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Ok, I've read 10 last pages but can't make sense of the problem. Can somebody make an extract please?
The fork had a bug, diff decreased till 0.0024 and stuck there. And since two days dev is unreachable to fix the bug. |
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January 22, 2014, 05:57:11 PM |
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I have some token on xhash from after the fork too. But never transfered it to my wallet. They`re still sitting at xhash. But i own more than 2500 pre-fork etoken too. Would be very hard if they`re worthless.  I think it`s not possible to fork out the bank. That`s the problem with a 15% premine, even if it`s called bank. You have to trust the dev. I'm quite sure it's possible to fork out the "bank" or any other address in that matter and it shouldn't even be that hard. When you've identified the address that you want to disable, it has to be added as a small fix inside the transaction verification method. Now the fun part is that transaction inputs do not include the public key of the address from where the coins come from, but they include a reference to the previous transaction. Using the last known transaction from the bank, we can block this input and all is almost golden. Small problem arises - it might be that we effectively block the last bonus given by the dev, but it should be small change compared to the holdings of dev. So, that's my 2 cents. Might be wrong here, but you'll never know before you've tried. I think this is the bank money that is safe to fork out of the chain. http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/146fb17753f19e34c32b1a1ac542918f1ffddce5dce9c933828ef649dc5e58c5#i0 |
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January 22, 2014, 05:58:37 PM |
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Thank you all. Too bad, this was a promising coin.
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January 22, 2014, 06:02:17 PM |
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the coin is live, wallet is working well. yes etoken was forked, there s a problem about difficulty, but blocks finding and blockchain rising well. It will reach the total supply amount quickly without repair but it is working now! eTOKen is easyToken since fork!  |
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January 22, 2014, 06:03:18 PM |
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I have some token on xhash from after the fork too. But never transfered it to my wallet. They`re still sitting at xhash. But i own more than 2500 pre-fork etoken too. Would be very hard if they`re worthless. I think it`s not possible to fork out the bank. That`s the problem with a 15% premine, even if it`s called bank. You have to trust the dev. I'm quite sure it's possible to fork out the "bank" or any other address in that matter and it shouldn't even be that hard. When you've identified the address that you want to disable, it has to be added as a small fix inside the transaction verification method. Now the fun part is that transaction inputs do not include the public key of the address from where the coins come from, but they include a reference to the previous transaction. Using the last known transaction from the bank, we can block this input and all is almost golden. Small problem arises - it might be that we effectively block the last bonus given by the dev, but it should be small change compared to the holdings of dev. So, that's my 2 cents. Might be wrong here, but you'll never know before you've tried. I think this is the bank money that is safe to fork out of the chain. http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/146fb17753f19e34c32b1a1ac542918f1ffddce5dce9c933828ef649dc5e58c5#i0Yup. No transaction was reedemed from this batch |
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January 22, 2014, 06:12:21 PM |
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we will wait tomorrow, then we will build a new dev team！
do not give up every body!
we will make it!
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Your dreams are waiting to be realized.
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January 22, 2014, 06:12:37 PM |
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Yup. No transaction was reedemed from this batch Nope. First output says "Redeemed at input @ 2adda26575...:0" Take a look at my post about "bank": |
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January 22, 2014, 06:15:53 PM |
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Yup. No transaction was reedemed from this batch Nope. First output says "Redeemed at input @ 2adda26575...:0" Take a look at my post about "bank": In your post you also refering to the 38k that are interesting. So the 100k we found was not being used in anyother way. So we could delete it right? edit the 38k are a little dangerous to delete. A lot of bounties and first hours mining (from the crashed pool) where paid from it. Earned coins so to speak. |
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January 22, 2014, 06:21:44 PM |
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imho there is only one way to keep eToken alive:
we only need a new repair fork (including fast blocks) and compiled windows-qt wallet.
Also we should not worry, think about the bank. continue exchange.
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January 22, 2014, 06:23:23 PM |
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imho there is only one way to keep eToken alive:
we only need a new repair fork (including fast blocks) and compiled windows-qt wallet.
Also we should not worry, think about the bank. continue exchange.
If someone is having 1/9 of all coins. And the rest (almost all of it) must still be mined. Why would someone invest mining power in a coin that can be worthless after a massive dump? I would't |
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January 22, 2014, 06:24:21 PM |
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imho there is only one way to keep eToken alive:
we only need a new repair fork (including fast blocks) and compiled windows-qt wallet.
Also we should not worry, think about the bank. continue exchange.
If someone is having 1/9 of all coins. And the rest (almost all of it) must still be mined. Why would someone invest mining power in a coin that can be worthless after a massive dump? I would't then it's already dead in fact it was a zombie all the time! |
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January 22, 2014, 06:24:43 PM |
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In your post you also refering to the 38k that are interesting. So the 100k we found was not being used in anyother way. So we could delete it right?
If you're asking - no, you can't (nothing personal). Somebody other can, but this is not the way of cryptocurrency and I doubt pools will accept this change. |
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January 22, 2014, 06:29:07 PM |
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In your post you also refering to the 38k that are interesting. So the 100k we found was not being used in anyother way. So we could delete it right?
If you're asking - no, you can't (nothing personal). Somebody other can, but this is not the way of cryptocurrency and I doubt pools will accept this change. If we want to revive the coin there is no other choice just banning that transaction from the blockchain and use a fork with the fix of digiraha pool owner. |
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January 22, 2014, 06:34:10 PM |
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In your post you also refering to the 38k that are interesting. So the 100k we found was not being used in anyother way. So we could delete it right?
If you're asking - no, you can't (nothing personal). Somebody other can, but this is not the way of cryptocurrency and I doubt pools will accept this change. I dont take it personal  You got a point there. But i am not getting to happy with this idea. I am not sure if anyone (including) a exchange would take e-token up again. With this history. No idea. |
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January 22, 2014, 06:39:10 PM |
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Thats exactly what I am trying to say since ... pages We can only go ahead by doing a fork with proper difficulty and keeping up the good work from the community from there. I still don't get what is up with the dev though, this coin is not dead yet but we need to take action soon. |
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January 22, 2014, 06:40:01 PM |
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In your post you also refering to the 38k that are interesting. So the 100k we found was not being used in anyother way. So we could delete it right?
If you're asking - no, you can't (nothing personal). Somebody other can, but this is not the way of cryptocurrency and I doubt pools will accept this change. If we want to revive the coin there is no other choice just banning that transaction from the blockchain and use a fork with the fix of digiraha pool owner. Kinda my idea. I am sure some of the 38k is still owned by the dev. But the first miners where compensated after the pool crash. I have a small rig (1 gpu lol). I am sure the big ones got thousends of coins. And then the bounties and give away. So there wont be more then 10.000 in the hands of the dev. Just a guess ofcourse. And with 100k gone. There are only 800k of e-tokens. Even more rare |
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January 22, 2014, 06:40:44 PM |
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In your post you also refering to the 38k that are interesting. So the 100k we found was not being used in anyother way. So we could delete it right?
If you're asking - no, you can't (nothing personal). Somebody other can, but this is not the way of cryptocurrency and I doubt pools will accept this change. I dont take it personal You got a point there. But i am not getting to happy with this idea. I am not sure if anyone (including) a exchange would take e-token up again. With this history. No idea. I think it`s worth a try. If it`s worthless with trying or without doesn`t make a big difference then. And we delete "just" the rest of the premine. So we make out of a 15% premine coin which was accepted by exchanges a 3% or whatever (haven`t calculated it) premine coin. If this whole process is transparent i think it could work. |
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January 22, 2014, 06:43:32 PM |
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In your post you also refering to the 38k that are interesting. So the 100k we found was not being used in anyother way. So we could delete it right?
If you're asking - no, you can't (nothing personal). Somebody other can, but this is not the way of cryptocurrency and I doubt pools will accept this change. I dont take it personal You got a point there. But i am not getting to happy with this idea. I am not sure if anyone (including) a exchange would take e-token up again. With this history. No idea. I think it`s worth a try. If it`s worthless with trying or without doesn`t make a big difference then. And we delete "just" the rest of the premine. So we make out of a 15% premine coin which was accepted by exchanges a 3% or whatever (haven`t calculated it) premine coin. If this whole process is transparent i think it could work. With 100k gone. The coin will be more rare even. And less premine. I guess that from the 38k coins a lot was paid to miners and bounties. So the premine is even less then |
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January 22, 2014, 06:45:54 PM |
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Time for the developers to step up :-) I made a little shoutbox on http://e-token.info/Well e-token is taken to much time.....at least that is what my gf says. So need to go for a while   |
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