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[Visacoin]

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[tk808]

It's a Scam

[wakasaki808]

Interesting...still confused but I am in I guess...lol

[Drexme]

I smell NXT

[wakasaki808]

I smell NXT

especially this part

3.Method:
1)Choose a secret phrase.
2)use online calculator ( http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator ) Calculate SHA256 hash of this phrase.
3)Send any amount to 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb（By the foundation management）, don’t forget to attach the message with the hash you got.

lol

[Drexme]

I would send BTC, but how do I know you won't run off with our coins?

[wakasaki808]

Maybe you should add how to add a hash message to the transaction for those new to this.

Create a wallet here http://blockchain.info and add the message through this

[markm]

Which card networks accept your card, and where is the github repo of the source code, and where is the whitepaper?

Also can you prove that a trusted escrow agent controls the address you are asking people to send bitcoins to, rather than it being controlled by a sockpuppet / scammer anonymous alias who has only one post, no source code, no debit card / cash-card arrangement set up with any card-networks, no whitepaper, no trusted escrow to hold any funds, and, seemingly, no intent to do anything other that simply steal bitcoins under false pretences?

-MarkM-

[Cognate]

Reserved simply so I can say I reserved.

[alrose]

Waiting for the whitepaper

[allwelder]

The total number of SVC is not certain?

[zhangdu]

i want to join this project.

[OKNXT]

Waiting for the whitepaper

thank you for your attention

What's the eta?

[led_lcd]

Visa might not be very happy about the name...

[OKNXT]

Definitely Scam!

1 BTC  = 1000 VSC

1 VSC = 0.001 BTC

Nothing!

[OKNXT]

You promised white paper, so what is the eta for your white paper?

Don't tell me in April!
 

[allwelder]

I would send BTC, but how do I know you won't run off with our coins?

I investment more than 300 btc  in this project，and the BTC of project received，in addition to a small part for the payment of compensation program development，all used to convert the VSC

NXT just received 27 BTC all global and NXT may be created by Satoshi.
So you will be the biggest stakeholder ,even the only one.

[nocoin]

Has no specs but ready to take our money. I love this project.

[Ardolafat]

Such visa 
Waiting for mastercard 

[markm]

What did you spend your 300 bitcoins on, exactly?

Surely for 300 bitcoins you should have been able to take some time off work to write your whitepaper, and hire programmers to help you finish your code, and maybe even pay whatever fees or deposits the card networks want for accepting your card on their network?

Paying 300 bitcoins and not even getting a github repo out of the deal sounds like you got ripped off...

-MarkM-

[MsCollec]

I think this has a great potential and definitely a competitor to Nxt and MSC.

[zhangdu]

i'd rather believe you got a great idea and want it become true, but why total number of visacoin should depend on project received, let's say, just a example. you received 10btc, then you will made total number of visacoin: 10x1000???

[OKNXT]

I would send BTC, but how do I know you won't run off with our coins?

I investment more than 300 btc  in this project，and the BTC of project received，in addition to a small part for the payment of compensation program development，all used to convert the VSC

NXT just received 27 BTC all global and NXT may be created by Satoshi.
So you will be the biggest stakeholder ,even the only one.

No, not 27 BTC. It's about 21 BTC.

During those about 2 months, BCNext disclosed a lot of design feature, API and replied, discussed all tech questions with the participants.

But for visa coin, the guy said he put a lot 300 BTC, and he also prepared to accept the investor 1000 BTC.

[OKNXT]

Definitely Scam!

1 BTC  = 1000 VSC

1 VSC = 0.001 BTC

Nothing!

The total number of SVC depends on the total BTC of project received.

maybe 1btc=1000vsc+extra rewards or even more

isnot certain now

Hey，man，You might as well throw your time use on the question, is inferior to help me to advance the project
can you??I really need help ，have to respond to groundless question like you，in addition to promote the project

Of course,
Stood on the shore ，not wet shoes ，No fish too
The decision in your hands  
I said more than enough

Yes, I can help you. If you take it serious, I can use my real account and provide the fund escrow service so as to advance your project and also let the investor be safe.

[allwelder]

@visacoin,I also want to help you,but you should be sure that you dont kid all of us on Christmas day.

[Ardolafat]

I've just invested my 10000 BTC in my new....em...goooglecoin(!!!). Now I'm 100% stakeholder of google(Fuck yeah! )
You can become a stakeholder in google - send me a lot of btc.

Launching a little bit after 3rd January( )

[allwelder]

I would send BTC, but how do I know you won't run off with our coins?

I investment more than 300 btc  in this project，and the BTC of project received，in addition to a small part for the payment of compensation program development，all used to convert the VSC

NXT just received 27 BTC all global and NXT may be created by Satoshi.
So you will be the biggest stakeholder ,even the only one.

No, not 27 BTC. It's about 21 BTC.

During those about 2 months, BCNext disclosed a lot of design feature, API and replied, discussed all tech questions with the participants.

But for visa coin, the guy said he put a lot 300 BTC, and he also prepared to accept the investor 1000 BTC.

May be he did not know the price of BTC.

[markm]

Oh a joke, of course, yeah, this thread is a satire of the Mastercoin project...

-MarkM-

[Amph]

i want my reservedcoin now!

[wizzardTim]

Maybe you should add how to add a hash message to the transaction for those new to this.

Create a wallet here http://blockchain.info and add the message through this

Is it so simple? Why should Visacoin have the hash? Won't the hash be the key to the new VSC wallet?

Edit: @Visacoin: the hash will be needed just to fund the account with VSC?

[RoooooR]

Nice try..

[markm]

Oh a joke, of course, yeah, this thread is a satire of the Mastercoin project...

-MarkM-

Mastercoin is a good project，but there are also defects

Well by all means get over there and help them fix them...

-MarkM-

[KoningKaas]

What did you spend your 300 bitcoins on, exactly?

Surely for 300 bitcoins you should have been able to take some time off work to write your whitepaper, and hire programmers to help you finish your code, and maybe even pay whatever fees or deposits the card networks want for accepting your card on their network?

Paying 300 bitcoins and not even getting a github repo out of the deal sounds like you got ripped off...

-MarkM-

this 
shenanigans

[wizzardTim]

Maybe you should add how to add a hash message to the transaction for those new to this.

Create a wallet here http://blockchain.info and add the message through this

Is it so simple? Why should Visacoin have the hash? Won't the hash be the key to the new VSC wallet?

Edit: @Visacoin: the hash will be needed just to fund the account with VSC?

Visacoin can I have your answer on this?

TIA

[rayen163]

Merry Christmas！！！！！

Forever stand by you！！！！！！

[zaq14701]

Support you 
Waiting for new developments

[Nextgen]

looks interesting

something different then a new altcoin
lets see how it goes

[Bram]

Yep. Another SCAM coin. Send me your coins.


DON'T fall for it people.

[DolanDuck]

Seems legit 

[Bram]

How is it legit? what about it is legit? If they had real plan and business idea, they would go through reputable sources.
They would have their act together and have everything ready before they came out.
They would have their business registered, website done, bank accounts, they would list the Law firm they are working with.
Anyone that does not have a Law firm with this kind of project is on the wrong path and is hiding something.
As a hedge fund manager, I know the signs of SCAMS.


This is a SCAM.

[nocoin]

How is it legit? what about it is legit?If they had real plan and business idea, they would go through reputable sources.
They would have their act together and have everything ready before they came out.
They would have their business registered, website done, bank accounts, they would list the Law firm they are working with.
Anyone that does not have a Law firm with this kind of project is on the wrong path and is hiding something.
As a hedge fund manager, I know the signs of SCAMS.


This is a SCAM.

Lol. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/seems-legit-sounds-legit

[bonnebaguette]

How is it legit? what about it is legit?If they had real plan and business idea, they would go through reputable sources.
They would have their act together and have everything ready before they came out.
They would have their business registered, website done, bank accounts, they would list the Law firm they are working with.
Anyone that does not have a Law firm with this kind of project is on the wrong path and is hiding something.
As a hedge fund manager, I know the signs of SCAMS.


This is a SCAM.

Lol. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/seems-legit-sounds-legit

MADE MY DAY xD

[ruletheworld]

Should be interesting to follow the progress. There are not many details now, if you can publish a whitepaper and give us more leads to do our research (as opposed to "trust me, I am putting your money to good use" scenario) that would be great. Merry Christmas!

[instacalm]

Would be a cool name

[thecoinjournal]

Shouldn't it be @gmail.com instead of gmil.com?

[really]

How is it legit? what about it is legit? If they had real plan and business idea, they would go through reputable sources.
They would have their act together and have everything ready before they came out.
They would have their business registered, website done, bank accounts, they would list the Law firm they are working with.
Anyone that does not have a Law firm with this kind of project is on the wrong path and is hiding something.
As a hedge fund manager, I know the signs of SCAMS.


This is a SCAM.

 从打字的标点符号看以及英语水平看，有可能是中国人搞的，我瞎猜哈。信不信自己判断吧。

[lishily]

国人山寨能力真猛

[Oldminer]

Send me your money & I'll pay you back with interest

Sounds legit

[eureka]

看上去象想要圈钱的感觉。

[Ardolafat]

看上去象想要圈钱的感觉。

Sounds legit

[allwelder]

How is it legit? what about it is legit? If they had real plan and business idea, they would go through reputable sources.
They would have their act together and have everything ready before they came out.
They would have their business registered, website done, bank accounts, they would list the Law firm they are working with.
Anyone that does not have a Law firm with this kind of project is on the wrong path and is hiding something.
As a hedge fund manager, I know the signs of SCAMS.


This is a SCAM.

 从打字的标点符号看以及英语水平看，有可能是中国人搞的，我瞎猜哈。信不信自己判断吧。

这是我收到的最开心的礼物了---这个笑话真好笑。

[Ardolafat]

How is it legit? what about it is legit? If they had real plan and business idea, they would go through reputable sources.
They would have their act together and have everything ready before they came out.
They would have their business registered, website done, bank accounts, they would list the Law firm they are working with.
Anyone that does not have a Law firm with this kind of project is on the wrong path and is hiding something.
As a hedge fund manager, I know the signs of SCAMS.


This is a SCAM.

 从打字的标点符号看以及英语水平看，有可能是中国人搞的，我瞎猜哈。信不信自己判断吧。

这是我收到的最开心的礼物了---这个笑话真好笑。

Sounds legit either

[dewdeded]

What do people mean, when they say "reserved"? What are they "reserving"?

[yorich]

all aboard the fail train.   What's next?  Nigeriancoin?    Block reward of 1 million coins, you just need to send a facilitating nigeriancoin payment to the creators nigeriancoin account first.

Oh...and reserved.   Xie Xie Ni.

[Acidyo]

This sounds like another mastercoin scam.

[z47fly]

i have a question .if i send btc to your address. how you send  vsc to me?

[MsCollec]

It seems it going to be a successful coin since a lot of people are calling it a scam without any proofs and we are know the market cap of so called scams coins i.e MSC and Nxt are today.  Why don't you all give the OP time to post more information as it's available but I think the announcement is a bit earlier and he's definitely not prepared for these trolls.

[tantanbit]

眼红msc而已，这方面，msc是原创。 跟着是bts，再然后nxt也来了·······人傻钱多速来。··msc is open souce ,just copy it after  msc wallte released

[STT]

It will have to be renamed, no retailer will actually be able to say they accept it without being sued

[ZeroTheGreat]

What do people mean, when they say "reserved"? What are they "reserving"?

Future profits 

[MsCollec]

What do people mean, when they say "reserved"? What are they "reserving"?

Future profits 

Yes they coming back lol

[buddynuno]

Ok, I dont know if anyone noticed but this Visacoin aswell Skycoin follow the same padrons of NXT and if they throw alot of projects at the same time and dont put their effort in one solid project, most likely these are scams! Beware...

[greyw00lf]

Such visa 
Waiting for mastercard 

made me laugh

[yorich]

It will have to be renamed, no retailer will actually be able to say they accept it without being sued

they have no relevance

Yeah good luck with that.  Visa gets a hold of this, you're in for it.  I know because I had something similar happen, I got a cease and decist letter from Macy's once because an Android app I worked on had a tiny graphic in it for a Macy's credit card, and the lawyer statement said "Macy's customers may confuse this for being a macy's product".   Trust me you'll get Visa all over you for this.

[other_side]

What programming language do you plan to use?
Do you have hosting for your website?

[markm]

It will have to be renamed, no retailer will actually be able to say they accept it without being sued

they have no relevance

Yeah good luck with that.  Visa gets a hold of this, you're in for it.  I know because I had something similar happen, I got a cease and decist letter from Macy's once because an Android app I worked on had a tiny graphic in it for a Macy's credit card, and the lawyer statement said "Macy's customers may confuse this for being a macy's product".   Trust me you'll get Visa all over you for this.

They probably bet on that not happening until after they already got donations, which are what they are actually after anyway, so why would they care that after they take the donations and vanish no one will be able to salvage anything from the mess due to the trademark problems?

Its not as if there is anything to salvage anyway, except the donations, and likely the only way to salvage them is not to send them in the first place.

-MarkM-

[black_swan]

ROFL
You think you can use Visa on your name
You think that there are people willing to donate
Your engrish is vary bad
No comment
Also, this doesn't require an answer

[MsCollec]

ROFL
You think you can use Visa on your name
You think that there are people willing to donate
Your engrish is vary bad
No comment
Also, this doesn't require an answer

I see where Harvard got you 

[r3wt]

it would have been funny if Visacoin was based on Doge, but now we know its just a NXT clone, which is a lame scam anyway.

[MsCollec]

If anyone is interested in using my signature

Code:

[color=red][size=5]The search for the next hot [b]COIN[/b] is over, Get involved today ! [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.0/]Visacoin[VSC][/url][/size][/color]

[dE_logics]

Looks like people LOVE to send BTC to complete strangers in return of a coin with no value at all.

Someday even I'll start one of these and DUPE investors.

[dewdeded]

- tl;dr
- What do I get for sending OP money?

[superresistant]

ROFL
You think you can use Visa on your name
You think that there are people willing to donate
Your engrish is vary bad
No comment
Also, this doesn't require an answer

Also, 90% of comments here are from OP's sockpuppets.
It is a copy of NXT but there is no devs for this coin. It is hard to believe that the client is going to work with no one to fix it.

Maybe I'm wrong but I would not take the risk when you can simply invest in innovative and serious coins like Next and eMunie.

If you plan to invest, please have a look at all possibilities. Here is a list of some Innovative Alternative Crypto Currencies with some links and explanations.

[nocoin]

- tl;dr
- What do I get for sending OP money?

Promises.

[MsCollec]

- tl;dr
- What do I get for sending OP money?

Promises.

@dewdeded check out the spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing,  you can see that contribution is rolling in already.  Most of these trolls are still gonna invest anyways they just like to slander any new coins. From my understanding you get 1000 VSC for 1 BTC.  
I believe VSC has the potential to be among eMu, MSC and Nxt. So only time will tell.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Send any amount of BTC to 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb（By the Visacoin foundation management）.(Do not forget to pm me),this will affect how much vsc will you get.
https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Could I pay with NXT? I don't use BTC anymore...

[markm]

- tl;dr
- What do I get for sending OP money?

Promises.

@dewdeded check out the spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing,  you can see that contribution is rolling in already.  Most of these trolls are still gonna invest anyways they just like to slander any new coins. From my understanding you get 1000 VSC for 1 BTC.  
I believe VSC has the potential to be among eMu, MSC and Nxt. So only time will tell.

So in other words you get to be ripped off in company with others instead of ripped off all alone?

(What else does the fact some suckers or sockpuppets sent money mean?)

-MarkM-

[MsCollec]

MarkM,
It's good that you realized that I'm not associated with the coin,  I'm just passionate about the project and over and over the scare tactics used by some of you are proven  to be false just to scare off potential investors while you have majority of the coins .  I can list all the coins that I didn't got into the initial launch due to the fact that it was called a scam coins and months later it's already on coinmarketcap.com.  Invest wisely and importantly follow your heart and let others do same. If I get burnt it's part of life experiences.
Cheers

[markm]

He hasn't shown a damn thing yet.

At least with Mastercoin the guy was here a few years discussing and developing the ideas, he went to conferences and discussed them with people there and so on and so on before eventually, when no one else took the ideas and built with them, he ended up having to do it himself.

With NXT there is actual code actually running.

This thing is pre-order vapourware. Unlike Butterfly Labs though he doesn't even have a history here of delivering on projects in the past.

Sending money just encourages more such scams to proliferate.

Plus the whole trademark problem being dismissed as not a problem makes it pretty obvious he she or it will be long gone long before that becomes an issue.

Obviously it is all about cheating people out of money, that is why nothing is any worry or concern at all so long as people send money.

-MarkM-

[thisisnotmyltcusername]

If anyone is interested in using my signature

Code:

[color=red][size=5]The search for the next hot [b]COIN[/b] is over, Get involved today ! [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.0/]Visacoin[VSC][/url][/size][/color]

I may adapt it a bit...
The search for the next Hyip scam COIN is over, Get RAPED today !

[r3wt]

Plus the whole trademark problem being dismissed as not a problem makes it pretty obvious he she or it will be long gone long before that becomes an issue.


Obviously it is all about cheating people out of money, that is why nothing is any worry or concern at all so long as people send money.

[wiseye]

The total number of coins is not good if less 10m.
The recommended total coins between 10m-1b.
The total number of coins should be fixed, prorated based on the total number of Financing.

[superresistant]

Plus the whole trademark problem being dismissed as not a problem makes it pretty obvious he she or it will be long gone long before that becomes an issue.
Obviously it is all about cheating people out of money, that is why nothing is any worry or concern at all so long as people send money.

I'm glad you can spot a true scam r3wt.
Now compare with NXT, you'll see the difference.

[junsha]

@Visacoin， could you please identify yourself?
Since you are taking money from the community and are doing fundraiser the MSC way, J.R. identified himself and showed his qulification.
Where are you from? your qulificaton? and so on.. please?

[Come-from-Beyond]

@Visacoin， could you please identify yourself?
Since you are taking money from the community and are doing fundraiser the MSC way, J.R. identified himself and showed his qulification.
Where are you from? your qulificaton? and so on.. please?

He is Satoshi. Isn't that enough?

[mcjavar]

@Visacoin， could you please identify yourself?
Since you are taking money from the community and are doing fundraiser the MSC way, J.R. identified himself and showed his qulification.
Where are you from? your qulificaton? and so on.. please?

He is Satoshi. Isn't that enough?

Satoshi gave up Nxt?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Satoshi gave up Nxt?

He launched Bitcoin, then Nxt and now moved to other coin.

[markm]

NXT is too mundane because it uses Java, this is far superior technology, completely devoid of code; a technology so advanced it is indistinguishable from vapourware.

-MarkM-

[Come-from-Beyond]

this is far superior technology, completely devoid of code; a technology so advanced it is indistinguishable from vapourware.

[hastalavista]

Satoshi gave up Nxt?

He launched Bitcoin, then Nxt and now moved to other coin.

to what other coin?

[Come-from-Beyond]

to what other coin?

Try to guess?

[hastalavista]

hmm...

i guess he moved to... IhavenoideawhatimdoingCoin

[MsCollec]

Satoshi gave up Nxt?

He launched Bitcoin, then Nxt and now moved to other coin.

to what other coin?

to what other coin?

Try to guess?

hmm...

i guess he moved to... IhavenoideawhatimdoingCoin

I'm loving this comedy show contrary to your scam jokes,contributions keeps rising up with the fact that 16.1944BTC has being contributed within only two days

[MsCollec]

Wrong info, it's 18.1444 BTC now

[markm]

Oh good you won't need any money from anyone here then since your sockpuppets are being so generous.

-MarkM-

[MsCollec]

Oh good you won't need any money from anyone here then since your sockpuppets are being so generous.

-MarkM-

Hey MarkM,
I cant see your name is the spreadsheet, did you contributed with your other account

[markm]

No I am not one of the sockpuppets, sorry.

-MarkM-

[hastalavista]

i did not make scam jokes...


but i really want to know to what coin satoshi moved on to and why you assume you know it ... who ever

[MsCollec]

-MarkM-
well it's still a long way to 90days before the funding deadline. let me know when you change your mind before 500-800BTC raised.

I'm interested in renting your signature space for VSC coin?Whats your offer

[Coinsy]

i did not make scam jokes...


but i really want to know to what coin satoshi moved on to and why you assume you know it ... who ever

He was joking. Satoshi did not "move on" to another coin.

[Tera-Hash]

http://oi42.tinypic.com/346ozkn.jpg

[MsCollec]

I love the color combo! Goodluck

[Tera-Hash]

http://oi42.tinypic.com/346ozkn.jpg

I love the color combo! Goodluck

Thanks! i can modificate it too if you have better ideas or something, i'm web designer/programmer too so i'm available.

[northranger79510]

Why is there a need to collect bitcoins over a course of 3 months. I am sure 50 btc is sufficient to create an excellent coin and we are already at around 16 btc. 3 months seems like a very long time to collect investments.

[instacalm]

Why is there a need to collect bitcoins over a course of 3 months. I am sure 50 btc is sufficient to create an excellent coin and we are already at around 16 btc. 3 months seems like a very long time to collect investments.

on top of that the altcoin world will have undergone major changes within these 3 months. this thread can't be taken seriously...

[MsCollec]

I already discussed this with @ visacoin.  1 month  of funding is okay, hopefully he will listen

[northranger79510]

I already discussed this with @ visacoin.  1 month  of funding is okay, hopefully he will listen

One month is good. I propose the due date to be January 25th, a month from when Visacoin opened to fundings.

[MsCollec]

I already discussed this with @ visacoin.  1 month  of funding is okay, hopefully he will listen

One month is good. I propose the due date to be January 25th, a month from when Visacoin opened to fundings.

Supported 

[Coinsy]

I sent this to Visacoin, but I've corrected the OP for grammatical issues. Hopefully this will help newcomers to better understand the Visacoin project.


____________________________________________


Why do we need Visacoin?

Most of the time a dollar is in your wallet in the morning and in the afternoon it’s in the Starbuck’s register. We rarely keep the same dollars in our pocket for more than days at a time, no matter how rich or poor we might be. Why? My experience in the bank industry has taught me if there is no circulation, the dollar is just a piece of paper. Conversely, if that same dollar circulates, its value will be doubled. Take a look at your BTC, how long have you kept your bitcoin in your personal wallets? From the moment you get them, they often do not move outside of the confines of your wallet addresses.

There are many reasons for that but one of them are that BTC wallets are very inconvenient to use:

• They are 8G or more
  
• We have to wait for confirmation that amounts to 10 minutes of our time or more
  
• You cannot use them for every purchase you’d like to make (You’re starving but cannot use your BTC to buy a hamburger at a specific burger joint)
  

.
There are many problems with BTC preventing it from widespread use. BTC in a lot of ways is gold, and we don’t directly use gold as trade for goods and services. It’s not practical. We don’t walk into KFC offering a unit of gold in exchange for a bucket of chicken. BTC is the same way. For a digital currency to function in everyday commerce a coin must be easy to use, easy to carry, lightweight, and without copious amounts of data. Visacoin is that answer.
      
What is Visacoin?

Visacoin is a convenient, safe and reliable method of payment.
How? If you have a deep knowledge of BTC, you know BTC is actually a book -- recording the data source and destination. Visacoin only selects what’s useful to us in the Blockchain. Visacoin is not trying to create an entirely new blockchain like every other cryptocurrency. Instead, it is trying to make the existing BTC blockchain more efficient. Visacoin’s only purpose is to achieve the format necessary for a simple and easy BTC transaction with the use of a card or smartphone. Buy what you want with no waiting, no matter when, no matter where.

How can we get Visacoin?

As mentioned above, Visacoin is not creating its own blockchain, but is selecting from the BTC blockchain. This can accelerate the process of our transaction. Thusly, Visacoin is another form of BTC.

Given this feature we don't have to develop a coin and waste everyone's time on mining. So we are using crowdfunding, similar to the way MSC has.

If you want to get VSC do the following:

1. Deadline: 3 months (90 days) 2014.3.31 will be the final day of the crowdfund. The earlier join in this project the more benefits you get (later I will detail what those are).
2. Limit: In the design, we don't stipulate a minimum and maximum limit. You can send 1mbtc, or1000btc. You choose.
3. Method: Send any amount of BTC to 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb By the Visacoin foundation management）.(Do not forget to pm me),this will affect how much VSC will you get.
https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

How much Visacoin can we get?

Depends on the following three factors:
A: Total BTC of project received.
B: How much BTC you sent.
C: When you send it during the project period (The first month in can get extra rewards).

Extra rewards:

In order to encourage everyone to actively participate in the project, I own part of the BTC as a reward. The first person who sends more than 1 BTC will get the same number of BTC as a reward. The first month in can get extra 1.1X, the second month 1.05X.



DO YOU WANT TO WORK FOR VISACOIN?

We have a ton of work to do. You can help, and get paid for your work!

We have:
1. Working to build wallets and independent software projects.
2. Writing specs for various features.
3. A PR company.
4. Project Management
5. Hiring

And many more…
    To find a project,  Please apply by emailing vsccoins@gamil.com .

　　　We also need to set up a foundation to manage the daily affairs. Including but not limited to the following content:
　　　1）Release the latest progress of the project,
　　　2）Supervise the use of money
　　　3）Solve technical problems
　　　4）To solve the public doubt
　　　Etc.
　　　If you are an honest man（It is more important than any other requirements），and have the time and the ability to management the team,
You can contact me by email（vsccoins@gamil.com）,

Now I need at least three people to help me finish prophase works.

Github:https://github.com/visacoin/vsc

Medium and long-term plan will be released.

Blockchain：https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google：https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

  
VSC Logo Design Contest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0
website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

I didn't realize that a project will have so many questions on the first day,I all day in response to the question,Really frustrating!!!

New Progress

Short-term plans:
1) Designing a logo of vsc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0

2) Build a formal website
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

3)Finished whitepaper
Is writing

Medium-term plan:
1）Set up a Foundation
In different countries and regions
2）Recruitment software developers
((Wallet For Windows.luinx and Mac os.released sourcecodes))
3）Develop an API(for iPhone and android)

In this Step,
development the main functions of vsc:
Secured transactions
Credit facility
Automatic transfers between accounts
Foreign Currency Exchange
Electronic money
more:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385739.0


Some notes:


1）This project has only just begun. There is a lot of work to be done，As such, I have given up my Christmas holidays for this project. Many people want to see the fruits immediately， They want to want to wake up tomorrow and be a millionaire，. We need hard work to achieve that. It will not be done overnight.
2）This project is like a baby. There are many aspects that need to improve，. There may be all kinds of problems， but we cannot deny the viability of Visacoin if flaws arise. And they will.
3）I'm tired of responding to a variety of suspicions on the project ，so，I will only answer questions about technical issues. If you do not believe, that is fine, but please leave the discussion so that constructive communication can thrive. This project is open source.，
4) I must remind： everyone that any project has the possibility of failure， including this one. MSC’s plight has confirmed this， . I'd rather you see it as an attempt, a kind of opportunity which can change the BTC world. If it fails, I will lose all of my worth in BTC, so I will try my best to make it successful.

I will always publish any new progress I make on the Visacoin project.

Thanks to those who have encouraged me!!

[MsCollec]

Congrats  Tera-Hash

[datguyian]

Well done,I'll pay you 100vsc as a reward

IMO simpler and safer should be changed to simple and safe. It should not be assumed in the logo that it is being compared to alternate currencies/payment systems.

Edit: that being said, I like the logo.

[btc24]

 I'm supersuspicios here... Looks like the most scammy scam.I hope it's not.

[plasm]

It seems very good,and the progress is beyond my imagination!

[markm]

Visacoin’s only purpose is to achieve the format necessary for a simple and easy BTC transaction with the use of a card or smartphone. Buy what you want with no waiting, no matter when, no matter where.

So now you are just a bitcoin-app-for-smartphones with associated cards? Not an alternative coin afterall, the coin you will be sending and receiving and using and so on is actually bitcoin?

-MarkM-

[Financisto]

1st) Raising funds before showing any white paper?

2nd) No further discussion about that project at any other thread?

3rd) Is OP a newbie?

I have a bad feeling about it...

[relm9]

It's funny people are comparing this to MSC and NXT. Do your research, both of those were much more solid than this, albeit still risky. I won't bother pointing out all the red flags, but the OP hasn't shared any real technical details and his writing comes across as very vague. Plus creating things like an empty github to make it seem more legit to people that might not know any better. This has scam written all over it...

[Ardolafat]

It's funny people are comparing this to MSC and NXT. Do your research, both of those were much more solid than this, albeit still risky. I won't bother pointing out all the red flags, but the OP hasn't shared any real technical details and his writing comes across as very vague. Plus creating things like an empty github to make it seem more legit to people that might not know any better. This has scam written all over it...

Agree, hard to believe that someone is investing in this scam

[markm]

It's funny people are comparing this to MSC and NXT. Do your research, both of those were much more solid than this, albeit still risky. I won't bother pointing out all the red flags, but the OP hasn't shared any real technical details and his writing comes across as very vague. Plus creating things like an empty github to make it seem more legit to people that might not know any better. This has scam written all over it...

Agree, hard to believe that someone is investing in this scam

Why would you believe it? Have they stolen any identities yet or is it just sockpuppets so far or even just anyonymous bitcoin-balances?

There are suckers all over through so really that is all they need, until all the suckers run out of money and new suckers stop being born they likely camke good money running scams like this all over the internet. This might be far from the only such scam they have running.

Here is a potentially useful link: http://bitcoinism.blogspot.ca/2013/12/lex-cryptographia.html

-MarkM-

[datguyian]

It's funny people are comparing this to MSC and NXT. Do your research, both of those were much more solid than this, albeit still risky. I won't bother pointing out all the red flags, but the OP hasn't shared any real technical details and his writing comes across as very vague. Plus creating things like an empty github to make it seem more legit to people that might not know any better. This has scam written all over it...

Agree, hard to believe that someone is investing in this scam

Why would you believe it? Have they stolen any identities yet or is it just sockpuppets so far or even just anyonymous bitcoin-balances?

There are suckers all over through so really that is all they need, until all the suckers run out of money and new suckers stop being born they likely camke good money running scams like this all over the internet. This might be far from the only such scam they have running.

Here is a potentially useful link: http://bitcoinism.blogspot.ca/2013/12/lex-cryptographia.html

-MarkM-

People are either:

A) willing to take the risk and can afford it
B) actually know this visa coin guy and what he is capable of
C) dare devils


My moderate .25 btc investment was based on the fact that I could afford to lose that particular amount of money without becoming homicidal... and I'm genuinely interested to see if OP can deliver on his promise. I fully acknowledge that the .25 could be a total loss to a scam, but hell... Most of my money I've invested in crypto currencies was based on that same argument. And I've been doing well so far, so let's see what happens here. Tbh I have not seen any evidence that this project will succeed, but I also haven't seen any evidence that it will fail. So time will tell.

I should also mention that I would have been willing to invest a whole lot more with a decent whitepaper and evidence of how this project could or will succeed.... Pay attention to this OP... Scam or not, the more you can prove how success of this project will happen, the more funds you will raise/steal.

[wizzardTim]

Well done,I'll pay you 100vsc as a reward

IMO simpler and safer should be changed to simple and safe. It should not be assumed in the logo that it is being compared to alternate currencies/payment systems.

Edit: that being said, I like the logo.

Yes, i think that your proposal is good

[dzarmush]

My guess is that topic starter has a simple plan:

1. fund some money
2. wait for nxt and e-munie code are realeased
3. find a programmer
4. pay him and make a clone

It explains pretty much everything. He can't share any details because he has no idea yet.

Other good explanation that it's just a scam. It explains even more. Including why he doesn't care about stealing Visa trademark. Just because he has no plans to launch the coin.

[wizzardTim]

@VisaCoin: please see the pm. Thank you very much and sorry for the inconvenience

[nocoin]

My guess is that topic starter has a simple plan:

1. fund some money
2. wait for nxt and e-munie code are realeased
3. find a programmer
4. pay him and make a clone

It explains pretty much everything. He can't share any details because he has no idea yet.

Other good explanation that it's just a scam. It explains even more. Including why he doesn't care about stealing Visa trademark. Just because he has no plans to launch the coin.

I think it's even simpler:
1. fund some money
2. disappear

[leewilson]

Well done,I'll pay you 100vsc as a reward

IMO simpler and safer should be changed to simple and safe. It should not be assumed in the logo that it is being compared to alternate currencies/payment systems.

Edit: that being said, I like the logo.

+1 along with eliminating convenient, which is redundant to simple so "simple safe" or if you want 3 words exchange convenient with easy "simple safe easy".  Or maybe just "simple" or "easy" bc using the word safe highlights the potential that it might not be.

[leewilson]

Shouldn't it be @gmail.com instead of gmil.com?

gmil.com = gamil.com

This is the first thing I noticed when reading the OP.  Unless you are affiliated with gamil.com (a design firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina, USA since at least 1995) but I highly doubt it.
You also cut and pasted the same address into your webpage forum post.

How much traffic and potential investors did you lose because of this alone? You obviously didn't care to read thecoinjournal's post or you would have changed your contact information?
Maybe you will read mine.  
In either event, thecoinjournal and myself will gladly accept bitcoins for helping you gain many more investors and adopters than you ever would have without this change.

And it is in fact the only mention of this at all out of 9 pages of posts by the whole community..wow.

Great concept if you can pull it off, but how could you convince anyone that you can if you can not even get your contact information correct and then cut and paste it in another topic as well?
I do not even want to imagine any attempt at coding.

Edit: Apparently you edited your op to the correct email within the last 4 hours, but it was still about 3.5 days after it was originally pointed out to you.
Good luck

[MsCollec]

It would be nice if the poster would come and clarify some of these questions.

[Tera-Hash]

Thanks for everyone for support my logo, i accept read the suggestions so i made some changes.

http://oi40.tinypic.com/5czzwx.jpg

Hope you like it!

[GBattaglia]

I like that the OP just posts what would make the BTC network great, and not any technicals on how to accomplish it.

[btc1210]

Going to be seeing a lot of these scams in the near future.

Stay away from coins that are extremely vague and require you to buy right from the developer

[wizzardTim]

Is there any chance to limit the period to one month?

[chovy]

as soon as Visa gets wind of this, it will be all over.

[salsacz]

I think this is a trolling satoshi who smoked too much weed

[salsacz]

But if he provides a whitepaper that won't be burned by the drugs, why not..

[btminer]

mark yixia

[wizzardTim]

Please stop calling this a scam. NXT seemed like a scam too. Do not invest if you do not believe in this.

[mcjavar]

Op got lost in the matrix?

[markm]

Maybe 0.25 bitcoins was enough, or maybe the person who claims to have sent 0.25 was not the only victim and however much of the coins were not the OP sending to itself was enough.

Given the easy acceptance of totally obvious scams it might be more lucrative to just keep spawning new ones than to waste any time or effort trying to make any of them look at all believable.

-MarkM-

[slavo]

without your CV, personnal info, written white paper; It is to be considered as a scam.

If you want to fight against msc and nxt you have to think more about the coin repartition; it is where they fail.

PTS try something smarter; but with memorycoin coming i'm not sure of what they are doing.

U definitly should think of a stake-through-hashrate like pts; + another way to distribute coin more equally for new comers at IPO.

Is this coin going to be java too ?

Just answer before taking coins. I'll be pleased to join the team if I can do some good work; giving ideas; making some PR; but like eveyone with a brain, I need more infos.

visacoin; u can pm me and reach me on skype @exilepoker.

Cheers.

[pinarello]

Can I sent you NXT do you accept?

Pin

[plex_brahial]

I dont think that calling this coin visa coin was really smart to be honest!
You should go and check the copyright terms on that name!

[harveyweizhao]

One of my friends has few questions about this project. But he can not replay this post, hence I help post his words as follows:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Are the author from an English speaking country? My answer is NO! Just see below two sentences in the thread, you will find it.
a)About me:
I'mnotSatoshiNakamotohedoesnotexistsoamI - The English native speaker should say ' Neither do I' but ' So do I'
b)'It will makes vsc a really easy-to-use.' , you can find out the grammar error easily here - 'will makes'!!!

2. Why end up the IPO so hurry even if no whitepaper come out?

3. The author's position is just a Jr. Member, how can we trust a Jr. Member?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Bit510]

Visacoin:Born for circulation

-Method of payment and Circulation based on BTC-Gold

Using VSC,Simple like using your Visa

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af40/vsccoins/visacoin_zpsb4388c39.jpg

2013.12.29 Important update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389958.0

VSC  IPO,Take off now ! ! !                                                                   Amount:21.0602BTC Has Received

Blockchain: https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

Remind:Do not forget to pm me

Why do we need Visacoin?

Most of the time a dollar is in your wallet in the morning and in the afternoon it’s in the Starbuck’s register. We rarely keep the same dollars in our pocket for more than days at a time, no matter how rich or poor we might be. My experience in the bank industry has taught me if there is no circulation, the dollar is just a piece of paper. Conversely, if that same dollar circulates, its value will be doubled. Take a look at your BTC, how long have you kept your bitcoin in your personal wallets? From the moment you get them, they often do not move outside of the confines of your wallet addresses.

There are many reasons for that but one of them are that BTC wallets are very inconvenient to use:
-   They are 8G or more
-   We have to wait for confirmation that amounts to 10 minutes of our time or more
-   You cannot use them for every purchase you’d like to make (You’re starving but cannot use your BTC to buy a hamburger at a specific burger joint)

There are many problems with BTC preventing it from widespread use. BTC in a lot of ways is gold, and we don’t directly use gold as trade for goods and services. It’s not practical. We don’t walk into KFC offering a unit of gold in exchange for a bucket of chicken. BTC is the same way. For a digital currency to function in everyday commerce a coin must be easy to use, easy to carry, lightweight, and without copious amounts of data. Visacoin is that answer.
      
What is Visacoin?

Visacoin is a convenient, safe and reliable method of payment.
How? If you have a deep knowledge of BTC, you know BTC is actually a book -- recording the data source and destination. Visacoin only selects what’s useful to us in the Blockchain. Visacoin is not trying to create an entirely new blockchain like every other cryptocurrency. Instead, it is trying to make the existing BTC blockchain more efficient. Visacoin’s only purpose is to achieve the format necessary for a simple and easy BTC transaction with the use of a card or smartphone. Buy what you want with no waiting, no matter when, no matter where.

How can we get Visacoin?

As mentioned above, Visacoin is not creating its own blockchain, but is selecting from the BTC blockchain. This can accelerate the process of our transaction. Thusly, Visacoin is another form of BTC.

Given this feature we don't have to develop a coin and waste everyone's time on mining. So we are using crowdfunding, similar to the way MSC has.

If you want to get VSC do the following:

1. Deadline: 3 months (90 days) 2014.3.31 will be the final day of the crowdfund. The earlier join in this project the more benefits you get (later I will detail what those are).
2. Limit: In the design, we don't stipulate a minimum and maximum limit. You can send 1mbtc, or1000btc. You choose.
3. Method: Send any amount of BTC to 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb By the Visacoin foundation management）.(Do not forget to pm me),this will affect how much VSC will you get.
https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

How much Visacoin can we get
Depends on the following three factors:
A: Total BTC of project received.
B: How much BTC you sent.
C: When you send it during the project period (The first month in can get extra rewards).

Extra rewards:

In order to encourage everyone to actively participate in the project, I own part of the BTC as a reward. The first person who sends more than 1 BTC will get the same number of BTC as a reward. The first month in can get extra 1.1X, the second month 1.05X.

DO YOU WANT TO WORK FOR VISACOIN?

We have a ton of work to do. You can help, and get paid for your work!

We have:
1. Working to build wallets and independent software projects.
2. Writing specs for various features.
3. A PR company.
4. Project Management
5. Hiring

And many more…
    To find a project,  Please apply by emailing  vsccoins@gmail.com.

　　　We also need to set up a foundation to manage the daily affairs. Including but not limited to the following content:
　　　1）Release the latest progress of the project,
　　　2）Supervise the use of money
　　　3）Solve technical problems
　　　4）To solve the public doubt
　　　Etc.
　　　If you are an honest man（It is more important than any other requirements），and have the time and the ability to management the team,
You can contact me by email（vsccoins@gmail.com）,

Now I need at least three people to help me finish prophase works.

Github:https://github.com/visacoin/vsc

Medium and long-term plan will be released.

Blockchain：https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google：https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

  
VSC Logo Design Contest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0
website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

I didn't realize that a project will have so many questions on the first day,I all day in response to the question,Really frustrating!!!

New Progress
Short-term plans:
1) Designing a logo of vsc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0

2) Build a formal website
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

3)Finished whitepaper
Is writing

Medium-term plan:
1）Set up a Foundation
In different countries and regions
2）Recruitment software developers
((Wallet For Windows.luinx and Mac os.released sourcecodes))
3）Develop an API(for iPhone and android)

In this Step,
development the main functions of vsc:
Secured transactions
Credit facility
Automatic transfers between accounts
Foreign Currency Exchange
Electronic money
more:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385739.0


Some notes:
1）This project has only just begun. Lots of work waiting to be done，I have gave up my Christmas holidays
Many people want to see the fruits immediately， They want to want to wake up tomorrow and be a millionaire，. We need hard work to achieve that.
2）This project is like a baby. There are many aspects that need to improve，. There may be all kinds of problems， but we cannot deny the viability of Visacoin because of flaws that might arise.
3）I'm tired of responding to a variety of suspicions on the project ，so，I will only answer questions about technical issues. If you do not believe, that is fine but please leave. This project is open source.，
4) I must remind： everyone that any project has the possibility of failure， including this one, mscs plight has confirmed this， I'd rather you see it as an attempt ,a kind of opportunity which  can change the BTCworld. If it fails, I would lose all my btc, so I will try my best to make it successful.

I will always publish any new progress I make.

Thanks to those who have encouraged me!!

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!!!

Let's see what our kind friend found about the thread, it was found by one of my friend but me.

The Visacoin author published the thread
Name:   Visacoin
Posts:   40
Activity:   14
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 24, 2013, 05:29:22 PM

The author was trying to find some one to translate the thread
Local / 山寨币 / 第二代比特币Visacoin的发布，以BTC作为酬劳的翻译任务    on: December 25, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
Visacoin is a  new currency is being developed，based on BTC-Gold

The project  purpose is to use  btc easier，like use your Visa card

文章在这：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.0

翻译中文并在这个板块发布

最好的你得到0.12BTC or100vsc


Name:   Tera-Hash
Posts:   19
Activity:   19
Position:   Member
Date Registered:   December 21, 2013, 05:07:19 PM
Last Active:   Today at 01:18:43 AM



Name:   cmj007cmj
Posts:   14
Activity:   14
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 12, 2013, 11:03:18 PM
Last Active:   Today at 09:28:36 AM

The author(maybe same person as Visacoin) ilan translated the thread, but he/she did not get the 0.12BTC bounties at address 17SXR6xpCRcxUCgSMf52BFjdUpxTAxQdYm.
Name:   ilan【中文翻译者，17SXR6xpCRcxUCgSMf52BFjdUpxTAxQdYm，这个地址没有得到visacoin的许诺的0.12BTC翻译费】
Posts:   7
Activity:   7
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 19, 2013, 08:26:22 AM
Last Active:   December 27, 2013, 11:20:40 AM
ilan在这里表露了做山寨的意思：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=380617.msg4086593#msg4086593

Pretended to translate the thread.
Name:   Ribuce.J【假装翻译：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384551.msg4137324#msg4137324】
Posts:   3
Activity:   3
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 25, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
Last Active:   December 26, 2013, 06:44:52 AM


See above evidence and find out the truth.

About me - From Mars. Fighting for truth forever.

[MsCollec]

One of my friends has few questions about this project. But he can not replay this post, hence I help post his words as follows:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Are the author from an English speaking country? My answer is NO! Just see below two sentences in the thread, you will find it.
a)About me:
I'mnotSatoshiNakamotohedoesnotexistsoamI - The English native speaker should say ' Neither do I' but ' So do I'
b)'It will makes vsc a really easy-to-use.' , you can find out the grammar error easily here - 'will makes'!!!

2. Why end up the IPO so hurry even if no whitepaper come out?

3. The author's position is just a Jr. Member, how can we trust a Jr. Member?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1)The OP might be French

2) The IPO ending early is good because BTC price is volatile, lot of people will not want to lock down their investment for three months.

3) I have seen developer releasing coins under their new coin flagship account. We all started from newbie status.

[MsCollec]

The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

[junsha]

@Visacoin， could you please identify yourself?
Since you are taking money from the community and are doing fundraiser the MSC way, J.R. identified himself and showed his qulification.
Where are you from? your qulificaton? and so on.. please?

Re-post in case the OP didn't see it.

[Bit510]

The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?

[sixteendigits]

Rename it, rename it, rename it, for god sake's rename it!  I am not exactly sure what your end game with this coin is (if you are not a scammer and actually have an endgame beyond steal as much BTC as possible in the next 3 months) but if it ever involves this coin being used as payment to online businesses, NO ONE will accept it because they will have VISA, ya know, as in VISA CARD up their ass.  Seriously, do you think Apple would ever allow a Visacoin app in the app store?  Welp, ya just shut out ipad and iphone users from your potential userbase over a silly name you were too stubborn to change.  Even if there was the slightest possibility of the name causing an issue in the future, why invite that potential complication in the future?  

And really it is just a shit marketing move in the first place.  We all know about VISA cards, they are used by millions across the world everyday for years now.  Give it a name that sparks the interest of the general population, let's them know this is something new they have never seen before.  When someone hears the word "bitcoin" for the first time, invariably their response is "what's that?".  It is new, it is fresh, it gets them interested.  If I heard "visacoin" for the first time outside this forum, I'd assume it was some dopey marketing ploy by VISA to get me to give them more money and not even bother finding out what it was.

Seriously, name change, white paper, and I'll flick some BTC towards this thing and see what happens.

[Bit510]

Visacoin and MsCollec should be the same person. What do you think?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386712.msg4162941#msg4162941

[MsCollec]

The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?

No

[MsCollec]

Visacoin and MsCollec should be the same person. What do you think?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386712.msg4162941#msg4162941

Hahahaha   i think you are Satoshi Nakamoto
I'm just an early adaptor who saw the potential in VSC  and actively promoting it

[Bit510]

The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?

No

Why  can you answer the 3 questions for Visacoin? Why do you know what Visacoin think?

[MsCollec]

The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?

No

Why  can you answer the 3 questions for Visacoin? Why do you know what Visacoin think?

Are you a learner?  Can't you find the answer to your 3 questions in the posts.  You just jump on the bandwagon without researching. Look at the spreadsheet he listed French as his language.

[MsCollec]

The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?

No

懒得跟你说英语。别想骗天朝的， 忽悠老外，不反对不支持。

So you are not retarded, you just pretending to be lazy

[Bit510]

The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?

No

Why  can you answer the 3 questions for Visacoin? Why do you know what Visacoin think?

Are you a learner?  Can't you find the answer to your 3 questions in the posts.  You just jump on the bandwagon without researching. Look at the spreadsheet he listed French as his language.

So you left your email as 'mscollec@hotmail.ca', anyone know what the 'hotmail.ca' is? Hopefully you mistyped it, hopefully Visacoin mistyped his/her language.

[MsCollec]

The scam accusations are getting ridiculous every second from trolls, Visacoin should close the IPO immediately and concentrate fully on the coin development and brand awareness. Additional funding can be raised from the people that already invested in initial IPO.

Are you one of the developer of the VSC?

No

Why  can you answer the 3 questions for Visacoin? Why do you know what Visacoin think?


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Are you a learner?  Can't you find the answer to your 3 questions in the posts.  You just jump on the bandwagon without researching. Look at the spreadsheet he listed French as his language.

So you left your email as 'mscollec@hotmail.ca', anyone know what the 'hotmail.ca' is? Hopefully you mistyped it, hopefully Visacoin mistyped his/her language.

Hotmail .Ca= Canada

[GigaCoin]

my main concern is the name and branding, have you thought about copyright issues? If this is a long term project don't you think this will cause conflict with Visa ? Visa one of the largest and most powerful payment institutions on the planet. they will surely come after you at some point when you go mainstream.

you're using their name and even your logo has the blue/orange colors in it.

Can you please clarify this, i'm interested in this project but the name is a big concern.

[nastybit]

So, after NXT got some popularity, albeit based on promises, this scam coin is trying to do the same.
21 BTC (such a coincidence!) "donated" ROFL
Get a life, and a real job perhaps

[btcgoods]

Had 1 BTC lying around so sent it over, emailing now. Please confirm that you have recieved here. Transaction ID 164376d3f05349a6f2c5d0214a262845ac713d68d3caf939114e974edb748f73 .

[cryptoirc]

One minute silence for our brothers and sisters who fell for this scam.

[bitcoinpaul]

...

[btcgoods]

lol risked what I was willing to loose.. Moment of silence for myself.... I'll keep you posted if VSC gets back to me.

[ninjaboon]

One minute silence for our brothers and sisters who fell for this scam.

why is it a scam?

[opticalcarrier]

hahhaa i wonder if anyone in this thread has gotten confirmation from any of the BTC that has been funded so far?  Anyone in this thread hear back from the OP yet?  Or has it all the funds been donated from people outside this thread?

good grief.

[dzarmush]

Well, there is no reason for shorten an ipo time for scammer, that's for sure.

[bybitcoin]

Isn't Visacoin a guy from Eastern Europe with magic skills in C++?
You know of whom I am speaking, don't you?
Good luck!

[verdun2003]

Project sounds good as it really changes the game for instant payments! Can you please provide a timeframe for the different tasks you've set up and an estimated release date for the coin? It seems there's quite a lot in your shoulders and you are already on a job, therefore making me think it won't be released before some time.

Cheers

[Coinsy]

One minute silence for our brothers and sisters who fell for this scam.

I was nervous at first that it was a scam but since I've invested everything has been going great, so far. Immediate response from dev after I sent in my donation, consistent follow through on all promises, and have been receiving email updates from the dev in addition to the new update thread. All this in the last few days. That's not to say everything is perfect but I like the energy behind the project right now and I'm sick of kicking myself for not getting involved in the adoption phase of cryptocurrencies that have gotten big. Worth a small risk in my eyes!

[opticalcarrier]

ok then so is there anyone here who has sent BTC but hasnt heard back yet?

[black_swan]

Is this scam still going on? ahahha
Man it can't be that there are some people willing to lose money so easily
I start to don't blame scammers anymore

[wiseye]

Sustained attention to this topic.
Hopes to accelerate progress after New Year's Day.

[wizzardTim]

I believe it is no scam,

Next seemed like the best scam too.

[Lauda]

Attractive projects
its might be the best altcoin crapcoin ever made.

[yorich]

I think this has gone on long enough.  I'm sending this over to Visa's legal department, see what they think about this nonsense. And for "VisaCoin"...

Trademarks and Brand Names
The trademarks, logos and service marks, whether registered or unregistered (collectively the "Trademarks") displayed on the Visa Site are Trademarks of Visa and others. VISA®, the Three Bands Design Mark®, CLASSIC®, the Comet Design Mark®, the Dove Design Mark®, ELECTRON®, ENTREE®, the Impulse Design Mark®, INTERLINK®, the Network Design Mark®, PLUS®, the PLUS Design Mark®, and It's Everywhere You Want To Be® are registered Trademarks of Visa in the United States and other countries (trademark denotations on the Visa Site indicate federal registrations in the United States). Nothing contained on the Visa Site should be construed as granting by implication, estoppel, or otherwise, any license or right to use any Trademark displayed on the Visa Site without the written permission of Visa or such third party that may own the Trademark. Misuse of any Trademarks, or any other content, displayed on the Visa Site is prohibited. Visa aggressively enforces its intellectual property rights, including via civil and criminal proceedings.

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[instacalm]

I think this has gone on long enough.  I'm sending this over to Visa's legal department, see what they think about this nonsense. And for "VisaCoin"...

Trademarks and Brand Names
The trademarks, logos and service marks, whether registered or unregistered (collectively the "Trademarks") displayed on the Visa Site are Trademarks of Visa and others. VISA®, the Three Bands Design Mark®, CLASSIC®, the Comet Design Mark®, the Dove Design Mark®, ELECTRON®, ENTREE®, the Impulse Design Mark®, INTERLINK®, the Network Design Mark®, PLUS®, the PLUS Design Mark®, and It's Everywhere You Want To Be® are registered Trademarks of Visa in the United States and other countries (trademark denotations on the Visa Site indicate federal registrations in the United States). Nothing contained on the Visa Site should be construed as granting by implication, estoppel, or otherwise, any license or right to use any Trademark displayed on the Visa Site without the written permission of Visa or such third party that may own the Trademark. Misuse of any Trademarks, or any other content, displayed on the Visa Site is prohibited. Visa aggressively enforces its intellectual property rights, including via civil and criminal proceedings.

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Who the fck cares about US trademarks? The OP certainly not.

Who would Visa want to file a lawsuit against? There is nobody to reach.

... this project itself is a different story

[markm]

Just like there was no one to reach when Kim Dot Com's website(s) aided and abetted piracy of copyright materials?

SInce this forum has mods, it cannot claim to be a mere "common carrier" carrying content without knowing what the content is/contains.

So maybe if nothing else they could send the forum itself a cease and desist for aiding and abetting "conspiracy to violate a Trademark" or some such.

I am not licensed to practice law on the planet known as Earth so consult legal professionals local to your planet...

-MarkM-

[GigaCoin]

I think this has gone on long enough.  I'm sending this over to Visa's legal department, see what they think about this nonsense. And for "VisaCoin"...

Trademarks and Brand Names
The trademarks, logos and service marks, whether registered or unregistered (collectively the "Trademarks") displayed on the Visa Site are Trademarks of Visa and others. VISA®, the Three Bands Design Mark®, CLASSIC®, the Comet Design Mark®, the Dove Design Mark®, ELECTRON®, ENTREE®, the Impulse Design Mark®, INTERLINK®, the Network Design Mark®, PLUS®, the PLUS Design Mark®, and It's Everywhere You Want To Be® are registered Trademarks of Visa in the United States and other countries (trademark denotations on the Visa Site indicate federal registrations in the United States). Nothing contained on the Visa Site should be construed as granting by implication, estoppel, or otherwise, any license or right to use any Trademark displayed on the Visa Site without the written permission of Visa or such third party that may own the Trademark. Misuse of any Trademarks, or any other content, displayed on the Visa Site is prohibited. Visa aggressively enforces its intellectual property rights, including via civil and criminal proceedings.

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Who the fck cares about US trademarks? The OP certainly not.

Who would Visa want to file a lawsuit against? There is nobody to reach.

... this project itself is a different story

Visa is trademarked in most countries in the world on the just the US, read their terms.

They also have a history of aggressively crushing anyone that conflicts with their trademark

I think this is a concern that the dev should address here if this is to be a long term project

[instacalm]

I think this has gone on long enough.  I'm sending this over to Visa's legal department, see what they think about this nonsense. And for "VisaCoin"...

Trademarks and Brand Names
The trademarks, logos and service marks, whether registered or unregistered (collectively the "Trademarks") displayed on the Visa Site are Trademarks of Visa and others. VISA®, the Three Bands Design Mark®, CLASSIC®, the Comet Design Mark®, the Dove Design Mark®, ELECTRON®, ENTREE®, the Impulse Design Mark®, INTERLINK®, the Network Design Mark®, PLUS®, the PLUS Design Mark®, and It's Everywhere You Want To Be® are registered Trademarks of Visa in the United States and other countries (trademark denotations on the Visa Site indicate federal registrations in the United States). Nothing contained on the Visa Site should be construed as granting by implication, estoppel, or otherwise, any license or right to use any Trademark displayed on the Visa Site without the written permission of Visa or such third party that may own the Trademark. Misuse of any Trademarks, or any other content, displayed on the Visa Site is prohibited. Visa aggressively enforces its intellectual property rights, including via civil and criminal proceedings.

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Who the fck cares about US trademarks? The OP certainly not.

Who would Visa want to file a lawsuit against? There is nobody to reach.

... this project itself is a different story

Visa is trademarked in most countries in the world on the just the US, read their terms.

They also have a history of aggressively crushing anyone that conflicts with their trademark

I think this is a concern that the dev should address here if this is to be a long term project

You sure are right, but as you can see there is not even a reply. The unknown dev resides in cryptoanarchy and is not going to care about trademarks, you see.

[panonym]

...Really?
"Visa is Visa, vsc is vsc"... Worst name choice ever.
Keep vsc if you wish, but find another name that visa... Seriously.

I will not call it a scam, 'seems so legit~
But one of these days 'such kind of start will be one. Be careful people.

We will destroy all of the BTC to generate an equal VSC in btc block chain

Then why the hell didn't you implement proof of burn / destruction of the coin?
I'm waiting for such an innovation.
Fair start, no mining, almost scam-proof.
I'd really enjoy to send some coin to a weird address to destroy my coin.

Update.2013.12.29
We also plan to shorten the deadline of IPO,and increase rewards to early donors

Not a fucking week has pass and you already change the deadline?
For fuck's sake people, learn to assume your talk.

That's exactly why I "hate" Nextcoin.
They announce a month a half, and then suddently decise to stop it after 2 weeks for no honest apparent reason, nor any explication (that I succed to find).
Making the original wealth distribution BAD on purpose is a HUGE turn off to me.
That's why I didn't bought a single NXT even at 300 satoshi.
Now 'almost 8000 satoshi, 'well greed and delusion is amongst human...
A pity I miss a x26 train.
At least I stay true to myself. No regret.
(gonna hurt many if 10 early guy sell everything in january... a needed lesson?)


Edit:
Arf, fuck it.
After this time consuming text that nobody will care about, I was in the mind to lose 50$.
But the address already got over 50 income.
Thank you for a such bad appearance, wow! You save me money.
Best of luck to the fools.

[btcgoods]

ok then so is there anyone here who has sent BTC but hasnt heard back yet?

Sent 1 BTC, OP got back to me and my name is up on the list. Fingers crossed. Much hate, so wow!

I'm sure OP will address the Visa issue.

[lenco]

I read the NXT‘ announcement, think for a minute! The NXT is a bit different.see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.0
so, please more detail and will be more people come.

[cyb72]

Can rename it to Vsiacoin.

[MsCollec]

Can rename it to Vsiacoin.

Why can't Visacoin be Vscoin or VSC we all know it's still visa coin.

[opticalcarrier]

Or just VCoin.  XVC trading code

[opticalcarrier]

I think this has gone on long enough.  I'm sending this over to Visa's legal department, see what they think about this nonsense. And for "VisaCoin"...

Trademarks and Brand Names
The trademarks, logos and service marks, whether registered or unregistered (collectively the "Trademarks") displayed on the Visa Site are Trademarks of Visa and others. VISA®, the Three Bands Design Mark®, CLASSIC®, the Comet Design Mark®, the Dove Design Mark®, ELECTRON®, ENTREE®, the Impulse Design Mark®, INTERLINK®, the Network Design Mark®, PLUS®, the PLUS Design Mark®, and It's Everywhere You Want To Be® are registered Trademarks of Visa in the United States and other countries (trademark denotations on the Visa Site indicate federal registrations in the United States). Nothing contained on the Visa Site should be construed as granting by implication, estoppel, or otherwise, any license or right to use any Trademark displayed on the Visa Site without the written permission of Visa or such third party that may own the Trademark. Misuse of any Trademarks, or any other content, displayed on the Visa Site is prohibited. Visa aggressively enforces its intellectual property rights, including via civil and criminal proceedings.

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Who the fck cares about US trademarks? The OP certainly not.

Who would Visa want to file a lawsuit against? There is nobody to reach.

... this project itself is a different story

Visa is trademarked in most countries in the world on the just the US, read their terms.

They also have a history of aggressively crushing anyone that conflicts with their trademark

I think this is a concern that the dev should address here if this is to be a long term project

You sure are right, but as you can see there is not even a reply. The unknown dev resides in cryptoanarchy and is not going to care about trademarks, you see.

what you did not think about, however, was how VISA will come after any forums sites that "harbor" threads about visacoin or VSC.  Thus forcing bitcointalk and other sites to censor threads on VSC.

[dewdeded]

So maybe if nothing else they could send the forum itself a cease and desist for aiding and abetting "conspiracy to violate a Trademark" or some such.

The forum is operate anon too.

[panonym]

Or just VCoin.  XVC trading code

This is nice.

[juta9821]

ok then so is there anyone here who has sent BTC but hasnt heard back yet?

I sent 0.56449121 BTC

[Coinsy]

I think this has gone on long enough.  I'm sending this over to Visa's legal department, see what they think about this nonsense. And for "VisaCoin"...

Trademarks and Brand Names
The trademarks, logos and service marks, whether registered or unregistered (collectively the "Trademarks") displayed on the Visa Site are Trademarks of Visa and others. VISA®, the Three Bands Design Mark®, CLASSIC®, the Comet Design Mark®, the Dove Design Mark®, ELECTRON®, ENTREE®, the Impulse Design Mark®, INTERLINK®, the Network Design Mark®, PLUS®, the PLUS Design Mark®, and It's Everywhere You Want To Be® are registered Trademarks of Visa in the United States and other countries (trademark denotations on the Visa Site indicate federal registrations in the United States). Nothing contained on the Visa Site should be construed as granting by implication, estoppel, or otherwise, any license or right to use any Trademark displayed on the Visa Site without the written permission of Visa or such third party that may own the Trademark. Misuse of any Trademarks, or any other content, displayed on the Visa Site is prohibited. Visa aggressively enforces its intellectual property rights, including via civil and criminal proceedings.

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You're such a tool.  You sent this forum thread to Visa's legal department? Great job. "This has gone on long enough" What, two weeks? If it becomes an issue and needs to be changed it will be a quick and easy fix. I don't know why everyone is breaking a sweat over the name. Relax. Side note: jesus already at nearly 80 BTC for the donation fund, what the hell happened yesterday? Awesome stuff.

[panonym]

You guys are insane...

Note that 80% of the coin incoming may be from the poster itself.
We certainly have 20% of fools among us.


So there is Mastercoin, Next, Visacoin, Imagine coin, Aerocoin, Intercoin.
I should make a gremlins coin!
Can somebody create yet another topic, some very mysteriouz text, make me a gremlins meme of two.
Here: post this address as genesis maker 12tdgzDqhifuxbHdZ8ptustxqEEUhFfFhv

Exclusively and just for you - as you will do all the job for me - I will give you 1% of all the income! Amaziiiiiing!

Even more!  You have the possibility to give it back to me and later I will give you 10% of all my share in all those exceptional newnamecoin.

[S3MKi]

You guys are insane...

Note that 80% of the coin incoming may be from the poster itself.
We certainly have 20% of fools among us.


So there is Mastercoin, Next, Visacoin, Imagine coin, Aerocoin, Intercoin.
I should make a gremlins coin!
Can somebody create yet another topic, some very mysteriouz text, make me a gremlins meme of two.
Here: post this address as genesis maker 12tdgzDqhifuxbHdZ8ptustxqEEUhFfFhv

Exclusively and just for you - as you will do all the job for me - I will give you 1% of all the income! Amaziiiiiing!

Even more!  You have the possibility to give it back to me and later I will give you 10% of all my share in all those exceptional newnamecoin.

lol

[imperatron]

Or just VCoin.  XVC trading code

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389691.0

How many...?

[Drexme]

I agree, just drop the 'a'
and leave it as Viscoin

[salsacz]

what about WCcoin?

[yorich]

I think this has gone on long enough.  I'm sending this over to Visa's legal department, see what they think about this nonsense. And for "VisaCoin"...

Trademarks and Brand Names
The trademarks, logos and service marks, whether registered or unregistered (collectively the "Trademarks") displayed on the Visa Site are Trademarks of Visa and others. VISA®, the Three Bands Design Mark®, CLASSIC®, the Comet Design Mark®, the Dove Design Mark®, ELECTRON®, ENTREE®, the Impulse Design Mark®, INTERLINK®, the Network Design Mark®, PLUS®, the PLUS Design Mark®, and It's Everywhere You Want To Be® are registered Trademarks of Visa in the United States and other countries (trademark denotations on the Visa Site indicate federal registrations in the United States). Nothing contained on the Visa Site should be construed as granting by implication, estoppel, or otherwise, any license or right to use any Trademark displayed on the Visa Site without the written permission of Visa or such third party that may own the Trademark. Misuse of any Trademarks, or any other content, displayed on the Visa Site is prohibited. Visa aggressively enforces its intellectual property rights, including via civil and criminal proceedings.

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You're such a tool.  You sent this forum thread to Visa's legal department? Great job. "This has gone on long enough" What, two weeks? If it becomes an issue and needs to be changed it will be a quick and easy fix. I don't know why everyone is breaking a sweat over the name. Relax. Side note: jesus already at nearly 80 BTC for the donation fund, what the hell happened yesterday? Awesome stuff.

On the contrary,  The OP clearly doesn't understand copyright/trademarks, and isn't taking this seriously.  It's better this gets shutdown/name changed sooner rather than later, before even more people part with their hard earned BTC.   Would you rather invest dozens or hundreds of bitcoins and/or hours of mining/electricity into a project that just gets shut down later?

Sooner is better than later good sir.

[markm]

So maybe if nothing else they could send the forum itself a cease and desist for aiding and abetting "conspiracy to violate a Trademark" or some such.

The forum is operate anon too.

It is a dot org domain, thus well within U.S. ability to shut down / seize.

-MarkM-

[dewdeded]

markm: Man, stay real. Forums domains don't get sized because of one thread.

[instacalm]

So maybe if nothing else they could send the forum itself a cease and desist for aiding and abetting "conspiracy to violate a Trademark" or some such.

The forum is operate anon too.

It is a dot org domain, thus well within U.S. ability to shut down / seize.

-MarkM-

If the US shuts down an .org domain, another TLD which is not in their reach pops up immediately...

[opticalcarrier]

Good grief people....  op has another thread for the naming issue. Go argue over there.  op you may want to make this very clearinthe op.

And while the domain wouldnt get siezed right off, the site could get shut down if it ignored a cease and desist order which VISA would easily get gramted

[Jaguar0625]

Really interesting coin! And it has already raised more than 4x what NXT did during its presale. Greater participation early on should help it combat NXT's biggest problems, which are (lack of) distribution and hoarding.

Sent 0.2 BTC

[wiseye]

Really interesting coin! And it has already raised more than 4x what NXT did during its presale. Greater participation early on should help it combat NXT's biggest problems, which are (lack of) distribution and hoarding.

Sent 0.2 BTC

Get any reply yet?

[spud3861]

Will you be adding all investors to the google docs spreadsheet or only the first 50?

[microlost]

happy new year,lucky visacoin

[wiseye]

Really interesting coin! And it has already raised more than 4x what NXT did during its presale. Greater participation early on should help it combat NXT's biggest problems, which are (lack of) distribution and hoarding.

Sent 0.2 BTC

Get any reply yet?

What kind of reply do you want

Please update the document sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing#gid=0
Thank you.

[tjypp]

Why didn't I name （tjypp）and company form 

Status: 295 confirmations
Date: 2013/12/30 22:24
To: 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
Debit: -0.10 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -0.1001 BTC
Transaction ID: 88829bbdbce3b050e043d285bf5fa19228b36986a80834d0d09f369307417b02


Status: 295 confirmations
Date: 2013/12/30 23:42
To: 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
Debit: -0.3928 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -0.3929 BTC
Transaction ID: 384c31ffb29d14192bc2c2bc666f670120ecce9d8149632bf21faef3115b4ef6

[lenco]

wow,it seems it's hotter and hotter. Great people, Great invest ...,....maybe?

[plasm]

I am very worried.

[MsCollec]

I am very worried.

Take some vitamins
It's new year.. I'm very excited   lol

[Bit510]

Visacoin:Born for circulation

-Method of payment and Circulation based on BTC-Gold

Using VSC,Simple like using your Visa

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af40/vsccoins/visacoin_zpsb4388c39.jpg

2013.12.29 Important update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389958.0

VSC  IPO,Take off now ! ! !                                                                   Amount:21.0602BTC Has Received

Blockchain: https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

Remind:Do not forget to pm me

Why do we need Visacoin?

Most of the time a dollar is in your wallet in the morning and in the afternoon it’s in the Starbuck’s register. We rarely keep the same dollars in our pocket for more than days at a time, no matter how rich or poor we might be. My experience in the bank industry has taught me if there is no circulation, the dollar is just a piece of paper. Conversely, if that same dollar circulates, its value will be doubled. Take a look at your BTC, how long have you kept your bitcoin in your personal wallets? From the moment you get them, they often do not move outside of the confines of your wallet addresses.

There are many reasons for that but one of them are that BTC wallets are very inconvenient to use:
-   They are 8G or more
-   We have to wait for confirmation that amounts to 10 minutes of our time or more
-   You cannot use them for every purchase you’d like to make (You’re starving but cannot use your BTC to buy a hamburger at a specific burger joint)

There are many problems with BTC preventing it from widespread use. BTC in a lot of ways is gold, and we don’t directly use gold as trade for goods and services. It’s not practical. We don’t walk into KFC offering a unit of gold in exchange for a bucket of chicken. BTC is the same way. For a digital currency to function in everyday commerce a coin must be easy to use, easy to carry, lightweight, and without copious amounts of data. Visacoin is that answer.
      
What is Visacoin?

Visacoin is a convenient, safe and reliable method of payment.
How? If you have a deep knowledge of BTC, you know BTC is actually a book -- recording the data source and destination. Visacoin only selects what’s useful to us in the Blockchain. Visacoin is not trying to create an entirely new blockchain like every other cryptocurrency. Instead, it is trying to make the existing BTC blockchain more efficient. Visacoin’s only purpose is to achieve the format necessary for a simple and easy BTC transaction with the use of a card or smartphone. Buy what you want with no waiting, no matter when, no matter where.

How can we get Visacoin?

As mentioned above, Visacoin is not creating its own blockchain, but is selecting from the BTC blockchain. This can accelerate the process of our transaction. Thusly, Visacoin is another form of BTC.

Given this feature we don't have to develop a coin and waste everyone's time on mining. So we are using crowdfunding, similar to the way MSC has.

If you want to get VSC do the following:

1. Deadline: 3 months (90 days) 2014.3.31 will be the final day of the crowdfund. The earlier join in this project the more benefits you get (later I will detail what those are).
2. Limit: In the design, we don't stipulate a minimum and maximum limit. You can send 1mbtc, or1000btc. You choose.
3. Method: Send any amount of BTC to 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb By the Visacoin foundation management）.(Do not forget to pm me),this will affect how much VSC will you get.
https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

How much Visacoin can we get
Depends on the following three factors:
A: Total BTC of project received.
B: How much BTC you sent.
C: When you send it during the project period (The first month in can get extra rewards).

Extra rewards:

In order to encourage everyone to actively participate in the project, I own part of the BTC as a reward. The first person who sends more than 1 BTC will get the same number of BTC as a reward. The first month in can get extra 1.1X, the second month 1.05X.

DO YOU WANT TO WORK FOR VISACOIN?

We have a ton of work to do. You can help, and get paid for your work!

We have:
1. Working to build wallets and independent software projects.
2. Writing specs for various features.
3. A PR company.
4. Project Management
5. Hiring

And many more…
    To find a project,  Please apply by emailing  vsccoins@gmail.com.

　　　We also need to set up a foundation to manage the daily affairs. Including but not limited to the following content:
　　　1）Release the latest progress of the project,
　　　2）Supervise the use of money
　　　3）Solve technical problems
　　　4）To solve the public doubt
　　　Etc.
　　　If you are an honest man（It is more important than any other requirements），and have the time and the ability to management the team,
You can contact me by email（vsccoins@gmail.com）,

Now I need at least three people to help me finish prophase works.

Github:https://github.com/visacoin/vsc

Medium and long-term plan will be released.

Blockchain：https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google：https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

  
VSC Logo Design Contest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0
website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

I didn't realize that a project will have so many questions on the first day,I all day in response to the question,Really frustrating!!!

New Progress
Short-term plans:
1) Designing a logo of vsc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0

2) Build a formal website
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

3)Finished whitepaper
Is writing

Medium-term plan:
1）Set up a Foundation
In different countries and regions
2）Recruitment software developers
((Wallet For Windows.luinx and Mac os.released sourcecodes))
3）Develop an API(for iPhone and android)

In this Step,
development the main functions of vsc:
Secured transactions
Credit facility
Automatic transfers between accounts
Foreign Currency Exchange
Electronic money
more:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385739.0


Some notes:
1）This project has only just begun. Lots of work waiting to be done，I have gave up my Christmas holidays
Many people want to see the fruits immediately， They want to want to wake up tomorrow and be a millionaire，. We need hard work to achieve that.
2）This project is like a baby. There are many aspects that need to improve，. There may be all kinds of problems， but we cannot deny the viability of Visacoin because of flaws that might arise.
3）I'm tired of responding to a variety of suspicions on the project ，so，I will only answer questions about technical issues. If you do not believe, that is fine but please leave. This project is open source.，
4) I must remind： everyone that any project has the possibility of failure， including this one, mscs plight has confirmed this， I'd rather you see it as an attempt ,a kind of opportunity which  can change the BTCworld. If it fails, I would lose all my btc, so I will try my best to make it successful.

I will always publish any new progress I make.

Thanks to those who have encouraged me!!

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!!!

Let's see what our kind friend found about the thread, it was found by one of my friend but me.

The Visacoin author published the thread
Name:   Visacoin
Posts:   40
Activity:   14
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 24, 2013, 05:29:22 PM

The author was trying to find some one to translate the thread
Local / 山寨币 / 第二代比特币Visacoin的发布，以BTC作为酬劳的翻译任务    on: December 25, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
Visacoin is a  new currency is being developed，based on BTC-Gold

The project  purpose is to use  btc easier，like use your Visa card

文章在这：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.0

翻译中文并在这个板块发布

最好的你得到0.12BTC or100vsc


Name:   Tera-Hash
Posts:   19
Activity:   19
Position:   Member
Date Registered:   December 21, 2013, 05:07:19 PM
Last Active:   Today at 01:18:43 AM



Name:   cmj007cmj
Posts:   14
Activity:   14
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 12, 2013, 11:03:18 PM
Last Active:   Today at 09:28:36 AM

The author(maybe same person as Visacoin) ilan translated the thread, but he/she did not get the 0.12BTC bounties at address 17SXR6xpCRcxUCgSMf52BFjdUpxTAxQdYm.
Name:   ilan【中文翻译者，17SXR6xpCRcxUCgSMf52BFjdUpxTAxQdYm，这个地址没有得到visacoin的许诺的0.12BTC翻译费】
Posts:   7
Activity:   7
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 19, 2013, 08:26:22 AM
Last Active:   December 27, 2013, 11:20:40 AM
ilan在这里表露了做山寨的意思：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=380617.msg4086593#msg4086593

Pretended to translate the thread.
Name:   Ribuce.J【假装翻译：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384551.msg4137324#msg4137324】
Posts:   3
Activity:   3
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 25, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
Last Active:   December 26, 2013, 06:44:52 AM


See above evidence and find out the truth.

About me - From Mars. Fighting for truth forever.

I have told you guys this is definitely a scam!!! Let me repeat my opinion here again. Anybody still trust this project and donate to the BTC address? Then you will lose all your BTCs and Visacoin will steal all of them, let see the final result. Let's keep a closely eye on this scam thread. Visacoin has no technical background at all!!!

[the_coinhunter]

I have told you guys this is definitely a scam!!! Let me repeat my opinion here again. Anybody still trust this project and donate to the BTC address? Then you will lose all your BTCs and Visacoin will steal all of them, let see the final result. Let's keep a closely eye on this scam thread. Visacoin has no technical background at all!!!

+1

[Bit510]

Guys, let's vote for VSC/Visacoin what you really think about this thread before you make a decision:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=394328.0

[trackpantsboner]

Please tell me nobody actually sent this guy any btc and that its all a big joke!

I am utterly incredulous reading this.

[wizzardTim]

Me too!! I believe in Visacoin

[juta9821]

Hi Visacoin will you be updating the google doc anytime soon?

[yangsan72921]

有新的进展吗

[Coinsy]

Visacoin:Born for circulation

-Method of payment and Circulation based on BTC-Gold

Using VSC,Simple like using your Visa

2013.12.29 Important update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389958.0

VSC  IPO,Take off now ! ! !                                                                   Amount:21.0602BTC Has Received

Blockchain: https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

Remind:Do not forget to pm me

Why do we need Visacoin?

Most of the time a dollar is in your wallet in the morning and in the afternoon it’s in the Starbuck’s register. We rarely keep the same dollars in our pocket for more than days at a time, no matter how rich or poor we might be. My experience in the bank industry has taught me if there is no circulation, the dollar is just a piece of paper. Conversely, if that same dollar circulates, its value will be doubled. Take a look at your BTC, how long have you kept your bitcoin in your personal wallets? From the moment you get them, they often do not move outside of the confines of your wallet addresses.

There are many reasons for that but one of them are that BTC wallets are very inconvenient to use:
-   They are 8G or more
-   We have to wait for confirmation that amounts to 10 minutes of our time or more
-   You cannot use them for every purchase you’d like to make (You’re starving but cannot use your BTC to buy a hamburger at a specific burger joint)

There are many problems with BTC preventing it from widespread use. BTC in a lot of ways is gold, and we don’t directly use gold as trade for goods and services. It’s not practical. We don’t walk into KFC offering a unit of gold in exchange for a bucket of chicken. BTC is the same way. For a digital currency to function in everyday commerce a coin must be easy to use, easy to carry, lightweight, and without copious amounts of data. Visacoin is that answer.
      
What is Visacoin?

Visacoin is a convenient, safe and reliable method of payment.
How? If you have a deep knowledge of BTC, you know BTC is actually a book -- recording the data source and destination. Visacoin only selects what’s useful to us in the Blockchain. Visacoin is not trying to create an entirely new blockchain like every other cryptocurrency. Instead, it is trying to make the existing BTC blockchain more efficient. Visacoin’s only purpose is to achieve the format necessary for a simple and easy BTC transaction with the use of a card or smartphone. Buy what you want with no waiting, no matter when, no matter where.

How can we get Visacoin?

As mentioned above, Visacoin is not creating its own blockchain, but is selecting from the BTC blockchain. This can accelerate the process of our transaction. Thusly, Visacoin is another form of BTC.

Given this feature we don't have to develop a coin and waste everyone's time on mining. So we are using crowdfunding, similar to the way MSC has.

If you want to get VSC do the following:

1. Deadline: 3 months (90 days) 2014.3.31 will be the final day of the crowdfund. The earlier join in this project the more benefits you get (later I will detail what those are).
2. Limit: In the design, we don't stipulate a minimum and maximum limit. You can send 1mbtc, or1000btc. You choose.
3. Method: Send any amount of BTC to 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb By the Visacoin foundation management）.(Do not forget to pm me),this will affect how much VSC will you get.
https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

How much Visacoin can we get
Depends on the following three factors:
A: Total BTC of project received.
B: How much BTC you sent.
C: When you send it during the project period (The first month in can get extra rewards).

Extra rewards:

In order to encourage everyone to actively participate in the project, I own part of the BTC as a reward. The first person who sends more than 1 BTC will get the same number of BTC as a reward. The first month in can get extra 1.1X, the second month 1.05X.

DO YOU WANT TO WORK FOR VISACOIN?

We have a ton of work to do. You can help, and get paid for your work!

We have:
1. Working to build wallets and independent software projects.
2. Writing specs for various features.
3. A PR company.
4. Project Management
5. Hiring

And many more…
    To find a project,  Please apply by emailing  vsccoins@gmail.com.

　　　We also need to set up a foundation to manage the daily affairs. Including but not limited to the following content:
　　　1）Release the latest progress of the project,
　　　2）Supervise the use of money
　　　3）Solve technical problems
　　　4）To solve the public doubt
　　　Etc.
　　　If you are an honest man（It is more important than any other requirements），and have the time and the ability to management the team,
You can contact me by email（vsccoins@gmail.com）,

Now I need at least three people to help me finish prophase works.

Github:https://github.com/visacoin/vsc

Medium and long-term plan will be released.

Blockchain：https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

Google：https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

  
VSC Logo Design Contest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0
website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

I didn't realize that a project will have so many questions on the first day,I all day in response to the question,Really frustrating!!!

New Progress
Short-term plans:
1) Designing a logo of vsc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0

2) Build a formal website
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0

3)Finished whitepaper
Is writing

Medium-term plan:
1）Set up a Foundation
In different countries and regions
2）Recruitment software developers
((Wallet For Windows.luinx and Mac os.released sourcecodes))
3）Develop an API(for iPhone and android)

In this Step,
development the main functions of vsc:
Secured transactions
Credit facility
Automatic transfers between accounts
Foreign Currency Exchange
Electronic money
more:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385739.0


Some notes:
1）This project has only just begun. Lots of work waiting to be done，I have gave up my Christmas holidays
Many people want to see the fruits immediately， They want to want to wake up tomorrow and be a millionaire，. We need hard work to achieve that.
2）This project is like a baby. There are many aspects that need to improve，. There may be all kinds of problems， but we cannot deny the viability of Visacoin because of flaws that might arise.
3）I'm tired of responding to a variety of suspicions on the project ，so，I will only answer questions about technical issues. If you do not believe, that is fine but please leave. This project is open source.，
4) I must remind： everyone that any project has the possibility of failure， including this one, mscs plight has confirmed this， I'd rather you see it as an attempt ,a kind of opportunity which  can change the BTCworld. If it fails, I would lose all my btc, so I will try my best to make it successful.

I will always publish any new progress I make.

Thanks to those who have encouraged me!!

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!!!

Let's see what our kind friend found about the thread, it was found by one of my friend but me.

The Visacoin author published the thread
Name:   Visacoin
Posts:   40
Activity:   14
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 24, 2013, 05:29:22 PM

The author was trying to find some one to translate the thread
Local / 山寨币 / 第二代比特币Visacoin的发布，以BTC作为酬劳的翻译任务    on: December 25, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
Visacoin is a  new currency is being developed，based on BTC-Gold

The project  purpose is to use  btc easier，like use your Visa card

文章在这：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.0

翻译中文并在这个板块发布

最好的你得到0.12BTC or100vsc


Name:   Tera-Hash
Posts:   19
Activity:   19
Position:   Member
Date Registered:   December 21, 2013, 05:07:19 PM
Last Active:   Today at 01:18:43 AM



Name:   cmj007cmj
Posts:   14
Activity:   14
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 12, 2013, 11:03:18 PM
Last Active:   Today at 09:28:36 AM

The author(maybe same person as Visacoin) ilan translated the thread, but he/she did not get the 0.12BTC bounties at address 17SXR6xpCRcxUCgSMf52BFjdUpxTAxQdYm.
Name:   ilan【中文翻译者，17SXR6xpCRcxUCgSMf52BFjdUpxTAxQdYm，这个地址没有得到visacoin的许诺的0.12BTC翻译费】
Posts:   7
Activity:   7
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 19, 2013, 08:26:22 AM
Last Active:   December 27, 2013, 11:20:40 AM
ilan在这里表露了做山寨的意思：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=380617.msg4086593#msg4086593

Pretended to translate the thread.
Name:   Ribuce.J【假装翻译：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384551.msg4137324#msg4137324】
Posts:   3
Activity:   3
Position:   Jr. Member
Date Registered:   December 25, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
Last Active:   December 26, 2013, 06:44:52 AM


See above evidence and find out the truth.

About me - From Mars. Fighting for truth forever.

I have told you guys this is definitely a scam!!! Let me repeat my opinion here again. Anybody still trust this project and donate to the BTC address? Then you will lose all your BTCs and Visacoin will steal all of them, let see the final result. Let's keep a closely eye on this scam thread. Visacoin has no technical background at all!!!

How does what you posted make this "definitely a scam"? You're spewing bullshit.

[melish02]

It's not looking good here folks... 

[claycoins]

no website, no technical info, a new account created specifically for this....yeah seems legit   

[lenco]

93 btc till now, what's happening? You guys are insane, yes I did sent some ,but now ,I definitely won't sent a tiny bit,

[Drexme]

I decided I want my BTC back.
Due to some unfortunate events, I need to pay some bills but I need my BTC back.
You can check the previous PMs for my BTC. Please send it back ASAP.

139JtYdBqiQGVZPwbVChwytj2WL2NzzD6F

Here is my address.

Regards

Address: 1HFA4YLvwv9UY6vR5Gi1R4e4MLCPZkaPSn
Amount : 1.02671629
Hash: 4b18d62bb90138dc5fddfec2808e112213861a68585198a2752b89eef0b2fdf0

Proof:

From my BTC-e account

[lucky88888]

IM RICH IM RICH@@@@@@!@!!!!!! 
I send him 27 btc!!!
i will becoome a huge hoarder i will lock my computer away for 10 years and come back to see how much i have earned.
Be prepare for a major crash exactly in 10 years time, counting from now!

[Falkor]

can i use this coin at atm's?

[Blueman666]

I decided I want my BTC back.
Due to some unfortunate events, I need to pay some bills but I need my BTC back.
You can check the previous PMs for my BTC. Please send it back ASAP.

139JtYdBqiQGVZPwbVChwytj2WL2NzzD6F

Here is my address.

Regards

Address: 1HFA4YLvwv9UY6vR5Gi1R4e4MLCPZkaPSn
Amount : 1.02671629
Hash: 4b18d62bb90138dc5fddfec2808e112213861a68585198a2752b89eef0b2fdf0

Proof:

From my BTC-e account

Good luck with that, scammers are well known for their compassion.

[Bit510]

I decided I want my BTC back.
Due to some unfortunate events, I need to pay some bills but I need my BTC back.
You can check the previous PMs for my BTC. Please send it back ASAP.

139JtYdBqiQGVZPwbVChwytj2WL2NzzD6F

Here is my address.

Regards

Address: 1HFA4YLvwv9UY6vR5Gi1R4e4MLCPZkaPSn
Amount : 1.02671629
Hash: 4b18d62bb90138dc5fddfec2808e112213861a68585198a2752b89eef0b2fdf0

Proof:
http://s17.postimg.org/lem0kxx3j/New_Bitmap_Image_3.png
From my BTC-e account

Not only you want your BTCs back, there are 113 victims want their BTCs back. Just a few words to get $70347 or 93.67 BTC, what amazing scam! Anyone else want to hug the fire?

Three days passed since the last update of this thread, what kind of smile can you imagine the scammer are doing? Is the scammer on trip or something? Wowwwwwwwwwww.

Vote here to let more people know the truth: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=394328.0

******************************************************
Summary
Address   1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
Hash 160   f9cf71c05b463aef337c930411763ec0b8f17d9f
Tools   Taint Analysis - Related Tags - Unspent Outputs
Transactions
No. Transactions   113   

Total Received   $ 70,347.39   

Final Balance   $ 70,347.39   
******************************************************

******************************************************
Summary
Address   1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
Hash 160   f9cf71c05b463aef337c930411763ec0b8f17d9f
Tools   Taint Analysis - Related Tags - Unspent Outputs
Transactions
No. Transactions   113   

Total Received   93.67162604 BTC   

Final Balance   93.67162604 BTC   
******************************************************

[Buratino]

All donated BTCs are in given account 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb still. Fund has not gone away. May be, it is not scam, and we just wait for dev appearance.

[Bit510]

All donated BTCs are in given account 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb still. Fund has not gone away. May be, it is not scam, and we just wait for dev appearance.

I would suggest people to be smart not only invest for a few words.

[Come-from-Beyond]

All donated BTCs are in given account 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb still. Fund has not gone away. May be, it is not scam, and we just wait for dev appearance.

I would suggest people to be smart not only invest for a few words.

For Nxt this did work...

[zhangdu]

@visacoin
不管好坏，你得要弄个币出来，哪怕自己不懂，别人捐的钱也够你找个专业的人来做。实在找不到的话，把别人的币还了吧。虽然你没说是哪里人，但大家心里还是清楚的，不要为了一己之私，让一国人挨骂。谢谢！

[Bit510]

All donated BTCs are in given account 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb still. Fund has not gone away. May be, it is not scam, and we just wait for dev appearance.

I would suggest people to be smart not only invest for a few words.

For Nxt this did work...

But do you know what kind of guy Visacoin is? Anybody know who is he? Where is he from?
a) No technical spec.
b) No sophiscated team member
c) Visacoin have no idea of what VSC will be done finally
d) No website
e) Nxt was doing specific/technical work before funding!!! Nxt BCNext is a veteran member of this forum. What about VSC?

...

[Buratino]

All donated BTCs are in given account 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb still. Fund has not gone away. May be, it is not scam, and we just wait for dev appearance.

I would suggest people to be smart not only invest for a few words.

For Nxt this did work...

But do you know what kind of guy Visacoin is? Anybody know who is he? Where is he from?
a) No technical spec.
b) No sophiscated team member
c) Visacoin have no idea of what VSC will be done finally
d) No website
e) Nxt was doing specific/technical work before funding!!! Nxt BCNext is a veteran member of this forum. What about VSC?

...

You are right and ask the right questions. But nobody knows answers. Near future will tell.

[Come-from-Beyond]

But do you know what kind of guy Visacoin is? Anybody know who is he? Where is he from?
a) No technical spec.
b) No sophiscated team member
c) Visacoin have no idea of what VSC will be done finally
d) No website
e) Nxt was doing specific/technical work before funding!!! Nxt BCNext is a veteran member of this forum. What about VSC?

...

Valid points. I mentioned Nxt coz I don't like ppl shouting SCAM at every coin they don't own.

[lenco]

@visacoin
不管好坏，你得要弄个币出来，哪怕自己不懂，别人捐的钱也够你找个专业的人来做。实在找不到的话，把别人的币还了吧。虽然你没说是哪里人，但大家心里还是清楚的，不要为了一己之私，让一国人挨骂。谢谢！

很支持你的观点，这么多人都入股，其他动机不说，最重要的还是信任。

[Bit510]

All donated BTCs are in given account 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb still. Fund has not gone away. May be, it is not scam, and we just wait for dev appearance.

I would suggest people to be smart not only invest for a few words.

For Nxt this did work...

But do you know what kind of guy Visacoin is? Anybody know who is he? Where is he from?
a) No technical spec.
b) No sophiscated team member
c) Visacoin have no idea of what VSC will be done finally
d) No website
e) Nxt was doing specific/technical work before funding!!! Nxt BCNext is a veteran member of this forum. What about VSC?

...

You are right and ask the right questions. But nobody knows answers. Near future will tell.

Before we wait for the answer, let's do something, this thread 'https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=394328.msg4269978#msg4269978
' will keep an eye on VSC/Visacoin. Scam or not will be revealed soon!!!

[Coinsy]

So this coin is a scam because the dev hasn't posted in 3 days (which just happens to be over New Years and New Years Eve)? I think some of you need to relax the pitchforks.

[wizzardTim]

So this coin is a scam because the dev hasn't posted in 3 days (which just happens to be over New Years and New Years Eve)? I think some of you need to relax the pitchforks.

+1

[microlost]

There is no doubt that this is a scam.In fact, this guy still landed this account many times every day, but he did not update, nor any explains, maybe he will come out tomorrow to say someting, but I do not trust him again.by now there are already more than a hundred victims, and I hope no more BTCs will be send to him again.BTW, I guess this guy(maybe group) had launch another scam herehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391725.0

What can we do?

[Buratino]

Similar new project is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395758.0

[Nullu]

Similar new project is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395758.0

Yep. They only stand out because all the crapcoins have vacuous OPs. These threads look more legitimate by comparison (which isn't saying much).

Oh look, they're hiring developers. They must be real, then.

The fact that you can join this forum and just in few days accrue tens of thousands of dollars worth of bitcoin by spending 30 minutes writing a post is incredible beyond measure. With no buyer protection whatsoever. This is the worst kind of gambling.

[Bit510]

Similar new project is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395758.0

Wow, another SCAM one, before you make any decision, take a look at these responses to the three threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=394328.msg4269978#msg4269978

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.280

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391725.new#new

I do believe Imagine, Verocoin and Visacoin are the same guy/group, they have only one purpose - steal our kind and generous folks money by a few poor words. Who can stop this can grab them???

I have to say, there will be more and more SCAM threads here, do you really want to give your money to the pool without getting any profit??

[lenco]

Similar new project is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395758.0

Wow, another SCAM one, before you make any decision, take a look at these responses to the three threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=394328.msg4269978#msg4269978

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.280

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391725.new#new

I do believe Imagine, Verocoin and Visacoin are the same guy/group, they have only one purpose - steal our kind and generous folks money by a few poor words. Who can stop this can grab them???

I have to say, there will be more and more SCAM threads here, do you really want to give your money to the pool without getting any profit??

Wow, I don't know.

[Coinsy]

For investors waiting for Visacoin's response:

Check OP for updated google docs link.

[Coinsy]

There is no doubt that this is a scam.In fact, this guy still landed this account many times every day, but he did not update, nor any explains, maybe he will come out tomorrow to say someting, but I do not trust him again.by now there are already more than a hundred victims, and I hope no more BTCs will be send to him again.BTW, I guess this guy(maybe group) had launch another scam herehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391725.0

What can we do?

Visacoin posted 3 times yesterday and updated OP.

[wizzardTim]

Thanks for the update Visacoin.

We will have to work hard to surpass quickly nxt. First step is making good intro vids for promotion, contacting cryptocoincharts etc.

[Come-from-Beyond]

We will have to work hard to surpass quickly nxt. First step is making good intro vids for promotion, contacting cryptocoincharts etc.

I could leak future plans so u know what to develop in the 1st place...

[ireneang]

HI Visacoin developer, Thanks for the IPO update.

For this update, I found two mistakes.

1) My investment is 2.5 BTC, but only 1 BTC is shown.
2) The 27 BTC one is not shown.

[tk808]

HI Visacoin developer, Thanks for the IPO update.

For this update, I found two mistakes.

1) My investment is 2.5 BTC, but only 1 BTC is shown.
2) The 27 BTC one is not shown.

IPO means nothing, you should ask for tech specs.. screenshots.. project code

[klee]

Thanks for the update Visacoin.

We will have to work hard to surpass quickly nxt. First step is making good intro vids for promotion, contacting cryptocoincharts etc.

Dream on - you missed the NXT train and know you are bitching...

[relm9]

Thanks for the update Visacoin.

We will have to work hard to surpass quickly nxt. First step is making good intro vids for promotion, contacting cryptocoincharts etc.

How about a single shred of evidence that this actually exists first lol.

[tengshanzen]

I can not find my info now.I have PM you. Just have a look at it!       

[Woaibit]

VSC and Visacoin name are good, I do not think it is necessary to change the name.

BTW, the website www.visacoin.info is under developing. Let's be patient to beat those doubting for this project!!! Keep moving, I am always support this perfect project!!! I would say that MSC/NXT be careful, we are after you. LOL. Time will prove everything.

[relm9]

VSC and Visacoin name are good, I do not think it is necessary to change the name.

BTW, the website www.visacoin.info is under developing. Let's be patient to beat those doubting for this project!!! Keep moving, I am always support this perfect project!!! I would say that MSC/NXT be careful, we are after you. LOL. Time will prove everything.

Looks legit 

[lenco]

It seems better now, good, visacoin!

[jiefangqian]

qqgruop   239538910

please join in

This is visacoin investers group.

[lenco]

qqgruop   239538910

please join in

This is visacoin investers group.

有多少人了？

[OOO]

A website and logo means nothing on its own.  It takes 5 mins and a few dollars to set up which anyone can do.

There is no point contacting cryptocoincharts or creating marketing material if there is nothing to back it up.

We need to see the whitepaper and some techinal progress/development work.  Then we can evaluate if this is a serious project.

When will the whitepaper be ready?

[Nagath]

As i see there's a lot of people that like to gift BTC to scammers....
Here is my address 1KqzziqhtqD4ACWYHbUsPZBDMHpaR1NFp4 
You know that i would use the money for myself so i think that you should appreciate me being honest 

[whitetemple]

I have send you 0.1btc, why you did not record my name 

[ireneang]

HI Visacoin developer,

Why have you got the time to make the website, but you can't even spend half a minute to correct my investment figure in your IPO summary table?
My investment is 2.5 BTC, but only 1 BTC is shown.  I have informed you about my investments several times in the past a few days.

Using the provided block explorer https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb?offset=50&filter=0
Everybody can check using my BTC account number: 13gVWinUNnqAEDrnEDLwjeVPoLet4K8CBL.
Everybody can see that I have investigated two times (1.5 BTC, 1 BTC) with a total of 2.5 BTC.

Then Everybody can check my investment record (row 54, Ir**Ang) the IPO with the following link:
Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

Your irresponsible attitude has made me as well as other investors worry whether VisaCoin is just a scam!

[Come-from-Beyond]

Nxt source code is available for download. Why VSC is not released yet?

[Drexme]

It says on google docs the whitepaper will be released in 3 days.

Also it says that he updates the spreadsheet once every two days.

We will have to be patient with the OP

[ireneang]

It says on google docs the whitepaper will be released in 3 days.

Also it says that he updates the spreadsheet once every two days.

We will have to be patient with the OP

I have PM VisaCoin developer 4 days ago (more than 2 days, well... 2 times of 2 days), and provided a clear summary of my investment. Therefore, all my investment should have been stated/updated clearly in this 3rd Jan IPO summary. Unfortunately, it did not.

Furthermore, I agreed that VisaCoin developer could update every 2 days. However, mistakes should be corrected without delay. This is not an update. It is a correction!

[eagleEye]

Sent 400 BTC

[Coinsy]

It says on google docs the whitepaper will be released in 3 days.

Also it says that he updates the spreadsheet once every two days.

We will have to be patient with the OP

I have PM VisaCoin developer 4 days ago (more than 2 days, well... 2 times of 2 days), and provided a clear summary of my investment. Therefore, all my investment should have been stated/updated clearly in this 3rd Jan IPO summary. Unfortunately, it did not.

Furthermore, I agreed that VisaCoin developer could update every 2 days. However, mistakes should be corrected without delay. This is not an update. It is a correction!

I think you need to relax. You seem to be the only one with issues. My investment went through fine. I would wait until next update before getting too upset about it.

[ireneang]

HI Visacoin developer,

Why have you got the time to make the website, but you can't even spend half a minute to correct my investment figure in your IPO summary table?
My investment is 2.5 BTC, but only 1 BTC is shown.  I have informed you about my investments several times in the past a few days.

Using the provided block explorer https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb?offset=50&filter=0
Everybody can check using my BTC account number: 13gVWinUNnqAEDrnEDLwjeVPoLet4K8CBL.
Everybody can see that I have investigated two times (1.5 BTC, 1 BTC) with a total of 2.5 BTC.

Then Everybody can check my investment record (row 54, Ir**Ang) the IPO with the following link:
Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

Your irresponsible attitude has made me as well as other investors worry whether VisaCoin is just a scam!

[Kergekoin]

Sent 400 BTC

lol

[Nagath]

96 BTC?How can people be so retarded?
Making scammers rich, really i don't get it

[instacalm]

96 BTC?How can people be so retarded?
Making scammers rich, really i don't get it

People are greedy and tend to irrationality in this state of mind...

This thread's obvious scam and the following threads using the same model are insane on their own, but the truly insane are those who throw their BTC at this. Unbelievable...

[Nagath]

96 BTC?How can people be so retarded?
Making scammers rich, really i don't get it

People are greedy and tend to irrationality in this state of mind...

This thread's obvious scam and the following threads using the same model are insane on their own, but the truly insane are those who throw their BTC at this. No offense here, just my point of view.

I think that too!
People are trying to rush money instead of helping the crypto-community by founding real projects...not scams like this one. There are lots of true coders that can help this community, they need money but they don't beg nor ask for them..and they work so hard to follow the dream of fighting the banks empire.
I'm maybe a dreamer, but if i only had 1/10 of that scam money i would have done something really great to promote this world and i'm doing it right now..with a small 0.25BTC, helping translating new coins site and so on.
Really, if anyone here is smart enough, just stop sending money to these scammers

Help the community instead of gifting money to useless scammers!

Just my 0,00002435BTC (current rate )

[Nullu]

is this a scam or not? should i spend 3BTC or not?

You'd see more return giving that 3BTC to me and giving me a 10% cut in anything I make on the exchanges.

Weigh the risk vs the reward, I suppose. High risk, unknown reward.

You know what I love about this coin? Look at their hiring list. If this is legit, or even a clever scam, then they'll use a fraction of the BTC they've been given to hire a whole development team to do the work for them. It's brilliant, a in way.

[instacalm]

is this a scam or not? should i spend 3BTC or not?

You are joking, are you?

[eagleEye]

Sent 1200 BTC

[ireneang]

HI Visacoin (new Visncoin) developer,

Why have you got the time to make the website, changed the coin name, replied people, posted more posts for IPO, but you can't even spend half a minute to correct my investment figure in your IPO summary table?
My investment is 2.5 BTC, but only 1 BTC is shown.  I have informed you about my investments several times in the past a few days.

Using the provided block explorer https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb?offset=50&filter=0
Everybody can check using my BTC account number: 13gVWinUNnqAEDrnEDLwjeVPoLet4K8CBL.
Everybody can see that I have investigated two times (1.5 BTC, 1 BTC) with a total of 2.5 BTC.

Then Everybody can check my investment record (row 54, Ir**Ang) the IPO with the following link:
Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing

Your irresponsible attitude has made me as well as other investors worry whether VisnCoin (VisaCoin) is just a scam!

[ireneang]

VisaCoin developer,

Why you still haven't updated my investment (2.5 BTC, NOT 1 BTC) in your IPO summary (i.e., google spread sheet)?

[qbd1313]

VisaCoin developer,

https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/5ca6a49ac280f0d19cc557f492fa03c1b0194fa9bdfbfa1cb9184f20b001976f


1M88djbzyF4gLkfS73tV4XLd5zeDm9SNGu

1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

0.63154278 BTC

2014-01-01 04:24:43

I have sent you 0.63 BTC

[trackpantsboner]

sent 43800 BTC and 8 DOGE

[jeroenn13]

is this a scam or not? should i spend 3BTC or not?

You are joking, are you?

Ofcourse its a scam lol.
Atleast check the OP

[qbd1313]

VisaCoin developer,

https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/5ca6a49ac280f0d19cc557f492fa03c1b0194fa9bdfbfa1cb9184f20b001976f


1M88djbzyF4gLkfS73tV4XLd5zeDm9SNGu

1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

0.63154278 BTC

2014-01-01 04:24:43

I have sent you 0.63 BTC,what is the problem

[eagleEye]

Sent 1200 BTC

Viscoin, I sent 1200 BTC!!

Where is my investigation?¿?¿?¿?

Please, reply me I need the bitcoins !!

[eagleEye]

sent 43800 BTC and 8 DOGE

you should to ask Viscoin for returning investigation

[mitzie]

There is a reason that nxt source code is realeased and Visacoin it not launched yet   I would stay out of this

[Coinsy]

Another 29 BTC donation...

[Nullu]

Another 29 BTC donation...

I'm watching this project with extreme interest to see what happens next.

[Vega]

Another 29 BTC donation...

Seriously?
If this is a scam, the guy popping champagne right now.
If it's not, he'll have a problem with uneven distribution.

[Nullu]

Another 29 BTC donation...

Seriously?
If this is a scam, the guy popping champagne right now.
If it's not, he'll have a problem with uneven distribution.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the original IPO set a limit of the maximum amount of BTC you could invest?

[markn]

A website and logo means nothing on its own.  It takes 5 mins and a few dollars to set up which anyone can do.

There is no point contacting cryptocoincharts or creating marketing material if there is nothing to back it up.

We need to see the whitepaper and some techinal progress/development work.  Then we can evaluate if this is a serious project.

When will the whitepaper be ready?

we saw this many times before - Xencoin, Paycoin and many others - people are able to make everything for money - they made nice webste (here they even didnot bother to make one) http://www.paycoin.co/, http://www.icobank.com/ linkedin  twitter, facebook accounts on fabricated developer,
but at that time they must have to sold as many premined coins as they could, promising new bank, exchange, etc
now they just shout IPO, and people send BTC without asking.
at first I was interestd but now when everyday arise new thread to offer "real" VSC with new address where to send BTC... ask yourself whether you dont pay for someones evening party.
or ask yourself, what could stop these people to go away with your btc when nothing has been done yet and they publicly admit it?
many people visit this forum through Tor or at least VPN!! and I bet it will be also all people conected with this " VSC IPO offer" and finally nobody even Admin cannot help you to identify these people.

I lost 30 LTC in LTC-wallet scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=176637.0
And who knows, perhaps they didnot intend to scam at the beginning but in the end they were gone with tens of thousands LTC from web wallet
Of course, he communicated only through Tor, swept all traces... website was registered and operated through some VPN.....
Many people lost much momey, they filled criminal offenses in US but unfortunately I would bet the guy is still alive healthy and lucky with all the money....
and of course he must be very lucky because at that time LTC was abou $2...... so ..... I can only blame myself and wish him unpleasant death but that is all I can do about it

I also lost some 20 LTC in https://phenixex.com The guy just suddenly stopped working on projects due to some unspecifeid problems. I still believe he was honest but was unable to handle all duties. I dont wish him anything bad however ...... He was communicating however never returned the money.   And all this was functioning and working projects.... here you have only promises

Think of your "investment", when in one year 1 BTC could be $10,000, these guys could have nice condos at Bahamas thanks to your generosity

Here it is the same, they might have big plans but in case they are not able to make even a website, it is bunch of amateurs and who knows how many people have access to BTC which were collected
They might have good intentions but they could be robbed or things can go wrong very easily....

what would you do at their place when they are apparently very confused + without developers, unresponsive + are not even capable of making a list in excel of people who sent their money to pay their NewYear's celebration
they could at least to say thank you all but they didnot bother.........

In this world many people apparently dont like their money, perhaps they print them in the basement so they eagerily support scammers, believe in false promises, it is a question whether people who put their money without asking to obvious scam shouldnot be also somehow punished......

make your own decision dont listen to me

[eagleEye]

visacoin, I sent 1,200 BTCs  reply PMs!!!

return my investigation to this address: 14rnPyFaV5KT93ZV72RJeJMNXEUrsyuoC3

not more interested in viscaoin investigation, i need the btcs sent you

[Nagath]

29BTC to this scam?
How can someone be so retarded?
GG to OP, nice scam

[candelone]

This is a SCAM. I ask Visacoin to send me my 2BTC back. He didn't respond to my mail. So my 2BTC are gone and it is the prof. This is a SCAM!!!


SCAM

[wizzardTim]

He surely does not reply often. But this does not mean that it's a scam..

Even if initially it was a scam, the developer may create this coin, in order to gain more. And why not?

[candelone]

He surely does not reply often. But this does not mean that it's a scam..

Even if initially it was a scam, the developer may create this coin, in order to gain more. And why not?

You are a part of this scam?

[wizzardTim]

He surely does not reply often. But this does not mean that it's a scam..

Even if initially it was a scam, the developer may create this coin, in order to gain more. And why not?

You are a part of this scam?

Of course not. I invested in it.

[kdrop22]

Can you publish whitepaper.

[utopianfuture]

He surely does not reply often. But this does not mean that it's a scam..

Even if initially it was a scam, the developer may create this coin, in order to gain more. And why not?

such a wishful thinking. 

[Sharky444]

All donated BTCs are in given account 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb still. Fund has not gone away. May be, it is not scam, and we just wait for dev appearance.

I would suggest people to be smart not only invest for a few words.

For Nxt this did work...

Nxt had an alpha client to show. All the new POS scam showing up have only a name/logo to show and nothing else whatsoever.

[qbd1313]

This is a SCAM. I have sent you 0.63 BTC
I have PM you 4 mails
but you didn't respond to my mail


https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/5ca6a49ac280f0d19cc557f492fa03c1b0194fa9bdfbfa1cb9184f20b001976f

give back me money

SCAM

[2Kool4Skewl]

Please, don't send these scammers any of your hard-earned money.

[instacalm]

Warning


Greed, Delusion, Insanity.

Sorry for everybody who fell for this joke. Seriously though, how could you?

[mercury]

Can't believe that people still send money to the address.  
https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
Thought it could be Mr  visaCon himself trying to give some liquidity  
I guess if somenone bothers to track the addresses he could possibly  find out

[candelone]

This is a SCAM. I ask Visacoin to send me my 2BTC back. He didn't respond to my mail. So my 2BTC are gone and it is the prof. This is a SCAM!!!


SCAM

I will return to you,But not just yet
Give me your address

1MJqHf4scwNJttsJgBq55tqYDF7nM8ASkQ

Please hurry up to safe your reputation!!!

[black_swan]

This is a SCAM. I ask Visacoin to send me my 2BTC back. He didn't respond to my mail. So my 2BTC are gone and it is the prof. This is a SCAM!!!


SCAM

I will return to you,But not just yet
Give me your address

We are waiting for the "in 2 weeks" !
Please do it for all of us waiting to have a big laugh at all the greedy who sent you money
ahahah

[candelone]

This is a SCAM. I ask Visacoin to send me my 2BTC back. He didn't respond to my mail. So my 2BTC are gone and it is the prof. This is a SCAM!!!


SCAM

I will return to you,But not just yet
Give me your address

We are waiting for the "in 2 weeks" !
Please do it for all of us waiting to have a big laugh at all the greedy who sent you money
ahahah

with a better reputation, visacoin funding could have more success. So: send me my money back and all would be win.

[Coinsy]

This is a SCAM. I ask Visacoin to send me my 2BTC back. He didn't respond to my mail. So my 2BTC are gone and it is the prof. This is a SCAM!!!


SCAM

I will return to you,But not just yet
Give me your address

We are waiting for the "in 2 weeks" !
Please do it for all of us waiting to have a big laugh at all the greedy who sent you money
ahahah

with a better reputation, visacoin funding could have more success. So: send me my money back and all would be win.

Funding is going just fine.

[Bfljosh]

So this is like a BTC HYIP?

Can we please stop these scams?

[Woaibit]

Visacoin,

Below is the PM I sent to you about my BTC transaction to you. Now I want all my BTC back. 2.0499BTC totally, I have every right to require you to return my money back. Thank you.

Visacoin,

My information is as below:

Name of Bitcointalk - Woaibit
BTC Address - 13tpSV7kNj3x9RdaiSYNT1CijU9Cnr1FG1
Amount - 2.0499
Hash - 6796b4462fa9fd4e5d3dc37b1fd5974dfdbe1ecd99d0d2eb690dac2d4380ee2d

Please confirm.

confirm
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing#gid=0

[DGulari]

Warning
Greed, Delusion, Insanity.
Sorry for everybody who fell for this joke. Seriously though, how could you?

A fool and his money will soon be parting.  What an idiot.  Did you see the white paper?  It should be called "white wash".  There is nothing technical in there.  Junk.  

People who buy this are insane.  They see the awesome project at Mastercoin and they want in on the ground floor.  So they quickly jump into this garbage which is made to look like Mastercoin from its name down.  But the OP doesn't even bother with any technical details.  So, get rich quick people throw money at it.  

Visacoin is a Raging Scam which will produce nothing but tears.  Already has!

If you want to invest in a real project and make real money just go to: mcoin.io and buy some Mastercoin while it is still cheap and available.  It will be worth 3X by the end of the year.  That is a real project with a real plan and real developers building a great system.

[newsilike]

As I sent you BTC I agreed with the means of the distribution.
And now you want to suddenly change it?
That's ridiculous.

[trackpantsboner]

Where is a link to the "whitepaper" ?

I need a good laugh.

[MsCollec]

Hey all investors
Contact me to insure your investment in Bitland,  Visacoin,  Aerocoin and Verocoin. I have the perfect plan that will cover your loss in case something bad happened to the developers.
More details coming soon.

[sharecoin]

You guys should have realized this was a scam long ago when he was confronted by the copyright claim that would be made against him for the name being visa coin. When this issue was brought up he brushed it aside saying it didn't matter this should have cemented the fact that he was not looking in the longer term and only looking to scam you all quick for some easy BTC. For anyone that would like to invest in an actual innovative digital currency with proof look at my new digital currency that doubles as a stock option at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=399375.0 I will be happy to answer any questions you may have and be as upfront as possible about the investment point and the allocation of the coin.

[GröBkAz]

Hey all investors
Contact me to insure your investment in Bitland,  Visacoin,  Aerocoin and Verocoin. I have the perfect plan that will cover your loss in case something bad happened to the developers.
More details coming soon.

Scam of the scam? I think the money is gone and nothing will bring them back.

[Nullu]

Hey all investors
Contact me to insure your investment in Bitland,  Visacoin,  Aerocoin and Verocoin. I have the perfect plan that will cover your loss in case something bad happened to the developers.
More details coming soon.

Scam of the scam? I think the money is gone and nothing will bring them back.

Scam Insurance.

Spot the subtle double meaning.

[GröBkAz]

I think the Visacoin guy is surprised How effectiv his scam works 

[Come-from-Beyond]

I think the Visacoin guy is surprised How effectiv his scam works 

With a whitepaper he would collect 4000 BTC.

[GröBkAz]

Is there a posibility for legal consequences to Visacoin?

[GröBkAz]

I think the Visacoin guy is surprised How effectiv his scam works 

With a whitepaper he would collect 4000 BTC.

Oh no:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=399837.0

[Come-from-Beyond]

I think the Visacoin guy is surprised How effectiv his scam works 

With a whitepaper he would collect 4000 BTC.

Oh no:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=399837.0

Wow, this guy is serious!

[instacalm]

Is there a posibility for legal consequences to Visacoin?

Sending your BTC to Visacoin is the equivalent of burning money or throwing it in the sea, in other words: no, the possibility of legal consequences are very low due to the anonymity. Any BTC thrown at this is gone with the wind.

Yes that's not nice and unacceptable, but it will be a lesson to everyone involved. Seriously, it is still beyond me how anyone could honestly invest money in this, it's just too delusional for me to grasp.

[Nullu]

I think the Visacoin guy is surprised How effectiv his scam works 

With a whitepaper he would collect 4000 BTC.

Oh no:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=399837.0

Is that a white paper or a ransom note?

[GröBkAz]

Is there a posibility for legal consequences to Visacoin?

Sending your BTC to Visacoin is the equivalent of burning money or throwing it in the sea, in other words: no, the possibility of legal consequences are very low due to the anonymity. Any BTC thrown at this is gone with the wind.

Yes that's not nice and unacceptable, but it will be a lesson to everyone involved. Seriously, it is still beyond me how anyone could honestly invest money in this, it's just too delusional for me to grasp.

Perhaps he is not clever enough to use Tor?

[Sampey]

People, if you pay BTC for this shit, you deserve to lose money. 

[mercury]

quote from the whitepaper 
 "If you think it's not worth your adventure,please far away,as far as possible."

No comment...

[Coinsy]

There's enough money into this project now to make a protocol that's beyond great. It's just a matter of Visacoin's competence and whether or not he can hire on the right talent for the job. For starters, I highly recommend a dev with strong English writing ability. The OP might very well be a smart guy in his native language, but to outsiders it comes off as childish and a tad shady. A lot of the requests OP has received he has responded to, but his ability to communicate and ensure strangers' trust is lacking.

[sharecoin]

quote from the whitepaper 
 "If you think it's not worth your adventure,please far away,as far as possible."

No comment...

Lol I might read the whole whitepaper for a good laugh.

[cryptoirc]

Ok I was joking the first few times, but seriously, people are still sending money?

[candelone]

Please send me my 2BTC back!!!

1MJqHf4scwNJttsJgBq55tqYDF7nM8ASkQ

[instacalm]

There's enough money into this project now to make a protocol that's beyond great. It's just a matter of Visacoin's competence and whether or not he can hire on the right talent for the job. For starters, I highly recommend a dev with strong English writing ability. The OP might very well be a smart guy in his native language, but to outsiders it comes off as childish and a tad shady. A lot of the requests OP has received he has responded to, but his ability to communicate and ensure strangers' trust is lacking.

I almost fell from my chair reading this comedy  

edit:

quote from the whitepaper 
 "If you think it's not worth your adventure,please far away,as far as possible."

No comment...

Now this is the cherry on top!

[eagleEye]

Plese, return my investigation!!

I Sent 20 BTC investigated, please return to here ==> 14rnPyFaV5KT93ZV72RJeJMNXEUrsyuoC3

much investigation, many pain

[Drexme]

It's embarrassing reading these comments insulting the OPs english.
It's clearly his second language.

If he were to do this in his native tongue, none of us would have donated any BTC.

We must be patient with him

[tk808]

Plese, return my investigation!!

I Sent 20 BTC investigated, please return to here ==> 14rnPyFaV5KT93ZV72RJeJMNXEUrsyuoC3

much investigation, many pain

You sent him 20,000 USD LOL

[wakasaki808]

Plese, return my investigation!!

I Sent 20 BTC investigated, please return to here ==> 14rnPyFaV5KT93ZV72RJeJMNXEUrsyuoC3

much investigation, many pain

You sent him 20,000 USD LOL

nah. The guy does it in every thread lol...go look at all the IPO threads, he posts the exact same stuff.

[tk808]

Plese, return my investigation!!

I Sent 20 BTC investigated, please return to here ==> 14rnPyFaV5KT93ZV72RJeJMNXEUrsyuoC3

much investigation, many pain

You sent him 20,000 USD LOL

nah. The guy does it in every thread lol...go look at all the IPO threads, he posts the exact same stuff.

Oh alright, because 2 people did send over 20btc to supply this heist

[Coinsy]

There's enough money into this project now to make a protocol that's beyond great. It's just a matter of Visacoin's competence and whether or not he can hire on the right talent for the job. For starters, I highly recommend a dev with strong English writing ability. The OP might very well be a smart guy in his native language, but to outsiders it comes off as childish and a tad shady. A lot of the requests OP has received he has responded to, but his ability to communicate and ensure strangers' trust is lacking.

I almost fell from my chair reading this comedy  

What's funny about it?

[wizzardTim]

With the amount of BTC gathered, everyone would hire competent devs and make it succeed + maximizing profit!

[crunchynut]

With the amount of BTC gathered, everyone would hire competent devs and make it succeed + maximizing profit!

i know some people who would hire some competent hookers from this money.

[utopianfuture]

With the amount of BTC gathered, everyone would hire competent devs and make it succeed + maximizing profit!

i know some people who would hire some competent hookers from this money.

this makes more sense.

[2Kool4Skewl]

Stop investing in this crap.

Go purchase some Nxt.  It's released.  It's legit.  It's still very cheap.

[trackpantsboner]

"with VSC you can buy a piece of KFC with 1 grams of gold made from 1's and 0's and show it to you friend on Skype on opposite side of world"


This is from the shite paper, I kid you not.

[tk808]

OP is in the Bahamas soaking up some sun, with hookers. He wanted to thank you all for your generous donations

[sharecoin]

"with VSC you can buy a piece of KFC with 1 grams of gold made from 1's and 0's and show it to you friend on Skype on opposite side of world"


This is from the shite paper, I kid you not.

.... what's that even supposed to mean? LOL this currency is a bigger joke then the meme doge coin is based on!

[microlost]

This is a SCAM. I ask Visacoin to send me my 2BTC back. He didn't respond to my mail. So my 2BTC are gone and it is the prof. This is a SCAM!!!


SCAM

I will return to you,But not just yet
Give me your address

Please return my 0.3462228 BTC back.you had said that the second period just for 51st-100th investors when I send BTC to you,and then you change your mind,so do I. I think my request is reasonable. Anyway, I have the right to take back my money, isn't it?

1JVBXsegsJfn8iGM3uCbQHKM3vHv933XZh

[qbd1313]

This is a SCAM. I have sent you 0.63 BTC
I have PM you 4 mails
but you didn't respond to my mail


https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/5ca6a49ac280f0d19cc557f492fa03c1b0194fa9bdfbfa1cb9184f20b001976f

give back me money

SCAM

[trackpantsboner]

You could tell just by the slogan on the logo this was a rort.

[forkedchain]

Hello, I need to cancel out of your IPO.  Please refund my .995 BTC to 1MShXZniz7rrCy2BSDXMGLJjMajj7B5tyk

My transactionID to send .995 BTC to you was ac1da4f359a9e7175c9374ebd06db70539a2894f9b7860e7d904d8ec0fdb1ec9

Im sorry I cannot participate,
Thanks, forkedchain

[Coinsy]

You all realize that you're not supposed to get your donations back in a fundraiser IPO, right? That's not how it works.

[MadCow]

I think you need to change the distribution of the coins. At the moment you are giving a huge windfall to the first 50 people at the expense of the others who are basically taking the same chance as the first 50. Why not just make it an even, gradual, sliding scale for everyone who contributes until the IPO closes. How does the guy at place 51 feel now? Pissed off, and he supported you just as much. Just make it one sliding scale for ALL IPO contributors.

As for whether this is a scam or not, it sounds as ridiculous as NXT did, and that has made millionaires. It's a bet on an unknown, just like NXT was. The obvious difference is with the language barrier for the Visacoin guy using english. His brain might be just as interesting as BCNext's.

The original NXT client BCNext showed was some sort of selling point, but it definitely didn't scream coinmarketcap top 10 in a couple of weeks.

Anyone who missed out on the NXT genesis block and believes the NXT stakeholders are greedy or undeserving should send this guy 1 bitcoin now. If not, they should accept that their tolerance for gambling is lower than those who did. You can't have it both ways. NXT and Visacoin smell the same at the same stage (i.e. COULD be a giant scam)

[ireneang]

Hi, After reading your white paper, I decided to cancel my investment to your IPO. Please kindly refund my 2.5 BTC to 13gVWinUNnqAEDrnEDLwjeVPoLet4K8CBL.

Here is transaction informations:
https://blockchain.info/tx/82f38f6c0d9124cce5a8904a9bd08d82d9cbad54719817e48a002f03b7a95012
https://blockchain.info/tx/2361a425c53805f7d6707bc99b8cf220ede65d1905855f87f1ebd56358ea609b

Please accept my deep apology for being not able to participate.

Thanks, Irene Ang

[ireneang]

You all realize that you're not supposed to get your donations back in a fundraiser IPO, right? That's not how it works.

Please also realize that once an IPO has started, the content for IPO proposal, especially for the how the rewards/benefits will be allocated to the investors, cannot be changed. But the Visacoin developer has been changing it, and now even in the white paper, it is stated that they may change the coin allocation method.
That's not how it works!

[relm9]

I think you need to change the distribution of the coins. At the moment you are giving a huge windfall to the first 50 people at the expense of the others who are basically taking the same chance as the first 50. Why not just make it an even, gradual, sliding scale for everyone who contributes until the IPO closes. How does the guy at place 51 feel now? Pissed off, and he supported you just as much. Just make it one sliding scale for ALL IPO contributors.

As for whether this is a scam or not, it sounds as ridiculous as NXT did, and that has made millionaires. It's a bet on an unknown, just like NXT was. The obvious difference is with the language barrier for the Visacoin guy using english. His brain might be just as interesting as BCNext's.

The original NXT client BCNext showed was some sort of selling point, but it definitely didn't scream coinmarketcap top 10 in a couple of weeks.

Anyone who missed out on the NXT genesis block and believes the NXT stakeholders are greedy or undeserving should send this guy 1 bitcoin now. If not, they should accept that their tolerance for gambling is lower than those who did. You can't have it both ways. NXT and Visacoin smell the same at the same stage (i.e. COULD be a giant scam)

It doesn't 'smell' the same as NXT. Not by a long shot. BCNext at least shared technical details, this VisaCoin guy just keeps spouting PR-drivel about how his coin is so easy to use with no real data to back it up. I realize English isn't his first language, but looking past that, he really hasn't said anything worthwhile if you dig into all his posts so far.

Also, I doubt any refunds will be sent out. People have asked earlier and he never responded. He's ignored almost all the skeptics as well. This is looking more and more like a massive scam.

[Lugren]

Hi! After reading your white paper, I decided to cancel my investment to your IPO. Please refund my 0.2 BTC

BTC Address: 1NGtzspBQkkdFBmtw3WEJ3o3KWpNXJHM3T
Transaction ID: 04d8824bf02eb3834add9be0932c33849573e04ac50278daf1649260384daaa4

Thanks

[instacalm]

Hi! After reading your white paper, I decided to cancel my investment to your IPO. Please refund my 0.2 BTC

BTC Address: 1NGtzspBQkkdFBmtw3WEJ3o3KWpNXJHM3T
Transaction ID: 04d8824bf02eb3834add9be0932c33849573e04ac50278daf1649260384daaa4

Thanks

It is very unlikely that refunds will be send out, the sole purpose of this thread/scam is meant to collect BTC.

Begin accepting that those 0.2 BTC are unfortunately, very likely lost. The OP scammed ~$139880 in total...

[zhangdu]

i don't know if you are really try making a new coin, it not a matter. but if someone want quit the project then you must send back his BTC. that's human being should to do.

[btc24]

 Ok, I think it was not originally designed as scam. But now OP with very limited talents have no option. They will do some efforts to make the coin happen by hiring low-qualified programmers and will run away with money once they understand that this coin is doomed from the very beginning. Hopefully, they are not smart enough to wipe all traces so scamholders can find the OP and ask for refund.
 

[Woaibit]

Again, I want my BTC back, return them by today, thanks!

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/8492/kxcp.jpg


Visacoin,

Below is the PM I sent to you about my BTC transaction to you. Now I want all my BTC back. 2.0499BTC totally, I have every right to require you to return my money back. Thank you.

Visacoin,

My information is as below:

Name of Bitcointalk - Woaibit
BTC Address - 13tpSV7kNj3x9RdaiSYNT1CijU9Cnr1FG1
Amount - 2.0499
Hash - 6796b4462fa9fd4e5d3dc37b1fd5974dfdbe1ecd99d0d2eb690dac2d4380ee2d

Please confirm.

confirm
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing#gid=0

[Hazard]

You think this scammer is going to return your BTC? You are an idiot.

[Woaibit]

If I can't get my BTC back, no one will donate it again, I promise. Our team have tracked this guys' IP, we are working with police to arrest him. This is the biggest defraud case in Bitcoin world!!!

[Nullu]

"with VSC you can buy a piece of KFC with 1 grams of gold made from 1's and 0's and show it to you friend on Skype on opposite side of world"


This is from the shite paper, I kid you not.

.... what's that even supposed to mean? LOL this currency is a bigger joke then the meme doge coin is based on!

Today you can skillfully use skype, twitter and facebook, but you hardly can imagine that you control the tube switch and show your distant friends that you buy a KFC drumstick by one gram of gold with 0 and 1

I wanted this quoted word for word in my post history for sheer epicness. I really want people to digest that and bask in its genius.

[Buratino]

In next time for other projects we should demand OP deanonymization or escrow to prevent SCAM.

[Coinsy]

If I can't get my BTC back, no one will donate it again, I promise. Our team have tracked this guys' IP, we are working with police to arrest him. This is the biggest defraud case in Bitcoin world!!!

Arrest him for what?

[Buratino]

Today you can skillfully use skype, twitter and facebook, but you hardly can imagine that you control the tube switch and show your distant friends that you buy a KFC drumstick by one gram of gold with 0 and 1

Can you rewrite this sentence in proper English? (not for OP)

[Nullu]

Today you can skillfully use skype, twitter and facebook, but you hardly can imagine that you control the tube switch and show your distant friends that you buy a KFC drumstick by one gram of gold with 0 and 1

Can you rewrite this sentence in proper English? (not for OP)

Today's generation of internet users can use Skype with ease, as with Twitter and Facebook. It's hard to imagine, however, that now with those same friends you can systematically prove and demonstrate a purchase of a KFC meal with cryptographic currency, which all equates to nothing more than binary machine code.

Shouldn't really be doing this guy any favours. I'm not a translator.

[superresistant]

LOL I can't believe so many people felt for this scam despite the fact that all experienced users warned about this.
The white paper is hi-la-rious  
Visacoin is one of the best scammer I ever seen in Cryptocurrency : he pretends to be dumb and write hilarious bullshit but still get tons of BTC.
$100K wow happy new year !

[Come-from-Beyond]

incredible, some people are still sending money

They pay for a hope to become rich. It's worth the spent bitcoins.

[Coinsy]

You all realize that you're not supposed to get your donations back in a fundraiser IPO, right? That's not how it works.

Please also realize that once an IPO has started, the content for IPO proposal, especially for the how the rewards/benefits will be allocated to the investors, cannot be changed. But the Visacoin developer has been changing it, and now even in the white paper, it is stated that they may change the coin allocation method.
That's not how it works!

He really shouldn't, but he can do whatever he wants so long as he creates the software. That's the risk you take with these IPOs.

[ireneang]

You all realize that you're not supposed to get your donations back in a fundraiser IPO, right? That's not how it works.

Please also realize that once an IPO has started, the content for IPO proposal, especially for the how the rewards/benefits will be allocated to the investors, cannot be changed. But the Visacoin developer has been changing it, and now even in the white paper, it is stated that they may change the coin allocation method.
That's not how it works!

He really shouldn't, but he can do whatever he wants so long as he creates the software. That's the risk you take with these IPOs.

I really shouldn't request Visacoin for refund, but I can do whatever I want so long as he breaks the IPO rules. That's the risk Visacoin takes with these irresponsible actions.

Last but not least, I have to warn Visacoin and his partners. If you really think no one can track and trace your internet IP address with your BTC address, you really underestimate the capability of our Chinese friends.

[Coinsy]

You all realize that you're not supposed to get your donations back in a fundraiser IPO, right? That's not how it works.

Please also realize that once an IPO has started, the content for IPO proposal, especially for the how the rewards/benefits will be allocated to the investors, cannot be changed. But the Visacoin developer has been changing it, and now even in the white paper, it is stated that they may change the coin allocation method.
That's not how it works!

He really shouldn't, but he can do whatever he wants so long as he creates the software. That's the risk you take with these IPOs.

I really shouldn't request Visacoin for refund, but I can do whatever I want so long as he breaks the IPO rules. That's the risk Visacoin takes with these irresponsible actions.

Last but not least, I have to warn Visacoin and his partners. If you really think no one can track and trace your internet IP address with your BTC address, you really underestimate the capability of our Chinese friends.

Awesome, well I hope it works out and makes Visacoin more accountable with this project.

[GigaCoin]

Worst white paper ever created, it's just a copy paste of the first post  

I told everyone from the start you have no one but yourself to blame, don't even blame visacoin.

[tk808]

If I can't get my BTC back, no one will donate it again, I promise. Our team have tracked this guys' IP, we are working with police to arrest him. This is the biggest defraud case in Bitcoin world!!!

Arrest him for what?

A lot of us have been trying to warn you people about all these IPO scams.

Digital Currencies are not protected by the FTC federal trade commission. There is no government who can protect you from heists. This is BTC nature, no one protects you but yourself.

[niothor]

If I can't get my BTC back, no one will donate it again, I promise. Our team have tracked this guys' IP, we are working with police to arrest him. This is the biggest defraud case in Bitcoin world!!!

Arrest him for what?

A lot of us have been trying to warn you people about all these IPO scams.

Digital Currencies are not protected by the FTC federal trade commission. There is no government who can protect you from heists. This is BTC nature, no one protects you but yourself.

Are joking or what?
A scam is a scam , a theft is a theft.

pirate40 ?

[niothor]

You all realize that you're not supposed to get your donations back in a fundraiser IPO, right? That's not how it works.

Please also realize that once an IPO has started, the content for IPO proposal, especially for the how the rewards/benefits will be allocated to the investors, cannot be changed. But the Visacoin developer has been changing it, and now even in the white paper, it is stated that they may change the coin allocation method.
That's not how it works!

He really shouldn't, but he can do whatever he wants so long as he creates the software. That's the risk you take with these IPOs.

I really shouldn't request Visacoin for refund, but I can do whatever I want so long as he breaks the IPO rules. That's the risk Visacoin takes with these irresponsible actions.

Last but not least, I have to warn Visacoin and his partners. If you really think no one can track and trace your internet IP address with your BTC address, you really underestimate the capability of our Chinese friends.

Why not doing it now?
You can make another user and re-submit the amount if he indeed refunds you!

BUT , you won't see a penny!

[instacalm]

LOL I can't believe so many people felt for this scam despite the fact that all experienced users warned about this.
The white paper is hi-la-rious  
Visacoin is one of the best scammer I ever seen in Cryptocurrency : he pretends to be dumb and write hilarious bullshit but still get tons of BTC.
$43000 wow happy new year !

$43000?
He scammed $130000 so far

Incredible. Seems like it came to a halt now, though.

[tk808]

If I can't get my BTC back, no one will donate it again, I promise. Our team have tracked this guys' IP, we are working with police to arrest him. This is the biggest defraud case in Bitcoin world!!!

Arrest him for what?

A lot of us have been trying to warn you people about all these IPO scams.

Digital Currencies are not protected by the FTC federal trade commission. There is no government who can protect you from heists. This is BTC nature, no one protects you but yourself.

Are joking or what?
A scam is a scam , a theft is a theft.

pirate40 ?

Theft of what? YOU ARE SENDING BTC to a known risk. There is no theft of BTC. I think you mean a SCAM, in which case, there is nothing you can do about it.

I think they call that, being an idiot.

[niothor]

If I can't get my BTC back, no one will donate it again, I promise. Our team have tracked this guys' IP, we are working with police to arrest him. This is the biggest defraud case in Bitcoin world!!!

Arrest him for what?

A lot of us have been trying to warn you people about all these IPO scams.

Digital Currencies are not protected by the FTC federal trade commission. There is no government who can protect you from heists. This is BTC nature, no one protects you but yourself.

Are joking or what?
A scam is a scam , a theft is a theft.

pirate40 ?

Theft of what? YOU ARE SENDING BTC to a known risk. There is no theft of BTC. I think you mean a SCAM, in which case, there is nothing you can do about it.

I think they call that, being an idiot.

By any law on this damn earth , this is called a scam.
And of course , only idiots fall for a scam , that's a pleonasm.

[tk808]

If I can't get my BTC back, no one will donate it again, I promise. Our team have tracked this guys' IP, we are working with police to arrest him. This is the biggest defraud case in Bitcoin world!!!

Arrest him for what?

A lot of us have been trying to warn you people about all these IPO scams.

Digital Currencies are not protected by the FTC federal trade commission. There is no government who can protect you from heists. This is BTC nature, no one protects you but yourself.

Are joking or what?
A scam is a scam , a theft is a theft.

pirate40 ?

Theft of what? YOU ARE SENDING BTC to a known risk. There is no theft of BTC. I think you mean a SCAM, in which case, there is nothing you can do about it.

I think they call that, being an idiot.

By any law on this damn earth , this is called a scam.
And of course , only idiots fall for a scam , that's a pleonasm.

Scam is different than theft, www.dictionary.com

It''s no different then giving your credit card information to buy something.
In this scenario, actions can be taken to retract your money, via centralized agencies.

With BTC, no one is protecting you but yourself. People willingly send BTC to this shit.

[niothor]

If I can't get my BTC back, no one will donate it again, I promise. Our team have tracked this guys' IP, we are working with police to arrest him. This is the biggest defraud case in Bitcoin world!!!

Arrest him for what?

A lot of us have been trying to warn you people about all these IPO scams.

Digital Currencies are not protected by the FTC federal trade commission. There is no government who can protect you from heists. This is BTC nature, no one protects you but yourself.

Are joking or what?
A scam is a scam , a theft is a theft.

pirate40 ?

Theft of what? YOU ARE SENDING BTC to a known risk. There is no theft of BTC. I think you mean a SCAM, in which case, there is nothing you can do about it.

I think they call that, being an idiot.

By any law on this damn earth , this is called a scam.
And of course , only idiots fall for a scam , that's a pleonasm.

Exactly, it's no different then giving your credit card information to buy something.
In this scenario, actions can be taken to retract your money, via centralized agencies.

With BTC, no one is protecting you but yourself. People willingly send BTC to this shit.

You really need to read a bit more about laws. No offense , please !

[tk808]

If I can't get my BTC back, no one will donate it again, I promise. Our team have tracked this guys' IP, we are working with police to arrest him. This is the biggest defraud case in Bitcoin world!!!

Arrest him for what?

A lot of us have been trying to warn you people about all these IPO scams.

Digital Currencies are not protected by the FTC federal trade commission. There is no government who can protect you from heists. This is BTC nature, no one protects you but yourself.

Are joking or what?
A scam is a scam , a theft is a theft.

pirate40 ?

Theft of what? YOU ARE SENDING BTC to a known risk. There is no theft of BTC. I think you mean a SCAM, in which case, there is nothing you can do about it.

I think they call that, being an idiot.

By any law on this damn earth , this is called a scam.
And of course , only idiots fall for a scam , that's a pleonasm.

Exactly, it's no different then giving your credit card information to buy something.
In this scenario, actions can be taken to retract your money, via centralized agencies.

With BTC, no one is protecting you but yourself. People willingly send BTC to this shit.

You really need to read a bit more about laws. No offense , please !

You need to read more about Bitcoins and decentralization.

[niothor]

You need to read more about Bitcoins and decentralization.

You need indeed to read more about bitcoin and not alts.

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[Coinsy]

You all need to realize that nothing fraudulent has happened yet. I understand the disdain for Visacoin's output of quality work thus far, but it is an output of work nonetheless. Just because you're dissatisfied doesn't entitle you to a return of a donation. Visacoin may honor it, but in doing so he alters the entire layout of the IPO and the allocation of VSC. If your donation remains in the IPO and the project moves forward there is nothing fraudulent about the process.

[niothor]

You all need to realize that nothing fraudulent has happened yet. I understand the disdain for Visacoin's output of quality work thus far, but it is an output of work nonetheless. Just because you're dissatisfied doesn't entitle you to a return of a donation. Visacoin may honor it, but in doing so he alters the entire layout of the IPO and the allocation of VSC. If your donation remains in the IPO and the project moves forward there is nothing fraudulent about the process.

Something worst has happened.

Some bad government killed all the brain cells of a few users on this forum.!!!!!!!

[Coinsy]

You all need to realize that nothing fraudulent has happened yet. I understand the disdain for Visacoin's output of quality work thus far, but it is an output of work nonetheless. Just because you're dissatisfied doesn't entitle you to a return of a donation. Visacoin may honor it, but in doing so he alters the entire layout of the IPO and the allocation of VSC. If your donation remains in the IPO and the project moves forward there is nothing fraudulent about the process.

Something worst has happened.

Some bad government killed all the brain cells of a few users on this forum.!!!!!!!

Something worst?

[niothor]

You all need to realize that nothing fraudulent has happened yet. I understand the disdain for Visacoin's output of quality work thus far, but it is an output of work nonetheless. Just because you're dissatisfied doesn't entitle you to a return of a donation. Visacoin may honor it, but in doing so he alters the entire layout of the IPO and the allocation of VSC. If your donation remains in the IPO and the project moves forward there is nothing fraudulent about the process.

Something worst has happened.

Some bad government killed all the brain cells of a few users on this forum.!!!!!!!

Something worst?

I deleted and typed an answer so many times I made mess of it =)))
Worse , there you have it.

[Buratino]

Today you can skillfully use skype, twitter and facebook, but you hardly can imagine that you control the tube switch and show your distant friends that you buy a KFC drumstick by one gram of gold with 0 and 1

Can you rewrite this sentence in proper English? (not for OP)

Today's generation of internet users can use Skype with ease, as with Twitter and Facebook. It's hard to imagine, however, that now with those same friends you can systematically prove and demonstrate a purchase of a KFC meal with cryptographic currency, which all equates to nothing more than binary machine code.

Shouldn't really be doing this guy any favours. I'm not a translator.

Thanks. I see difference.
Why does OP keep silence? Did he reply anyone in PM?

[black_swan]

Today you can skillfully use skype, twitter and facebook, but you hardly can imagine that you control the tube switch and show your distant friends that you buy a KFC drumstick by one gram of gold with 0 and 1

Can you rewrite this sentence in proper English? (not for OP)

Today's generation of internet users can use Skype with ease, as with Twitter and Facebook. It's hard to imagine, however, that now with those same friends you can systematically prove and demonstrate a purchase of a KFC meal with cryptographic currency, which all equates to nothing more than binary machine code.

Shouldn't really be doing this guy any favours. I'm not a translator.

Thanks. I see difference.
Why does OP keep silence? Did he reply anyone in PM?

OP is not looking at the forum anymore
I heard he got a flight to Thailand and finally enjoy his retirement

[tk808]

Today you can skillfully use skype, twitter and facebook, but you hardly can imagine that you control the tube switch and show your distant friends that you buy a KFC drumstick by one gram of gold with 0 and 1

Can you rewrite this sentence in proper English? (not for OP)

Today's generation of internet users can use Skype with ease, as with Twitter and Facebook. It's hard to imagine, however, that now with those same friends you can systematically prove and demonstrate a purchase of a KFC meal with cryptographic currency, which all equates to nothing more than binary machine code.

Shouldn't really be doing this guy any favours. I'm not a translator.

Thanks. I see difference.
Why does OP keep silence? Did he reply anyone in PM?

OP is not looking at the forum anymore
I heard he got a flight to Thailand and finally enjoy his retirement

OP is laying on a sunny beach with margaritas and prostitutes

[Buratino]

OP is not looking at the forum anymore
I heard he got a flight to Thailand and finally enjoy his retirement

OP is laying on a sunny beach with margaritas and prostitutes

It is unlikely. Collected fund is located on OP address still. He didn't spend them yet.

[other_side]

Aerocoin is sending money to Visacoin.
Aerocoin addresses:
1EEvLuXGX4xqbdjzbjC3XnNHw2Qdt1JF4T
1ESnSft95kAyTgiYxwPSbAaPYnPPzq66LZ
18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs
Two transactions;
1) 18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs --> 1BNDN6vuynmncw78eqCrZdoDSycFCNuvuy -->
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
2) from previous
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 15M6Kaf7samKkXovyWTVeaL51XhhcHEub4 -->
1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

[tk808]

OP is not looking at the forum anymore
I heard he got a flight to Thailand and finally enjoy his retirement

OP is laying on a sunny beach with margaritas and prostitutes

It is unlikely. Collected fund is located on OP address still. He didn't spend them yet.

OP is using his bank first

[Coinsy]

Aerocoin is sending money to Visacoin.
Aerocoin addresses:
1EEvLuXGX4xqbdjzbjC3XnNHw2Qdt1JF4T
1ESnSft95kAyTgiYxwPSbAaPYnPPzq66LZ
18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs
Two transactions;
1) 18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs --> 1BNDN6vuynmncw78eqCrZdoDSycFCNuvuy -->
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
2) from previous
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 15M6Kaf7samKkXovyWTVeaL51XhhcHEub4 -->
1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

 

What do you think this means?

[Hazard]

Aerocoin is sending money to Visacoin.
Aerocoin addresses:
1EEvLuXGX4xqbdjzbjC3XnNHw2Qdt1JF4T
1ESnSft95kAyTgiYxwPSbAaPYnPPzq66LZ
18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs
Two transactions;
1) 18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs --> 1BNDN6vuynmncw78eqCrZdoDSycFCNuvuy -->
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
2) from previous
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 15M6Kaf7samKkXovyWTVeaL51XhhcHEub4 -->
1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

 

What do you think this means?

Do you have to have everything spelled out for you? Are you really this stupid?

[Coinsy]

Aerocoin is sending money to Visacoin.
Aerocoin addresses:
1EEvLuXGX4xqbdjzbjC3XnNHw2Qdt1JF4T
1ESnSft95kAyTgiYxwPSbAaPYnPPzq66LZ
18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs
Two transactions;
1) 18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs --> 1BNDN6vuynmncw78eqCrZdoDSycFCNuvuy -->
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
2) from previous
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 15M6Kaf7samKkXovyWTVeaL51XhhcHEub4 -->
1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

 

What do you think this means?

Do you have to have everything spelled out for you?

In this case, yep.

[nastybit]

Aerocoin is sending money to Visacoin.
Aerocoin addresses:
1EEvLuXGX4xqbdjzbjC3XnNHw2Qdt1JF4T
1ESnSft95kAyTgiYxwPSbAaPYnPPzq66LZ
18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs
Two transactions;
1) 18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs --> 1BNDN6vuynmncw78eqCrZdoDSycFCNuvuy -->
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
2) from previous
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 15M6Kaf7samKkXovyWTVeaL51XhhcHEub4 -->
1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

 

What do you think this means?

Do you have to have everything spelled out for you?

In this case, yep.

Seriously? It means that the same guy scammed twice and now he is moving money around, mixer next, sell on localbitcoins and here you go!

[wizzardTim]

Aerocoin is sending money to Visacoin.
Aerocoin addresses:
1EEvLuXGX4xqbdjzbjC3XnNHw2Qdt1JF4T
1ESnSft95kAyTgiYxwPSbAaPYnPPzq66LZ
18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs
Two transactions;
1) 18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs --> 1BNDN6vuynmncw78eqCrZdoDSycFCNuvuy -->
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
2) from previous
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 15M6Kaf7samKkXovyWTVeaL51XhhcHEub4 -->
1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

 

What do you think this means?

Do you have to have everything spelled out for you?

In this case, yep.

In could mean some things:
1) aero was a scam and decided to invest in vsc, believing its not a scam
2) aero has a secret agreement with vsc for designing the client, sharing code
3) aero and vsc is the same person, our money vanished in thin air
4) other things I couldnt think of (eg vsc is not a scam, since he would have taken the btc already from this account)

[tk808]

Aerocoin is sending money to Visacoin.
Aerocoin addresses:
1EEvLuXGX4xqbdjzbjC3XnNHw2Qdt1JF4T
1ESnSft95kAyTgiYxwPSbAaPYnPPzq66LZ
18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs
Two transactions;
1) 18wQNNgVP3Ky8XdobGnkc8xSfESXSRaLJs --> 1BNDN6vuynmncw78eqCrZdoDSycFCNuvuy -->
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb
2) from previous
16f28iJEVdxJzCKCsSiiDYU8JFAZgnMPiW --> 15M6Kaf7samKkXovyWTVeaL51XhhcHEub4 -->
1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb

 

What do you think this means?

Do you have to have everything spelled out for you?

In this case, yep.

Seriously? It means that the same guy scammed twice and now he is moving money around, mixer next, sell on localbitcoins and here you go!

Scammer who scammed invested in a Scammer who is scamming

A circle jerk of faggots and morons

[Woaibit]

Again, I want my BTC back, return them by today, thanks!

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/8492/kxcp.jpg


Visacoin,

Below is the PM I sent to you about my BTC transaction to you. Now I want all my BTC back. 2.0499BTC totally, I have every right to require you to return my money back. Thank you.

Visacoin,

My information is as below:

Name of Bitcointalk - Woaibit
BTC Address - 13tpSV7kNj3x9RdaiSYNT1CijU9Cnr1FG1
Amount - 2.0499
Hash - 6796b4462fa9fd4e5d3dc37b1fd5974dfdbe1ecd99d0d2eb690dac2d4380ee2d

Please confirm.

confirm
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing#gid=0

[MsCollec]

reserved

[Financisto]

Greetings!

I'm watching people suggesting escrow for a fundraising here.

Take a look at my list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276897.0

That may help to increase transparency using other people's coins.

Besides using (reliable/trusted) escrow (maybe more than one escrow "agent" in this case specifically) is good for the crypto coins community.

Just consider and think about it.

Cheers!

[ButchHashidy]

quick blacklist the address so they're less usable! 

[Woaibit]

Again, I want my BTC back, return them by today, thanks!

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/8492/kxcp.jpg


Visacoin,

Below is the PM I sent to you about my BTC transaction to you. Now I want all my BTC back. 2.0499BTC totally, I have every right to require you to return my money back. Thank you.

Visacoin,

My information is as below:

Name of Bitcointalk - Woaibit
BTC Address - 13tpSV7kNj3x9RdaiSYNT1CijU9Cnr1FG1
Amount - 2.0499
Hash - 6796b4462fa9fd4e5d3dc37b1fd5974dfdbe1ecd99d0d2eb690dac2d4380ee2d

Please confirm.

confirm
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing#gid=0

[myhoho]

100'000$ scam... <epic facepalm>.

[Buratino]

[VSC] Visacoin:Born for circulation scam--based on BTC-Gold Swindling out--Project start ends ! ! !

[Nullu]

Why is it that when one IPO goes quiet, another one suddenly springs up and becomes very active?

Not a pattern at all, I'm sure.

[eagleEye]

Sent much BTC coins to Visacoin, VisAcoin, Viscoin, Visncoin and Areocoin ..  where are such coins, so investigated?

[Buratino]

Why is it that when one IPO goes quiet, another one suddenly springs up and becomes very active?

Not a pattern at all, I'm sure.

What another one?

[Nullu]

Why is it that when one IPO goes quiet, another one suddenly springs up and becomes very active?

Not a pattern at all, I'm sure.

What another one?

Well, there are a few of these IPO schemes on the forum at the moment. All promising amazing things with nothing to show for it. I'm not going to promote them by naming them, but they're on the forum and doing pretty much the exact same thing.

[ashao1015]

After reading your white paper, I decided to cancel my investment to your IPO.
Please kindly refund my 0.1 BTC to 1EC3cNzHt7swsYc1ZDRqvRWdUefGseJqpU

Here is transaction informations:
https://blockchain.info/tx/2cb672995d3002410691b65b1adeb92eed254fc3404f4da48a05e1d4dd462208

Please accept my deep apology for being not able to participate.

Thanks

[btc1210]

I can't believe how successful these scams are.

Time to copy and paste this text, make a new thread on a new account and get another 100 BTC for literally nothing at all.

[AmericanBit]

hahaha how embarrassing...get a fucking clue people. An idiot and his money are soon parted. Asking to return bitcoins hahaha. Everyones just looking to get rich quick. Those times are over, youre going to have to work for it now. Everyones just sucking this guys balls while hes backdooring everyone...."oh i think you should change the name" "oh good idea, this is going to be awesome" delusions of grandeur ladies, delusions of grandeur

[niothor]

The guy has been active for the last two days but no posts.

He's probably laughing his ass out.

I'll make my list of persons who invested in those scams and wait till they give advice or talk about how knowledgeable they are again.
There is an idiot who invested in this and argued with me about how he's an investor and a trader and he know everything about bitcoin.


God , this will be so funnyyyyyy

[Buratino]

Is it possible to track Visacoin and force him to refund scammed investors?

[niothor]

Is it possible to track Visacoin and force him to refund scammed investors?

Track him down ? Possible!  Force him? 0.0001% chance.

[AmericanBit]

Please track him down and hurt him. If I found him I could think of some ways to force him.  Id beat him to death with a blade and stick USBs up his ass. See if I could mine it out of him...haha  The bitcoin community needs to make an example out of someone for gods sakes. And you fucking losers make it so there is big money in scams and so you just entice more scammers.

[GröBkAz]

Is it possible to track Visacoin and force him to refund scammed investors?

No, Of course not!

There are probability 50 investors from 50 different countries and Visa Coin enjoys his money in china.

Honestly, this guy strictly hasn't violate the law. There is certainly no rule which forbids a stupid business idea and stupid investors, which believe in this stupid idea.

It has to be acknowledged, that this guy can sell the pure shit for gold. Perhaps he would be a good insurance agent or a used-vehicle dealer.

[mr_random]

This (suspected) scam has only been successful because of the NXT phenomenon.

[niothor]

This (suspected) scam has only been successful because of the NXT phenomenon.

I think this is a better reason...

[tk808]

This (suspected) scam has only been successful because of the NXT phenomenon.

I think this is a better reason...

Made me laugh

[AmericanBit]

Investors Meeting For VisaCoin

[sprinkles]

This is all kind of sad...but funny too.

[Blueman666]

Anyone who puts money into scams like this should be prosecuted for aiding criminals. Fraud is a criminal offense.

[eagleEye]

Sent 100 BTC.

I never get tired of investigating in Visncoint !!

[leckey]

"with VSC you can buy a piece of KFC with 1 grams of gold made from 1's and 0's and show it to you friend on Skype on opposite side of world"


This is from the shite paper, I kid you not.

OMG I nearly died

[btc24]

I'm supersuspicios here... Looks like the most scammy scam.I hope it's not.

 I told you you told you told told you. I. Told. You.

[Buratino]

Mandatory requirements for next new IPOs:
1) IPO starter (team) self deanonymization - real name, contacts, profiles, etc. (may be, it's not needed - if escrow or warranties preferred)
2) Escrow with reliable service;
3) Proper white paper;
4) Money back for first demand.

[btc24]

Mandatory requirements for next new IPOs:
1) IPO starter (team) self deanonymization - real name, contacts, profiles, etc. (may be, it's not needed - if escrow or warranties preferred)
2) Escrow with reliable service;
3) Proper white paper;
4) Money back for first demand.

 Investors, please, just use your brain.

[cryptoirc]

This is still going on? Damn, this guy living in the middle of nowhere is going to be living it up for the rest of his life. Some people work for years to save $135000 and this guy got it for FREE just like that.

Well done investors.

[BiggestFish]

Now OP can buy as much KFC as he wants to show his friends on Skype on the other side of the world

[2Kool4Skewl]

ATTENTION

I hate seeing people get scammed.  There is really no reason for people to throw their money away on these scams.  Nxt is still extremely cheap.  If the investors here just took their money and bought some Nxt, they would have been much better off.

If you were an investor in this scam, send me a PM with your Nxt address and I will give you some Nxt.  It will take me a few days to get everyones' Nxt address and then I will send out your Nxt.

[chip99]

Amount:101.10159876 BTC Has been scammed.

pretty impressive

[wakasaki808]

Whoever is behind the scam is making some good money lol.

[niothor]

Amount:101.10159876 BTC Has been scammed.

pretty impressive

Make that 135,631.99756 mBTC

[GröBkAz]

ATTENTION

I hate seeing people get scammed.  There is really no reason for people to throw their money away on these scams.  Nxt is still extremely cheap.  If the investors here just took their money and bought some Nxt, they would have been much better off.

If you were an investor in this scam, send me a PM with your Nxt address and I will give you some Nxt.  It will take me a few days to get everyones' Nxt address and then I will send out your Nxt.

you're santa claus? Or did you only collect the names of those who were scammed to defy these people?

[skytaper]

Mandatory requirements for next new IPOs:
1) IPO starter (team) self deanonymization - real name, contacts, profiles, etc. (may be, it's not needed - if escrow or warranties preferred)
2) Escrow with reliable service;
3) Proper white paper;
4) Money back for first demand.

 Investors, please, just use your brain.

 You are asking too much from human beings...

[superresistant]

Where is my KFC bucket ? I want my chicken !

[KoningKaas]

aahahhahaha, this whitepaper, serious!  

ut it is difficult to imagine that you're holding one gram of gold to buy a KFC drumstick, and the waiter needs to give you some changes. Today you can skillfully use skype, twitter and facebook, but you hardly can imagine that you control the tube switch and show your distant friends that you buy a KFC drumstick by one gram of gold with 0 and 1. In the future, you will use VSC as a means of payment to buy a new Stella electric car or the round-trip ticket of space one-day tour; you will be hard to imagine that Bitcoin is now limited to the use of the MT and the activities on Bitcoin-e is for some meaningless paper money.

[AmericanBit]

aahahhahaha, this whitepaper, serious!  

ut it is difficult to imagine that you're holding one gram of gold to buy a KFC drumstick, and the waiter needs to give you some changes. Today you can skillfully use skype, twitter and facebook, but you hardly can imagine that you control the tube switch and show your distant friends that you buy a KFC drumstick by one gram of gold with 0 and 1. In the future, you will use VSC as a means of payment to buy a new Stella electric car or the round-trip ticket of space one-day tour; you will be hard to imagine that Bitcoin is now limited to the use of the MT and the activities on Bitcoin-e is for some meaningless paper money.

BRILLIANT!! So well explained... I only have one question. Can I take my KFC drumsticks with me on the space shuttle or is it just space food?


HAHAHAHA you fucking IDIOTS!!

[leckey]

It really is bewildering that so many people were taken in by this. People seriously need to start doing some due diligence when they're giving their money to strangers.

[miramare]

I thought he will disappear before the deadline of whitepaper.
I was wrong.
He wrote shit-like so-called whitepaper.
Haha~~
Poor and naive investors have been played by a highschool kid...

[AmericanBit]

I thought he will disappear before the deadline of whitepaper.
I was wrong.
He wrote shit-like so-called whitepaper.
Haha~~
Poor and naive investors have been played by a highschool kid...

Jesus, looks like you arent much better...youre Erust indicators are pretty much the same.

[GröBkAz]

what are you guys thinking about the Bitgold Project?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391507.0

Scam or no Scam...this is my question

[goldenmail]

visacoin, where are you?

[GröBkAz]

visacoin, where are you?

In the best chinese dog meat restaurant in town.

[StewartJ]

I am just amazed, just amazed at the trust people are willing to give.

So many red flags on this one...

[btc24]

2014-01-08 16:35:34 0.1 BTC
Are you kidding me? Where should I post my BTC address so strangers will donate me even if I'm retired ?

[miramare]

I thought he will disappear before the deadline of whitepaper.
I was wrong.
He wrote shit-like so-called whitepaper.
Haha~~
Poor and naive investors have been played by a highschool kid...

Jesus, looks like you arent much better...youre Erust indicators are pretty much the same.

 I just noticed that.

I feel so innocent!
I saw the VISAcoin is so obvious scam. But so many peoples have been scammed. I feel strange.
Then I wrote such a joke:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=398977.0

I don't know how these guys marking me untrusted think about!
Cannot they understand that it's just a joke!!!

Nobody have ever been scammed by me!

[2Kool4Skewl]

ATTENTION

I hate seeing people get scammed.  There is really no reason for people to throw their money away on these scams.  Nxt is still extremely cheap.  If the investors here just took their money and bought some Nxt, they would have been much better off.

If you were an investor in this scam, send me a PM with your Nxt address and I will give you some Nxt.  It will take me a few days to get everyones' Nxt address and then I will send out your Nxt.

you're santa claus? Or did you only collect the names of those who were scammed to defy these people?

No, I'm not going to reveal the people who got scammed.  I'm just going to send them some Nxt.  I've also been scammed before and I have no room to judge.  Everyone who invested in these scams just wanted to participate in a new cryptocurrency and be part of something bigger, something revolutionary.  I'm going to give them this chance.

[GröBkAz]

ATTENTION

I hate seeing people get scammed.  There is really no reason for people to throw their money away on these scams.  Nxt is still extremely cheap.  If the investors here just took their money and bought some Nxt, they would have been much better off.

If you were an investor in this scam, send me a PM with your Nxt address and I will give you some Nxt.  It will take me a few days to get everyones' Nxt address and then I will send out your Nxt.

you're santa claus? Or did you only collect the names of those who were scammed to defy these people?

No, I'm not going to reveal the people who got scammed.  I'm just going to send them some Nxt.  I've also been scammed before and I have no room to judge.  Everyone who invested in these scams just wanted to participate in a new cryptocurrency and be part of something bigger, something revolutionary.  I'm going to give them this chance.

Really? I have become very skeptical. I was not the first time a victim of a scammer. If it is true what you told, you can support me with a few NXT. I think NXT coins have a great future and I'm really sadly that I have not already heard of this amazing project.

NXT address: 16226554193521808668

[Nullu]

I'm calling it. Either the coins in that wallet address get moved, and we never hear from visacoin again, or he strings everyone along to see if he can squeeze a few more BTC out of this, or he announces the coins were stolen or some other such unlikely story.

He's probably gone quiet because he's trying to figure out his exit strategy. Anyone who gets a single Satoshi back from this should count themselves extremely lucky.

[bybitcoin]

I'm calling it. Either the coins in that wallet address get moved, and we never hear from visacoin again, or he strings everyone along to see if he can squeeze a few more BTC out of this, or he announces the coins were stolen or some other such unlikely story.

He's probably gone quiet because he's trying to figure out his exit strategy. Anyone who gets a single Satoshi back from this should count themselves extremely lucky.

He is good at silent exit, everything including his English accent make me guess he is the famous RealSolid, which is as famous in the scamming side of cryptocurrencies as Nakamoto is at the invention side of cryptocurrencies.

Satoshi Nakamoto= the god and inventor of cryptocurrencies, the guy who knows the essence of this technology better than everyone else.
RealSolid= the god and inventor of everytime working scams, the magician that knows the effective dumbness and greed among crypto-enthusiasts better than anybody else!

[aa417444103]

ATTENTION

I hate seeing people get scammed.  There is really no reason for people to throw their money away on these scams.  Nxt is still extremely cheap.  If the investors here just took their money and bought some Nxt, they would have been much better off.

If you were an investor in this scam, send me a PM with your Nxt address and I will give you some Nxt.  It will take me a few days to get everyones' Nxt address and then I will send out your Nxt.

you're santa claus? Or did you only collect the names of those who were scammed to defy these people?

No, I'm not going to reveal the people who got scammed.  I'm just going to send them some Nxt.  I've also been scammed before and I have no room to judge.  Everyone who invested in these scams just wanted to participate in a new cryptocurrency and be part of something bigger, something revolutionary.  I'm going to give them this chance.

Really? I have become very skeptical. I was not the first time a victim of a scammer. If it is true what you told, you can support me with a few NXT. I think NXT coins have a great future and I'm really sadly that I have not already heard of this amazing project.

NXT address: 16226554193521808668

I am also a victim of Google Form No. 89, there is me. Hate a liar. . NXT: 2096853780649302227 thank you.

[2Kool4Skewl]

Really? I have become very skeptical. I was not the first time a victim of a scammer. If it is true what you told, you can support me with a few NXT. I think NXT coins have a great future and I'm really sadly that I have not already heard of this amazing project.

NXT address: 16226554193521808668

I am also a victim of Google Form No. 89, there is me. Hate a liar. . NXT: 2096853780649302227 thank you.

I got your addresses.  I'll send your Nxt in a couple days.

[aa417444103]

Really? I have become very skeptical. I was not the first time a victim of a scammer. If it is true what you told, you can support me with a few NXT. I think NXT coins have a great future and I'm really sadly that I have not already heard of this amazing project.

NXT address: 16226554193521808668

I am also a victim of Google Form No. 89, there is me. Hate a liar. . NXT: 2096853780649302227 thank you.

I got your addresses.  I'll send your Nxt in a couple days.

thank you

[awais3344]

even though good that I didn't invest in this probably a scam. Well. I do not understand one thing that dude still did not withdraw that 135btc from that address. it seems like that he has some hardship with his software and he is probably working on it. But he thinks that it wont workout so he will just try to get out silently. I believe he has hired some cheap coders who are not able to do their worked and now he's fucked.

[tk808]

even though good that I didn't invest in this probably a scam. Well. I do not understand one thing that dude still did not withdraw that 135btc from that address. it seems like that he has some hardship with his software and he is probably working on it. But he thinks that it wont workout so he will just try to get out silently. I believe he has hired some cheap coders who are not able to do their worked and now he's fucked.

Best bet is he will be sitting on those BTCs for months. Then slip them out when all this has cool'd off.

[Kergekoin]

I can undestand that some people like to take riddiculus risk and invest in something like this -one time. But getting scammed multiples time like few of you did?! WTF is wrong with you!?

[awais3344]

even though good that I didn't invest in this probably a scam. Well. I do not understand one thing that dude still did not withdraw that 135btc from that address. it seems like that he has some hardship with his software and he is probably working on it. But he thinks that it wont workout so he will just try to get out silently. I believe he has hired some cheap coders who are not able to do their worked and now he's fucked.

Best bet is he will be sitting on those BTCs for months. Then slip them out when all this has cool'd off.

why would he do that? You do know that he can take his btc anywhere right now. and no one can do a fuckin thing about it. But that btc is still sitting there.

[Buratino]

This is a smart scam. Visacoin dev will release project later and will say: - Guys, I've done all. I am not responsible for the failure. You took risk. Nice to deal with you, thanks.

[GröBkAz]

This is a smart scam. Visacoin dev will release project later and will say: - Guys, I've done all. I am not responsible for the failure. You took risk. Nice to deal with you, thanks.

you're right. well analyzed

[Fernandez]

ATTENTION

I hate seeing people get scammed.  There is really no reason for people to throw their money away on these scams.  Nxt is still extremely cheap.  If the investors here just took their money and bought some Nxt, they would have been much better off.

If you were an investor in this scam, send me a PM with your Nxt address and I will give you some Nxt.  It will take me a few days to get everyones' Nxt address and then I will send out your Nxt.

Is it for real? Thanks a lot. I initially missed out on NXT and MSC and thought I would not miss another one. I have stopped bothering about any of these crowdfunding coins except counterparty.

NXT address: 15125251810930484336 (got 50NXT from a giveaway and another 4 from faucet).