Hashfast mining without shipping customer gear?

[minternj]

You show us on  Dec 8th you were assembling boards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rl6L8nt3Hc

You show us that you are mining on the live network around  Dec 20th at full speed:



Your webmaster who happens to be the webmaster of eligius.st posts some pics as well from his visit:
http://eligius.st/~gateway/news/quick-visit-hashfast-hq




It looks to me like from the official hashfast picture, you are also mining on eligius from the long user name(public key address).

Eligius hash total on December 20: ~950TH
Eligius hash total on December 26: ~1130TH

eligius added around 180TH since the 20th when no other large manufacturer was releasing product.

Original 550 Babyjets Batch 1 at 400GH = 220 TH

That is pretty goddam close.

We are now to assume that you are hashing with Babyjets on the mainnet since the 20th from this.
Unfortunately your extremely poor communication skills and performance so far will leave us to assume the worst.

Added:
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1Nbq2XZaRsKknf5fcT2wTXvBS31PaUWSeX
This is an eligius account that is of interest that has been adding a ton of hashpower recently.

Update:
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1KSZMq1L9ZWEBKEHuW7ACXWZJYdxiTdaVt
This is the official account they are mining* on.

source - https://twitter.com/HashFast/status/416810773290430464

Updated 12/31

Changed title because of legal threats from Hashfast. Also reworded original text to remove supposedly libelous information at Hashfast's request. They claim to not have mined on customer equipment. However, they have mined* without shipping customer's equipment.

*Mining is defined in this case as participating on eligius mining pool and earning BTC for work submitted.

[HarrisonS]

They said they built 400 BJs. 400*422=168.8TH/s. Thats even closer. However, I doubt that they are mining on customer gear.

[cedivad]

eligius added around 180TH since the 20th when no other large manufacturer was releasing product.

Good, they can keep the miners where they are and refund us. (trollface at thinking how easy it will be to prove this in court if you are right, by simply looking at what they did @ ciara, by supposing that they where this naive).

[HarrisonS]

They said they built 400 BJs. 400*422=168.8TH/s. Thats even closer. However, I doubt that they are mining on customer gear.

[Mod Edit: minternj text elided as per his last post in this thread]

Just because they have a picture of a BJ mining doesn't mean that they are going to ship a customer that same miner.

[HarrisonS]

This could be HF. Check out the jump in hash rate around the time HF would have finished assembly.
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1Nbq2XZaRsKknf5fcT2wTXvBS31PaUWSeX

[minternj]

Thats why the title is posed as a question. I posted some data that makes it seem like its more than possible. They are free to refute. I will be watching the eligius.st hashrate when they do ship(if ever).

[cedivad]

Just because they have a picture of a BJ mining doesn't mean that they are going to ship a customer that same miner.

And here is our HF puppet. I see that you didn't invested in prestigious accounts, HF. Do you know that you can buy them?

[minternj]

This could be HF. Check out the jump in hash rate around the time HF would have finished assembly.
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1Nbq2XZaRsKknf5fcT2wTXvBS31PaUWSeX

wow that guy or company had a very merry xmas, unlike us hashfast customers.

[HarrisonS]

Just because they have a picture of a BJ mining doesn't mean that they are going to ship a customer that same miner.

And here is our HF puppet. I see that you didn't invested in prestigious accounts, HF. Do you know that you can buy them?

You're just so ignorant that you think that anyone who argues against you and in favor of HF is a "puppet".

Edit: here's another miner that started around Dec 20th http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1E3kbVQ8v3F5Ctd7yKJGj8nU8Ut8S4NyeS

[cedivad]

You're just so ignorant that you think that anyone who argues against you and in favor of HF is a "puppet".

No, just people registered with the only purpose of arguing against me with the same timeframe of the other account of yours you used in the other thread and with your activity. But hell, yes, i'm just being paranoid. I'm starting to getting used to this, i could become the new Icebreaker.

[Anddos]

So do you expect them not to test your machines before they deliever them?
Do you really want none working asic miners thats been untested?
They are bound to hash on your machines why even worry about this?

[cedivad]

They are bound to hash on your machines why even worry about this?

It's another point pro us in court, dear.

(that smile...)

[minternj]

So do you expect them not to test your machines before they deliever them?
Do you really want none working asic miners thats been untested?
They are bound to hash on your machines why even worry about this?

You buy a new taxi car. Your dealership uses it as a taxi for 11 days before you can pick it up. Your  brand new car has 20k miles before you even get it. Let me add, you also work as a taxi driver and you notice less customers since you bought your car.  Do you not complain?

*Edit - modified scenario

[Anddos]

But you are not loosing millage on a bitcoin miner so whats your point?
What exactly are you loosing out on if they test your machines?

[minternj]

Are you seriously asking that question? Every day we don't have the miner in our hands is days we aren't mining. Are you thick or just a troll? Seriously.

[Flying Hellfish]

So do you expect them not to test your machines before they deliever them?
Do you really want none working asic miners thats been untested?
They are bound to hash on your machines why even worry about this?

Gee someone should make a test net that will allow testing of units without hitting the live network.  God if only someone somewhere had thought of this before all these people started making fucking gear....

[HarrisonS]

You buy a new car. Your dealership uses it as a taxi for 11 days before you can pick it up. Your  brand new car has 20k miles before you even get it. Do you not  complain?

In addition, HF only warranties the BJ for 10 days. If they think the lifetime of the BJ is that short, then mining on them might even cause some to fail as soon as they arrive or shortly after.

[minternj]

Exactly. Testnet exists. But either trolls will be trolls, or people are genuinely stupid in here.

[cedivad]

In addition, HF only warranties the BJ for 10 days. If they think the lifetime of the BJ is that short, then mining on them might even cause some to fail as soon as they arrive or shortly after.

^^^ To funny. Keep that coming, please.

[Anddos]

Are you seriously asking that question? Every day we don't have the miner in our hands is days we aren't mining. Are you thick or just a troll? Seriously.

So you mean the bitcoin difficulty is increasing correct?
Well i would prefer for hashfast to hold my machine as long as it takes,to make sure its 100% tested and certified for consumer use,so there is no problems in the long run.