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December 29, 2013, 01:15:49 PM
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One of my friends has few questions about this project. But he can not replay this post, hence I help post his words as follows:

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1. Are the author from an English speaking country? My answer is NO! Just see below two sentences in the thread, you will find it.
a)About me:
I'mnotSatoshiNakamotohedoesnotexistsoamI - The English native speaker should say ' Neither do I' but ' So do I'
b)'It will makes vsc a really easy-to-use.' , you can find out the grammar error easily here - 'will makes'!!!

2. Why end up the IPO so hurry even if no whitepaper come out?

3. The author's position is just a Jr. Member, how can we trust a Jr. Member?

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December 29, 2013, 01:29:43 PM
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Visacoin:Born for circulation
-Method of payment and Circulation based on BTC-Gold


Using VSC,Simple like using your Visa




2013.12.29 Important update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389958.0

VSC  IPO,Take off now ! ! !                                                                   Amount:21.0602BTC Has Received

Blockchain: https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

Remind:Do not forget to pm me

Why do we need Visacoin?

Most of the time a dollar is in your wallet in the morning and in the afternoon it’s in the Starbuck’s register. We rarely keep the same dollars in our pocket for more than days at a time, no matter how rich or poor we might be. My experience in the bank industry has taught me if there is no circulation, the dollar is just a piece of paper. Conversely, if that same dollar circulates, its value will be doubled. Take a look at your BTC, how long have you kept your bitcoin in your personal wallets? From the moment you get them, they often do not move outside of the confines of your wallet addresses.

There are many reasons for that but one of them are that BTC wallets are very inconvenient to use:
-   They are 8G or more
-   We have to wait for confirmation that amounts to 10 minutes of our time or more
-   You cannot use them for every purchase you’d like to make (You’re starving but cannot use your BTC to buy a hamburger at a specific burger joint)

There are many problems with BTC preventing it from widespread use. BTC in a lot of ways is gold, and we don’t directly use gold as trade for goods and services. It’s not practical. We don’t walk into KFC offering a unit of gold in exchange for a bucket of chicken. BTC is the same way. For a digital currency to function in everyday commerce a coin must be easy to use, easy to carry, lightweight, and without copious amounts of data. Visacoin is that answer.
      
What is Visacoin?

Visacoin is a convenient, safe and reliable method of payment.
How? If you have a deep knowledge of BTC, you know BTC is actually a book -- recording the data source and destination. Visacoin only selects what’s useful to us in the Blockchain. Visacoin is not trying to create an entirely new blockchain like every other cryptocurrency. Instead, it is trying to make the existing BTC blockchain more efficient. Visacoin’s only purpose is to achieve the format necessary for a simple and easy BTC transaction with the use of a card or smartphone. Buy what you want with no waiting, no matter when, no matter where.

How can we get Visacoin?

As mentioned above, Visacoin is not creating its own blockchain, but is selecting from the BTC blockchain. This can accelerate the process of our transaction. Thusly, Visacoin is another form of BTC.

Given this feature we don't have to develop a coin and waste everyone's time on mining. So we are using crowdfunding, similar to the way MSC has.

If you want to get VSC do the following:

1. Deadline: 3 months (90 days) 2014.3.31 will be the final day of the crowdfund. The earlier join in this project the more benefits you get (later I will detail what those are).
2. Limit: In the design, we don't stipulate a minimum and maximum limit. You can send 1mbtc, or1000btc. You choose.
3. Method: Send any amount of BTC to 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb By the Visacoin foundation management).(Do not forget to pm me),this will affect how much VSC will you get.
https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

How much Visacoin can we get
Depends on the following three factors:
A: Total BTC of project received.
B: How much BTC you sent.
C: When you send it during the project period (The first month in can get extra rewards).

Extra rewards:

In order to encourage everyone to actively participate in the project, I own part of the BTC as a reward. The first person who sends more than 1 BTC will get the same number of BTC as a reward. The first month in can get extra 1.1X, the second month 1.05X.

DO YOU WANT TO WORK FOR VISACOIN?

We have a ton of work to do. You can help, and get paid for your work!

We have:
1. Working to build wallets and independent software projects.
2. Writing specs for various features.
3. A PR company.
4. Project Management
5. Hiring

And many more…
    To find a project,  Please apply by emailing  vsccoins@gmail.com.

   We also need to set up a foundation to manage the daily affairs. Including but not limited to the following content:
   1)Release the latest progress of the project,
   2)Supervise the use of money
   3)Solve technical problems
   4)To solve the public doubt
   Etc.
   If you are an honest man(It is more important than any other requirements),and have the time and the ability to management the team,
You can contact me by email(vsccoins@gmail.com),

Now I need at least three people to help me finish prophase works.

Github:https://github.com/visacoin/vsc

Medium and long-term plan will be released.

Blockchain:https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

  
VSC Logo Design Contest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0
website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

I didn't realize that a project will have so many questions on the first day,I all day in response to the question,Really frustrating!!!

New Progress
Short-term plans:
1) Designing a logo of vsc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0

2) Build a formal website
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

3)Finished whitepaper
Is writing

Medium-term plan:
1)Set up a Foundation
In different countries and regions
2)Recruitment software developers
((Wallet For Windows.luinx and Mac os.released sourcecodes))
3)Develop an API(for iPhone and android)

In this Step,
development the main functions of vsc:
Secured transactions
Credit facility
Automatic transfers between accounts
Foreign Currency Exchange
Electronic money
more:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385739.0


Some notes:
1)This project has only just begun. Lots of work waiting to be done,I have gave up my Christmas holidays
Many people want to see the fruits immediately, They want to want to wake up tomorrow and be a millionaire,. We need hard work to achieve that.
2)This project is like a baby. There are many aspects that need to improve,. There may be all kinds of problems, but we cannot deny the viability of Visacoin because of flaws that might arise.
3)I'm tired of responding to a variety of suspicions on the project ,so,I will only answer questions about technical issues. If you do not believe, that is fine but please leave. This project is open source.,
4) I must remind: everyone that any project has the possibility of failure, including this one, mscs plight has confirmed this, I'd rather you see it as an attempt ,a kind of opportunity which  can change the BTCworld. If it fails, I would lose all my btc, so I will try my best to make it successful.

I will always publish any new progress I make.

Thanks to those who have encouraged me!!

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!!!

Let's see what our kind friend found about the thread, it was found by one of my friend but me.

The Visacoin author published the thread
Name:   Visacoin
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Date Registered:   December 24, 2013, 05:29:22 PM

The author was trying to find some one to translate the thread
Local / 山寨币 / 第二代比特币Visacoin的发布,以BTC作为酬劳的翻译任务    on: December 25, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
Visacoin is a  new currency is being developed,based on BTC-Gold

The project  purpose is to use  btc easier,like use your Visa card

文章在这:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.0

翻译中文并在这个板块发布

最好的你得到0.12BTC or100vsc


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Name:   cmj007cmj
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The author(maybe same person as Visacoin) ilan translated the thread, but he/she did not get the 0.12BTC bounties at address 17SXR6xpCRcxUCgSMf52BFjdUpxTAxQdYm.
Name:   ilan【中文翻译者,17SXR6xpCRcxUCgSMf52BFjdUpxTAxQdYm,这个地址没有得到visacoin的许诺的0.12BTC翻译费】
Posts:   7
Activity:   7
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 19, 2013, 08:26:22 AM
Last Active:   December 27, 2013, 11:20:40 AM
ilan在这里表露了做山寨的意思:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=380617.msg4086593#msg4086593

Pretended to translate the thread.
Name:   Ribuce.J【假装翻译:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384551.msg4137324#msg4137324】
Posts:   3
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Date Registered:   December 25, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
Last Active:   December 26, 2013, 06:44:52 AM


See above evidence and find out the truth.

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December 29, 2013, 01:34:50 PM
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One of my friends has few questions about this project. But he can not replay this post, hence I help post his words as follows:

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1. Are the author from an English speaking country? My answer is NO! Just see below two sentences in the thread, you will find it.
a)About me:
I'mnotSatoshiNakamotohedoesnotexistsoamI - The English native speaker should say ' Neither do I' but ' So do I'
b)'It will makes vsc a really easy-to-use.' , you can find out the grammar error easily here - 'will makes'!!!

2. Why end up the IPO so hurry even if no whitepaper come out?

3. The author's position is just a Jr. Member, how can we trust a Jr. Member?

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1)The OP might be French

2) The IPO ending early is good because BTC price is volatile, lot of people will not want to lock down their investment for three months.

3) I have seen developer releasing coins under their new coin flagship account. We all started from newbie status.
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December 29, 2013, 01:41:55 PM
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The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.
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December 29, 2013, 01:46:38 PM
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@Visacoin, could you please identify yourself?
Since you are taking money from the community and are doing fundraiser the MSC way, J.R. identified himself and showed his qulification.
Where are you from? your qulificaton? and so on.. please?

Re-post in case the OP didn't see it.
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December 29, 2013, 01:48:13 PM
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The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?
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December 29, 2013, 02:00:55 PM
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Rename it, rename it, rename it, for god sake's rename it!  I am not exactly sure what your end game with this coin is (if you are not a scammer and actually have an endgame beyond steal as much BTC as possible in the next 3 months) but if it ever involves this coin being used as payment to online businesses, NO ONE will accept it because they will have VISA, ya know, as in VISA CARD up their ass.  Seriously, do you think Apple would ever allow a Visacoin app in the app store?  Welp, ya just shut out ipad and iphone users from your potential userbase over a silly name you were too stubborn to change.  Even if there was the slightest possibility of the name causing an issue in the future, why invite that potential complication in the future?  

And really it is just a shit marketing move in the first place.  We all know about VISA cards, they are used by millions across the world everyday for years now.  Give it a name that sparks the interest of the general population, let's them know this is something new they have never seen before.  When someone hears the word "bitcoin" for the first time, invariably their response is "what's that?".  It is new, it is fresh, it gets them interested.  If I heard "visacoin" for the first time outside this forum, I'd assume it was some dopey marketing ploy by VISA to get me to give them more money and not even bother finding out what it was.

Seriously, name change, white paper, and I'll flick some BTC towards this thing and see what happens.
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December 29, 2013, 02:07:53 PM
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Visacoin and MsCollec should be the same person. What do you think?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386712.msg4162941#msg4162941
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December 29, 2013, 02:08:06 PM
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The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?


No
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Last edit: December 29, 2013, 08:02:10 PM by MsCollec
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Visacoin and MsCollec should be the same person. What do you think?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386712.msg4162941#msg4162941


Hahahaha   Grin i think you are Satoshi Nakamoto
I'm just an early adaptor who saw the potential in VSC  and actively promoting it
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December 29, 2013, 02:14:37 PM
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The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?


No

Why  can you answer the 3 questions for Visacoin? Why do you know what Visacoin think?
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December 29, 2013, 02:24:50 PM
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The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?


No

Why  can you answer the 3 questions for Visacoin? Why do you know what Visacoin think?



Are you a learner?  Can't you find the answer to your 3 questions in the posts.  You just jump on the bandwagon without researching. Look at the spreadsheet he listed French as his language.
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December 29, 2013, 02:27:18 PM
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The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?


No
懒得跟你说英语。别想骗天朝的, 忽悠老外,不反对不支持。 Grin Grin

So you are not retarded, you just pretending to be lazy
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December 29, 2013, 02:33:21 PM
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The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?


No

Why  can you answer the 3 questions for Visacoin? Why do you know what Visacoin think?



Are you a learner?  Can't you find the answer to your 3 questions in the posts.  You just jump on the bandwagon without researching. Look at the spreadsheet he listed French as his language.


So you left your email as 'mscollec@hotmail.ca', anyone know what the 'hotmail.ca' is? Hopefully you mistyped it, hopefully Visacoin mistyped his/her language.
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December 29, 2013, 06:22:33 PM
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The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?


No

Why  can you answer the 3 questions for Visacoin? Why do you know what Visacoin think?


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Are you a learner?  Can't you find the answer to your 3 questions in the posts.  You just jump on the bandwagon without researching. Look at the spreadsheet he listed French as his language.


So you left your email as 'mscollec@hotmail.ca', anyone know what the 'hotmail.ca' is? Hopefully you mistyped it, hopefully Visacoin mistyped his/her language.


Hotmail .Ca= Canada
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December 29, 2013, 09:02:35 PM
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my main concern is the name and branding, have you thought about copyright issues? If this is a long term project don't you think this will cause conflict with Visa ? Visa one of the largest and most powerful payment institutions on the planet. they will surely come after you at some point when you go mainstream.

you're using their name and even your logo has the blue/orange colors in it.

Can you please clarify this, i'm interested in this project but the name is a big concern.

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December 29, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
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So, after NXT got some popularity, albeit based on promises, this scam coin is trying to do the same.
21 BTC (such a coincidence!) "donated" ROFL
Get a life, and a real job perhaps
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December 29, 2013, 09:36:22 PM
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Had 1 BTC lying around so sent it over, emailing now. Please confirm that you have recieved here. Transaction ID 164376d3f05349a6f2c5d0214a262845ac713d68d3caf939114e974edb748f73 .
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December 29, 2013, 09:47:16 PM
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One minute silence for our brothers and sisters who fell for this scam.
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