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I must agree with this pattern, Windows 8 sucks as well Yep. Cant wait till windows 9. Hopefully they keep up this pattern!
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December 15, 2013, 09:38:41 PM |
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Would running on linux actually help with your hashrate? Like for Nvidia would it increase it a tiny bit?
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December 15, 2013, 09:39:57 PM |
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Would running on linux actually help with your hashrate? Like for Nvidia would it increase it a tiny bit?
I would guess so, since linux is a lighter OS and doesnt have crap running in the background.
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December 15, 2013, 09:45:09 PM |
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That's very interesting, it seems that linux seems to be the preferred OS for more developed computing uses.
An OS that uses linux is Ubuntu, and Ubuntu also seems to have the advantage of encrypting disk space to make things safer.
And honestly the whole intention behind the OS seems to be based off an intention of compassion and virtue and sharing,
just looking up the definition of the word ubuntu may show that.
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December 15, 2013, 09:51:03 PM |
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Would running on linux actually help with your hashrate? Like for Nvidia would it increase it a tiny bit?
I would guess so, since linux is a lighter OS and doesnt have crap running in the background. Do you have any evidence to support this claim though?
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December 15, 2013, 09:56:57 PM |
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I agree, linux has always been generally considered better for things involving a lot of computing power, it's just less user friendly so even though users would be better off using it they're not willing to make the switch from what they're used to.
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December 15, 2013, 10:44:16 PM |
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Would running on linux actually help with your hashrate? Like for Nvidia would it increase it a tiny bit?
I would guess so, since linux is a lighter OS and doesnt have crap running in the background. Do you have any evidence to support this claim though? Standard fresh install of XP Pro is ~2GB Fresh install of a xfce can be within 500 MB But if you need evidence then you obviously haven't used linux / unix that much to actually know. A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run. If you truly want to learn about linux, go back to the early days. I remember sitting at my desk having to recompile my kernel because I needed to add a driver for something, and a gui, you had to install that yourself. That's very interesting, it seems that linux seems to be the preferred OS for more developed computing uses.
An OS that uses linux is Ubuntu, and Ubuntu also seems to have the advantage of encrypting disk space to make things safer.
And honestly the whole intention behind the OS seems to be based off an intention of compassion and virtue and sharing,
just looking up the definition of the word ubuntu may show that.
Ubuntu is a flavor of Debian. All they did was take Debian and spice it up and make it look pretty. Now if you want to stick to roots and go with something nice, but not a flavor of another distro, go with Fedora Core. Fedora started as Red Hat, then Red Hat became the enterprise distro and Fedora Core became the public distro. That pattern has held true to the Windows 3 days, god I miss my Windows 3.1 machine, I must be getting old. Me personally, I love Red Hat / Fedora Core but people who are releasing programs are sticking to debian distros. Yes you can repackage the .deb's to .rpm's but sometimes it is easier to just go with the flow.
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December 15, 2013, 10:50:48 PM |
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A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run.
In fact I have XP instalation CD and it works fine even without running updates.
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December 15, 2013, 10:55:40 PM |
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Would running on linux actually help with your hashrate? Like for Nvidia would it increase it a tiny bit?
I would guess so, since linux is a lighter OS and doesnt have crap running in the background. Do you have any evidence to support this claim though? Standard fresh install of XP Pro is ~2GB Fresh install of a xfce can be within 500 MB But if you need evidence then you obviously haven't used linux / unix that much to actually know. A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run. If you truly want to learn about linux, go back to the early days. I remember sitting at my desk having to recompile my kernel because I needed to add a driver for something, and a gui, you had to install that yourself. That's very interesting, it seems that linux seems to be the preferred OS for more developed computing uses.
An OS that uses linux is Ubuntu, and Ubuntu also seems to have the advantage of encrypting disk space to make things safer.
And honestly the whole intention behind the OS seems to be based off an intention of compassion and virtue and sharing,
just looking up the definition of the word ubuntu may show that.
Ubuntu is a flavor of Debian. All they did was take Debian and spice it up and make it look pretty. Now if you want to stick to roots and go with something nice, but not a flavor of another distro, go with Fedora Core. Fedora started as Red Hat, then Red Hat became the enterprise distro and Fedora Core became the public distro. That pattern has held true to the Windows 3 days, god I miss my Windows 3.1 machine, I must be getting old. Me personally, I love Red Hat / Fedora Core but people who are releasing programs are sticking to debian distros. Yes you can repackage the .deb's to .rpm's but sometimes it is easier to just go with the flow. I have no hard proof, but my computer performs WAYYY faster on ubuntu than windows, and overheats less.
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December 15, 2013, 11:00:49 PM |
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A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run.
In fact I have XP instalation CD and it works fine even without running updates. That is an installation cd, can you put that disk in your computer and play on xp before you install it? My statement stands, please read it again if you didn't understand it fully, but I will help out. You cannot have a live cd of xp under 2GB, I am not talking about XP PE either, that isn't the full os.
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December 15, 2013, 11:03:50 PM |
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A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run.
In fact I have XP instalation CD and it works fine even without running updates. That is an installation cd, can you put that disk in your computer and play on xp before you install it? My statement stands, please read it again if you didn't understand it fully, but I will help out. You cannot have a live cd of xp under 2GB, I am not talking about XP PE either, that isn't the full os. Your righ, but how is the live cd of xbuntu secure without patches when you connect to the internet ?
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December 15, 2013, 11:05:15 PM |
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A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run.
In fact I have XP instalation CD and it works fine even without running updates. That is an installation cd, can you put that disk in your computer and play on xp before you install it? My statement stands, please read it again if you didn't understand it fully, but I will help out. You cannot have a live cd of xp under 2GB, I am not talking about XP PE either, that isn't the full os. I tried ubuntu before, and it was too complicated to get anything other than steam and the other normal apps to run on it for me. I like windows because its a middle of the road OS, half user friendly, half technical if you want to edit things.
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December 15, 2013, 11:15:53 PM |
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A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run.
In fact I have XP instalation CD and it works fine even without running updates. That is an installation cd, can you put that disk in your computer and play on xp before you install it? My statement stands, please read it again if you didn't understand it fully, but I will help out. You cannot have a live cd of xp under 2GB, I am not talking about XP PE either, that isn't the full os. Your righ, but how is the live cd of xbuntu secure without patches when you connect to the internet ? ubuntu is more secure on that live cd then your fresh install of xp any day. You want a secure out of the box solution, let me introduce you to: Lightweight Portable Security http://www.spi.dod.mil/lipose.htmI do this for a living, I build linux, apple, and microsoft servers. I had to build a secure network in Iraq with limited resources when we deployed. We couldn't connect to the satellite without the secure network so I went with linux to get us started then migrated to Windows server for compatibility.
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December 15, 2013, 11:52:06 PM |
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A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run.
In fact I have XP instalation CD and it works fine even without running updates. That is an installation cd, can you put that disk in your computer and play on xp before you install it? My statement stands, please read it again if you didn't understand it fully, but I will help out. You cannot have a live cd of xp under 2GB, I am not talking about XP PE either, that isn't the full os. I tried ubuntu before, and it was too complicated to get anything other than steam and the other normal apps to run on it for me. I like windows because its a middle of the road OS, half user friendly, half technical if you want to edit things. I felt exactly like you, but after a week I got everything running!
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December 15, 2013, 11:59:26 PM |
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A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run.
In fact I have XP instalation CD and it works fine even without running updates. That is an installation cd, can you put that disk in your computer and play on xp before you install it? My statement stands, please read it again if you didn't understand it fully, but I will help out. You cannot have a live cd of xp under 2GB, I am not talking about XP PE either, that isn't the full os. I tried ubuntu before, and it was too complicated to get anything other than steam and the other normal apps to run on it for me. I like windows because its a middle of the road OS, half user friendly, half technical if you want to edit things. I felt exactly like you, but after a week I got everything running! But what about the games ? Gamers still need Windows
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December 16, 2013, 12:41:46 AM |
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A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run.
In fact I have XP instalation CD and it works fine even without running updates. That is an installation cd, can you put that disk in your computer and play on xp before you install it? My statement stands, please read it again if you didn't understand it fully, but I will help out. You cannot have a live cd of xp under 2GB, I am not talking about XP PE either, that isn't the full os. I tried ubuntu before, and it was too complicated to get anything other than steam and the other normal apps to run on it for me. I like windows because its a middle of the road OS, half user friendly, half technical if you want to edit things. I felt exactly like you, but after a week I got everything running! But what about the games ? Gamers still need Windows I stopped playing video games (I have a xbox but dont use it). If you have a extremely powerful computer then you can use WINE to open windows app.
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A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run.
In fact I have XP instalation CD and it works fine even without running updates. That is an installation cd, can you put that disk in your computer and play on xp before you install it? My statement stands, please read it again if you didn't understand it fully, but I will help out. You cannot have a live cd of xp under 2GB, I am not talking about XP PE either, that isn't the full os. I tried ubuntu before, and it was too complicated to get anything other than steam and the other normal apps to run on it for me. I like windows because its a middle of the road OS, half user friendly, half technical if you want to edit things. I felt exactly like you, but after a week I got everything running! But what about the games ? Gamers still need Windows I stopped playing video games (I have a xbox but dont use it). If you have a extremely powerful computer then you can use WINE to open windows app. Good luck running iTunes
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December 16, 2013, 12:43:27 AM |
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A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run.
In fact I have XP instalation CD and it works fine even without running updates. That is an installation cd, can you put that disk in your computer and play on xp before you install it? My statement stands, please read it again if you didn't understand it fully, but I will help out. You cannot have a live cd of xp under 2GB, I am not talking about XP PE either, that isn't the full os. I tried ubuntu before, and it was too complicated to get anything other than steam and the other normal apps to run on it for me. I like windows because its a middle of the road OS, half user friendly, half technical if you want to edit things. I felt exactly like you, but after a week I got everything running! But what about the games ? Gamers still need Windows I stopped playing video games (I have a xbox but dont use it). If you have a extremely powerful computer then you can use WINE to open windows app. Good luck running iTunes Hah, iTunes. Thats funny. I have Spotify Premium.
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December 16, 2013, 12:43:59 AM |
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A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run.
In fact I have XP instalation CD and it works fine even without running updates. That is an installation cd, can you put that disk in your computer and play on xp before you install it? My statement stands, please read it again if you didn't understand it fully, but I will help out. You cannot have a live cd of xp under 2GB, I am not talking about XP PE either, that isn't the full os. I tried ubuntu before, and it was too complicated to get anything other than steam and the other normal apps to run on it for me. I like windows because its a middle of the road OS, half user friendly, half technical if you want to edit things. I felt exactly like you, but after a week I got everything running! But what about the games ? Gamers still need Windows I stopped playing video games (I have a xbox but dont use it). If you have a extremely powerful computer then you can use WINE to open windows app. Good luck running iTunes Die hard linux users won't touch itunes, they are android for life users.
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December 16, 2013, 12:45:15 AM |
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A live cd of xbuntu is 600 MB, that is the full os being able to run, yes packages are in a compressed environment, but you can't stick a full install of XP on a cd and expect it to run.
In fact I have XP instalation CD and it works fine even without running updates. That is an installation cd, can you put that disk in your computer and play on xp before you install it? My statement stands, please read it again if you didn't understand it fully, but I will help out. You cannot have a live cd of xp under 2GB, I am not talking about XP PE either, that isn't the full os. I tried ubuntu before, and it was too complicated to get anything other than steam and the other normal apps to run on it for me. I like windows because its a middle of the road OS, half user friendly, half technical if you want to edit things. I felt exactly like you, but after a week I got everything running! But what about the games ? Gamers still need Windows I stopped playing video games (I have a xbox but dont use it). If you have a extremely powerful computer then you can use WINE to open windows app. Good luck running iTunes Die hard linux users won't touch itunes, they are android for life users. I was using android, but recently got an iphone. I have a spare (old) mac that I never use.
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