LOTTOCOIN OLD THREAD, [CLOSED]

[funkycoin]

From Redcoin to Funkycoin:
Hey fucktard, ... This idiot... better than the abortions you made.... You are not an expert you are a dickhead.... so fuck off,

By the way... for anyone wishing to learn just how much of a 'fucktard' and 'idiot' I really am and to understand just some of the blatant flaws of the current branding of lottocoin, please read my thread here for tips on how to successfully brand your ALT coin:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390797.0

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[Redcoin]

@ fuckycoin,

can you please show us what contributions you have made, except for saying all our sites, games and graphics suck?  

Wheres the sites and stuff you have made, or promoting you have done to support this project? Or do you think the"devs" and everyone else are your slaves?

Just because no one is interested to pay you an outrageous payment,  no need to go bitching about everyone elses work


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390797.0   is just advertising his service, and proves hes clueless, who has even heard of those coins you made? yea you are really good....  perhaps show us what exchanges they are  on.  or what we can buy with these coins....

[Protato]

Why don't we stop arguing and look into development? Promote the lottocoin foundation? the games? could just ignore those retards who flame

[Redcoin]

Why don't we stop arguing and look into development? Promote the lottocoin foundation? the games? could just ignore those retards who flame

i would like that too, i need to control myself. It just makes me so mad, somone who contributes absolutely nothing, and really has no idea about crypto, has the nerve to post unjustified negative comments about the casino, ive been working 80hrs per week on.

Anyway, breath deep, breath out, breath deep, breath out.

Ok, im over it. hes added to my ignore list

[dedicatedpool]

Why don't we stop arguing and look into development? Promote the lottocoin foundation? the games? could just ignore those retards who flame

i would like that too, i need to control myself. It just makes me so mad, somone who contributes absolutely nothing, and really has no idea about crypto, has the nerve to post unjustified negative comments about the casino, ive been working 80hrs per week on.

Anyway, breath deep, breath out, breath deep, breath out.

Ok, im over it. hes added to my ignore list

+1  Stay on the high road redcoin.

http://dedicatedpool.com
Ryan, dedicatedpool.com support/admin
admin@dedicatedpool.com / IRC on freenode #dedicatedpool
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[funkycoin]

Here we go again, attack rather than constructive contribution:
@ fuckycoin
somone [SIC] who contributes absolutely nothing, and really has no idea about crypto

I understand you are mad, i would be too if my coin had made some fundamental schoolboy branding mistakes that had directly lead to it not being taken seriously when it hit the exchanges.

Major contributor in that I initiated the both the campaign to change the lottocoin logo AND the slogan resulting in a great new slogan and a much better logo.

Here's what I contributed on 29 Dec... it may have been harsh but if heeded at the time Lotto would have not suffered the ID crisis it has now gone through. well actually I can't quote it as the official forum site is down... anyone else having this problem???

Some of my advice was eventually taken on board (to redesign the logo) by Old Miner who used my graphics as samples for the direction he wanted the coin to go in (My Input and me pushing for a redesign!!!). But unfortunately my advice was actioned way too late for the launch and many of the attributes of the current logo fall short of what is required for a world class brand. My critique was never just to criticize ... I went into detail of what needed to be done and why it needed to be done... I contributed at length, and held the bar up high so Lotto could be promoted as a world class brand. The current logo, although 'striking' in its realism still fails on many different levels, period. Again, I ask you to carefully read my branding thread, which is there to give useful tips on the CORRECT way to brand your ALT coin. Forget my coins for the moment as they have not been launched yet, but read the actual content of the advice.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390797.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390797.0
 

[lotto-fan]

Guys the website has been updated with a contact link at the bottom, if there are any games, services, or pools missing, or suggestions, please email the webmaster directly from the site. http://lottocoin.org


Who would like to run a couple of give away threads? I have 2x 500,000  to donate, to either 1 or 2 persons. you can keep 85% 15% for your self and give away the rest. You can offer like 500 or 1000 coins each, till its used up. we need 1 on bitcointalk and 1 on cryptocointalk

[iikun]

Here we go again, attack rather than constructive contribution:
@ fuckycoin
somone [SIC] who contributes absolutely nothing, and really has no idea about crypto

I understand you are mad, i would be too if my coin had made some fundamental schoolboy branding mistakes that had directly lead to it not being taken seriously when it hit the exchanges.

Major contributor in that I initiated the both the campaign to change the lottocoin logo AND the slogan resulting in a great new slogan and a much better logo.

Here's what I contributed on 29 Dec... it may have been harsh but if heeded at the time Lotto would have not suffered the ID crisis it has now gone through. well actually I can't quote it as the official forum site is down... anyone else having this problem???

Some of my advice was eventually taken on board (to redesign the logo) by Old Miner who used my graphics as samples for the direction he wanted the coin to go in (My Input and me pushing for a redesign!!!). But unfortunately my advice was actioned way too late for the launch and many of the attributes of the current logo fall short of what is required for a world class brand. My critique was never just to criticize ... I went into detail of what needed to be done and why it needed to be done... I contributed at length, and held the bar up high so Lotto could be promoted as a world class brand. The current logo, although 'striking' in its realism still fails on many different levels, period. Again, I ask you to carefully read my branding thread, which is there to give useful tips on the CORRECT way to brand your ALT coin. Forget my coins for the moment as they have not been launched yet, but read the actual content of the advice.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390797.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390797.0
 

If you want to be taken seriously you need to learn how to offer constructive criticism. Coming in here with a low activity count, boasting of "25 years experience blah blah" and then asking for a payment in excess of $500 per hour for a design is not usually how it's done.

You are correct that the launch could have been handled better, but the launch is done & finished now. If you want to be a part of this community pls start looking to the future rather than moaning about the past. Discussion is healthy for this thread/community but playing the "I told you so" card is not. I hope you can see that.

[y3804]

Hampuz and RB acting like they don't recognize each other?

Retards.

No one is falling into your traps

[funkycoin]

If you want to be taken seriously you need to learn how to offer constructive criticism. Coming in here with a low activity count, boasting of "25 years experience blah blah" and then asking for a payment in excess of $500 per hour for a design is not usually how it's done. You are correct that the launch could have been handled better, but the launch is done & finished now. If you want to be a part of this community pls start looking to the future rather than moaning about the past. Discussion is healthy for this thread/community but playing the "I told you so" card is not. I hope you can see that.

The post you refer to was in direct response to redcoins request that I illustrate where I had contributed... If he had been reading the forum i would not of course made back reference to my contribution and he would not have bothered to challenge me on this, but as this was an attempt to undermine the contribution I have made and also undermine my personal integrity within this public forum I have the right to reply and give reference to the contribution I have made which represents THE major initiative in changing the logo and slogan.

Again, If you had been following the thread of the logo design competition I spent many posts giving constructive criticism to help avoid some of the problems we now have with the branding... constructive criticism (if you bothered to read my posts) is a device I have regularly employed to effect change since joining this forum so your comment is a little out of place here.

'Discussion is healthy for this thread/community' is a theme I have also mentioned many times in this thread when there has been 'heated' debate and I am in total agreement with you here.

[y3804]

If you want to be taken seriously you need to learn how to offer constructive criticism. Coming in here with a low activity count, boasting of "25 years experience blah blah" and then asking for a payment in excess of $500 per hour for a design is not usually how it's done. You are correct that the launch could have been handled better, but the launch is done & finished now. If you want to be a part of this community pls start looking to the future rather than moaning about the past. Discussion is healthy for this thread/community but playing the "I told you so" card is not. I hope you can see that.

The post you refer to was in direct response to redcoins request that I illustrate where I had contributed... If he had been reading the forum i would not of course made back reference to my contribution and he would not have bothered to challenge me on this, but as this was an attempt to undermine the contribution I have made and also undermine my personal integrity within this public forum I have the right to reply and give reference to the contribution I have made which represents THE major initiative in changing the logo and slogan.

Again, If you had been following the thread of the logo design competition I spent many posts giving constructive criticism to a help avoid some of the problems we now have with the branding... constructive criticism (if you bothered to read my posts) is a device I have regularly employed to effect change since joining this forum so your comment is a little out of place here.

'Discussion is healthy for this thread/community' is a theme I have also mentioned many times in this thread when there is 'heated' debate and I am in total agreement with you here.

+1.

If you want to be taken seriously you need to learn how to offer constructive criticism. Coming in here with a low activity count, boasting of "25 years experience blah blah" and then asking for a payment in excess of $500 per hour for a design is not usually how it's done.

You are correct that the launch could have been handled better, but the launch is done & finished now. If you want to be a part of this community pls start looking to the future rather than moaning about the past. Discussion is healthy for this thread/community but playing the "I told you so" card is not. I hope you can see that.

Read the ~50 last pages or so before posting BS. If you want a quick recap then simply ask.

There are several issues that we need to consider as a community before moving on.

[KeyserSozeMC]

If you want to be taken seriously you need to learn how to offer constructive criticism. Coming in here with a low activity count, boasting of "25 years experience blah blah" and then asking for a payment in excess of $500 per hour for a design is not usually how it's done. You are correct that the launch could have been handled better, but the launch is done & finished now. If you want to be a part of this community pls start looking to the future rather than moaning about the past. Discussion is healthy for this thread/community but playing the "I told you so" card is not. I hope you can see that.

The post you refer to was in direct response to redcoins request that I illustrate where I had contributed... If he had been reading the forum i would not of course made back reference to my contribution and he would not have bothered to challenge me on this, but as this was an attempt to undermine the contribution I have made and also undermine my personal integrity within this public forum I have the right to reply and give reference to the contribution I have made which represents THE major initiative in changing the logo and slogan.

Again, If you had been following the thread of the logo design competition I spent many posts giving constructive criticism to a help avoid some of the problems we now have with the branding... constructive criticism (if you bothered to read my posts) is a device I have regularly employed to effect change since joining this forum so your comment is a little out of place here.

'Discussion is healthy for this thread/community' is a theme I have also mentioned many times in this thread when there is 'heated' debate and I am in total agreement with you here.

+1.

If you want to be taken seriously you need to learn how to offer constructive criticism. Coming in here with a low activity count, boasting of "25 years experience blah blah" and then asking for a payment in excess of $500 per hour for a design is not usually how it's done.

You are correct that the launch could have been handled better, but the launch is done & finished now. If you want to be a part of this community pls start looking to the future rather than moaning about the past. Discussion is healthy for this thread/community but playing the "I told you so" card is not. I hope you can see that.

Read the ~50 last pages or so before posting BS. If you want a quick recap then simply ask.

There are several issues that we need to consider as a community before moving on.

?

[jdebunt]

There are several issues that we need to consider as a community before moving on.

I take it you still want to be a part of this community then? If so,  the door's open, you just have to come in & bring some ideas to the table if you have any

[y3804]

I can't believe you guys take words at face value. It's obvious I'm not part of this community and would never wish to, but to offer mr. iikun (who seems to value the sense of community) some insight as an outsider is rather awkward. I therefore had to 'fake' my affiliation with this shit community.

edit: @jdebunt answer is NO, Lot doesn't need more ideas. It needs to move backward and solve all its structural problems which have been restated countless times over the past 100 pages.

[funkycoin]

iikun

Think of Lottocoin as a successful global super brand... this was the premise I began with when investing in the coin and also offering my advice

Please ask yourself:
• Did the old logo represent a successful global super brand. SIMPLE ANSWER: NO
• Does the new logo represent a successful global brand: WE GOT HALF WAY THERE
• Does branding effect end user and investor confidence: YES
• Should a brand with a market cap in excess of XXXX and with a potential future market cap of XXXX (you do the math) be launched on a piece of poor clip art. NO
• Is 3 Bitcoin, in the scheme of the evolution of a global super brand too much to spend pre-launch? ??

Lesson:
Don't scrimp on branding costs just because 'it is not done around here like this'.

Please, please read my branding advice thread to understand exactly why branding is so important when launching a coin and why major corporates spend many millions (not low thousands) on their brand development. And lastly... if you think 3 Bitcoin is too much then you will never launch a global super brand successfully unless you know a brand consultant or pay a brand consultant. I can assure you, when you find out how much pro-brand consultants charge (not micky mouse designers who have a 3D progeam they know how to use)* you will discover how little 3 bitcoin is.

[Edit] *Appologies but this statement was not aimed at the current lotto logo designer who actually did quite well under the circumstances.


 

[jdebunt]

I can't believe you guys take words at face value. It's obvious I'm not part of this community and would never wish to, but to offer mr. iikun (who seems to value the sense of community) some insight as an outsider is rather awkward. I therefore had to 'fake' my affiliation with this shit community.

Well you weren't too great at detecting sarcasm either it seems

You can do as you like, hate it or like it, I'm not losing sleep over it tbh

Even if it doesn't work out, at least I know I TRIED fixing a problem instead of sitting there & mocking other people's efforts

[damnation]

ohh...

POPCORN!!!!

Seriously though.. arent we just rehashing the same thing over and over again...

Common Topics:
1) Funky's- 3BTC for 6 hour of design.
2) C3ALL "Open Book Premine"
3) y3804... everything.

Did i miss anything else?

[funkycoin]

ohh...

POPCORN!!!!

Seriously though.. arent we just rehashing the same thing over and over again...

Common Topics:
1) Funky's- 3BTC for 6 hour of design.
2) C3ALL "Open Book Premine"
3) y3804... everything.

Did i miss anything else?

these guys have not been following the thread... just filling them in... let's move on now

[C3ALL]

Offer is still open from me for 25% of the premine.

For those wanting ideas that will separate LOT from the crowd.

1.  Completely open book accounts on the premine.  If I had 1 LOT for each time I've said it I'd probably have 25% of the premine.

If the people who truly support this coin want it to be different, it needs to be different!

Even the guy who was paid to market this coin that is now involved in his own coin, has done open book on premine, and hopefully will show details of all transactions involving the premine coins.

Now.  That's not a fun post, its not being negative, its an honest view and serious suggestion.  If this wants to break free from being considered another "scam" coin with premine ready to dump, then this information needs making public.

[y3804]

ohh...

POPCORN!!!!

Seriously though.. arent we just rehashing the same thing over and over again...

Common Topics:
1) Funky's- 3BTC for 6 hour of design.
2) C3ALL "Open Book Premine"
3) y3804... everything.

Did i miss anything else?

Newcomers investing in LOT and Hampuz/RB brainwashing them again. There is a need for repetition until everyone is convinced LOT is dog shit OR until the devs finally take a look at the concerns which have been described countless times