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[zsnorbi]

I have some token on xhash from after the fork too. But never transfered it to my wallet. They`re still sitting at xhash.
But i own more than 2500 pre-fork etoken too. Would be very hard if they`re worthless.

I think it`s not possible to fork out the bank. That`s the problem with a 15% premine, even if it`s called bank. You have to trust the dev.

It is possible if you set up a completely new blockchain and make the first block with the total amounts held by others than dev before fork, so we will have our fair balance and dev will not have his 100k

And how do you distinguish "users" from dev ?

well i guess if mogui posts in a so called refund thread his request then the next dev won't transfer him his coins

[Last1212]

We can send our wallet.dat to new dev, he will check them on old blockchain and then resend this amount from new bank. But this a hard work.

[BoeserKeller]

We can send our wallet.dat to new dev, he will check them on old blockchain and then resend this amount from new bank. But this a hard work.

Lol, this is just impossible ... Period.
You cant send wallets around, you cant "remove the bank" from the chain. We either have to deal with the amont of etok left in the bank or deal with the fact that the coin is dead.

[badam]

We can send our wallet.dat to new dev, he will check them on old blockchain and then resend this amount from new bank. But this a hard work.

Lol, this is just impossible ... Period.
You cant send wallets around, you cant "remove the bank" from the chain. We either have to deal with the amont of etok left in the bank or deal with the fact that the coin is dead.

Understand that you can't deal with the bank. It is senseless to make a fork on a coin where a single people is havin more than 100k coins while all the others are having less than 80k.

[Last1212]

We can send our wallet.dat to new dev, he will check them on old blockchain and then resend this amount from new bank. But this a hard work.

Lol, this is just impossible ... Period.
You cant send wallets around, you cant "remove the bank" from the chain. We either have to deal with the amont of etok left in the bank or deal with the fact that the coin is dead.

Tomorrow newspaper title - "Several people made suicide beacuse of eTok"

[murkanovic]

I have some token on xhash from after the fork too. But never transfered it to my wallet. They`re still sitting at xhash.
But i own more than 2500 pre-fork etoken too. Would be very hard if they`re worthless.

I think it`s not possible to fork out the bank. That`s the problem with a 15% premine, even if it`s called bank. You have to trust the dev.

I'm quite sure it's possible to fork out the "bank" or any other address in that matter and it shouldn't even be that hard. When you've identified the address that you want to disable, it has to be added as a small fix inside the transaction verification method.
Now the fun part is that transaction inputs do not include the public key of the address from where the coins come from, but they include a reference to the previous transaction. Using the last known transaction from the bank, we can block this input and all is almost golden. Small problem arises - it might be that we effectively block the last bonus given by the dev, but it should be small change compared to the holdings of dev.

So, that's my 2 cents. Might be wrong here, but you'll never know before you've tried.

[Mjollnir]

I have some token on xhash from after the fork too. But never transfered it to my wallet. They`re still sitting at xhash.
But i own more than 2500 pre-fork etoken too. Would be very hard if they`re worthless.

I think it`s not possible to fork out the bank. That`s the problem with a 15% premine, even if it`s called bank. You have to trust the dev.

I'm quite sure it's possible to fork out the "bank" or any other address in that matter and it shouldn't even be that hard. When you've identified the address that you want to disable, it has to be added as a small fix inside the transaction verification method.
Now the fun part is that transaction inputs do not include the public key of the address from where the coins come from, but they include a reference to the previous transaction. Using the last known transaction from the bank, we can block this input and all is almost golden. Small problem arises - it might be that we effectively block the last bonus given by the dev, but it should be small change compared to the holdings of dev.

So, that's my 2 cents. Might be wrong here, but you'll never know before you've tried.

Oké well we can find out the adress holding 100.000. I think the rest of the bank went to other address and was used to pay bounties and the first miners  Who where in his broken Pool. Better otherwise i will lose 90% of my coins

[awais3344]

lets just forget about the coin. it's dead. loss is loss. Although my loss is fairly smaller than what you people faced. but meh.

[rznag]

We can send our wallet.dat to new dev, he will check them on old blockchain and then resend this amount from new bank. But this a hard work.

Serious ? That doesn`t sound good. Why should i trust the next dev ?
I think that`s no good solution.

[jochem]

lets just forget about the coin. it's dead. loss is loss. Although my loss is fairly smaller than what you people faced. but meh.

It created a big mess for pools that switched to the new chain. I switched on time before it happened. Look at it now. Lots of blocks mined within seconds, people got credited and such..
Had to put everything on hold.

[stewart2012]

i cant believe ...

he has many site .. many plan ... many suggest for future ... did he denied all them ?

maybe he died ?

nobody has phone number from him ?

[mycointr]

u don't see big picture...

what if i have coins in my wallet before fork (old etok coins), and i pass to new blockchain after fork and sent my etok's to coinedup and sold them?

when you fork back to that point again, i'll have same amount of sold coins back to my wallet and btc at coinedup from sold ones...

i'm glad i realized what will come next and dumped all coins after Last1212 warned that coinedup is running on new wallet..

too messed up people, too messed up...

guys u read this?

you can't roll-back the coin... some people sent coin to coinedup from wallets after fork, and they exchanged that coins to btc. and they already withdraw btc to their btc wallets!

if you do rollback to fork point they will get exchanged etok's back...

[zsnorbi]

u don't see big picture...

what if i have coins in my wallet before fork (old etok coins), and i pass to new blockchain after fork and sent my etok's to coinedup and sold them?

when you fork back to that point again, i'll have same amount of sold coins back to my wallet and btc at coinedup from sold ones...

i'm glad i realized what will come next and dumped all coins after Last1212 warned that coinedup is running on new wallet..

too messed up people, too messed up...

guys u read this?

you can't roll-back the coin... some people sent coin to coinedup from wallets after fork, and they exchanged that coins to btc. and they already withdraw btc to their btc wallets!

if you do rollback to fork point they will get exchanged etok's back...

Yes that's the point. we warned everybody not to make transactions after problem with the fork
Mining and transactioning was a gamble

[darthVadder]

i cant believe ...

he has many site .. many plan ... many suggest for future ... did he denied all them ?

maybe he died ?

nobody has phone number from him ?

+1

[instacalm]

i cant believe ...

he has many site .. many plan ... many suggest for future ... did he denied all them ?

maybe he died ?

nobody has phone number from him ?

+1

He definitely saw what had happened yesterday, the rest remains mystery.

[darthVadder]

i cant believe ...

he has many site .. many plan ... many suggest for future ... did he denied all them ?

maybe he died ?

nobody has phone number from him ?

+1

He definitely saw what had happened yesterday, the rest remains mystery.

And then he can died on his keyboard.

[Last1212]

u don't see big picture...

what if i have coins in my wallet before fork (old etok coins), and i pass to new blockchain after fork and sent my etok's to coinedup and sold them?

when you fork back to that point again, i'll have same amount of sold coins back to my wallet and btc at coinedup from sold ones...

i'm glad i realized what will come next and dumped all coins after Last1212 warned that coinedup is running on new wallet..

too messed up people, too messed up...

guys u read this?

you can't roll-back the coin... some people sent coin to coinedup from wallets after fork, and they exchanged that coins to btc. and they already withdraw btc to their btc wallets!

if you do rollback to fork point they will get exchanged etok's back...

Well, people got that risks I think, if we will not roll back the chain, this coin is dead. I don't think that a lot of people send coins to coined up after the fork applied or "new" coins. If it was so, we got much more dump.

[nocoin]

Ok, I've read 10 last pages but can't make sense of the problem. Can somebody make an extract please?

[crike]

Ok, I've read 10 last pages but can't make sense of the problem. Can somebody make an extract please?

yes, coin is dead

[Last1212]

Ok, I've read 10 last pages but can't make sense of the problem. Can somebody make an extract please?

Fork is broken. Difficulty stucked on 0.002.

Ok, I've read 10 last pages but can't make sense of the problem. Can somebody make an extract please?

yes, coin is dead

Yes, man, it is dead. So if you want to get rid of your eTOK coins please send me a PM, I will give you my e-mail and instructions how to send me your wallet.dat.