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January 09, 2014, 10:56:42 PM
 #81

ahahah he just added that so people will back off while he sells the rest of the doge

Well the bounty is only coming down when we are remunerated.
Phonetic posted exactly the same stuff he already posted 32 days ago.  Roll Eyes

Scrypt Pools had many problems and many coins were lost due to multiple payout problems.

I was in over my head the moment the pool went past 500 mh/s.

I did my best to keep it running but I failed. I'm embarassed and truly sorry.

I will find a way to get enough doges to process the rest of the payouts and reinstate my credibility.

Scrypt Pools had many problems and many coins were lost due to multiple payout problems.

I was in over my head the moment the pool went past 500 mh/s.

I did my best to keep it running but I failed. I'm embarassed and truly sorry.

I will find a way to get enough doges to process the rest of the payouts and reinstate my credibility.

He edited his original post as well as his signature to reflect his apparent sentiments
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January 09, 2014, 10:59:41 PM
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"I will find a way to get enough doges to process the rest of the payouts and reinstate my credibility."

why would he need "to get enough doges" when he apparently has 3b doges stashes away

hes just buying time to bug the hell out


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January 09, 2014, 11:10:24 PM
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At this point, only action counts.

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January 10, 2014, 12:29:48 AM
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http://dogechain.info/address/DK17aeKTQ9TLhkTYNLP6R5urWYJyjPbKmY

http://dogechain.info/tx/23468993d450b8e2cc8ad905afc2548e393f36c35940a4467812e126b838d035

http://dogechain.info/address/DDv8SsDh9pRwcHPdFsSqnATxMZPbKsgnJ7

http://dogechain.info/tx/cc6fe0e2864e846aaa617e1f33a87b66aa5e154f8d34b691bdf0e4c94dc8f785

http://dogechain.info/address/DNq3Ybt6rmJUiQhMd4jk9UabhmEAVXmsQo

http://dogechain.info/tx/2aa75afc27f9f8d8feeb2eea36df8ece5ac000608e5342a8e8dc1ad21723fc41

http://dogechain.info/address/DS3R3LeyPv5N3mb7qef1chgSWg4uSkQstT

http://dogechain.info/tx/b99a7ae722d0b2e26b82dca4f2570735397f6e9a18bbf26e8e4001b938f1f0cd

http://dogechain.info/address/DKo11XGmVhoAiC91D2qKShxV7hSQw45oT1

http://dogechain.info/tx/e026234b6a8d0ee135a8b95b574f412eb7c772cf63b81f29cf8db21fb849c84b

http://dogechain.info/address/DC7CFPfXKvKmxTbcw5Qd3DcNcu8wczfZRe

http://dogechain.info/tx/4b8118bdec773e3ff56a13fe7ed0470dcf008152bba6421582d5a1a4641edcc3

http://dogechain.info/address/DPzymNVZWeRasHPesbNn3cpnMUBRAJHsE5

http://dogechain.info/tx/9fc3f95b9b2764df39ed7a5a8693b2c8d4d35db00c0aa6f25a65645f4d8d35a5

http://dogechain.info/address/DSHi81hiHXdQFKMu4Xb1yPbCr1rhdYnwd3

http://dogechain.info/tx/fa59273a9859cebebd66ff206edcfd5ca2517e0ce57d05d2b4e40446772d454c

http://dogechain.info/address/DCZr8dZksPbpxiLD3ShoLAMebbfrKz22tN

http://dogechain.info/tx/83a8bd2a6eaf12d5e97bf4978c85fe4ad276fd99a1b8d455e3c3ee6bb9849665

http://dogechain.info/address/DPFUbr7irKsTEAfhKRuTF2NmRThGRct7y4

http://dogechain.info/tx/7e3fcf122c3b0c583ae6b0d24ef71330864c06f4fef686e297d59b6c1f9d828a

http://dogechain.info/address/D9LF3KB7r3XRhg5hg3yEK1rGzhPKboJskG

http://dogechain.info/tx/a840443b115451f78c60a0ed0cb34bb86e4a589fb71f4e259c9737a595832602

http://dogechain.info/address/DTRPBXAUBdZzDewvZM7mA956hjJTiM42Uw

http://dogechain.info/tx/c7d4e0d233bec0821ef4bbce99438dd65429324fafa3891d818dd76d205f01c8

http://dogechain.info/address/DThmMa48wjYPiiafBZZLpbKZrfpqKXt4db

http://dogechain.info/tx/2d647cb8f41fdece9a91e29194a95c949d57773988993ee1b95a118099b7d4c4

http://dogechain.info/address/DT3Luu7ojkZQAf3uD9Yr9ifwV1Sy6FwkFL

http://dogechain.info/tx/d1b69474634d9f0b36f76cd57ad52a46e5d13eb3e47fd4317ac34d7aca53ac2e

http://dogechain.info/address/D5Ue7PnG5v3ZjTyg1ix6AQJPvg9RLDgo9R

http://dogechain.info/tx/6c57f94e83375fb4881b241459027a41a2281d7945850624341b269820b56e6c

http://dogechain.info/address/D9kykmMvscFd58w8LwLFNFNv3sCs5hkRQy

http://dogechain.info/tx/47c900381047da425a080464618686c0037622ddf74b5c74e8674be1fe90d9a7

http://dogechain.info/address/DJ8KCejoLcnqsxcwgDy5Q6aAq12gciHj8s

http://dogechain.info/tx/a03f063ad0cb1314dc5efe781104b3ab5ceb99057c1f80d18306f8e6511d3978

http://dogechain.info/address/DHYFk5cUffzqBcfoF26iQ7pQnJkonqtfLC

http://dogechain.info/tx/245624dc399d481a89cf8822a1d036c0830adb0b1cb4de63703c679dacfe0713

http://dogechain.info/address/DKi85wM4NyAWcaRox7M9H3Bt2x3qjKVd2m

http://dogechain.info/tx/3df8a3222a2b7e2c0cbd0e710901b36bfeafc0066c95fa651c103a2bd96f2beb

http://dogechain.info/address/DQkqUcTe5Bc5wvcU6UvaZ2DmvPNvUcQt2x

http://dogechain.info/tx/80cc474d1a552befbef28dd52d087ea55993a04406d53ef0c0fc1cde3d3b2858

http://dogechain.info/address/DRpcKw8t3s23JCaRPfHW3Ycf4tnqSyn7Ev

http://dogechain.info/tx/c146126290d69b3b45904b6e186591555780680eeea8b6cc0f9c37920570cc06

http://dogechain.info/address/D7qwogWYbo8PVhN41Ngth49tsmbX8HSDTr

http://dogechain.info/tx/4f66aff1be072bd54a250d5b604b237cf3d2895c9648d5d7cea75fd7fef878e6

http://dogechain.info/address/D6EAYFHbv1UTfxmczx64R5hy8WDgGwRD3G

http://dogechain.info/tx/35d2228b8abdfca04165d4d89798eff57f6a7d2b83835ecd63c8fa7200e98f2f

http://dogechain.info/address/DQ9j7vnToCg8u5jmVK2mVmjEqANtnJZTjN

http://dogechain.info/tx/998f91de1968cbff4db7799fec701bce4a8f6ff04b76db73011afdd748edfc70

http://dogechain.info/address/DBZ9NsjdDfbDc4BqVikcEhXNPm8kesEByr

http://dogechain.info/tx/afc48d9afb947da29ff9b82fbe0bafdbb1211b29acceba453c2d5b2d2c3f8f27

http://dogechain.info/address/DU5jm5FMRswyEaqdr5e1p3kaJbUNF7J9F2

http://dogechain.info/tx/4b93751c3256a11195d55f837ccf3b85a1e36690471b00446c7bd71e48a5dbe7

http://dogechain.info/address/DKirdbmqG2k2VxNQhtYvpQvRVATYToL9ut

http://dogechain.info/tx/0cc339a1df53481c1b64f5912fac0956197183fda25c566372c252dbf41ba183

http://dogechain.info/address/DBoWsm9y9CbCWnXgGJXP4VH176ji5xHdWS

http://dogechain.info/tx/dd1d9b6617b06572e756af56c08a9acd84c2c8a1bfecd72ecc84c939002e0138

http://dogechain.info/address/DJhqveMs2K4KGkV1FU2Fw4YFjwW8BkZWm9

http://dogechain.info/tx/3f540739fbeb8116ccf1cb3ecb80487283d49fccd7b1a688b43786a5e13a2818

http://dogechain.info/address/DAgtDoCiRTiW7CJAGPBXtkUdVsPaaBfenu

http://dogechain.info/tx/0d6d5410bd3abe1a8ed4fa44c5a9b8896fe30da6a4ccfeef1ccfafc35bcee060

http://dogechain.info/address/D84fxAv6oMVwefGEcXtmdBUNXY91PJ68Zy

http://dogechain.info/tx/bddbbcff745b51a1d8da4f9f63a72d3f9f54f5f6fcbd344f346a1d9ced35caec

http://dogechain.info/address/DRSRMuaaYTDCS9FCNVFty3CKtZRsUtTcXL

http://dogechain.info/tx/90383a803abb8568e39a833fb86eaf3503a47a983fe7b10d375b016c7c932fb6

http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi

well, this is the trail, if you can call it that. its something. ownership? who's to say. the beginning address is tethered to a real world person. at worst maybe they could explain their tx and funneling methods.

now, if you can tie your scryptpool coins to the jvbi account, which was supposedly done by the OP, you can start to ask why.

still a shitload of questions to be answered.


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January 10, 2014, 01:10:37 AM
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that was actually my third attempt to recreate the path at this sitting. twice i hit different wallets with parked coins and no sends.

the third time i stuck to wallet links whenever available, only using tx links when necessary.

again, the only link im suggesting is that there is a "path" that ends at a destination provided by the OP.

i suppose you could use the in-wallet message system to contact some of the active accounts.

would it be out of line to ask an advertising game dev, to explain how he spending money out of an account that was described as an investor vehicle? not soo much to prove his innocence, but more to help shed some light as to where his "ownership" ended in the chain. with all those emails and a twitter account, it shouldn't be hard to ask.
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January 10, 2014, 02:46:43 AM
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That. Is. Ridiculous.

Good work clueclub!
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January 10, 2014, 03:00:00 PM
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Thanks Clue. So far I haven't been able to link the scryptpools account to http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi

I finally found a trail back to one of the common wallet addresses I found though, http://dogechain.info/address/D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB

This starts out using the scryptpools address that the mined blocks go into that OP posted. I'll keep poking away at it in my spare time and see if I can either link scryptpools to http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi or Apsyon to http://dogechain.info/address/D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB

http://dogechain.info/address/DBosmYAzYJ22rFoVETozJ7nXYQLeN7r51d
http://dogechain.info/tx/5bbd18eb2880ca3659b77d40cfca7a9f1b34ad1d162e664a1b0cccb2f87bc40b
http://dogechain.info/address/DG7Q9x6cmNVdtJ9HSCGiaqthDDgBAZvo2y
http://dogechain.info/tx/eb973995295c77b8fd17da640f86dc79bc126743a9e4cf57455757eaa01d240b
http://dogechain.info/address/DMDr1uzfh41n1ocK5Sdc9aY4oBWzWRGBuN
http://dogechain.info/tx/aab49ff4c3438e7f058abbeb7e2cc8610e9cf603c4d7e539d3518931822cde20
http://dogechain.info/address/D5xVTtRVqfc5VUKbXwNyVPe1D5WVYF8AsB
http://dogechain.info/tx/6f4106296a9e09baa66c716060eba500dbcac4275924137349f7baafe52c68c0
http://dogechain.info/address/DM33QTAS3VQtduyD66cdMd6E4Bq1tzzNAF
http://dogechain.info/tx/b2e93e4a7d1f5f940347e2c1a76fdaf567dbeb5d8204a9f2a2c0fbcc0ede4d30
http://dogechain.info/address/DHP1Y8tDCk7p55DsR3WyhEPehBVQNNDEze
http://dogechain.info/tx/963e635b6623afd494adce15c6091648c9342cb1785964ff2a8cd11f5389db02
http://dogechain.info/address/DMUCsq7yqpjjoxwUkdd9EyoZfay3faaNdJ
http://dogechain.info/tx/e36c95d1dbe062ef7ef2b0108f0c89bc31a7407fdf4a8fb25e2dcf96e388810c
http://dogechain.info/address/D8dXf57yE2asdbLSu5T4BgGTsMjgn6bvxq
http://dogechain.info/tx/f7b67e4a401a1f95a8d3eef2c675e024c32bae8f7981fec26672c1505a3b2d50
http://dogechain.info/address/D5V4WUq4pqPTsohUjKM2kgYCEw4j66e7By
http://dogechain.info/tx/6c4944fed17e140139f8b9bebad42531f6485ce54c05a1271d006459ab2cc45c
http://dogechain.info/address/DFh3DQmBLGJUuAaLHjHhi4qpVLyf31BKaW
http://dogechain.info/tx/bec9c6ac4ec14d858eecda4417e1a85d0e392823533b2ed228a78809b2caf7b8
http://dogechain.info/address/DNCw3HCzBAn2adZnBmh6gW5tzZHW6vytU7
http://dogechain.info/tx/ad4ac02c735f6eb63684284a837fa5ecf66040621e2f24a15af268365e40210b
http://dogechain.info/address/DTcEKLBpitWvXYHbEzWQb18ozKfD6tnRX9
http://dogechain.info/tx/3eff533d9f0d88021ad6438bac8bd759f3c5a25e7f3d9b957bc4928eff8fdc05
http://dogechain.info/address/D6Ert5ybfAJoNDNT3hc44H4Gb7vE93bxpn
http://dogechain.info/tx/1bc600a91d501c93ff6992de7865b8d138bcc41aeaad1486effc4e6852938550
http://dogechain.info/address/DQD9W1dp1gpZbfaYsU5dcCB9FXshYHG3RH
http://dogechain.info/tx/41432e75aa4cdd40c255857f7ecdab3b2836ed5109870922d54a2e1ed6790bc7
http://dogechain.info/address/DGE67a4iJbSN4L7N6EGxbPiYZKLyPxcPYT
http://dogechain.info/tx/2dad742c4c76d034612d2c217ccd1cc78e6d17c2d148f02ee20d2321a44c5a2d
http://dogechain.info/address/DAWUvaw2T4XLKGpQq68YuJjn4H2Mv5mf9A
http://dogechain.info/tx/7a41006d1b511f875f68707b9f310b1946d7c3e1af6d51961faaf3130d5da4e9
http://dogechain.info/address/D9YActhMpZ13DVFykFPqzgoycpr3TFuYLq
http://dogechain.info/tx/fb333de0e0d3ae7d880218f0331a4d09e45371bd44baa3bdf8252537972daf13
http://dogechain.info/address/DR2qB3VJh1ZbtKURgWFRwwFZUNYwXy3Vrm
http://dogechain.info/tx/829bec91d97320b4b6d707946637dd90769ab1ab49d3b41568b1ea2152b3750f
http://dogechain.info/address/DGN84rKMFfnjKENfRNXmG961NVDeVG2kXW
http://dogechain.info/tx/3e831ed576a99a471d6579602a2e94e4819a9fe4969749fef1965087fb9f83a3
http://dogechain.info/address/DRwNDwD13NUgnx7emJw34139vyjZjbsinG
http://dogechain.info/tx/6418a3919c8c9f1353971a7075dc1120449e202e2b287b6b065446a1d892713d
http://dogechain.info/address/DJRkw7pCTcEjHDDH9HQbSRUexGsMHQjGKN
http://dogechain.info/tx/92fbea9384a5ec07312a97446eaf61d2fb718e535f25ddc34bdb0b31a86f739d
http://dogechain.info/address/DSgE8ywFQJET5HGTHTshABS5Z4kwmhEFSM
http://dogechain.info/tx/9a6713b1d4ec2e7bc89d5e341e6ecaadfcd1bbe9a73c1139a167be017baefab4
http://dogechain.info/address/DDkB8YBHTfhjiW1i8wzCV5wzp7K5ANCNi2
http://dogechain.info/tx/900d4e7494786828fb3665f6ee3801c3e0a190ef1be3583d586891204871c22b
http://dogechain.info/address/DNFwt2LuQci1YiZJ79KsUruaDs2JJzwn45
http://dogechain.info/tx/3f2c082d16f038a77cdb45d41b27a43b9c17236f5ac2daceeb2433592423d02c
http://dogechain.info/address/DKnfSmXNvbR12mCdrh3BV1JBL98CApjYho
http://dogechain.info/tx/4ab43b20783a5fd7491988f476fb1c21c907c8b57b7702e4bec569e5793b9e60
http://dogechain.info/address/DU8Fyhi3Jef1mrmsDsj3eY7iuaiCGRFYxq
http://dogechain.info/tx/a2e44ce8ce0e16fcd6606be3daa91b011ef709665116cfaa557f15da0289817c
http://dogechain.info/address/DFBPBdvafYdtjyKqNZve6nC3pysNqoiMXr
http://dogechain.info/tx/9526ea96a3d766710a9983b497d79ccc8233d3c08320644ecbff88886260a9fb
http://dogechain.info/address/DMARoeYJFQBF3Xm5ciWRuz9ivLZAwTZZU6
http://dogechain.info/tx/317d01b515e4192d49290459eaa8e0ca4fed382f77bfad655bf0904e424746ea
http://dogechain.info/address/DTZ3Ut2DZ8ePtUaCZNYpHmX48EZQhMhPAL
http://dogechain.info/tx/041286edadfdba5842869c18e48881e6c6d1136ae37b8e41c791eca1bad7b55e
http://dogechain.info/address/D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB
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January 10, 2014, 07:46:57 PM
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Quote from: mitymouse link=topic=39776javascript:void(0);2.msg4430429#msg4430429 date=1389366000
Thanks Clue. So far I haven't been able to link the scryptpools account to http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi

I posted exactly how you can do just that in the OP.  I'll put it in the format you guys are using:

Generation pool:
http://dogechain.info/address/DBosmYAzYJ22rFoVETozJ7nXYQLeN7r51d
http://dogechain.info/tx/14ffe8962068e6d3c3457c19e742a923ccb9d0cc9748ac1852b7fee2a6b96c41

http://dogechain.info/address/D79AecQuo7Zaar19qtAMu6BBe3p5J6oktr
http://dogechain.info/tx/4a272aa46516a00f32be7db3dc0acbd067544c52d744e6eac55e4517c14a903d
and http://dogechain.info/tx/e5271952df329fa1412ca835ee9c0dc70769d3df1dfc5228a3e585681e0aa209
and http://dogechain.info/tx/0e8db9919ca01f506d61336f6b2c1ee212ab078982507247b8b62303a125f5ad
and http://dogechain.info/tx/e5271952df329fa1412ca835ee9c0dc70769d3df1dfc5228a3e585681e0aa209
and http://dogechain.info/tx/0e8db9919ca01f506d61336f6b2c1ee212ab078982507247b8b62303a125f5ad
and http://dogechain.info/tx/f3fd0ca98279503abd2e5df186891effa6e47ea079f3d76ed0e2411af9407e4e
and http://dogechain.info/tx/fe045ea3a0d75772600f1391d0d1b2b503327a602216c564a6bdc0efae2c9cb5

http://dogechain.info/address/DEJxNoV8Z5XdesBMnxxa4ASwEYxRshvpC6
http://dogechain.info/tx/a6fcfe278b58ab03a91c59713dddefb84742d4754b9484fd9af687b4f311f1ad

http://dogechain.info/address/DRSRMuaaYTDCS9FCNVFty3CKtZRsUtTcXL
http://dogechain.info/tx/b14ed1e3f8ce15d2a6c9670ce12f7e3e687ff6aa07ac778379db837cf806cfc1
http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi

also
http://dogechain.info/tx/b056bdebb6576ebc227c097c1ad26b47226c342ed6f7e8f02b3851bf2b33ce76
http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi


I have said this multiple times, but will say it again. I do not think that the "whale" account http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi belongs to Phonetic  Not all of the scryptpools doge ended up in that address.  I think that whoever owns that account ended up with the Doge after Phonetic sold it, through an exchange or otherwise.  The purpose of my original post was to show people that the money mined by scryptpools in the period after Phonetic disappeared and payments stopped was not sitting still, but being sold off.  

It's great that you guys are digging through the blockchain and trying to piece this together, but it is completely irresponsible to post an address, phone number, even a picture of that guy's house, on the evidence you have so far presented.  What you have demonstrated is that some of that developer's money ended up in the same whale account that bought some of scryptpools' doge after it was sold off.  That is not surprising, as that account contains doge from a huge number of sources.  If you have something more solid, by all means present it.


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January 10, 2014, 08:23:15 PM
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Almost everyone here believes me to be a scammer.

Please believe me when I tell you all that I am truly sorry for the dogecoins that are owed to you.

Another pool operator has been very kind to me over these past few days and is helping me get through this. You have no idea how badly I feel about this situation. It is draining the life out of me every second of every day.

My words may mean nothing to most of you, but this is the truth.

It is not possible for me to purchase the amount of dogecoins that are owed to many of the miners of my pool. When I first realized this, I abandoned my ship. It was foolish for me to do this and the fact that I did that will make it much harder for anyone to believe a word out of my mouth. I don't blame you but please, read my thread from the beginning, and I hope you can see from the start I gave my pool everything I had.

The person I am working with has encouraged the idea of reopening my pool and has agreed to run it with me to make sure there are no issues with double payouts. Any owed balances will be paid using any and all fees that my pool collects. If / when the owed balances are settled in full, the person who is helping me will take full control of the pool. You will no longer have to deal with me. I'm not cut out for this, and I realize that. This was my first pool and will be my last pool. This is a terrible situation for all of my miners and I'm sorry that I couldn't fix the problems with my pool.

It's not easy coming to this forum and reading the things people are saying. I'm not a bad person. I've done right my whole life. I will do everything I can to right this ship and make things right.

Interesting...
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Interesting...

Two posts, no replies to reasonable requests for information.  More of the same.
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January 13, 2014, 11:45:21 AM
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Two posts, no replies to reasonable requests for information.  More of the same.

Agreed. I see no reason for any change of plans.

In my opinion, what we need is a John Doe civil lawsuit.

That will allow us to subpoena DigitalOcean and/or Teespring and get Phonetic's identity.

From there we can continue the civil suit and file a complaint with the FBI.

It's not super expensive to get the lawsuit started but if anyone has any lawyer friends they can hit up, please post back.
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January 13, 2014, 07:18:21 PM
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something to add for all the junior crime fighters. i wouldnt skim these articles, nor the comments.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/09/05/follow-the-bitcoins-how-we-got-busted-buying-drugs-on-silk-roads-black-market/


then, when you are done there, chew on this for a while. again, the meat is in the comments, and they do go on for quite a while.

http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1rvlft/i_just_chased_him_through_a_bitcoin_tumbler_and/

and just in case you didnt put it together in the hour of reading the comments, http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1s2upf/the_sheep_market_scam_address_does_not_actually/


ill be nice and try to summarize. early, early on in the tracking it was discovered that the "thief" was somehow manipulating a btc-e deposit address that was being used by many, many btc-e customers.  a user recognized one of the wallet addresses listed by the OP as showing up in HIS chain. as it turns out, the thief dumped the coins onto an exchange and sold them off, early in the chain. so in effect, many people thought they were somehow manipulated into this "scam".

i stated earlier in the thread "thats not how exchange wallets work". i dont think i could have been more wrong. start with your known wallet address, then make a deposit, any amount, into your exchanges deposit address. now follow that on the blockchain. your coins will set there for a few minutes before being transferred out to a house wallet. whoops Sad


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start with your known wallet address, then make a deposit, any amount, into your exchanges deposit address. now follow that on the blockchain. your coins will set there for a few minutes before being transferred out to a house wallet. whoops Sad

I asked a few people on my pool's IRC channel for the addresses they deposited their doge in with Cryptsy.  I could see the transactions where they sent their doge to these addresses, but there were no transactions out.  I assume that Cryptsy leaves them in the "personal" wallets until they sell them.  I didn't see the expected move to a big exchange wallet.  Do you have any examples of it working the way you describe?  I'm not saying you're wrong, I just haven't been able to find any examples of that yet.

I emailed Coinedup and Cryptsy.  Coinedup responded immediately and said that the addresses didn't belong to any of their addresses.  Cryptsy gave me a form letter response:

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Thank you for submitting your business inquiry,
Our team will review your request and if deemed plausible we will get back to you.
Please know that we receive a thousand requests daily and only those requests that
appear to be workable will be replied to.

They haven't responded to any subsequent inquiries.  Maybe they are too busy.  Maybe they know that the Scryptpools doge was dumped on their exchange but they don't want to deal with the controversy.  I wouldn't exactly blame them, it's not their fault and there is very little they can do to remedy the situation.

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Two posts, no replies to reasonable requests for information.  More of the same.

Agreed. I see no reason for any change of plans.

In my opinion, what we need is a John Doe civil lawsuit.

This law firm represented victims in a cryptocurrency class action before.  Maybe they would be interested?  http://www.gslawny.com/  They have the added advantage of being in the same state as Scryptpools' web host, Digital Ocean.
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This law firm represented victims in a cryptocurrency class action before.  Maybe they would be interested?  http://www.gslawny.com/  They have the added advantage of being in the same state as Scryptpools' web host, Digital Ocean.

Nice. I've also talked to a lawyer friend locally that claims could get their firm's services discounted. Personally I'm hoping that amount up for identification bounty is enough to cover filing the suit and issuing the subpoena to get the identity. Beyond that continuing with a civil suit probably doesn't make sense but then there's the criminal Internet fraud route.

Would someone be willing to contact the above firm? I'll see if I can get a price out of my friend.
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start with your known wallet address, then make a deposit, any amount, into your exchanges deposit address. now follow that on the blockchain. your coins will set there for a few minutes before being transferred out to a house wallet. whoops Sad

I asked a few people on my pool's IRC channel for the addresses they deposited their doge in with Cryptsy.  I could see the transactions where they sent their doge to these addresses, but there were no transactions out.  I assume that Cryptsy leaves them in the "personal" wallets until they sell them.  I didn't see the expected move to a big exchange wallet.  Do you have any examples of it working the way you describe?  I'm not saying you're wrong, I just haven't been able to find any examples of that yet.

I emailed Coinedup and Cryptsy.  Coinedup responded immediately and said that the addresses didn't belong to any of their addresses.  Cryptsy gave me a form letter response:

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Thank you for submitting your business inquiry,
Our team will review your request and if deemed plausible we will get back to you.
Please know that we receive a thousand requests daily and only those requests that
appear to be workable will be replied to.

They haven't responded to any subsequent inquiries.  Maybe they are too busy.  Maybe they know that the Scryptpools doge was dumped on their exchange but they don't want to deal with the controversy.  I wouldn't exactly blame them, it's not their fault and there is very little they can do to remedy the situation.



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060196/
 The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)
"Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo." (original title)
A bounty hunting scam joins two men in an uneasy alliance against a third in a race to find a fortune in gold buried in a remote cemetery.


can i first ask, how many deposit address did you check? out of the 2 examples for one account i have, they moved in 24 and 12 hours.

honestly, i was a little irritated you asked me to show examples. im not sure why i felt that way. i think it was more frustration frothing. i went back to retrace my steps.


to start at the beginning, here is the block creation and movement into the pool wallet. http://dogechain.info/tx/84cf2fee7c8b5ec4251b8ef3c38772a9ba0a2f0ffd15ac17604bc22baa2cae50

here it moves from what i believe is the pools wallet, which is not individual but quite mingled, to my cryptsy doge deposit address. http://dogechain.info/tx/39ae2519de0161d2188ec0dd3a11c97a9216fcc2cadaa856f0f7f2cd5be429c2

here is the cryptsy doge deposit address. i posted one sell order, and left the other sit. both moved to another wallet without any action on my part. its part of their internal process apparently. http://dogechain.info/address/DPhEW1xEjQEVJrc9XoiZD8CdSmSovcLRWt

if you follow the 2 mil tx, http://dogechain.info/tx/9f60c3270ea71c69386e5fa2b470c45ab77ab209d3f844f9e94cb0b99aff06b8

it moves to one wallet and sits. http://dogechain.info/address/DDZ1qhnttyHqMhdTyyLLEJg8kndkkYWrLW

being only one other tx, i decided to check it. the 1.8 mil. it makes a move to another wallet as shown by the tx http://dogechain.info/tx/22506de77387bb4175f3fab329379ca80642c09616f1654faa829000d5317f82

from there, that wallet make deposits into a few accounts as seen here. http://dogechain.info/address/DTkRmHuy1LYeTeeZSt3otpPkdC1d1S9hEG

here, im admittedly getting a little lost. in addition to checking the wallet that my 1.8 was sent to, i checked the tx. http://dogechain.info/tx/9288d7fe694b0ada2a419d43a01cabec2084f5fe78f107b4a15926dedeeb5483   Huh

only 2 outputs. and 2 steps away from my initial deposit address.

interesting, no? i guess it makes sense why you didnt get a reply from cryptsy, and you wont without that attorney.




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honestly, i was a little irritated you asked me to show examples. im not sure why i felt that way. i think it was more frustration frothing. i went back to retrace my steps.

The good the bad and the ugly.  I like it.  Crypto is the new wild west after all  Wink
 
I wasn't doubting you, I just wasn't able to find any transfers out with the 4 example addresses I tried.  I was going to add "I don't doubt you, I just wasn't able to find one myself" to my request.  Sorry if my post came across as condescending, that was not my intention.  I appreciate the fact that you're one of the people willing to do time consuming blockchain exploring!

I'm wondering if crypsty moved your money around because it was a much larger deposit than the ones that I checked from other people.  If you don't mind me asking, which of the two did you sell off, the ~2 mil or the ~1.85 mil?

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honestly, i was a little irritated you asked me to show examples. im not sure why i felt that way. i think it was more frustration frothing. i went back to retrace my steps.


I wasn't doubting you, I just wasn't able to find any transfers out with the 4 example addresses I tried.  I was going to add "I don't doubt you, I just wasn't able to find one myself to my request".  Sorry if my post came across as condescending, that was not my intention.  I appreciate the fact that you're one of the people willing to do time consuming blockchain exploring!

no condesention, it was more frustration in the respect i couldn't see why it didn't work the same way with your experience. do you have a cryptsy account?

at any rate, its not out there in black and white, did you see the final wallet my deposits stopped at? just a mere 2 steps from my initial deposit address?

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Number of outputs    2
Outputs
Index    Redeemed at input    Amount    To address
0    8bb07ac971…27bed80912    0.0100409    DJfsvLuy2cjbAqZzBqZij189gXNR33wnjt
1    b548bf7f04…af9c993584    10000000    DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi

so.... me, your scryptpool thief, and poor mr. baby seal.....all use cryptsy.
its why cryptsy didnt reply to your email. half the addys you submitted to them, are theirs.
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  If you don't mind me asking, which of the two did you sell off, the ~2 mil or the ~1.85 mil?



the 2, and it did not/has not sold yet.
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at any rate, its not out there in black and white, did you see the final wallet my deposits stopped at? just a mere 2 steps from my initial deposit address?

Sorry, I edited my post a few times.  So one of your transactions went here http://dogechain.info/address/DDZ1qhnttyHqMhdTyyLLEJg8kndkkYWrLW. The other one ended up in the whale account http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi!!  So that is either Cryptsy's wallet or an investor who buys a lot of doge from Cryptsy.  Either way, that is probably why Cryptsy isn't responding, eh?

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