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August 02, 2018, 06:05:04 AM Last edit: August 02, 2018, 11:01:56 AM by frodocooper |
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Might be the shipping cost you're seeing?
All of their listed prices do not include shipping. You don't see the additional shipping cost until you click the "order now" button. I purchased one using Bank Transfer and shipping was 242 USD. Total was 1592 USD. When I clicked the button to switch option for BTC it was about .234 BTC with shipping. At current prices that's about 1790 USD. I'm just saying, do the math first if you are going to buy T2T with BTC. Order Details Product Name
INNOSILICON T2 Turbo(T2T) Miner with PSU (220V)
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1 units
Price of machine
1350/unit
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Freight Forwarder
Total Price for Machine
1350 USD
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242 USD
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1592 USD
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August 02, 2018, 01:08:16 PM |
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USD vs BTC price will also depend on who their exchange is. I've often seen well over $100 difference between the various exchanges.
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August 02, 2018, 02:42:00 PM Last edit: August 02, 2018, 03:01:24 PM by minefarmbuy |
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You can see the shipping cost add in prior totaling $1592 for USD. Just a casual conversion it shows $1801 for a BTC purchase. I would contact them directly let them know the issue. I know we will. The broker here says we typically will send wire and try to do business off the website as it is not secured.
Edit: Yea some thing is really wrong, over 1.5 BTC for an A9 shipped. approx 11.5k USD
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August 02, 2018, 03:01:23 PM Last edit: August 02, 2018, 09:30:49 PM by frodocooper |
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USD vs BTC price will also depend on who their exchange is. I've often seen well over $100 difference between the various exchanges.
In this case it was nearly a $200 difference. I checked coin gecko, coinbase and coin market cap. You can see the shipping cost add in prior totaling $1592 for USD. Just a casual conversion it shows $1801 for a BTC purchase. I would contact them directly let them know the issue. I know we will. The broker here says we typically will send wire and try to do business off the website as it is not secured.
That is an excellent point. I like their miners, but bank transfer is the safe and at this time the cheaper way to go.
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August 02, 2018, 04:18:44 PM |
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Innosilicon is opening up all its latest custom ASIC with software/hardware reference design for interested OEM/ODM buyers to support decentralization and miner DIY (Do It Yourself).
THAT is very interesting and almost a throwback to the A1 days when Inno was more than happy to sell chips. You folks should contact Sidehack.... I wonder how long it typically takes them to respond to inquiries, because I've heard nothing yet.
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August 02, 2018, 04:58:42 PM Last edit: August 02, 2018, 09:32:04 PM by frodocooper |
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This is their official position: "5. We don't adjust btc and ltc momentarily, so we use a conservative coin rate comparatively. we suggest you should pay via bank transfer if you want an exact cash price."That is an excellent point. I like their miners, but bank transfer is the safe and at this time the cheaper way to go.
I just got back from my bank and they will only transfer money to other countries in their own currency, if it's sent from a regular account. They will send USD if I have a business account. Unfortunately, USD is what Innosilicon wants. So my only choice is to pay their inflated BTC or LTC prices or wait for the S11.
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August 02, 2018, 07:02:18 PM |
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Maybe something wrong with their API pulls? Cause BTC isn't displaying at the top of their product page then LTC is showing but at the same approx rate of $1791. I'll forward to sales and see if they can get a response, I don't do ordering just annoying (bad joke). Sidehack were you interested in wafers/chips? Might as well piggyback for info.
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August 02, 2018, 07:12:26 PM |
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Yes, I am interested in samples and dev resources. Depending on what IO bus they use, it might not be difficult to re-tool my current projects to a new chip and it could very well be worth it if the chip's 30% better than what I have now.
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August 02, 2018, 07:42:00 PM |
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Ok, I just sent email to the sales team (copy/pasted your last post sidehack), seems their already trying to work this out. If we don't hear back from Inno in a reasonable time we'll have to pull all our Innosilicon listings, re-run pricing for them item by item or do group batches to keep costs low as we'll want to save with wire not what seems like an excessive percentage markup for coin buys.
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August 02, 2018, 10:55:17 PM Last edit: August 03, 2018, 01:26:42 AM by minefarmbuy |
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No word yet from Inno yet but pending reply's we'll be routing all payments through wire to keep costs down for buyers. It will take longer for those purchasing with BTC, etc but will save 60% on their conservative cryptocurrency pricing "markup" this way. Apparently our brokers were aware of the discrepancy communicating this on our quotes to buyers or potentials. Our Pricing for innosilicon site wide has been updated to reflect these changes. A coin buy will be roughly $1750 before cost savings.
Edit: projection includes unit cost, customs/import, wire/transfer fees, shipping to buyer, and our commission for US.
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August 02, 2018, 11:24:59 PM |
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No word yet from Inno yet but pending reply's we'll be routing all payments through wire to keep costs down for buyers. It will take longer for those purchasing with BTC, etc but will save 60% on their conservative cryptocurrency pricing "markup" this way. Apparently our brokers were aware of the discrepancy communicating this on our quotes to buyers or potentials. Our Pricing for innosilicon site wide has been updated to reflect these changes. A coin buy will be roughly $1750 before cost savings.
Sent you a pm
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August 03, 2018, 03:00:56 AM |
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No word yet from Inno yet but pending reply's we'll be routing all payments through wire to keep costs down for buyers. It will take longer for those purchasing with BTC, etc but will save 60% on their conservative cryptocurrency pricing "markup" this way. Apparently our brokers were aware of the discrepancy communicating this on our quotes to buyers or potentials. Our Pricing for innosilicon site wide has been updated to reflect these changes. A coin buy will be roughly $1750 before cost savings.
Edit: projection includes unit cost, customs/import, wire/transfer fees, shipping to buyer, and our commission for US.
Hello thank you for your feedback. We will check our website and we will continuously improve our service in the future. Looking forward to bring you the excellent customer experience in the future!
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August 03, 2018, 04:09:41 AM Last edit: August 04, 2018, 12:35:14 AM by frodocooper |
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Hello thank you for your feedback. We will check our website and we will continuously improve our service in the future. Looking forward to bring you the excellent customer experience in the future!
Awesome to hear. Our contact in sales replied to our inquires as well. We'll be excited to make BTC, LTC a better option, at least for our business model. Typically even credit is pushed in coin as the process is quicker and cost effective compared to wire but for Innosilicon it appears we've been doing the reverse. @sidehack I was told your query was relayed. Hope to hear back soon but hope you hear back before us.
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August 03, 2018, 12:19:46 PM Last edit: August 04, 2018, 12:35:59 AM by frodocooper |
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So I put in an order for 1 t2 Turbo and for some reason I clicked btc and was sent a bill in usd INNOSILICON T2 Turbo(T2T) Miner Order Details T2TINNO2018080304 Friday, August 3, 2018 7:31 AM From: "miner_market@innosilicon.com.cn" <miner_market@innosilicon.com.cn> To: philip.......@yahoo..om Thanks for choosing Innosilicon miners. Below are the details of your order of INNOSILICON T2 Turbo(T2T) Miner.
Order ID: T2TINNO2018080304 Time:2018-08-03 Amount: 1592 USD Payment:Bank Transfer
Order Details Product Name INNOSILICON T2 Turbo(T2T) Miner with PSU (220V) Order Quantity 1 units Price of machine 1350/unit Shipping Method Freight Forwarder Total Price for Machine 1350 USD Shipping fee 242 USD Total Price 1592 USD Customer Information Customer Name Company Country State/Province City Street And House NO. Zip Code Phone Number Email Address Philip ....... UNITED STATES OF AMERICA New Jersey Howell ........... 07731 732 ,,, ,,,, philip.......@yahoo..om CI Note: 1. Order expiry date Payment should be completed within 24 hours (1 business day), otherwise the order is automatically cancelled. 2. Payment: Innosilicon Designated Acccount: - Account Name: Smart Server Electronics Limited - Account Number: 801 528993 838
- Company Registered Address: G/F 257 Tai Nam, Sham Shui PO KLN, Hongkong - Bank Name: HSBCHK (HSBC Hongkong)
So first question is why did it switch I know I clicked BTC. Second time I ordered I watched and error repeated but I caught it and I now have a bill for 0.23015 btc
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August 03, 2018, 06:29:15 PM |
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For me the highlight of the product page is watching the youtube video that has that cheesy tina turner song in the background.
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August 03, 2018, 06:52:57 PM |
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It's pretty awesome I remember the leaked footage had on there to.
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August 04, 2018, 03:16:17 AM |
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They did get back to me last night, asking what kind of demand I'd have. Haven't heard any more yet but hopefully they're willing to work with someone who'll have to start small (my chips budget right now is only five figures) and snowball instead of dumping in a quarter million dollars up-front or whatever.
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August 04, 2018, 12:50:49 PM |
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They did get back to me last night, asking what kind of demand I'd have. Haven't heard any more yet but hopefully they're willing to work with someone who'll have to start small (my chips budget right now is only five figures) and snowball instead of dumping in a quarter million dollars up-front or whatever.
That is good news! I hope they work with you.
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August 04, 2018, 03:31:34 PM Last edit: August 04, 2018, 03:47:42 PM by minefarmbuy |
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Looks like Inno's BTC rate is much closer. Not sure what our pricing on coin is now but I imagine it's roughly that $40-50 range less. We'll see the same slight drop in our web prices at some point to adjust for no longer needing using wires for better pricing through them (unless of course requested to do so).
Edit: For those here who reached out me about orders on this, if you did place one with us and it's not submitted to Inno yet let me know if you want a refund I'll expedite it since it's the weekend. Obviously you'll save more if you order directly from Inno with BTC.
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August 04, 2018, 05:31:35 PM |
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Looks like Inno's BTC rate is much closer. Not sure what our pricing on coin is now but I imagine it's roughly that $40-50 range less. We'll see the same slight drop in our web prices at some point to adjust for no longer needing using wires for better pricing through them (unless of course requested to do so).
Edit: For those here who reached out me about orders on this, if you did place one with us and it's not submitted to Inno yet let me know if you want a refund I'll expedite it since it's the weekend. Obviously you'll save more if you order directly from Inno with BTC.
Tha would be me and some others I just saw shift in cost and will order direct from them in about 10 minutes.
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