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August 30, 2018, 08:29:52 AM |
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Huh? If they're not included in the main chain then they don't exist. There is only one chain - the longest chain - the "main chain".
That's not necessarily true. These transactions do still exist inside of orphaned blocks. They are not part of the main chain, but these blocks do exist. And they are indexed and searchable. Does anyone know how to see transactions that are good, that are not included in the main chain.
You can view the block info of orphaned blocks here: https://www.blockchain.com/en/btc/orphaned-blocksThe orphaned blocks are valid blocks which are not part of the main chain, but contain valid transactions.
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August 30, 2018, 08:37:18 AM |
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They are not part of the main chain, but these blocks do exist. And they are indexed and searchable.
Thanks for pointing that out. Learnt something new.
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August 30, 2018, 08:53:34 AM |
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These transactions do still exist inside of orphaned blocks. Blocks get orphaned all the time, and as far as I know the orphaned transactions aren't abandoned, they're just added to other blocks again. That makes it very unlikely to find a transaction that's not in the main chain this way.
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August 30, 2018, 09:45:17 AM |
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Blocks get orphaned all the time, and as far as I know the orphaned transactions aren't abandoned, they're just added to other blocks again.
This applies to 'normal' transactions. But maliciously sent transactions which aim to create a double spend do leave transactions inside orphaned blocks which aren't later added to the main chain. So while the majority of transactions has been added to the mainchain through other blocks, a few have not been added (which are still valid itself in terms signature check).
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August 30, 2018, 05:51:06 PM |
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They are not part of the main chain, but these blocks do exist. And they are indexed and searchable. You can view the block info of orphaned blocks here: https://www.blockchain.com/en/btc/orphaned-blocksThe orphaned blocks are valid blocks which are not part of the main chain, but contain valid transactions. Bob123, thanks for the info, but that only shows back to March of 2014,
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August 31, 2018, 01:43:29 AM |
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Hi everyone! I am not sure where I need to post to get help...I will explain my situation below:
On August 9th I sent two transactions from my Kraken account to my coinbase account. These transactions were sent to the same coinbase wallet address about 15min apart... one transaction was for .09 Bitcoin and the other .64 roughly. The first transaction went into my coinbase wallet no problem, the second transaction has still not hot my coinbase account. I have contacted both Kraken and Coinbase with no luck. Kraken says the transaction was successful so they cannot do anything on there end...Coinbase says that the wallet address is not linked to my coinbase account...however this is not true as transaction #1 for $600 roughly went into my coinbase wallet...transaction #2 is still sitting on the block chain and is roughly $4,000 which is a lot for me. I have all the picture proof of the transaction on Kraken showing both sent to same wallet....coinbase keeps telling me that the wallet is not a coinbase wallet. I am stuck and have no way to get my $4,000. I am very stressed out and do not know what to do! Any help someone can offer would be greatly appreciated!
Thank You!
I would probably start a new post, so that more people would see the subject related to your situation. If you received one transaction and haven't received the other, I would look to make sure that you typed the address the same in both. Then check block chain to make sure the transaction are there. if both are there, then contact coinbase again.
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August 31, 2018, 03:56:27 AM |
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Get the transaction IDs from Kraken, look them up on a block explorer...
Double check that: - the second transaction is actually confirmed. - the second transaction actually sends to the same address as the first transaction.
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September 03, 2018, 01:30:47 PM |
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Can anyone explain what would happen if I created a wallet in 2010 and someone sent coins to the wallet address, gave me a tx number that I stuck in and hit receive, shut the wallet down and left Bitcoin demon running ( It probably didn't sync with the network) and went to work. When I got home the power had been off and the computer was off, I never had it back online since then. I looked on the block chain at old addresses and don't see that amount around the time it happened.
If some one sent the coins to that walle, then there should be the coins, even if the wallet get down or get offline, the bitcoin network keeps running, so there is no reason to not see the coins on the addy, unless the transaction get a double spend. Maybe when you take a look at that block you search for a wrong addy, bitcoins doesn't disappear in the air, so if that transaction was really made, it should be listed in the blockchain.
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September 13, 2018, 07:05:09 AM |
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Nope (sorry) I don't have their email address and even if I did then releasing other folks personal details to a completely random entity would not be something I would consider doing. Anyhow, that account is still active sometimes so maybe you might try to PM them directly? If I could pm him I would, but changes to this forum since 2010 won't allow me based on the newbie status. There's other ways of helping me get in touch with him, without giving personal information. Thanks for responding though. for every PM i get, I get an email...search your email for any old PMs you got.
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September 23, 2018, 03:42:58 PM |
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Is there a list of the first two hundred users of this forum. I've seen lists of 30 some but no higher. Any help?
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September 23, 2018, 11:32:12 PM |
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It would have been nice to see 102-130
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September 24, 2018, 03:30:08 PM |
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Interesting to see how Hal Finney joined much later, even if he was the first person to ever receive a bitcoin transaction. I guess he stuck to the mailing list. Also would be interesting to know who the number 2 deleted profile was and the first deleted ones too. About finding orphaned blocks older than what is seen on blockchain info, you can use -printblocktree or just use this file that theymos posted of his own node: https://www.mirrored.to/files/1EB4UZDD/printblocktree.txt.bz2_links
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Yes I would like to have a copy of that theymos file, if anyone has a copy, could you pm me.
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September 25, 2018, 07:18:23 AM |
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Can anyone explain what would happen if I created a wallet in 2010 and someone sent coins to the wallet address, gave me a tx number that I stuck in and hit receive, shut the wallet down and left Bitcoin demon running ( It probably didn't sync with the network) and went to work. When I got home the power had been off and the computer was off, I never had it back online since then. I looked on the block chain at old addresses and don't see that amount around the time it happened.
If the transaction was successful, there is no need to even boot up a client or wallet (for years if you don't want to), once you start the client and fully sync the blockchain, the coins will be there. Have you checked the blockexplorer?
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I'm assuming that " does not exist " is because they were anonymous, because in the beginning you could post as anonymous and that is why I don't see any of the conversations that I had with people. But I probably had a username back then, because I received pm's. Not sure why it would have been deleted though.
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October 01, 2018, 04:29:00 PM |
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Make 7 more posts (don't spam!), and you'll be a Jr. Member, which allows you to PM anybody.
Well that didn't last long (Jr member) because of the merit system it switched me back to newbie status.
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October 01, 2018, 05:15:36 PM |
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So while the majority of transactions has been added to the mainchain through other blocks, a few have not been added (which are still valid itself in terms signature check).
So of the few transactions that have not been added ( would they be added to the main chain after a signature check)
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October 01, 2018, 07:08:23 PM |
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Make 7 more posts (don't spam!), and you'll be a Jr. Member, which allows you to PM anybody.
Well that didn't last long (Jr member) because of the merit system it switched me back to newbie status. Noted. You're not a spammer, so Merit shouldn't restrict you.
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