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[Golden Billion]

I carefully examined the arguments of my respected opponents and was able to draw a conclusion from our discussion:
1. My opponents are the very people who support the pyramidal structure created on the forum which contributes to their considerable enrichment and creates unequal conditions for other participants of the forum.
2. These people are using their best efforts to substitute common sense and prove that free and educated participants of the crypto-currency market are not able to do an elementary analysis after reading on the site of the Ponzi game the rules in which it is openly declared about its pyramidal structure. And make a simple conclusion for yourself that in this game you can lose your money, as in other and in 99% of games that mankind invented for the entire period of its existence. Where some win leaving opponents to be losers.
3. Gambling is an integral part of the life of society and the right of every person. Gambling not prohibited by the rules controlled by greedy minority of the forum is well advertised and pumped out of gullible players profit.
4. Realizing their innate needs for unlimited power over others, these people ignoring common sense continue to defend their theory of the "stupid investor", which they are called upon by higher forces to protect from projects with a pyramidal structure. Themselves being in fact part of the pyramid forum.
5. Perfectly understanding that the time of my respected opponents has money during this time that I take from them my humble opinion, they could snatch a piece of themselves fatter using all the privileges given to them by the pyramidal structure of the forum. I allow myself to wish them luck in their further hopeless business the meaning of which is the struggle against the pyramids, that is with ourselves. Sorry for my English.

[suchmoon]

I carefully examined the arguments of my respected opponents and was able to draw a conclusion from our discussion:
1. My opponents are the very people who support the pyramidal structure created on the forum which contributes to their considerable enrichment and creates unequal conditions for other participants of the forum.
2. These people are using their best efforts to substitute common sense and prove that free and educated participants of the crypto-currency market are not able to do an elementary analysis after reading on the site of the Ponzi game the rules in which it is openly declared about its pyramidal structure. And make a simple conclusion for yourself that in this game you can lose your money, as in other and in 99% of games that mankind invented for the entire period of its existence. Where some win leaving opponents to be losers.
3. Gambling is an integral part of the life of society and the right of every person. Gambling not prohibited by the rules controlled by greedy minority of the forum is well advertised and pumped out of gullible players profit.
4. Realizing their innate needs for unlimited power over others, these people ignoring common sense continue to defend their theory of the "stupid investor", which they are called upon by higher forces to protect from projects with a pyramidal structure. Themselves being in fact part of the pyramid forum.
5. Perfectly understanding that the time of my respected opponents has money during this time that I take from them my humble opinion, they could snatch a piece of themselves fatter using all the privileges given to them by the pyramidal structure of the forum. I allow myself to wish them luck in their further hopeless business the meaning of which is the struggle against the pyramids, that is with ourselves. Sorry for my English.

Ignoring the abundant fallacies of your rambling post for a minute, if you're so adamant that the "educated participants" are fully aware of what they're getting into then you surely wouldn't mind them reading your trust ratings too. So what it is exactly that you're still complaining about?

[Golden Billion]

I carefully examined the arguments of my respected opponents and was able to draw a conclusion from our discussion:
1. My opponents are the very people who support the pyramidal structure created on the forum which contributes to their considerable enrichment and creates unequal conditions for other participants of the forum.
2. These people are using their best efforts to substitute common sense and prove that free and educated participants of the crypto-currency market are not able to do an elementary analysis after reading on the site of the Ponzi game the rules in which it is openly declared about its pyramidal structure. And make a simple conclusion for yourself that in this game you can lose your money, as in other and in 99% of games that mankind invented for the entire period of its existence. Where some win leaving opponents to be losers.
3. Gambling is an integral part of the life of society and the right of every person. Gambling not prohibited by the rules controlled by greedy minority of the forum is well advertised and pumped out of gullible players profit.
4. Realizing their innate needs for unlimited power over others, these people ignoring common sense continue to defend their theory of the "stupid investor", which they are called upon by higher forces to protect from projects with a pyramidal structure. Themselves being in fact part of the pyramid forum.
5. Perfectly understanding that the time of my respected opponents has money during this time that I take from them my humble opinion, they could snatch a piece of themselves fatter using all the privileges given to them by the pyramidal structure of the forum. I allow myself to wish them luck in their further hopeless business the meaning of which is the struggle against the pyramids, that is with ourselves. Sorry for my English.

Ignoring the abundant fallacies of your rambling post for a minute, if you're so adamant that the "educated participants" are fully aware of what they're getting into then you surely wouldn't mind them reading your trust ratings too. So what it is exactly that you're still complaining about?

In my post there is no complaint. In it, a statement of the fact of insincerity of my opponents, who themselves benefit from the pyramidal structure of the forum and try to catch their opponents in this.

[Qusena]

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Lotteries (and any gambling site) DO NOT use terms like:
Invest
Interest
Earnings

They also don't have fucking Ponzi right in the name.  You are trying to lure in investors in a Ponzi.  You are not asking for gamblers.

I'm not sure where your ANN thread is right now but I might have a look because there is a pretty good chance it belongs in the gambling>investor based games and rounds which will help keep it out of public view!!!!

Edit: my odds of winning in traditional gambling are not affected by the position in which I enter the event unlike ponzi shitcunt schemes.

Let me say a few words in defense of Ponzi.

1. We are not trying to lure investors, we are into trying to lure players. But to play the game, you need to have chips and make a contribution into the game thise chips.
2. When we openly say that we use the Ponzi scheme - this is not fraud, fraud is when the Ponzi scheme is disguised as some far-fetched highly profitable activity.
3. Nobody has done this before us, and so your brain can not cope with it yet.
4. We honestly say that the game is based on the Ponzi scheme, you want to play - play, do not want to - do not play.

[Mariabramovich]

Then the lottery is a kind of fraud, because the winnings are taken by people at the expense of other people.

No, because the payments will not be exclusively from new investors (which don't exist in a lottery since it is gambling). If you are going create this kind of false equivalence then you can say that any type of gambling is a ponzi scheme.

(And if you want to extrapolate it further, any company is a ponzi scheme)

I'll tell you more - every bank is a Ponzi scheme, every social and pension program. Just think over it.

[digaran]

Marlboroza is trying to help scammers. here is the evidence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4598987.0 he should be excluded from DT2 unless his sponsor DT1 agrees with him, in that case both of them should get kicked out of DT, unless theymos agrees with their actions, in that case do not trust him. however I doubt him agreeing with such behavior.

[actmyname]

Marlboroza is trying to help scammers. here is the evidence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4598987.0

What are you on about?

This is pertaining to those that are participating in scam ICO signature campaigns. I don't see a problem with marlboroza removing the tag once they stop. Unless you believe that all past participants of campaigns in which the promoted product was a scam should be tagged indefinitely.

[marlboroza]

Marlboroza is trying to help scammers. here is the evidence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4598987.0 he should be excluded from DT2 unless his sponsor DT1 agrees with him, in that case both of them should get kicked out of DT, unless theymos agrees with their actions, in that case do not trust him. however I doubt him agreeing with such behavior.

Thanks for pointing again which ICO's are scam, i appreciate it.

If you find any other scam ongoing ICO/IPO don't hesitate to send me PM/post it in that topic/create topic in scam accusation and point it to DT members.

[digaran]

Bump, marlboroza is helping scammers to get away with promoting scam ICOs and he has tagged me when I tried to help people. this DT2 member is directly moderating the trust system by tagging or removing the red tags on people.
I still have a red trust from marlboroza by offering a service which has nothing to do with anybody other than me and a possible client.
I have offered a service with clear and transparent terms, I didn't ask for money for doing nothing, I asked for money in exchange for my time spent on reputation cases, tell me where is the thing that could be considered untrustworthy?
Ignore me and someday you'll be ignored when you face the same situation.

[pugman]

Bump, marlboroza is helping scammers to get away with promoting scam ICOs and he has tagged me when I tried to help people. this DT2 member is directly moderating the trust system by tagging or removing the red tags on people.

Where? He is not helping scammers to get away. The correct word would be: Giving users a second chance.

Need I remind you, he did the same for you. He gave you a second chance, you fucked it up. Do people have to repeat the same thing to make you understand what is really going on? Even if you changed your terms, you started harassing every single DT member, be it marlboroza, be it suchmoon, be it actmyname, Vod, OgNasty, hilariousandco and not to mention theymos.

Read marlboroza's tag on you again:

This user continues to spread lies, harassing forum members, DT and moderators/stuff, running very shady law practice service which consist of trolling DT members and spreading lies all over the forum.

[Flying Hellfish]

Bump, marlboroza is helping scammers to get away with promoting scam ICOs and he has tagged me when I tried to help people. this DT2 member is directly moderating the trust system by tagging or removing the red tags on people.

Where? He is not helping scammers to get away. The correct word would be: Giving users a second chance.

Need I remind you, he did the same for you. He gave you a second chance, you fucked it up. Do people have to repeat the same thing to make you understand what is really going on? Even if you changed your terms, you started harassing every single DT member, be it marlboroza, be it suchmoon, be it actmyname, Vod, OgNasty, hilariousandco and not to mention theymos.

Read marlboroza's tag on you again:

This user continues to spread lies, harassing forum members, DT and moderators/stuff, running very shady law practice service which consist of trolling DT members and spreading lies all over the forum.

He's still running around the forum lying.  He's has learned nothing and IMO is incapable of learning anything at this point.  He simply makes stuff up to suit his agenda.

Just a couple of days ago he claimed he could talk to the admin and get a reconsideration for banned users.  Maybe trying to start an unbanning service scamming users out of BTC who are desperate to get their accounts back.  He could be on telegram roping in desperate banned bounty hunters as we speak!

He doesn't need to ask for money on the forum he probably gets a PM or sends them a PM and sends them to telegram, collects the coin and calls it a day, no one on BTCT is any the wiser.

Of course the backpedaling starts immediately which is 100% typical of digaran. 

we shall all learn our lessons in time.  The banning of this account will be looked upon fondly in the future.  These things happen for a reason so you shouldn't oppose the destiny of the universe.

How many accounts do you all have? I can talk with the admin for a reconsideration, I just need to know the names of your accounts to check the quality of their posts and as a former merit source I know a few things about the quality of posts.

[digaran]

Need I remind you, he did the same for you. He gave you a second chance, you fucked it up

Need I remind you that I'm not a garbage poster hunting for bounties to need a second chance. you look up to DT members as sort of an authority while they are humans, totally random human beings only in a position of default trust list and they are abusing other people. I will speak out against any fucking tyranny whenever I see it. they are deceiving, manipulating and earning trust and money, not to mention that they are corrupt.

you started harassing every single DT member,

I'm not harassing anybody here, I'm being harassed by them. what I am doing is questioning the legitimacy of their positive and negative trust feedbacks, if people claim that trust system is decentralized and unmoderated, I'm calling it bullshit because it's not.
We all know that marlboroza got on DT2 after he tagged me for the first time and after he removed the tag he got worried that he might lose his status and tagged me again after I PMed him to ask for help after suchmoon tagged me. so yes I don't believe he is trying to help people rather saying who is scammer and untrustworthy and who is not.

He is not in any position to tag people and tell them what to do in order to get rid of the red trust, this could be the start of a long con being played by him. first he would start tagging ICO scammers and bounty hunters with a promise of removing the tags after they have deleted all the evidence to send a message to other scammers, next time when they see him near their scam ICOs they might even submit to whatever he asks from them.

Blah blah blah

I don't have Telegram, you will never find a Telegram account associated with me. need I to remind you again what kind of a hypocrite you are?
 

[suchmoon]

Marlboroza, if you ever decide to scam - start with digaran. This would be a "boy who cried DT abuse too many times" situation so nobody would believe him.

[Flying Hellfish]

I don't have Telegram, you will never find a Telegram account associated with me.  

Seeing as you're a lying sack of shit we have only your untrustworthy word that you don't have telegram (although lots of additional methods exist outside of BCTC and telegram).  How could we possibly prove or even believe that.

need I to remind you again what kind of a hypocrite you are?

Yes please do I would love to hear about my supposed hypocrisy, since it comes from your deluded brain I would love to read some nice fiction!

Hey btw how is the -64 treating you, lol fucking simpleton!

I'm not harassing anybody here, I'm being harassed by them

When you literally make stuff up about people and post it all over the fucking forum most normal people consider that harassing.  Of course you lack simple common sense skills so it isn't a surprise you can't understand this like the rest of the world!

[marlboroza]

I'm not harassing anybody here, I'm being harassed by them.

We all know that marlboroza got on DT2 after he tagged me for the first time and after he removed the tag he got worried that he might lose his status and tagged me again after I PMed him to ask for help after suchmoon tagged me.

I don't believe he is trying to help people rather saying who is scammer and untrustworthy and who is not.

He is not in any position to tag people and tell them what to do in order to get rid of the red trust, this could be the start of a long con being played by him. first he would start tagging ICO scammers and bounty hunters with a promise of removing the tags after they have deleted all the evidence to send a message to other scammers, next time when they see him near their scam ICOs they might even submit to whatever he asks from them.

Ok, that's it. You crossed the line with last one.

[pugman]

Need I remind you that I'm not a garbage poster hunting for bounties to need a second chance. you look up to DT members as sort of an authority while they are humans, totally random human beings only in a position of default trust list and they are abusing other people. I will speak out against any fucking tyranny whenever I see it. they are deceiving, manipulating and earning trust and money, not to mention that they are corrupt.

You're a garbage poster. You post random shit most of the time. 

And about me looking up to DT members, I might look up to a few members(regardless if they are in DT or not), and there's nothing wrong with it. Just so you know, I disagree with a lot of DT members, and their tags, and that doesn't change anything. Not everyone wants to abuse their power here, and  that trust system doesn't affect anybody IRL. They don't get money by giving trust. That is a wild accusation without ANY proof. And before you say they are corrupt, provide proof.

what I am doing is questioning the legitimacy of their positive and negative trust feedbacks, if people claim that trust system is decentralized and unmoderated, I'm calling it bullshit because it's not.

So you're saying trust system is centralized? In other words, you're indirectly saying every DT member is an alt of theymos, and he is abusing his power?

I'm not harassing anybody here

Say what? Bitch please:

Here is a red trust for including trust abusers like actmyname and suchmoon on your trust list. you could ignore this like you ignored their actions.
Just look at how many positive trust Blazed has left for others with no reference, he expects us to trust his words, well what happens when people on his trust list abuse other people with their negative trust feedbacks? further more, what happens to those scammer getting a free pass from DT2 members currently on Blazed trust list? e.g, actmyname and suchmoon have the habits of countering legitimate and valid red tags just to give legitimacy to known extortionists and scammers.

How many times you are going to delete the evidence of your wrongdoings? this is a re-tag. marlboroza is trying to give a free pass to scammers, he is asking them to remove all the evidence of their scamming attempts and then PM him so that he could remove their negative trust in order to give them a free pass after trying to shill for ICO scammers.

And are you also gonna say that all the accusations and bullshit  truth about DT members not harassment?

Reference:

OgNasty tagging me after I called him out on his trust abuse!

Vod trolling me with red tag!

The Pharmacist is tagging shitposters with negative trust!

Marlboroza changed email address after getting on DT2!

@DT1 and DT2 members.

Marlboroza is abusing DT power!

Do not trust actmyname.

Do not trust suchmoon, a blatant trust abuser.

I don't have Telegram, you will never find a Telegram account associated with me. need I to remind you again what kind of a hypocrite you are?

I think you're lying again. I very vaguely remember you posting a screenshot of your telegram somewhere.

_Source?