[ANN] 42 | Time to Revive 42 Coin - Everyone get in here!!!

[binaryclock]

So which is it?  Which is the correct fork we're all going with?

There still isn't a clear answer.

[udjin123]

we get d8ef6acf1da476ea6ea53050a5355e9f7fc35f0918862df66b85aed8c6438649 for that block

I got too. Is it right fork?

[gamersglory]

we get d8ef6acf1da476ea6ea53050a5355e9f7fc35f0918862df66b85aed8c6438649 for that block

I got too. Is it right fork?

yes that is the correct fork

[zccopwrx]

Hey OP.. wheres my post? you deleted my explanation/reply to a miner on my pool.

Unfair moderation.. so here it is again:

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Quote from: lunswor on Today at 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: ThomasMuller on Today at 02:34:31 PM
I don't understand this crap! Hashfaster said they had updated their wallet then I woke up today and they orphaned my last 48 hours of mining. I keep saying it is up to the Admin to make sure he is running a safe and current pool. I agree with Dutch, the Dev published in big RED letters and tweeted for the last 3 weeks telling everybody to update.

There is pool here that was on the same block as Hashfaster and they allowed transfer to Cryptsy. I'm very upset right now!

That is whole situation is just crazy....

Regarding HashFaster's 42coin pool. The situation was no, we did not see the dev's notices and was not aware of any imminent hardfork, and we found out hours after block 55000 that something wasn't right and promptly upgraded and restarted our wallets (resync) and put up a notice on our pool.  We watched the situation carefully and at that time we had no reason to believe we were not on the correct fork (a resync fixes this usually).  We promptly put up a MOTD cautioning people of the situation (it said: Mine at your own risk, coin is forked) , and the fact that the coin has 5+ forks going on, and no confirmation of which chain is the right one.  Nearly a day later, no help from devs, or anyone to confirm the correct blockchain, so we posted our block hashes for people to compare.  After about 4-5 comparisons it was clear we were not on the right fork.  We had the wallet upgraded, so our ONLY option was to stop the wallet, blow away all blockchain data again and resync again.  We did this and eventually came up with the same blockhash as other users were reporting. That unfortunately confirmed that the last 48 hours of "hoping this will turn out well" ended up in resulting in 48 hours of wasted mining (and 12 hours of paying out on a fork!).  This means we obviously had to orphan the blocks mined on the wrong chain, as they were orphans, simply put.

I can't say for sure why this would happen, but clearly we were not the only pool that it happened to.  Its possible that upon the first resync, the peers our wallets connect to had majority on a wrong fork (likely due to alot of people and pools not even aware the coin was forking).

We are still cleaning up the pool as you could imagine, paying out 1000 orphaned blocks can cause havoc in transaction tables, and in many cases cause a pool wallet balance to fall of sync (until a rescan can re-verify all txes).

As mentioned, we wasted no time in putting up a notice to caution miners, which I assume was ignored or dismissed, the warning was clearly important (and may have saved people some wasted hashing) given the end result of this forking issue.

I am sorry it happened, it wasted alot of miners time, and wasted my time trying to pick up the pieces that a "failed fork" causes. It also didn't help that profit based on coinwarz was inflated, which clearly had 42coin on top because they were displayed a super low diff on the wrong fork.

I hope this clears up any confusion to what happened.

[anonuser123]

Regarding this whole fiasco, there is fault on both sides.

For pool operators, especially the big ones, it's your job to keep up with the coins you list.  You are paid by the fees and donations you receive.  No excuses.  I mine for fun and like to mine one offs like this, and I use dedicatedpool for them most of the time.  I'm considering going elsewhere.

For the developer, where are you?  You can't just disappear after the hard fork happens that you caused to happen.  There are folks out there with real fiat currency invested in your altcoin.  You knew the hard fork was coming and you apparently never bothered to check up on the pools.  I think in the spirit of open source software another developer should take over development since the current developer can't be bothered to support the coin.

[zccopwrx]

Totally agree.  I run pools for over 20 coins, and for the most part we get notified or mentioned in passing, that a coin has an upcoming fork, for whatever reason.

42 has been very calm and no earth-shattering changes in a long time (if at all even..). So this kind of hit us and other pools blindly without notice.  Some of us (my pool included) was one of the more popular pools on the network, which makes it sting a little more than usual.

Needless to say, I follow 42coin on twitter now just incase.

[DutchHammer]

I would say most were not aware when bitcoin forked about a year ago.
similar to as 42coin right now, some updated, some didn't, so EVERYBODY most importantly big pools updated to new clients and threw all the hashing at that.

yes, it was not that hard.

and was there people commenting about bitcoin dev's like this?
NO there was not if you check tweets dev's have posted what you should do and probably posted more recently than you think.

It IS Easter holidays right ??
so dev's aahhhh might be enjoying a family holiday you think ?

I know I would like to enjoy some of the main holiday's

here is what i see at dedicated pool
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"42 Coin has been offlined as there are at least six forks on the network. Nobody knows which one is the true one until the developer responds."

IF there are more than 2 forks to me that would mean some are using the OLD wallets etc.
which also means some pools are using original wallet or the update to that, there has been about 3 or 4 updates for 42 which any of you reading this forum should already know about.
and as for the no one knows till the developer responds, They have!! and it goes like this UPDATE TO LATEST CLIENT! IT IS THE TRUE FORK.

I Hope this answers the same questions people keep asking.

and use twitter for latest news.

[anonuser123]

I would say most were not aware when bitcoin forked about a year ago.
similar to as 42coin right now, some updated, some didn't, so EVERYBODY most importantly big pools updated to new clients and threw all the hashing at that.

yes, it was not that hard.

and was there people commenting about bitcoin dev's like this?
NO there was not if you check tweets dev's have posted what you should do and probably posted more recently than you think.

It IS Easter holidays right ??
so dev's aahhhh might be enjoying a family holiday you think ?

I know I would like to enjoy some of the main holiday's

here is what i see at dedicated pool
QUOTE
"42 Coin has been offlined as there are at least six forks on the network. Nobody knows which one is the true one until the developer responds."

IF there are more than 2 forks to me that would mean some are using the OLD wallets etc.
which also means some pools are using original wallet or the update to that, there has been about 3 or 4 updates for 42 which any of you reading this forum should already know about.
and as for the no one knows till the developer responds, They have!! and it goes like this UPDATE TO LATEST CLIENT! IT IS THE TRUE FORK.

I Hope this answers the same questions people keep asking.

and use twitter for latest news.

You're seriously comparing the most valuable and watched cryptocurrency with a random altcoin?  As for the comment on the holidays, as a developer if you don't want to be bothered on the holidays you don't make a production change during the holidays.

[DutchHammer]

I would say most were not aware when bitcoin forked about a year ago.
similar to as 42coin right now, some updated, some didn't, so EVERYBODY most importantly big pools updated to new clients and threw all the hashing at that.

yes, it was not that hard.

and was there people commenting about bitcoin dev's like this?
NO there was not if you check tweets dev's have posted what you should do and probably posted more recently than you think.

It IS Easter holidays right ??
so dev's aahhhh might be enjoying a family holiday you think ?

I know I would like to enjoy some of the main holiday's

here is what i see at dedicated pool
QUOTE
"42 Coin has been offlined as there are at least six forks on the network. Nobody knows which one is the true one until the developer responds."

IF there are more than 2 forks to me that would mean some are using the OLD wallets etc.
which also means some pools are using original wallet or the update to that, there has been about 3 or 4 updates for 42 which any of you reading this forum should already know about.
and as for the no one knows till the developer responds, They have!! and it goes like this UPDATE TO LATEST CLIENT! IT IS THE TRUE FORK.

I Hope this answers the same questions people keep asking.

and use twitter for latest news.

You're seriously comparing the most valuable and watched cryptocurrency with a random altcoin?  As for the comment on the holidays, as a developer if you don't want to be bothered on the holidays you don't make a production change during the holidays.

YES I am comparing and as for you stating most valuable about a year ago when bitcoin had the fork it was like $10-30 a coin and now about $500
and im not sure if you notice that 42coin is worth about 50 bitcoins so check facts before jumping the gun eh.

[anonuser123]

I would say most were not aware when bitcoin forked about a year ago.
similar to as 42coin right now, some updated, some didn't, so EVERYBODY most importantly big pools updated to new clients and threw all the hashing at that.

yes, it was not that hard.

and was there people commenting about bitcoin dev's like this?
NO there was not if you check tweets dev's have posted what you should do and probably posted more recently than you think.

It IS Easter holidays right ??
so dev's aahhhh might be enjoying a family holiday you think ?

I know I would like to enjoy some of the main holiday's

here is what i see at dedicated pool
QUOTE
"42 Coin has been offlined as there are at least six forks on the network. Nobody knows which one is the true one until the developer responds."

IF there are more than 2 forks to me that would mean some are using the OLD wallets etc.
which also means some pools are using original wallet or the update to that, there has been about 3 or 4 updates for 42 which any of you reading this forum should already know about.
and as for the no one knows till the developer responds, They have!! and it goes like this UPDATE TO LATEST CLIENT! IT IS THE TRUE FORK.

I Hope this answers the same questions people keep asking.

and use twitter for latest news.

You're seriously comparing the most valuable and watched cryptocurrency with a random altcoin?  As for the comment on the holidays, as a developer if you don't want to be bothered on the holidays you don't make a production change during the holidays.

YES I am comparing and as for you stating most valuable about a year ago when bitcoin had the fork it was like $10-30 a coin and now about $500
and im not sure if you notice that 42coin is worth about 50 bitcoins so check facts before jumping the gun eh.

I'm seriously laughing at this.  Yes 42 is worth 50 bitcoins, but nobody will ever have a full 42 as there will only be 42 of them ever.  Scarcity is driving demand and that is what makes this coin interesting.  I think this coin is being driven up by people who aren't paying attention to the extremely small block rewards and are only focusing on the very large per bitcoin value.

[DutchHammer]

I am glad I amuse you but this is getting off topic.

the issue is everyone update to latest client simple, problem solved.

[gamersglory]

I am glad I amuse you but this is getting off topic.

the issue is everyone update to latest client simple, problem solved.

 Well update and redownloed the blockchain

[DutchHammer]

I am glad I amuse you but this is getting off topic.

the issue is everyone update to latest client simple, problem solved.

 Well update and redownloed the blockchain

I have like 3 weeks ago when it was announced.
why else would I be telling everyone else to do it....   DUH.

[johnp]

Hi
Bit new to this, I started mining 42 a couple of days ago with the updated wallet on http://42.hashfaster.com/ and stopped when advised by the pool operator,now all that mining has been orphaned.

1) Is there anyway of getting it back.
2) Should the pool operator compensate for not upgrading.

Thanks

John

[binaryclock]

In fact, there are two or three chains if you upgrade the wallet.  That's the problem.

We upgraded, and were on a different chain than some other pools.  Our daemon was properly processing KGW blocks.

If it were simply everyone upgraded and were fine, then we wouldn't be having this issue.

[gamersglory]

If you getblockhash as follows and return the same hash, your on the same fork as Cryptsy (The right Chain)

42 getblockhash 57471

This is what you should get as a result:  d8ef6acf1da476ea6ea53050a5355e9f7fc35f0918862df66b85aed8c6438649

anything else is wrong

If this is not what you get you will need to delete your 42 coin wallet update to the new wallet and re-sync it to the right chain.

yes if you are not on this chain you will lose anything you mined from block 55,000 to present 

[sebabm]

This is the Id of the transaction that never came when he produced the Fork:

http://altexplorer.net/tx/f24e059c65c4358c01c7c151fd71757d90b0409c19228077d946e8271d3e525d

My address for 42 coin are: 4KgH3WzouMpUuxoHURoCQLnHPd7zpuLBgD

Description: Not Yet Redeemed
1.942E-5 20:4185 4KgH3WzouMpUuxoHURoCQLnHPd7zpuLBgD HASH160 DUP ... 2d06 EQUALVERIFY checksig

Never received the coins!


Is there any way to recover my coins? Invested a lot of money to rent equipment to lose all mining

[4ex]

what version of the wallet now last? I v. 0.7.0.0 block 61674 blocks all synchronized, but the wallet shows (out of sync) be like?

[Zuikkis]

what version of the wallet now last? I v. 0.7.0.0 block 61674 blocks all synchronized, but the wallet shows (out of sync) be like?

Yeah. I'm stuck at block 61674 as well.. Latest github linux version.

"42 getblockhash 57471" shows I'm on the Cryptsy fork.

Edit: https://altexplorer.net/chain/42

altexplorer is on block 61674 as well, but the block is 17 hours old already.. Has everyone just stopped mining because of this fork madness?

[Zuikkis]

Huh, now at block 61808 and increasing. Seems to be ok now.