towards the bounty for getting my doges back.
I don't want to be part of unmasking phonetics identity since some posters here seems to be slightly unbalanced.

It will also be very interesting to see how things go from here. Phonetic has at least shown up again, which to me is a good sign, now the question becomes if he will do what he can to pay out the doges due or simply buy more time to disappear.

I am giving him the benefit of the doubt as I guess he is in the same boat as many of us. That means he is new to the scene, and just wanted to make a quick buck not quite knowing how the mining system works.
He says he got in over his head after the pool passed 500MH/s, at which point I am guessing he had to learn a lot about server administration faster than he had ever anticipated, not to mention how the scripts running the sites works. Now you can argue that many other sites are running the same, or similar, scripts and that they are readily available, but that doesn't mean they are bug free and don't have back doors.

From my personal experience with the quality of plugins to Jenkins CI, a continuous integration server used for testing software, there are a lot of bugs and shitty code in an enviroment where you would expect things to be tested and verified. Comparing that with the wild west of crypto currency mining, where everyone is out for a quick buck and not always in an honest way, I see absolutely no reason for the software&plugins to have have few bugs and scale well with no back doors! (Even this forums software has bugs in the timing of postings, warning of posting duplicates etc)

My suggestion to Phonetic to try and clear things up here would be to open a github account and post all the configuration files, along with what versions of which software was used, letting the people saying they are IT professionals go over them and verify the problems. That would be a token of good faith, and a way for others to get involved instead of being kept in the dark.




Clear things up?

He reported double payment issues around 25th..

He had a 2.5GHash mining pool in 2 weeks after that...
Generating alot of coins after the fuckup.
Where are these coins? and why cant he pay back what he have?

This case still stinks if you ask me..

And i think the Bounty was the only reason for Phonetic to buy more time to get away with it all. "Im back. Please put away bounties!"
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January 10, 2014, 01:59:32 PM
Last edit: January 11, 2014, 12:39:36 AM by namecointrader
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The bounty is still growing.

Bounty for the retrieval of the stolen Doge(payable after it has been retrieved):
Cryptoin: 4000k
sakusenob: 50k
namecointrader: 143k
koppit: 20k
Wekkel: 1k
Epistemic: 2k
granathus: 10k
ofeefee: 100k
Evilish: 24k
Owndapwn: 100k
RickJamesBTC: 20k
Necron99: 350k
clshades: 55k
prdatur: 25k
bearsworth: 100k
nesco1805: 20k
Luuzer: 100k
Gelbstich: 80k
smapdi: 100k
BaneBear: 20799
oyvinds: 3k
x3maniac: 100k
hitandrun: 10k
themrlonewolf: 499k
spodo: 10k
JRDALLAS23: 55k
looni: 15k
hoeczek: 2.5k
BlaCKBloOD: 10k

Total : 6025.299k

Bounty for the identity of Phonetic(immediately payable):

Cryptoin: 1000k
Owndapwn:100k
namecointrader:140k
smapdi: 50k
BaneBear: 20k
oyvinds: 3k
hitandrun: 10k
looni: 5k

Total: 1323k

Grand Total: 7.348299 million Doge


Other Coins:
tins: 1000 Earthcoin
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January 10, 2014, 02:39:13 PM
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Seeing as Phonetic started to respond in this thread again, I will remove my bounty for the identification until I see what happens, instead the 5k can be put towards the bounty for getting my doges back.
I don't want to be part of unmasking phonetics identity since some posters here seems to be slightly unbalanced.

It will also be very interesting to see how things go from here. Phonetic has at least shown up again, which to me is a good sign, now the question becomes if he will do what he can to pay out the doges due or simply buy more time to disappear.

I am giving him the benefit of the doubt as I guess he is in the same boat as many of us. That means he is new to the scene, and just wanted to make a quick buck not quite knowing how the mining system works.
He says he got in over his head after the pool passed 500MH/s, at which point I am guessing he had to learn a lot about server administration faster than he had ever anticipated, not to mention how the scripts running the sites works. Now you can argue that many other sites are running the same, or similar, scripts and that they are readily available, but that doesn't mean they are bug free and don't have back doors.

From my personal experience with the quality of plugins to Jenkins CI, a continuous integration server used for testing software, there are a lot of bugs and shitty code in an enviroment where you would expect things to be tested and verified. Comparing that with the wild west of crypto currency mining, where everyone is out for a quick buck and not always in an honest way, I see absolutely no reason for the software&plugins to have have few bugs and scale well with no back doors! (Even this forums software has bugs in the timing of postings, warning of posting duplicates etc)

My suggestion to Phonetic to try and clear things up here would be to open a github account and post all the configuration files, along with what versions of which software was used, letting the people saying they are IT professionals go over them and verify the problems. That would be a token of good faith, and a way for others to get involved instead of being kept in the dark.




Clear things up?

He reported double payment issues around 25th..

He had a 2.5GHash mining pool in 2 weeks after that...
Generating alot of coins after the fuckup.
Where are these coins? and why cant he pay back what he have?

This case still stinks if you ask me..

And i think the Bounty was the only reason for Phonetic to buy more time to get away with it all. "Im back. Please put away bounties!"

I agree it stinks, I just prefer to give Phonetic the benefit of the doubt since he now apparently is posting again.
That is also the reason I suggested he post the configuration files to github, or similar service, so he can show how the double payment trouble came about and what he did to try and fix it.

namecointrader, I didn't mean to drop my bounty for retrieval, only for identification. So please set my total contribution to the retrieval bounty to 15k doges.
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January 10, 2014, 02:44:24 PM
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We have here three sides:

A) Phonetic - poor guy with double-payment bug in system
-What did you do to get back the money till now?

B) Miners - with double-payment christmass present
- Do they know they got double pament?
- Did they receive request to send back money?
- Or did they receive MINUS balance in their mining account?

C) Miners - no payments
- The bounty 5 997 799 doge, is this for Phonetic too?
Kind of discount and help to get things right?
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January 10, 2014, 02:49:09 PM
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C) Miners - no payments
- The bounty 5 997 799 doge, is this for Phonetic too?
Kind of discount and help to get things right?

For my part he can happily discount the 15k doges as long as I get my remaining 37k doges, yes.
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January 10, 2014, 02:55:30 PM
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i was half hoping Phonetic was being silent just to be a dick. since the start there have been scores of people calling him and his pool a scammer for no reason. these tools need to learn that shit goes wrong life happens, and not everything is a scam. and this thread isnt the only one. as soon as something happens that's out of the ordinary, a bunch of idiots will yell scam, even if they have no proof, and 99.9% of the time they dont. even when there are posts clearly stating that things will get fixed and whatnot, these idiots still post scam scam scam. just shut the hell up, read the thread, something you probably were too stupid to do, and get some proof before yelling scam. that word is forever ruined for me because of these idiots.
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January 10, 2014, 03:49:08 PM
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i was half hoping Phonetic was being silent just to be a dick. since the start there have been scores of people calling him and his pool a scammer for no reason. these tools need to learn that shit goes wrong life happens, and not everything is a scam. and this thread isnt the only one. as soon as something happens that's out of the ordinary, a bunch of idiots will yell scam, even if they have no proof, and 99.9% of the time they dont. even when there are posts clearly stating that things will get fixed and whatnot, these idiots still post scam scam scam. just shut the hell up, read the thread, something you probably were too stupid to do, and get some proof before yelling scam. that word is forever ruined for me because of these idiots.

As far as I've seen, the majority of people gave him ample time to respond before calling scam. I don't disagree some might have been quick though.

In any case, the little explanation Phonetic gave so far seems way inadequate. He made the decision to come out of "hiding" but to not provide any real explanations to the outstanding questions - I don't get it. Makes me think the people who are saying that he's buying time or trying to call off the dogs are right.

Phonetic, if you're following this thread, you've seen that people seem to be willing to forgive and forget but, at least as far as I'm concerned, you haven't provided anywhere near enough explanation.
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January 10, 2014, 04:03:55 PM
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hi,  my nickname in poo, is kevinyan.

I will pay 20k for the bounty..

I have 90k of the dogecoin stuck in this pool...
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January 10, 2014, 04:13:26 PM
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I know that its really small ammount but please add me to the bounty list
hoek - 2500
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January 10, 2014, 04:16:34 PM
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kevinan and hoeczek, retrieval or identification bounty?
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January 10, 2014, 04:24:51 PM
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kevinan and hoeczek, retrieval or identification bounty?


retrieval
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January 10, 2014, 05:24:22 PM
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i was half hoping Phonetic was being silent just to be a dick. since the start there have been scores of people calling him and his pool a scammer for no reason. these tools need to learn that shit goes wrong life happens, and not everything is a scam. and this thread isnt the only one. as soon as something happens that's out of the ordinary, a bunch of idiots will yell scam, even if they have no proof, and 99.9% of the time they dont. even when there are posts clearly stating that things will get fixed and whatnot, these idiots still post scam scam scam. just shut the hell up, read the thread, something you probably were too stupid to do, and get some proof before yelling scam. that word is forever ruined for me because of these idiots.

But you are totally missing the picture here..
He has double payment issues around 24th..

so.. if he cant pay anybody.. Why didnt he:
1. Take his pool offline.
2. Inform on troubles on the site to make people leave for other pools (if he is not lying with his last info that 500 MHash made shit hit the fan)

Failing both of these DOES lead to scamming suspicion.. So your "baseless scammer namecalling" is the baseless statement..


If you have a failed service and are (mis)-handling value of some kind of a customer, and you know you cant pay the customer. you shut it down, until fixed.. or at least informs so the customer can choose to either continue to mine with the risk of not earning anything.. or move to a different pool to actually get paid. And to relieve the pool of its activity to help on the issues..

And then the last and most revealing hint that this is a scam..

I have said it many times. but here it goes again.

This pool had over 2.5GHash per second a long time..
ALOT of coins have been mined after his double payment issues.. Where is these doge's if he have to "get new coins" to pay us back?

IF THESE ARE GONE. its because _he_ removed them.. easy as that.
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January 10, 2014, 05:53:11 PM
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This pool had over 2.5GHash per second a long time..
ALOT of coins have been mined after his double payment issues.. Where is these doge's if he have to "get new coins" to pay us back?

IF THESE ARE GONE. its because _he_ removed them.. easy as that.


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January 10, 2014, 06:36:50 PM
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i was half hoping Phonetic was being silent just to be a dick. since the start there have been scores of people calling him and his pool a scammer for no reason. these tools need to learn that shit goes wrong life happens, and not everything is a scam. and this thread isnt the only one. as soon as something happens that's out of the ordinary, a bunch of idiots will yell scam, even if they have no proof, and 99.9% of the time they dont. even when there are posts clearly stating that things will get fixed and whatnot, these idiots still post scam scam scam. just shut the hell up, read the thread, something you probably were too stupid to do, and get some proof before yelling scam. that word is forever ruined for me because of these idiots.

But you are totally missing the picture here..
He has double payment issues around 24th..

so.. if he cant pay anybody.. Why didnt he:
1. Take his pool offline.
2. Inform on troubles on the site to make people leave for other pools (if he is not lying with his last info that 500 MHash made shit hit the fan)

Failing both of these DOES lead to scamming suspicion.. So your "baseless scammer namecalling" is the baseless statement..


If you have a failed service and are (mis)-handling value of some kind of a customer, and you know you cant pay the customer. you shut it down, until fixed.. or at least informs so the customer can choose to either continue to mine with the risk of not earning anything.. or move to a different pool to actually get paid. And to relieve the pool of its activity to help on the issues..

And then the last and most revealing hint that this is a scam..

I have said it many times. but here it goes again.

This pool had over 2.5GHash per second a long time..
ALOT of coins have been mined after his double payment issues.. Where is these doge's if he have to "get new coins" to pay us back?

IF THESE ARE GONE. its because _he_ removed them.. easy as that.


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January 10, 2014, 07:18:37 PM
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He has double payment issues around 24th..

so.. if he cant pay anybody.. Why didnt he:
1. Take his pool offline.
2. Inform on troubles on the site to make people leave for other pools (if he is not lying with his last info that 500 MHash made shit hit the fan)

Failing both of these DOES lead to scamming suspicion.. So your "baseless scammer namecalling" is the baseless statement..


If you have a failed service and are (mis)-handling value of some kind of a customer, and you know you cant pay the customer. you shut it down, until fixed.. or at least informs so the customer can choose to either continue to mine with the risk of not earning anything.. or move to a different pool to actually get paid. And to relieve the pool of its activity to help on the issues..

And then the last and most revealing hint that this is a scam..

I have said it many times. but here it goes again.

This pool had over 2.5GHash per second a long time..
ALOT of coins have been mined after his double payment issues.. Where is these doge's if he have to "get new coins" to pay us back?

IF THESE ARE GONE. its because _he_ removed them.. easy as that.


I didn't join the pool until the 26th, but got two payments after that. One manual at 4.6k on the 26th and one auto (which was set to 10k) for 21.3k on the 28th.
So the pool was operating and paying out, at least to some extent, until at least 26th Dec 04:35 GMT when I got my last payment. Thus leading me to hope that he did actually pay out a lot of the doges mined after the double payment issue. But what made him, or at least the site, stop paying out after that?

Is there any way he could have f***ed things up with a different branch? (Asking, as I don't quite understand how that works)


As for taking down the pool, didn't he at one point say he had to buy doge for BTC to pay out after the double payment? If so I can see how he might have reasoned that the trouble was mostly over and he would use the income from the pool to pay out the difference between what had been mined and what the pool had available until it balanced out.


Lastly, are we sure that no miners from the pool got a payment after the 28th?
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January 10, 2014, 07:59:48 PM
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Seeing as Phonetic started to respond in this thread again

He posted one message that explained very little.  He should start by explaining why the doge mined after payouts stopped appears to have been immediately sold off.  He should also explain why he was still transferring doge out of the pool wallet several times a day during the two weeks he didn't even log in here.

If double payments are really what got him into trouble, he should be able to post dogechain.info links to prove that claim.  Anything short of full disclosure at this point leads me to believe that he is just trying to buy time to cover his tracks.
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January 10, 2014, 08:10:21 PM
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Almost everyone here believes me to be a scammer.

Please believe me when I tell you all that I am truly sorry for the dogecoins that are owed to you.

Another pool operator has been very kind to me over these past few days and is helping me get through this. You have no idea how badly I feel about this situation. It is draining the life out of me every second of every day.

My words may mean nothing to most of you, but this is the truth.

It is not possible for me to purchase the amount of dogecoins that are owed to many of the miners of my pool. When I first realized this, I abandoned my ship. It was foolish for me to do this and the fact that I did that will make it much harder for anyone to believe a word out of my mouth. I don't blame you but please, read my thread from the beginning, and I hope you can see from the start I gave my pool everything I had.

The person I am working with has encouraged the idea of reopening my pool and has agreed to run it with me to make sure there are no issues with double payouts. Any owed balances will be paid using any and all fees that my pool collects. If / when the owed balances are settled in full, the person who is helping me will take full control of the pool. You will no longer have to deal with me. I'm not cut out for this, and I realize that. This was my first pool and will be my last pool. This is a terrible situation for all of my miners and I'm sorry that I couldn't fix the problems with my pool.

It's not easy coming to this forum and reading the things people are saying. I'm not a bad person. I've done right my whole life. I will do everything I can to right this ship and make things right.

Scrypt Pools had many problems and many coins were lost due to multiple payout problems. I was in over my head the moment the pool went past 500 mh/s. I did my best to keep it running but I failed. I'm embarassed and truly sorry. I will find a way to get enough doges to process the rest of the payouts and reinstate my credibility.
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January 10, 2014, 08:18:36 PM
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Almost everyone here believes me to be a scammer.

Please believe me when I tell you all that I am truly sorry for the dogecoins that are owed to you.
/snip

I do appreciate the fact that you came back here, in spite of the angry mob.  Good job on that.

Also, I look forward to the correction of this situation.  Until then...!
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